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Awara1984
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Posted on Friday, September 01, 2017 - 01:58 am:       

RR gadu picha lite

NPAs atta perige daaka emi peekaledu perigaka oo hadavidi chesi denkesadu

vaadu pothe FIIs potharu FDI raadu rupee down, stocks down annaru so called experts antha

emi aindi emi kaaledu inch kuda farak padaledu
 

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Posted on Friday, September 01, 2017 - 01:33 am:       


Saint:

RR nailed it




https://www.pgurus.com/unpublished-letter-subramanian-swamy- rbi-governor-rajan-accusing-trying-hush-eds-probe-aircel-max is-scam/

obviously it did not come in any reputed site . either swamy gang are lying or RR is a thug.
 

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Posted on Friday, September 01, 2017 - 12:58 am:       


Lenin:


inefficiency unte loss untundi kada bhayya ?? Daniki loss calculation method tho sambandham enti ? Inefficiency taggithe ee method lo calc chesina loss taggutundi.

100 techukogalige chota 50 techukunna loss ee.
 

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Posted on Friday, September 01, 2017 - 12:17 am:       


Tantri_the_mantri:




The word I picked on u is 'subsidy' man...

u r time and again using the word 'loss'...inefficiency is different, I am just asking how the loss will be calculated
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Posted on Friday, September 01, 2017 - 12:04 am:       


Lenin:




Mama nenem cheptunna. Nuvvem matladutunnav? We can do a lot better in refinery operations than what we are doing now ani nenu antunna. Mana mediocrity ni defend chestu reasons istaventi naku? Wouldnt you agree that we can do better in our refineries?

Loss ela calculate chestaru, etc. anevi secondary points. No matter what you discuss, the fact remains that there is a lot of scope for improvements in the way we buy crude and run our refineries. Nuvee google chesi reports chaduvko.

Due to organizational inefficiencies, state run refineries are not effective. Private firms like Reliance are managed way better and there is lots to improve in hpcl, etc. Instead of carrying this burden, it is better for govt to leave it for market and let people/entrepreneurs figure out a way eventually.

With changing times, challenges vary significantly and the govt. should focus on more important things. Refineries India lo start ayyi decades avton.di, our ppl should be skilled enough to run them efficiently and make money out of it. Unfortunately, thats not the case, but continuing in this way will only exacerbate the problem, not solve it.

Whether you like it or not, that is a fact.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 11:28 pm:       

@ Tantri Mantri

Sale - cost = Loss

Sale - Market price = under recoveries

Govt and Oil companies mention only under recoveries when they talk about losses

there are lot of articles in the internet which u can google...

Nuv installed capacity gurinchi, refinery performance gurinchi digulu chendalsina panem ledu, u r just a common man...OMC, Upstream companies gurinchi digulu padaku

Modi goru GPSC nundi KG basin lo block konipinchi danni loss ki ONGC balavantam ga ammesadu PM kabatti...10k crors paina loss , that too a block lo natural gas reserves expect chesina dantlo 10% kooda levu


whom do u blame ?
Guntur, Hyderabad, Andhra, Telangana, Tamilnadu, Karnataka first....India last!!!
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 11:22 pm:       


Tantri_the_mantri:

f we cannot forever improve our refinery opertions, we cannot keep subsidizing it.




First of all OMC la ki under recovery ni calculate chese padhathi lo transparency ledu... crude oil ki , refined product ki iche import weightage nundi how they will calculate the loss ane daniki varaku

what is the baseline price Indian govt consider to calculate under recovery? International market price or local margin ?
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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 11:17 pm:       


Tantri_the_mantri:

Indian GRMs are way less compared to Singarpore/wester GRMs. Refinery inefficiency ni innallu govt. bharistu vachindi. Crude price taggatam manaki oka advantage, dani valana govt. treasury meeda kasta baruvu taggindi.




why would u even compare it with west and singapore? R u comparing the labour price ?

First of all loss ni ye basis meeda compare chesthunnaru adi matladadaam antunna...


Targeted customer base ki subsidy ivochu full ga...there is no problem in that
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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 11:12 pm:       


Lenin:


Indian oil companies are not run the way they are supposed to. Indian GRMs are way less compared to Singarpore/wester GRMs. Refinery inefficiency ni innallu govt. bharistu vachindi. Crude price taggatam manaki oka advantage, dani valana govt. treasury meeda kasta baruvu taggindi. It makes sense not to subsidize anymore and take advantage of lower crude prices.

Instead of subsidizing oil prices, govt. can use it for other works. And if we cannot forever improve our refinery opertions, we cannot keep subsidizing it.

For eg: prthi samvatsarm 100 ki 20 marks tecchukune student ni lifelong 15 extra marks vesi pass chestu untenuse undadu. Fail chesi paradobbali.

Privatize cheste, they will be run for profit and it is better for everyone.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 10:31 pm:       


Tantri_the_mantri:

My question is what role does money play in refinery utilization rates or operational efficiencies ?




I am talking about the comparison rates of Indian tariff with International tariff

Central government should n't do that...even at the current price that the oil companies are selling, they will make profits

but what they will do is , a price comparison and notionally under produce
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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 10:13 pm:       


Tantri_the_mantri:


. Let me ask this properly again.

Oka refinery profitablega nadapataniki, dabbu undatam / lekapotam or dabbunodu/pedodu ki link enti ?
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 10:11 pm:       


Lenin:


im not talking about the impact of fuel prices on economy bhayya.

My question is what role does money play in refinery utilization rates or operational efficiencies ?
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 10:09 pm:       


Tantri_the_mantri:




Economy meeda cascaded effect untundi including fisheries and agricutlure

For example a 20% raise in fuel price will see 8% hike in the prices of commodities

how poor people will meet this? Populist schemes proper ga monitor chesthunnara..do u have sufficient data to support the under recovery calculating by Indian government?

every body plays their game...eventually DB medhavulu fuel subsidy etheyyalantaru
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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 09:45 pm:       


Lenin:


indulo dabbu undataniki lekapotaniki sambandham enti bhayya?
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 08:36 pm:       


Tantri_the_mantri:

asalu privatize chesi paara dobbali ee HPCL/ONGC, etc. ni




saar vaadu...India lo Dole , unemployment allowance lantivi emaina organize chesi privatize cheskondi

meeru ante dabbunna ma rajulu...Pedolla kompallo poyyi velagakkarledA?
Guntur, Hyderabad, Andhra, Telangana, Tamilnadu, Karnataka first....India last!!!
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 03:52 pm:       

Not only center, both Telugu states raised fuel taxes when oil price went down in 2015.
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 03:15 pm:       

RR nailed it

http://www.news18.com/amp/news/india/raghuram-rajan-blasts-n ationalism-identity-politics-says-it-leads-to-first-step-cro ny-capitalism-1505401.html
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 03:13 pm:       

Oil price taggithe price maintain chesi, refineries ki labham teppinchataniki trying. manollu mundara nunche net profits lo unte, ee savings ni consumer ki pass chesetollu..

deenemma, mundarantha kooda worst planning tho nadipi govt. ki pressure pettaru, govt chachinattu subsidies ivlsi vachedi


asalu privatize chesi paara dobbali ee HPCL/ONGC, etc. ni
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 03:10 pm:       

fact is Indian refinery always operate at a loss. innallu govt. subsidize chesedi, but ippudu aapesindi.

manollu refinery utilization rates & efficiencies improve seskuni sel-sufficient avvali; they cant expect the govt. to pay all the bills all the time.

Petrol price perigindi ante, refinery ni betterga nadipi price tagginchali gani, govt subsidize chestu pothe inkeppatiki develop avvam
 

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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 02:53 pm:       

GST LAW: we will punish those who doesnt pass benefit to end customer
Junta: Why are you not passing benefit of Oil price drop?

Bhakths: kotha bangaru lokam

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