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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 03:39 pm:       


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mana army pak galla ne bayapettaleka poyindi 60 years nunchi.




Evadu cheppadu Sir meeku, with 3 decisive victories over pak
which was having US support...

China emi puding kaadu. In the age of Nuke no one is tope
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:53 pm:       


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Mee mukku veerudini pampusthe kaaki laa mukku yhp o podichi sampestaadu china vallani. Kavithakka aithay Pakistani kadhaa so raayabaraniki pampisthay raajee chesuku vachestundi.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:48 pm:       


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inka nayam BB lo laaga tati chetlu ettukoni prabhas, kattappa ni ellamanaledu





Ohh sheeeet!! Prabhas kooda.


Maa balayya slokam chadivi velu soopisthay china valla planes ships missiles annee reverse lo velli vaalla ke thagili vallu chachipotharu.

Manamu climax lo aong yeskovachu
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:48 pm:       

mana indian books lo sadvadaniki paniki vastai.. mana army pak galla ne bayapettaleka poyindi 60 years nunchi.. china on par with usa.. G musukoni kursunte manchidi
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:47 pm:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

Balakrishna
Chiranjeevi
Allu Arjun
Raviteja
Pawan Kalyan




ballaya and n clan supported can handle paki

siro clan and k supporters can handle chinku

rest of the heros can handle internal crisis during ydduam time...

y should we worry
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:44 pm:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

Verllani pampandi




inka nayam BB lo laaga tati chetlu ettukoni prabhas, kattappa ni ellamanaledu.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:40 pm:       

Balakrishna
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Allu Arjun
Raviteja
Pawan Kalyan


Verllani pampandi



Veella choopule nippulu
Aalochanale thootaalu
Veella velu choopithay china bhasmam

Thodu ga mana veella dialogue writers ni kooda pampandi - they will defeat china.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:30 pm:       


Chandhra:

with some having 13,000 km range




mana vallu cheppaam ledu kani, mana missile can go up to europe, ade china vade rasadu. 13k unna 5k unna pedda difference emi undadu. mana missiles all over china ni easy ga touch chesthayi. so no worries. missiles eskukone daka vasthe nuclear war headers testharu both sides antha dooram velladu anukunta.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:29 pm:       


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Indian Air force is superior to china even in 1962...
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:28 pm:       

In case of a war china has more to loose than us as it is a highly developed nation... All it can to do is play mind games rather than
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:19 pm:       


Andhravodu:



http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a24893/chin a-announces-deployment-long-range-nuclear-missile/
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:16 pm:       


Chandhra:

http://www.news18.com/news/india/indian-military-vs-chinese- military-how-they-compare-1450707.html


aa page choosaka India chesedi emundi. edo oohaganam cheyatam tappinchi, fighting etc tooch

Inka china vaadu vastadu ante rammanu. kondallo dikkumalina death avutundi
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:14 pm:       


Chandhra:

with some having 13,000 km range


 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:14 pm:       


Andhravodu:



http://www.news18.com/news/india/indian-military-vs-chinese- military-how-they-compare-1450707.html
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:09 pm:       


Andhravodu:

allaki kaneesam prithvi/agni class ICBM system kooda ledu




Ekkada vunnavu annai ... They had 75 ICBMs back in 2011 with some having 13,000 km range. Manakanna saala ekkuva . Asalu comparison vaddu.

We need to have Japan, Korea and Philippines (south china sea dispute) come together to form an alliance.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:07 pm:       

India should support uighurs. doola teeruddi
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:07 pm:       

mana 80% forces in india pak vorder..

chintakaya.. poyi china deggara emi potladuthamu..
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 02:03 pm:       

China will not wage war with us but they will try to intimidate us through small confrontations once every year. There is no need for India to shy away from the battle. If we blink they will do it more. We have to act irrationally when confronting a bigger power. Take inspiration from Pakistan strategy towards us. China has more to lose compared to India in the case of total war. Chinese dreams of being superpower will evaporate if they get bogged down in a regional squabble with India.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 01:59 pm:       


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valla army and Airforce strong ...




army ekkadi nunchi vastadi vunkle, ela vastadi? logistics alochinchu. Aa western mountains lo 5 million ni pampistaara? Winter lo emi tindi tintaaru?

inka airforce strong anedi ikkade choostunna. French planes emanna konte different kaani chinese made ante ki ki
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 01:59 pm:       

China should support independent Sikkim. Dhoola theeruthundi.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 01:57 pm:       


Andhravodu:



aircraft carrier? adhem pedda visayam kaadhu allaki oka koni denkutharu...
mana daggara vunnadhi pippu chesesina russia dhe kadhaa?
valla army and Airforce strong ...
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 01:52 pm:       


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ippudu omerica, russ,britan,france tappa verevi match kastam


internet hype

Navy wins wars. Only US has a navy and command system capable of going anywhere. china ki inko 10-20 years pattuddi oka supercarrier tayaru chese range ki ravali ante. In fact Modi is trying to build a supercarrier for India ani chadivinattu gurtu
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 01:52 pm:       


Ruj:

ee thedlo pessimistic postlu esthuna olaki..china was never battle tested..no one knows what they r capable/incapable of..vala economic power choosi velaki antha baaruna untademo anukotam minchi ee chinki galu peddha yuddalu chesindhi emi ledu unlike our indian troops..




you are right....stalemate avuthadhi....actual ga they import oil and other goods....akkada sea lo block chestha....sankanakipotharu....anti missile defence system okati ledhu mana deggara kaani....its not easy for either of the countries to claim as winners...
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 01:51 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

India has 110 - 120 warheads.
Jyna has 270 warheads.


warheads undatam veru, delivery system veru

what will china use to deliver? 2 bit submarines? vallaki kaneesam prithvi/agni class ICBM system kooda ledu and even if they did, 250km range ekkadi nunchi vestaru? what aeroplanes?
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 01:47 pm:       

sooner or later we will have to be proactive and tame this dirty dragon..

manaki northeastlo eppudu lolli ledu very few exceptions like mongols etc....problem always was from west side from tulak barbarians..
all that changed once this galeez called china took over tibet..


ee thedlo pessimistic postlu esthuna olaki..china was never battle tested..no one knows what they r capable/incapable of..vala economic power choosi velaki antha baaruna untademo anukotam minchi ee chinki galu peddha yuddalu chesindhi emi ledu unlike our indian troops..


62lo odipoyam due to horrible infrastructure coupled with horrendous political decisions..

but adhe 67 lo we drove chinese away in nathula and cho la..dani gurinchi evar matladar..

what we need is political will and to be proactive..our army is much more capable than what we think..
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 01:12 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:




Bongemi Kaadu , Both will be at loss

Nuke power evadaggara unna, chalu , rendo vadu bhayapadalsinde.

Phychological war fare, chestunnaru
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 12:55 pm:       


Andhravodu:

China di uttutti power.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_we apons
India has 110 - 120 warheads.
Jyna has 270 warheads.
kelikithey bokka manake.
Sino-Indian war of 1962 lo 12000 Indian Soldiers went to fight 80000 Jynese Soldiers.
Atal Behari Vajpayee seppinattu, it is India's bad-luck that all our neighbors are rascals, including Lanka and possibly even Burma.
"Chill Bro.
I told you to let it go!!"
- The Budhha.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 12:52 pm:       

BAbais.. battalu simpukokandi..

china vadu.. paki vadu.. coordinate chestu estaru.. manaku unna ara kora army ki.. bongu kuda cheyyalemu.. unna dabbu antha akkada pettaly ..economy will collapse.. india will go back 30 40 years back..

edo okati.. aa yokka devudu noru icchindi discuss cheyyandaniki..
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 12:51 pm:       


Andhravodu:

okkati kooda kaadu. China di uttutti power. Japan ki Mongolia ki ongunna desam adi



a days veru le.. ippudu omerica, russ,britan,france tappa verevi match kastam..
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 12:50 pm:       

China roju rojuki war hysteria create chestundhi...india mathram befitting reply ivatle

Brahma chellamey roju vestunnadu China paina ...it shows gravity of the situation...

mona kuda INdia japan joint naval execise chesindhi...villaithe South korea kuda kalupukovali..testing time for Modi's foriegn policy...hawkish pokuna tactful ga povaali
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 12:45 pm:       

edi emanna.. manaku antha ledu.. vadggeyyandi..
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 12:41 pm:       


Chandhra:

and they are very powerful. They are using North Korea, to keep US in check. Russia is wary of the China's power


okkati kooda kaadu. China di uttutti power. Japan ki Mongolia ki ongunna desam adi
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 12:40 pm:       


Aristotle:




China wants direct access to Bay of Bengal ... and they are very powerful. They are using North Korea, to keep US in check. Russia is wary of the China's power. Indians treat North eastern people as 2nd class citizens.

Too many Cons.

What can Modi do ?
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 12:39 pm:       

endi peekedi, 2 countries emi peekalevu

Tibet ki velli India vallu fighting cheyala, jarigedi kaadu le
 

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New Delhi's accomodative stance has encouraged dangerous Chinese adventurism

The impact has been exacerbated by Indian blunders that have compounded the country's "China problem" and undercut its leverage. New Delhi was one of the first capitals to embrace the Mao Zedong-led regime in Beijing after the Chinese Communist Party seized power in 1949. But just months later, Mao began annexing the historical buffer of Tibet, eliminating India's outer line of defense by 1951.

Led by Jawaharlal Nehru, a romantic who viewed China sympathetically as a fellow post-colonial state, India went on to surrender extraterritorial rights in Tibet inherited from the U.K., its former colonial master. It also acknowledged the "Tibet region of China," without getting Beijing to recognize the existing Indo-Tibetan border. Ironically, the pact that recognized China's rights in Tibet was named after the Tibetan Buddhist doctrine of Panchsheela, the five principles of peaceful coexistence.

Almost half a century later, India went further still, using the legal term "recognize" in a document signed by the heads of government of the two countries in 2003 that formally accepted Tibet as "part of the territory of the People's Republic of China."

DICTATING TERMS Meanwhile, China has sought to crimp the Dalai Lama's freedom within a democratic India. Initially, Beijing objected to official discussions between the Dalai Lama and foreign heads of state or government. But China has progressed over the years to protesting his presence at any state-linked event, and even visits to other countries, such as a purely religious trip to Mongolia in November.

The New Delhi event that riled Beijing in December was organized for children's welfare by Nobel laureates, a group that includes the Dalai Lama. Demanding that India respect China's "core interests" and refrain from causing "any disturbance" to bilateral ties, China couched its protest in imperious terms. Instead of censuring Beijing for seeking to dictate terms to India, New Delhi responded almost apologetically that the meeting was a "nonpolitical event."

The more accommodative that India has become of China's claims and concerns over Tibet, the more assertive Beijing has been in upping the ante. For example, in ratcheting up the Arunachal Pradesh issue in recent years, Beijing has contended that the region -- almost three times larger than Taiwan -- must be "reunified" with the Chinese state to respect Tibetan sentiment. The flimsy basis of its historical claim has been exposed by the Dalai Lama, who has publicly declared that Arunachal was never part of Tibet.

By bringing its position on Tibet into alignment with China's claim, India has not won Chinese gratitude; rather, it has boosted Beijing's clout and encouraged Chinese re-engineering of transboundary river flows, on which India is critically dependent.

According to Aquastat, a database maintained by the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization, 718 billion cu. meters of surface water a year flows out of the Tibetan plateau and the Chinese regions of Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia to neighboring countries. Of that amount, 48.33% runs directly into India. In addition, Nepal's Tibet-originating rivers drain into India's Gangetic basin. So no country is more vulnerable than India to China's current focus on building cascades of large dams on international rivers.

India can reclaim its Tibet leverage by emphasizing that its acceptance of China's claim over Tibet hinged on a grant of genuine autonomy to the region. Instead of autonomy, Tibet has experienced tightening political control and increasing repression, triggering grassroots desperation and a wave of self-immolations.

A braver Indian approach would include showing Tibet in its official maps in a different color from the rest of China and using expressions such as "the Indo-Tibet border," instead of "the India-China border." Using measures such as this, India can subtly reopen Tibet as an outstanding issue without having to formally renounce any of its previously stated positions.

Whatever it does, India must not shy away from urging China to begin a process of reconciliation and healing in Tibet. Having ceased to be a political buffer between China and India, Tibet can still become a political bridge between the world's demographic titans if Beijing initiates a process of genuine reconciliation there to ease the feelings of estrangement among Tibetans. Otherwise, Tibet will remain at the core of the China-India divide.

India has played an important role in aiding the survival of Tibetan culture by funding Tibetan schools for the large number of exiles it hosts. By recalibrating its policy, India could elevate Tibet as a strategic and environmental issue that impinges on international security and climatic and hydrological stability.

Brahma Chellaney is a geostrategist and the author of nine books, including "Water: Asia's New Battleground," the winner of the Bernard Schwartz Award.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 12:21 pm:       

Brahma Chellaney: India should rein in China's dangerous antics in Tibet
New Delhi's accomodative stance has encouraged dangerous Chinese adventurism

While it has become fashionable to pair China and India as if they were joined at the hip, it is often forgotten that the two have little in common politically, economically or culturally.

Comparatively speaking, the countries are new neighbors. The vast Tibetan plateau, encompassing an area greater than Western Europe, separated the two civilizations throughout history, limiting their interaction to sporadic cultural and religious contact.

It was only after China's annexation of Tibet in 1951 that Chinese army units appeared for the first time on India's Himalayan frontiers. This was followed 11 years later by a war in which China's battlefield triumph sowed the seeds of greater rivalry.

Today, Tibet remains at the center of the China-India divide, fueling territorial disputes, diplomatic tensions and feuds over river-water flows. For example, Beijing was harshly critical of New Delhi in December for allowing the exiled Dalai Lama -- who has lived in India since fleeing Tibet in 1959 -- to visit the presidential palace for a public event and meet President Pranab Mukherjee, India's head of state.

Further diplomatic protests from Beijing are expected in the coming weeks when the Dalai Lama begins a religious tour of Arunachal Pradesh, a sprawling Indian state famous for its virgin forests and soaring mountain ranges. China claims the territory, which it has called "South Tibet" since 2006.

Tibet is an issue of relevance far beyond China and India. With its lofty terrain, featuring the world's tallest peaks and largest concentration of glaciers and riverheads, the Tibetan plateau influences atmospheric circulation -- and therefore climate and weather patterns -- across the northern hemisphere.

China has turned this resource-rich but ecologically fragile plateau into the center of its mining and dam-building activities. With the plateau warming nearly twice as fast as the rest of the world, glacial recession in the eastern Himalayas and the thawing of permafrost in Tibet are increasingly apparent.

WEDGE ISSUE The environmental crisis haunting the plateau threatens the ecological well-being of multiple nations, including those dependent on the 10 major Asian river systems that originate on the Tibetan massif. But the environmental problems are dwarfed by political strains in the region.

China lays claim to vast tracts of Indian Himalayan land on the basis of purported Tibetan ecclesial or tutelary links. Tibet's long shadow over China-India relations is also apparent from the Dalai Lama's lengthy residence in the Indian hill resort of Dharamsala, the seat of the Tibetan government-in-exile.

The fall of Tibet represented the most far-reaching geopolitical development in modern Indian history. It gave China borders with India, Bhutan and Nepal for the first time, and facilitated a Sino-Pakistani strategic axis by opening a common land corridor.

http://asia.nikkei.com/magazine/20170119/Viewpoints/Brahma-C hellaney-India-should-rein-in-China-s-dangerous-antics-in-Ti bet?n_cid=NARAN012

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