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Guru Hero Username: Guru Post Number: 11363 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 107.77.106.122 Rating: N/A |
Thx for offering to help. I will reach out | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 18014 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
I am in the same industry and we were where you are 3-4 years ago ..PM me if you want specifics on what worked for us  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Guru Hero Username: Guru Post Number: 11360 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 192.193.216.148 Rating: N/A |
i work for a major bank and we are not into product development. Our ask of IT is to build applications to support business with better quality and low cost if feasible. IT and Business are two diff organizations. At least in our bank, Business is least interested in introducing changes to IT processes especially when the benefits can't be quantified. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 20644 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
Only IT cannot change its process and sustain with Agile. Every one involved with product needs to embrace it. When I moved, we started from scratch, that is writing from first line of code - and it was agile across two teams. One in Belarus and the other in ATL. Iterative development works, its not like it does not work. But the advantages with Agile is as the name suggests, product can be very dynamic it also means the folks in implementation, Product owners, sales teams everyone is on a constant chatter about the product. it took about an year to release the first version for external demos. but with in six months the product changed drastically when we started taking external feedback. not everyone could get the process and i used to spend one on one with the devs to make them comfortable with the process. In a few months, everyone is proactive to carrying forward the process. | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 18013 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Developers mainly - Java, full stack, bi/etl Also product owners The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Andhravodu Moderator Username: Andhravodu Post Number: 13020 Registered: 07-2015 Rating: N/A |
valla Company emo teliyadu kaani san antonio lo java developers and recently BI developer riles vastunnayi emails | ||
Savyasachi Comedian Username: Savyasachi Post Number: 1975 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 98.192.131.235 Rating: N/A |
ok pinni garu. last 3 clients i worked for has agile and i hated agile/scrum process in two of them. | ||
Pulpfiction Legend Username: Pulpfiction Post Number: 44444 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 64.102.249.10 Rating: N/A |
thanks .. u've said hiring frenzy at ur place .. for what roles ? Nothing succeeds like success ! | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 18012 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Not bothered with any, attended and inhouse training 10 years ago ...but then I have enough street cred The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Pulpfiction Legend Username: Pulpfiction Post Number: 44443 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 64.102.249.10 Rating: N/A |
anand ji .. what all certifications u've done till date on agile ? Nothing succeeds like success ! | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 18011 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Dev and BA roles chesi chala years ayyindi .. but have been an SM, PM and currently manager over a pretty large project portfolios...been an agile evangelist for 10 years in the company too so have seen all phases of transformation.. and it's akka/pinni not bhayyaThe foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 18010 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Make no mistake the transition is not an easy switch - it has taken us many years to get everyone to understand the ask and benefits and it is still work in progress but it has definitely been a much improved model - we continue to find gaps and adjust and evolve The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Savyasachi Comedian Username: Savyasachi Post Number: 1974 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 98.192.131.235 Rating: N/A |
bhayya R u IT developer IT manager Business Manager/BA etc or one of those Scum masters ? | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 18009 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
For the last 3 years have been doing multiple brand new infra/ product development agile along with the more traditional enhancements / maintenance work ... so it can be done The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 18008 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
This is the problem .. Agile will never succeed if it is seen as an IT driven change ... the ownership of the change needs to be from the business - the benefits are all to the business.. thank and if the business is not committed to lead and staff it , IT ends up with just doing iterative development under the waterfall process- been there too The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Guru Hero Username: Guru Post Number: 11359 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 199.67.131.148 Rating: N/A |
totally agree | ||
Guru Hero Username: Guru Post Number: 11358 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 199.67.138.42 Rating: N/A |
i agree but we are not staffed to handle such workload. Business can't start hiring full time PO's just because IT changed their development process. I dont understand the value proposition..Iterative development is working for us with quarterly releases, they tried to jump on agile bandwagon only to realize its not working. | ||
Savyasachi Comedian Username: Savyasachi Post Number: 1972 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 98.192.131.235 Rating: N/A |
mako daridrap scum master dorikadu. g lo dammu ledhu business ki against ga matladatandiki. 2 weeks sprint lo kuda 5 times requirements marustaru that too in the testing phase after seeing the product. even when IT completes the story exactly as defined in the story, after looking at the product the Business feels their shixty idea is after all shixty when they start testing. first of all there wont be any acceptance criteria defined. sprint planning lo noti to cheptaru, acceptance criteria add cheyyandi ra ante cheyyaru, simple ee kada lite antaru, now they change requirements disguised as defects/issues . scrum will not correct business coz they are paying him. agile is good if you are doing product enhancements after the initial release | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 18006 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Guru, Product owner is in the driving seat so their expertise and availability to the team is most critical... memu business ideation separate chesamu - idea, member exp validation, value proposition and measurement criteria define chesake IT backlog ki vastundi ! I always push back on my teams to ensure a proper iteration 0 happens to ensure common and full understanding happens before putting out a timeline... but I do have to keep reminding them not to skip that step ..and they are seeing the difference now .. the product owners who have built confidence with their scrum teams are the most successful ones , they understand the importance of prioritizing tech debt features , can speak to technical issues at status mtgs etc. inka new pO training - needs to be structured - processes , app interactions, dependencies On a side note - we are on hiring frenzy for the last 6 months - ninna vachina memo - contractors ki tappKunda video use cheyyandi phone screen ki - Chala cases lo phone screen ki onsite interview ki connection undataledu ani ... proxies vadutunnaru ani ... The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Guru Hero Username: Guru Post Number: 11357 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 98.109.52.112 Rating: N/A |
Mastaru how do u train new people on the project/application? Maa It kurrol trail by fire ani ani business midaki vodilesevaru BA's ni..stories chadivithey parts parts ga ardam avuddy but it's very hard to understand the big picture. I felt agile is suited for making enchantments when there is a baseline than building it from scratch..again due to the process implemented in my company. Moreover it's highly stressful for product owners, most of us have other responsibilities and dealing with IT is like 25% of our time, so we would rather spend 2-3 weeks to discuss and finalize requirements for a quarter than dealing with this every 2 weeks. Inka daily calls lo join avvatledani edupu  | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 20643 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 98.230.188.25 Rating: N/A |
yes, it will be difficult to change the process, especially if the team is used to another process. With Agile, everyone needs to be on their toes. everyone doing part to keep the burndown reflective of the exact status. It has worked for us, although, it takes a while for people to understand the process. even if one team member is insecure about his abilities it impacts the whole team. we tried different release cycles over the past two years, some went great and some caused alot of stress. yes there is no documentation - the design also evolves with implementations. thats part of agile process. a good deal of seriousness is required when estimating tasks, which includes design decisions and considerations.. | ||
Abhysg Legend Username: Abhysg Post Number: 41658 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 72.219.210.147 Rating: N/A |
dev entha septhe scrum antha raskovali...yes im telling  | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8193 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: N/A |
calls baane vasthunnayi this week, last 4 weeks were very very dry. Start Ups in NYC lo FTE tappinchi, and they backed-out abruptly. now some consulting roles in the pipeline. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Twotown Side Hero Username: Twotown Post Number: 8046 Registered: 09-2016 Posted From: 172.56.11.32 Rating: N/A |
Vannai nee project search ela going? | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8191 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: N/A |
1 year ago Agile endi idi bongu bhoshaanam anukunna. It has to be done right. That is for sure. Otherwise, Classical Waterfall model lo 0 stress, so peaceful. Epics, Stories, Tasks, Sub-Tasks should have to be identified to perfection. The Product Owners are responsible for that clear demarcation. Grooming and Sprint Plannings lo Engineering should only ask for Clarifications. All BRS and SRS should be available on the JIRA Board. Agile is a failure without an excellent scrum master with a mastery on the agile board. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Optionsgenius Comedian Username: Optionsgenius Post Number: 1790 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 99.139.148.100 Rating: N/A |
Here’s a list of 42 things I’d say are part of a Scrum masters job: MeetingsFacilitating meetings for the team. This includes:preparingmoderationpostprocessingHolding retrospec tives. Retrospectives are special meetings, therefore I count them separately.Team DynamicsCoaching team members (e.g. with one-on-one coachings).Mediating through conflicts.Helping the team to make decisions.Fostering the developer team’s self-organisation.Mediating the general conflict of goals between development team (high technical quality) and product owner (more features).LearningContinuing learning regarding everything Agile (e.g. visit user groups, attend conferences, read books, write blogs, etc.).Consulting team members regarding everything Agile.Helping the team to createinformation radiators.Giving feedback to the team.Encouraging the use of Agile Engineering Practices within the development team (this is a hugefield to spent a Scrum Master’s time in, including e.g. one click releases, continuous delivery, feature flags, and many more).Challenge team with Agile management innovations (e.g.FedEx-Days).Exchanging constantly with other Scrum masters in the organisation (e.g. through community of practice).Doing Gemba Walks.ProductHelping to write or split user stories.Helping to write or adapt product visions.Helping to order product backlog items.Helping with the release planning.Being familiar with the team’s work (i.e. the product).Big PictureBringing people together who should talk to each other.Keeping in touch with every stakeholder regularly.Helping the team to report to management.Helping to further the Agile community within the organisation.Organizing exchange events likeOpen Spaces or World Cafés for the team, its stakeholders, and its organisation.Sharing insights throughout the company (micro-blogging, blogging, internal conferences, etc.).Being a contact person for everyone in the team and their stakeholders regarding Agile.Giving learning opportunities to people in the organization (e.g. talks or workshops) and letting them learn important Agile concepts like e.g. technical debt.ChangeHelping the team to get rid of impediments.Suggesting new metrics for the team as catalysts for change.MirrorReflecting Agile and Scrum values to the team.Reminding the team of their arrangements (e.g. policies).Helping the team to continuously improve their process.Reflecting issues to the team through observation from outside of the team.Asking open questions.Checking all the models the team uses (e.g. Sprint backlog, metrics, etc.) and show them differences between the model and the real world.MiscellaneousHelping the team to keep focus (e.g. by acting as a buffer between external distractions and the team).Helping the team to maintain their Scrum tools (Story board, Action board, charts, backlogs, etc.).Helping team and product owner to find a suitabledefinition of donedefinition of ready. | ||
Guru Hero Username: Guru Post Number: 11356 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 107.77.106.15 Rating: N/A |
Agile implementation by our IT was a big failure. Sprint 0 to understand high level e2e reqs and coming up with a functional solution was bypassed and jumped into sprints and stories. It was madness to say the least..no design documentation and everything pointed to those stupid stories. Finally we had to scrap it. Iterative felvelooment with quarterly releases is much better IMO | ||
Gsn1 Side Hero Username: Gsn1 Post Number: 4846 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 100.36.170.176 Rating: N/A |
Andhravodu ------ Ain't that the truth... ------ YES, Bitter Truth indeed. Unfortunately, if there is work, then this Agile process works. Otherwise, all the time goes in planning on how to BS. | ||
Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 56010 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 174.238.130.208 Rating: N/A |
jambu Correst ga cheppaav. Scrum mashtaar ni chuste devs ki drops padaali. Lekapothe no use | ||
Andhravodu Moderator Username: Andhravodu Post Number: 13010 Registered: 07-2015 Rating: N/A |
Ain't that the truth... | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8190 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: N/A |
Urgently say Sorry to Puri. DB lo powerful big-shots andaru kalisi thoda karichesthaaru. PMP and Scrum Master Certifications voorike cheyaledu janaal. Unless it is done right, Agile is a failure. Unless Scrum Masters have the grip on both Dev Team and Product Owners, Agile is a Failure. Scrum Masters have to do their job right, stand-up call taravatha velli desk lo youtube open chesi cat videos cheskuntaa vunte, thokkalo Agile is bound to fail automatically. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Gochi Side Hero Username: Gochi Post Number: 2940 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 199.253.243.2 Rating: N/A |
I too hate scrum/agile methodology...daily stand up call ani andariki time bokka,scrum master ki billing bokka....Tech lead can easily handle the stuff what scrum master is doing ani naa feeling... ee market lo forever developer gaa undatam safe...ee middle managers ni eppudaina peeki dobbuthaaru...either u be a developer or a domain specialist(have complete business knowledge).. | ||
Optionsgenius Comedian Username: Optionsgenius Post Number: 1789 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 99.139.148.100 Rating: N/A |
Agile Coach reqs bochedu vasthunayei with 90-125 billing rates as more clients transforming to agile. agile SM demand will go up, but FT asking everyone. | ||
Gsn1 Side Hero Username: Gsn1 Post Number: 4840 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 100.36.170.176 Rating: N/A |
The whole Agile concept is a BS play. Recently they brought this Agile Methodology to our project (which has been going on since 15+ years) and everyone is lying to the core. Doesn't make sense. Our day starts with BSing on what we did yesterday and what we plan to do today etc. | ||
Optionsgenius Comedian Username: Optionsgenius Post Number: 1788 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 99.139.148.100 Rating: N/A |
nenu oka 6-7 agile teams lo chesaa.. all in HC clients. ekkada tough ga anipiyyaledu SM job.ceremonies/standups/reviews/retros lo.. all are cognizant teams, may be infy/cts/tcs/wipro lo SM cheyyatam safe. as long as PO correct ga stories esthey dev vallu working shippable code echeystaru. | ||
Biggboss Side Hero Username: Biggboss Post Number: 2249 Registered: 08-2017 Posted From: 208.75.143.202 Rating: N/A |
SM is a BS role .. Slow ga companies are realizing it... Most of the time tech leads will do that role or hands on manager does it Nenu recent ga oka interview attend ayyanu.. VP of Engg mentioned they used to have separate people for this role and now he got rid of them | ||
Twotown Side Hero Username: Twotown Post Number: 8033 Registered: 09-2016 Posted From: 172.56.11.32 Rating: N/A |
Ento ee omerica olla kamedy .. ardhamayithe gaani navvalem  | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 58058 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.21 Rating: N/A |
Scrum Master should be strick aapicer like Head Master.. lekapothe andaru kalisi ongopettestharu.. | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8187 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: N/A |
Key Members for successful Agile Implementation are Product Owners, Product Managers and Scrum Master. When they are clear about the Ask, based on their OKRs, Technology will give best solutions. Problems arise when the Ask itself is incomplete. Grooming, Brain-Storming, Sprint-Planning is meant for Engineering to understand the Ask, not to raise questions, seek clarifications and defer the discussion to a later date. "Let's take this Offline, Let's discuss this later" should not be allowed in Agile at any time, even one-on-one discussions. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 20637 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 98.230.188.25 Rating: N/A |
agile work avvaali ante chala dedication kavali... everyone has to play every role.. if there is a team with clearly designted roles, where one is waiting on the otehr, it wont work. Agile is also being used to micromanage as well.. which shouldnt happen either.. | ||
Rgb Side Hero Username: Rgb Post Number: 4489 Registered: 06-2014 Posted From: 162.115.236.102 Rating: N/A |
Agile is being used as a proxy for missing many required steps. They always come back and bite us at the end | ||
Gandhiguevara Legend Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 65068 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 175.101.105.36 Rating: N/A |
Yee thogadia concept ki separate jaabs aaa....jaaga brokka kaakapothenoo | ||
Andhravodu Moderator Username: Andhravodu Post Number: 12995 Registered: 07-2015 Rating: N/A |
I feel bad for them. Iddaru easily over 40, bayata survive avatam kooda kashtam. Developer ayite ekkado oka chota telochu Peekesindi, oka tellodu, inko nalla lady. CIO vachi budget problem ledu antunnadu, but naaku doubt kodutundi | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8186 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.111.147 Rating: N/A |
avevo certifications chesthey scrum masters ayipovachhu, but sustain avvaali ante chaalaa kashtam ani recently learnt. calls lo oka specific situation, scenario, requirement ye discussion ayinaa, context chepithey old Ticket Number cheppey JIRA Mastery with an Elephant's Memory vunte tappithey, Scrum Masters laagatam chaalaa kashtam. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Andhravodu Moderator Username: Andhravodu Post Number: 12994 Registered: 07-2015 Rating: N/A |
3 scrum masters ni peekesaru 5 ppl nunchi 2 ki chesaru. Oka lady kosam maa team lo kotta systems analyst position modalu pettaru. 2 ppl fully gone |