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Andhravodu
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Cool_indian:Why does it have to go to senate
Any treaty has to be ratified by senate. Adi treaty kaadu agreement ani obama skirted ee case lo. Because it isn't senate approved, a president can dismiss it also, which Trump promptly did |
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Cool_indian
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Jai_ycp:Obama signs agreement. Does not even send to senate
Why does it have to go to senate ? trump kooda unilateral(with heavy opposition from the industry and political circles) ga pull out chesadu kada inspite of the backlash |
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Theaviator
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Jai_ycp:
asalu subject ardham avtunda neeku.. 1997 lo outline of the agreement sign chesaru.. like a termsheet.. |
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Jai_ycp
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Theaviator:
Clinton sign chesindhi emiti? Velli cnn abc vallaki cheppu? Valluki teliyadhu nekokadikintelsindhi.
Nuvvu pettina chronology lo Clinton sign chesindhi ledhu. Kikiki.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
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Jai_ycp:
Kyoto Protocol
Chronology
1992 The UN Conference on the Environment and Development is held in Rio de Janeiro. It results in the Framework Convention on Climate Change ("FCCC" or "UNFCCC") among other agreements.
1995 Parties to the UNFCCC meet in Berlin (the 1st Conference of Parties (COP) to the UNFCCC) to outline specific targets on emissions.
1997 In December the parties conclude the Kyoto Protocol in Kyoto, Japan, in which they agree to the broad outlines of emissions targets.
2002 Russia and Canada ratify the Kyoto Protocol to the UNFCCC bringing the treaty into effect on February 16, 2005.
2012 On December 31, 2012, the first commitment period under the Protocol expired.
 anduke cheppedhi knowledge lekunda posts eyyodhani} |
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Jai_ycp
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Clinton signs agreement. Senate does not ratify
Obama signs agreement. Does not even send to senate
One is tooch second is agreement anta.
Malla deenik blatant lie, half knowledge anta. 
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
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Jai_ycp
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Theaviator:
Ne sontha pandutyamu lona? Cnn abc vadu withdraw pulled out annadu. Nuvvu okkadive too has asalu agreement ledhu antunnavu.
Malla needhi full knowledge
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
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Discoveringself
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Pete_sampras:What does this prove?? evo random 2 tweets pattukochi Libs antunnava...LOL
nothing le man......just for fun.....but as u see, normally they become apologists.... |
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Pete_sampras
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Discoveringself:https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/871204608319905792
What does this prove?? evo random 2 tweets pattukochi Libs antunnava...LOL
PS: Nuvvu ilanti baseless link techi conservative ne comedy chesina ide post esevadini... |
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Discoveringself
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the libbies for you...
https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/871204608319905792
lol... |
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Theaviator
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Jai_ycp:
Clinton signed only protocol (ante framework)... loll
Commitment period was a separate agreement.. effective in 2005 for a commitment period 2008-2012
Half knowledge tho evo linklu esukochi enduku spamming |
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Jai_ycp
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Theaviator:
Cnn vadi site lo article
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/04/17/opin ions/trump-paris-climate-agreement-sachs/index.html
Everybody uses same word pulled out or withdraw
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Anand_n
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Ramkumarudu:
Some reading you may find interesting -
These are not the people under your category of business interests..
http://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/legacy/assets/docu ments/global_warming/scientists-statement-on.pdf
And the verdict on climategate emails :
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/solutions/fight-misinfo rmation/debunking-misinformation-stolen-emails-climategate.h tml#.WTN_hIVOmaM
Who you choose to believe is your prerogative - I lean towards the scientific opinion 
The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
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Jai_ycp
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Theaviator:
Clinton signed Kyoto in 1997. And link chaduvu
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
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Jai_ycp:
Paris deal ratified by US, requires president signature only which obama signed |
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Jai_ycp
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https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/time- us-president-dumped-global-climate-deal/story%3Fid%3D4777100 5
Edho semantics meedha pattukuni lie Anna parvaledhu Mari blatant anta. Papamu abc vadiki telisyadhu
https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/time- us-president-dumped-global-climate-deal/story%3Fid%3D4777100 5
I can bring cnn and other web sites which used same word as withdraw
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Jai_ycp
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Theaviator:
Paris deal was ratified by senate.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
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Jai_ycp:Us withdrew from Kyoto deal which was a binding back in 2001. What trump did is nothing new.
blatant lie
only Protocol was signed by Clinton in 97.. Treaty was never Ratified..
Bush declared he will not Ratify the treaty/agreement |
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Kadapafan
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Ramkumarudu:
I was a big believer in global warming until I read the facts on who is behind it pushing it: European Elitists - like UN to seek more global power and control, Al Gore, Elon Musk and of course China who conveniently gets the best deal or does not take part in it.
oho, telugu vallu abstract thinkingaa lol, nee metta telivi lo ee deal nunchi US backout avvadam vallu evariki benefit ledantaav kikiki |
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Paris deal nunchi bayataki vasthe Coal jobs perugutaya
US doesn't need any coal for internal consumption.. us coal has highest sulphur content compared to any other quality like Indonesian, Australian, South African/Indian.. double pollutant
in fact now many large mines in US Appalachian basin are owned by Indian companies.. they brought them at distress value.. some us mining cos opened offices in s'pore to market in Asia..
US doesn't have adequate rail and port infra to become a net exporter with significant market share.. they are at least 2 decades behind.. |
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Ramkumarudu
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Hahaha this thread oka range lo vellindi.
I am glad kontha mana Telugu vallu at least abstract critical thinking ki ready ga unnaru.
I was a big believer in global warming until I read the facts on who is behind it pushing it: European Elitists - like UN to seek more global power and control, Al Gore, Elon Musk and of course China who conveniently gets the best deal or does not take part in it.
What sealed it for me was the hacked Climategate emails and complete lack of ethics and media coverage. It is a shame we need hacked emails now to find out real facts. Investigative journalism is long dead now. I heard Drudge Report became famous because he was the first news outlet online or offline to have the guys to publish about the Bill Clinton lewinsky scandal as other networks who already had the news sat on it because of fear.
Now imagine if they held on to news that they already have why will they even bother looking for the truth or facts... Follow the money and business interests is all I ask. Partisanship Dem vs Rep will only embolden these rich elite even more. |
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Jai_ycp:
Us withdrew from Kyoto deal which was a binding back in 2001. What trump did is nothing new.
There were clear requests to be included in the deal before US broke kyoto or any other consortium. Include my demands i will sign the deal if not i walk away. Thats simple life
However this time no word on what US wants to be in the deal Just one sentence i want better deal lol ...Everyone knows Its nothing but a orchestrated partisan dance. Base cheers ...Base believes.. End of the story !!! |
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Jai_ycp:Us withdrew from Kyoto deal which was a binding back in 2001. What trump did is nothing new.
Trump fans around are bringing the argument about bad deal and how he will fix . Here is the best answer I heard
"Getting a binding international deal without the US agreeing to reduce their emissions further is more difficult than the existing one trump walked away from. Before Paris, there was Bali, Doha, Copenhagen, and other some other failures .They likely had Kyoto in mind with the welshers, cheaters, and onlookers to bring a more inclusive agreement.
As it was, there wasn't a pressing reason to walk away from this deal other than to piss people off.
Renegotiate, do nothing or do both was all possible while staying in the accords and it's harder to say we'd have more leverage now that he pissed off the parties he has to negotiate with. That's assuming he's honest or genuine in restructuring a new deal to a problem he hasn't backed away from calling a hoax.
How many times do we have to hear Trump ••••• about he didn't expect how hard and complex something was right after he broke it in the name of fixing it?" |
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Teenmaar:
Us withdrew from Kyoto deal which was a binding back in 2001. What trump did is nothing new.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu |
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Jai_ycp:There was 1 degree change in temperature. I don't know if the data was reliable
http://www.imd.gov.in/section/climate/StateLevelClimateChang eMonoFinal.pdf
Lot of data if interested. |
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Nisarga:
I posted a link with temperatures all the way from 1970-2017. There was 1 degree change in temperature. I don't know if the data was reliable
Pete_sampras:
Climate change kadhu. Okate climate tho memu inni rojulu vunnamu. Ila memu anukuntamu ani nuvvu nammavu ante
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
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Nisarga
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Nisarga:
Summers used to be less hot.. |
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Nisarga
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how does global warming happen anedi determine chesara? the mechanism of it.
my stand is I am not sure.. but i think there is definitely more temperature in Bangalore now than it was 10 years ago. winter would be more cold and summers more hot. now thats not the case. |
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http://i.imgur.com/UfxCBIc.jpg |
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https://skepticalscience.com/argument.php |
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Andhravodu:Trump ki roots chala peddavi,
Agree...his roots started growing when below guy came into WH
Andhravodu:hope and change peddayana
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Andhravodu
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Pete_sampras:Trump came from internet (twitter)....trump is fake anevu
twitter ninna kaka monna vachindi. Trump ki roots chala peddavi, unlike hope and change peddayana |
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Andhravodu:internet lo vache pratidi fake ani matram nammutanu
Trump came from internet (twitter)....trump is fake anevu....YCP ochi karustadu... |
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Andhravodu:daani gurinchi vetikite, they agree that climate change is happening. anthropogenic reasons valla anataniki proof unda ante, that's a different story
The problem is these things cannot be proved one way or the other. Mother nature is too complex for that. You have to go with what the general consensus is and try to fix this. If you dont take action and it is true, the results are disastrous |
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Discoveringself:again pollution diff topic....and every society can work for itself.....
Could you elaborate?? why pollution is a diff topic?? |
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Andhravodu
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Teenmaar: Bottom line man doesn't make climate change, they just accelerate it. I have no idea since when it became political
anything and everything can become political. Ekkuva matladite emails ni kooda politicize chestamu  |
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Pete_sampras:you are on the other side of the aisle
 ilanti vishayallo sides endi raa ayyaa
internet lo vache pratidi fake ani matram nammutanu, dhruva cinema lo dialog laga, business is behind everything. It's just a matter of which side yells the most |
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Teenmaar:At least 100 papers publish every year on climate Changes and human activity or habits or companies that screw with local
Discoveringself:even the best of their lot sidesteps the lying and cooking data to construct this cooling, warming, climate chnage theory
Discoveringself:.at least they dont have an open mind to re-think their position.....which was formed based on lies and cooked data....
Ela react kavalo ardam avvatam ledu... |
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Bithiri_bathi:lol...climate change/global warming deny cheyyali antey...I am not a trump fan disclaimer must anukunta
more than disco at hand....ee trump hatred tho arguing half the people....so wanted that out of the discussion.....
if impressed with Trump, I wudn't mind supporting him.......although commie liberals are one of the most violent mobs these days.... |
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Discoveringself:where is proof for man made climate change antey.......
At least 100 papers publish every year on climate Changes and human activity or habits or companies that screw with local
Natural Resources . Beyond this literature there are so many labs performing simulation studies. The science is clear and clearly quantifies PPM of co2 now vs 150 yrs ago or even 5000 years ago. Bottom line man doesn't make climate change, they just accelerate it. I have no idea since when it became political . Base happy 😊 is everything that matters |
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Andhravodu:daani gurinchi vetikite, they agree that climate change is happening. anthropogenic reasons valla anataniki proof unda ante, that's a different story
Ila matladithe how does 99% of the things work in this universe ante no one knows and no one has proof...but when its hurts big businesses they seek proof...I know you are intelligent enough to understand it but you are on the other side of the aisle...anthe kada... |
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Bithiri_bathi:lol...climate change/global warming deny cheyyali antey...I am not a trump fan disclaimer must anukunta
Trump cult alantidi mari... |
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Pete_sampras:97% of the scientists believe in climate change
daani gurinchi vetikite, they agree that climate change is happening. anthropogenic reasons valla anataniki proof unda ante, that's a different story |
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Discoveringself:anyways, not a trump fan.......
lol...climate change/global warming deny cheyyali antey...I am not a trump fan disclaimer must anukunta
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Discoveringself:believe enti? is it a religion or something? proof pettochchu kadaa......
Scientists are believing the 'FACT' not praying because its not a religion... |
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https://climate.nasa.gov/system/content_pages/main_images/20 3_co2-graph-021116.jpeg
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
NASA kuda wrong ante evvadu emi cheyyaledu... |
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Pete_sampras:97% of the scientists believe in climate change
believe enti? is it a religion or something? proof pettochchu kadaa......
again pollution diff topic....and every society can work for itself..... |
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Discoveringself:this thread is a testimony to that fact
97% of the scientists believe in climate change and yes they agree that its human activity but people like you deny it...calling it as cooked up story...
Forget about science for a moment...when you come to india next time, observe the pollution on the streets and try to recollect how much pollution we had 20 years back...you would notice the difference...
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Teenmaar:Every argument based on facts starts with this line
this thread is a testimony to that fact......where is proof for man made climate change antey.......all they come up with are tangential arguments or some kinda name calling and heckling.........leave alone the proof or reason.......at least they dont have an open mind to re-think their position.....which was formed based on lies and cooked data....
added to that, support from Full-on hatred person like you seals the deal.....just for in for sake, are you John Dayal fan or something?......... |
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Andhravodu:trump fans evadu kadannadu, even ycp annai is saying the same. oka saari choodu
Ycp unkul changes his positions like a chameleon...its hard to keep track of his positions...as of yesterday he said he doesn't believe in climate change....had he changed his stance?? if yes?? for how long?? till next trump's tweet?? |
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Discoveringself:libtards hardly have any brain
Every argument based on facts starts with this line |
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Andhravodu:society wouldn't know shixt from bullshixt man....
up to u.....I wud always go for organic growth of things....and ppl have innate ability to make the right choices.......than intellectual mafia imposing forced things on society.....
let economics decide......and I dunno who exactly are "greenies"..... |
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Andhravodu:trump fans evadu kadannadu, even ycp annai is saying the same. oka saari choodu
libtards hardly have any brain.......even the best of their lot sidesteps the lying and cooking data to construct this cooling, warming, climate chnage theory.........they just find it convenient to ignore......mostly like a cult.......not open minded to discuss things based on facts.......
anyways, not a trump fan.......and defintiely not impressed much after his election.......even a nromal person can question the lies and doubt the intentions.......
EU is the best thing for europe annaaru.........look at european countries after 15 years......and u know how these globalist policies turned out..... |
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Discoveringself:if someone is doing a good thing....societies automatically accept it
society wouldn't know shixt from bullshixt man....
Almost always a few people set the rules. The goal of a capitalist system is to encourage such people and get innovation. Marketing will take care of acceptance
Discoveringself:I doubt greenies really worked on those regulations to make villages
they definitely didn't work on it. If greenies were given the choice, we would get much more revolutionary change. But that would leave a bit of economic void
The greenies though nudge and push so that even incremental change happens. You win these short battles enough so that a while later, the big task is completed |
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Andhravodu:nuvvu greenies extremists ante cheppanu bro. Greenies are extremists for a common cause ani
I doubt greenies really worked on those regulations to make villages, cities a better place........like the Indian NGOs run by foreign money..........most of these intellectual greenies are brainwashed "global warming is a science" zombies.....u r giving those zombies credit for some good things that happened in the past......
if someone is doing a good thing....societies automatically accept it.......no need to lie........no need to cook up data.......and each country can work for the benefit of its own......no need for absolute global agreement with skewed benefits and risks...... |
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Pete_sampras:
trump fans evadu kadannadu, even ycp annai is saying the same. oka saari choodu |
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Haley: 'President Trump believes the climate is changing'
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/politics/nikki-haley-donald-tr ump-climate-change-cnntv/index.html
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Anand_n:If they are proven on scale why do they need dole-outs is my question
National benefit. Airlines ki subsidies istaru, and they are propped up if they go bankrupt. If they go down, transportation goes down
same as such with fossil fuels. It's literally driving the country |
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Jai_ycp:
I have seen numbers ranging from 3-4 billion in subsidies to fossil fuels - breakdown research cheyyaledu - but the drilling companies were screaming blue murder at the thought of losing subsidies...
Andhravodu,
If they are proven on scale why do they need dole-outs is my question.. i
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Discoveringself:now u r taking it into another direction....apples and oranges
nuvvu greenies extremists ante cheppanu bro. Greenies are extremists for a common cause ani
Paris accord and US energy requirements, I kind of support trump if he can deliver on his 3% growth. If not, it's a big failure. One thing though is, aadu nijam gane mondodu. That may or may not be a good quality, but it's kind of refreshing |
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do we need to preserve the resources and environment to the future generations or distribute it to the current generation equally!! what is the right thing to do!!? |
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Andhravodu:Take any field. let's say cars. car improvements, mileage improvements etc, antaa companies didn't voluntarily sponsor the research. It took a lot of nudging and criticism
now u r taking it into another direction....apples and oranges........self sustainable regulations by local authorities........and local politics plays out differently.........and the rules being same for everyone is probably fair...and ppl in one country are all aligned mostly in love with their country.....
global pacts.........involving all countries.........and diff rules for diff people is altogether a diff topic which needs a different viewpoint..........like european union and these gloablists without any political repurcussions and not being answerable to anyone acts out differently....
and like i said....the interests of all countries will not be aligned....they all are competitors......not collaborators like the citizens of one country....... |
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Nisarga:if ye,s has be the mechanism be established??
correction... has the mechanism been established?? |
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Nisarga:
em telcharu ikkada... global warming real or not!!?
is earth closed system with respect to climate/weather or can it radiate out to the milkyway or galaxy or to the universe. if ye,s has be the mechanism be established??
is heatdeath real!!? would it ever happen!! |
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Nisarga:ikkada em jarugundi asala... evaraina klupthanga cheppagalara
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ikkada em jarugundi asala... evaraina klupthanga cheppagalara... ee thread antha chadive vopika ledu |
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Anand_n:How much are the subsidies given to fossil fuels today
fossil fuels are proven in scale, aa vishayam marchipotunnaru. Renewables are the future, but accounting for time dimension, takes a while |
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Anand_n:How much are the subsidies given to fossil fuels today
what are the subsidies given to them? don't show their perceived impact on climate and environment as subsidy. There is actually carbon tax on them. I would be interested to see how much they provide
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Jai_ycp:
How much are the subsidies given to fossil fuels today and why are they needed if we let market forces decide?
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Jai_ycp:if these billionaires and hedge fund managers believe that renewable energy is viable and cheap
eellu matalu cheppadam, foundations petti tax avoidance cheyatam tappite, US lo ee scale lo chesinavi ledu
valla pro leaders unnappudu increase our taxes ani nakka statements istaru. tump ippudu actual ga increase cheyali, france 75% tax esinappudu jump kottinattu run chestaru |
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/03/trump-sig ns-bills-assisting-law-enforcement-behind-you-100-percent/
great job trump. what a difference you make. literally previous administration hounded the people who protect us (police, army) and you stand behind them.
#MAGA
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if these billionaires and hedge fund managers believe that renewable energy is viable and cheap, spend money develop tech make it cheaper for people to adopt and reap benefits. fair deal.
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Anand_n:And where do you think the money to invest in the renewables come from ?
public and provate fuds, bonds etc. where else? how different it is from drug companies investigating new drug? public spending is always limited in research.
The US spent $456.1 billion for research and development (R&D) in 2013, the most recent year for which such figures are available, according to the National Science Foundation. The private sector accounted for $322.5 billion, or 71%, of total national expenditures, with universities and colleges spending $64.7 billion, or 14%, in second place.[3]
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small business cheer trump pullout
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/business/dealbook/trump-c limate-small-businesses.html
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Jai_ycp:
Atleast you agree on investing in renewables ..And where do you think the money to invest in the renewables come from ?
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Anand_n:I am not idealistic enough to make extreme sacrifices and go extremely green now I like my comforts ...and will do what I can when I can and there are a lot of people like me who will make the change when it's in the realm of the possible economically - pay some more for green/ organic alternatives
perfect. same with industries and people whose livelihood depends upon coal industries. all we want is gradual transition.
govt spending on renewable sources can be encouraged but dont do it at the expense of other industry.
dont tax fossil fuels and use the money for your tech.
i oen an electric car but did not buy for global climate reasons just made a sensible decision based on my needs at that time.
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Lol
vere thread lo cheppanu. Southern states development almost all of it is fueled by cheap energy. AC vadatam maneste I think half of carbon footprint tagginchochu, but southern states unlivable appudu |
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Jai_ycp:you said this will not happen. now says 4 years. tomorrow say 8 years. we live today to fight for another day.
When?
You are right - I am not idealistic enough to make extreme sacrifices and go extremely green now I like my comforts ...and will do what I can when I can and there are a lot of people like me who will make the change when it's in the realm of the possible economically - pay some more for green/ organic alternatives .. and that is why the regs are important to make and impact - a few people going extreme does not change the course of society ... a lot of people making gradual changes does
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Anyhow bottom line the forgotten man has no longer forgotten. we will no longer bullied by the pseudo intellectuals snobbishly imposing their world view because we have a bully who will bully the bullies. #MAGA.
on a side bar,even trump would not have spent this much time. lick your wounds and wait for 4 or 8 or 12 years.
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Anand_n:Actually been planning to downsize - tied to school for a couple years and then will get the house footprint way down..
wow such an idealistic. 2 smart to downsize when you are done with kids school. .
Anand_n:- We / and the kids can ride out 4 years of this and hopefully correct some of it later - your coal workers cannot
you said this will not happen. now says 4 years. tomorrow say 8 years. we live today to fight for another day.
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Andravodu brother
Excellent examples in simple terms.
It is either demand or government(s) initiation/nudging that brings change that is helpful changes that make real changes in the society.
If it is COMPLETELY left to businesses, they always like NO RULES or NO REGULATIONS and ask government to let them do WHATEVER they want to do.
Without government nudging/regulations, Blacks still would have been discriminated as a second class citizens, women still would have been getting equal rights, Gays would have been keep discriminated, Pharmacies/Doctor's wouldn't treat women who need abortions, Cars would still be giving 5 to 6 MPG and so many.
All the above and many more became possible because of government regulations. For sure TOO MANY regulations are also NOT GOOD. |
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Jai- ycp ,
Actually been planning to downsize - tied to school for a couple years and then will get the house footprint way down..
As to the rest the impact will be to our kids not so much for us - We / and the kids can ride out 4 years of this and hopefully correct some of it later - your coal workers cannot
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Discoveringself:
Take any field. let's say cars. car improvements, mileage improvements etc, antaa companies didn't voluntarily sponsor the research. It took a lot of nudging and criticism
Similarly construction teesukundam. US or other first world countries lo, you will see that construction is clean. India laga road meeda vadileyyandi ante, these people would've loved to do it...
But, an involuntary side effect is these practices demanded complete safety and automation made lot of strides. It's now teetering the global economy and will put lot of people out of work. exciting times... |
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Andhravodu:you may not like what they do, but will get the benefits
benefits antey how do we know?........nancy pelosi gaaru cheppinattu, first sign it into law and then u will know details of obamacare ani..........I don't know whether it is a great idea to sign up for something like that....
let public and economy decide anipistundi.......than the great visionary politicians and ofcourse selfcentred and selfabsorbed business people.......mandating things and telling everyone what is great for them....... |
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Discoveringself:
you're right that greenies are extreme
but you know what, I'm glad they are extremes and fighting
you may not like what they do, but will get the benefits
These extremists are necessary catalysts for improvement. Without them, companies will always settle for cheapest way of production
with these safety rules, it'll become better for all and more jobs. This makes it expensive, and that's just how it is
I don't think you will settle in India today because it's cheap than wherever you are right now |
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#MAGA
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/87044500112535552 2
The best Odarpu |
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Kadapafan:Even developing countries like India have subsidies if source is renewables, poor people in US hurting, rich people in India enjoying getting benefitsaa kikiki
let them do it....if it is good for them........ainaa antha great theory and unquestionable stuff aithey..........no need to sell it so hard....with lies and manipulated data.........whole world will embrace it.......
what is the need to lie, cook data and come up with some theories?......may be you guys shud start with that........rather than beating around all the bushes in the world........ |
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Gsn1:I was saying there are nut cases/extremists on both sides.
Climate change is a science and man made argument lo......only one extremist side I see......
ee great greenery intellectuals....let them pay all their extra money and buy expensive renewable energy stuff........and contribute towards the research....such that it becomes more affordable and becomes a real alternative........
why shud the masses lose their livelihood and pay for it......while the armchair intellectuals come up with cooked data and unverified theories??... |
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Teenmaar:
jobs, it projects meh. Utterly predictable and boring stuff 
there are more exciting stories in communist china |
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Discover...
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coal usage....pollution....and health factors and costs ani line of argument is different.
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I know, but I gave this example when you said I made up something to look neutral. I was saying there are nut cases/extremists on both sides. |
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Andhravodu:
endi very different? how ani cheppu
9 out of 10 IT projects are moved to Ukrain from my company. Russian demand for our product increased since last year. Owner desperately waiting for ease of sanctions. There was no orders from that part in last 6-7 years. Sudden gaa unexpected increase. It's going to be different . Should start teaching kids Russian |
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Discoveringself:thats why, instead of central planning..........let the economy decide it.....believe me, if there is a better and cheaper choice, ppl will go with it.......ee mandated policies.....with poor ppl hurting...while other countries get away with it.......not sure how it all works......
Even developing countries like India have subsidies if source is renewables, poor people in US hurting, rich people in India enjoying getting benefitsaa kikiki |
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Teenmaar:Russia part of the world
endi very different? how ani cheppu |
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Andhravodu:
predictable kani country ye ledu
Right now I would say Russia part of the world very different and don't know where they end |
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Discoveringself:how does it justify climate change as science??
I mean attributing exactly to human activity.....
coal usage....pollution....and health factors and costs ani line of argument is different........ikkada disco about these theories floating around and decisions and agreements based on those theories..... |
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Gsn1:Then what about the pollution and related COSTS that are undeniably related to COAL based industries? You are not addressing that.
thats why, instead of central planning..........let the economy decide it.....believe me, if there is a better and cheaper choice, ppl will go with it.......ee mandated policies.....with poor ppl hurting...while other countries get away with it.......not sure how it all works......
and that too based on...........global warming exact science.......and goals of 0.2 degree celsius reduction.........
bottomline, coal might have problems.....how does it justify climate change as science??.......and manipulated data to advance theories?.....and some ppl and some countries taking hit??..... |
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Jai_ycp:
What govt is doing is Burden coal by regulations and provide incentives to renewable energies. Trump is doing is remove regulations. That's it.
Let the public decide of what they need
What public need is energy, they dont care about the source, if govt also wont care about source they will only get coal, and all renewable companies has to close their shops, sarigga 5 years into the future kooda choodaleni vaadu president kikiki |
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Andhravodu:
When panels are being made in china. They are getting break even and govt still provide subsidy.
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the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
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Teenmaar: US became very predictable no kick
what country gives kick to you and how?
predictable kani country ye ledu |
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Gsn1:When there is a better ALTERNATIVE, then why NOT adopt it?
It won't arrive in the time Trump plans to grow economy
Jai_ycp:After subsidizing billions of dollars, renewable energy is still not even making break even
Solar ki Musk company recently crossed it. kotta panels chesaru which absorption/generation rates are cost effective |
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Pollution abortion immigration religion union compassion
Be careful with the words ending with on. They are normal life but depending on time and place political parties borrow them and nurture for a while. Trump or Obama or some covfefe are irrelavant. US became very predictable no kick |
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Discover....
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may be.......intellectual prowess and focusing on that....ignoring the rest of the society and its importance can prove fatal........
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Then what about the pollution and related COSTS that are undeniably related to COAL based industries? You are not addressing that.
When there is a better ALTERNATIVE, then why NOT adopt it? |
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Definitely a hoax. Chinese conspiracy. Mana president cheppadu. Lock chesukondi |
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Gsn1:
A bird in Hand is better than 2 in bush. Tech jobs? Where? How? After subsidizing billions of dollars, renewable energy is still not even making break even.
What govt is doing is Burden coal by regulations and provide incentives to renewable energies. Trump is doing is remove regulations. That's it.
Let the public decide of what they need
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
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Andhravodu:4%
He said It's actually 3, 4 , 9 12%. Growth, Facts lock it |
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Gsn1:US is leader for a REASON. They think way ahead of times (than others) and come up with path breaking/life changing inventions and change the world in the process.
may be.......intellectual prowess and focusing on that....ignoring the rest of the society and its importance can prove fatal........
may be how India fell to barbarians and others..........mana creativity mana poetic talents mana artistic abilities anukuntaa..........other capabilities ni vadulukuntey 1000 yrs looting and pillaging ki taavunichchindi......
body lo head and torso ki importance...doesnt mean we cant cut off the legs and hands........society the same way too......let those great greenery intellectuals come up with solutions that are cheaper and better...........than asking others to sacrifice..........and not able to compete with other countries........ |
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Gsn1:how long you want to sustain COAL based jobs
coal jobs sustain ani kaadule. Trump speech lo cheppindi, he is expecting economy to grow by 3-4%, and right now renewables meeda depend aite, it supports upto a 1% economical growth, 3-4% kavali ante, you have to depend on all forms of energy annadu |
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it ain't as simple as that.......its about not being able to compete and losing ground..........while one is supposed to stop, others can still continue to use coal.......and the agreement is non-binding........
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US is leader for a REASON. They think way ahead of times (than others) and come up with path breaking/life changing inventions and change the world in the process.
Regarding pain to some people, yes, it is real and while I don't personally can never feel their pain, government can alleviate their pain by retraining them in the new technologies and finding them jobs once they are ready with higher paying job.
On the other hand, how long you want to sustain COAL based jobs? What about the problems these polluting industries causing to the health of their communities and what about the raising health care cost for that community people and what about cleaning up the water resources which gets polluted by this coal etc?
There are NO EASY answers, but go through the short term pains for long term gains. Unfortunately some people are going to suffer. |
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