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Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2017 - 11:45 am:       


Twotown:




:-) not looking for everything in one person - have 15 openings anni kalipi cover cheyyali

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Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2017 - 09:24 am:       

inni ravala mee kada Jaab ki on top malla GC okati ... nenu disqualified ..
maa laga eh hon bhe plus tool lo drag and drop jaabs vuntene thread veyyandi .. yes meeru maa manobhavalu/badhalu debba teesaaru...:-(
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2017 - 06:20 am:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

What is a Controller in MVC Architecture ani adigithey kondaru cheppaleru.
Poni question maree vague gaa vundi.. what makes a Java Class, a C# Structure etc etc, irrespective of language and technology and framework, what makes a particular component a Controller ani adigithey koodaa saringaa idea vundadu..
meeku intha 2-3 internships chesi, 6 to 9 months lo Prod Bugs fix chesi Prod loki push cheyagaligina Freshers yekkada dorukuthunnaru?




Did we not all get hired as freshers? anyway - when hiring a fresher, the criteria is usually different. As I fresher, when i attended the interview, i told the guy hiring me(also the CTO), I have zero knowledge about MS technologies - I was primarily a linux/unix guy with advanced C/C++/Java skills although never worked in an firm before.

CTO looked at my resume - come over for a couple of months, take a look at the work we are doing, if you like what you are doing - continue. In the first two months, I succesfully re-engineered a call center application with legacy Nortel call center application, which was causing a bottle neck for handling calls. Nortel was charging exorbitant amounts to make updates to the system. And I never looked back, was with the firm for 12 years.

Typically - when hiring an intern/fresher you are hiring for the skill, not implementing/defining processes. Some may lack an understanding of architectural patterns, but can surprise with skill and enthusiasm.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 10:07 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:




I guess it depends on the screening process /university/internships. Current team lo last 2 years lo 5 college hires - okallani minchinavallu okallu ...Antavaraku enduku ma abbayi just graduated ... he has had excellent internships all 3 summers - they are coming out extremely well prepared to hit the road running ...our last year interns did prod fixes and new features - and we are hiring a couple of them :-)

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 09:44 pm:       


Annavaram:




me email address ivvandi.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 09:37 pm:       


Anand_n:

ikkada freshers come with 2-3 internships - which is 6-9 months real world work experience ...



What is a Controller in MVC Architecture ani adigithey kondaru cheppaleru.
Poni question maree vague gaa vundi.. what makes a Java Class, a C# Structure etc etc, irrespective of language and technology and framework, what makes a particular component a Controller ani adigithey koodaa saringaa idea vundadu..
meeku intha 2-3 internships chesi, 6 to 9 months lo Prod Bugs fix chesi Prod loki push cheyagaligina Freshers yekkada dorukuthunnaru?

Bithiri_bathi:

Your question how would a fresher deal with branching strategy



My intention, the branching strategy was an analogy. Irrespective of ability to solve complex Programming Challenge Questions on White-boarding, or knowledge of advanced programming paradigms like Image Processing etc etc, Self-Efficient and Self-Sufficient with very very little help kinds candidates elaa gurthu padathaaru asalu?
Typically, every interview, every role that I have interviewed for, every person that I had spoken to, everybody's requirement was only one thing for evaluating a right candidate.
Listen to me, ask me the right questions, seek the right help from others if need be, and deliver a working Prod Ready functionality in the next half-hour.
Andariki kaavaali, yevvadu dorakadu, compromise ayyi yevado talaki maasinodini hire cheskuni train cheskuntaam..
Meeku same requirement ayithe, Amazing Fresher kante so-so experienced mid-level Dev ye better kada?
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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 05:54 pm:       


Anand_n:

What are you all working on ? Thanks for the inputs though !




We build a Centralized Management Solution for ADC (load balancers) infrastructure...Our product is packaged as Virtual Appliance which can run on ESXi, KVM and AWS.

Actual Management solution is built using Python (Micro Services) and legacy c/c++ backend, Django, UI ki React and Command line interfaces ki Python

All our build management code is writtent in Python too

Recently Analytics feature ship chesamu...first version using Splunk and built custom UI on top of Splunk...next version lo ELK Stack use chesi Analytics build chesthunnamu

Since Splunk is expensive
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 05:43 pm:       


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Desam lo freshers ki ikkada fresher ki chala diff untundi ...ikkada freshers come with 2-3 internships - which is 6-9 months real world work experience ... they have most times moved their code into production or worked on prod fixes before they start here ...if you are using the skills they have the ramp up time is less than 3 months ... new skills ayite time padutundi !

Annavaram:



Link PM cheyyandi please of the firm :-)

Bithiri_bathi:



What are you all working on ? Thanks for the inputs though !

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 05:09 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

I don't think I have been able to put my point across properly.
But, my quest for answers will continue, on quora, most likely.




Your question how would a fresher deal with branching strategy and how well he can various repos and branches?

My answer is I don't care about the process (he can learn)

Amazing freshers antey...good at algorithms, confident in one programming language at least (my team works extensively works on python, all of my team members learned python after joining the team, previously they were all experts in c/c++/java)

so willing to learn :-)
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 05:07 pm:       


Anand_n:

Sharp college hires ni train chesukovatam best ani proceed avutunna if I can't find experienced




this is the only viable option
no was you can find fullstack devs with gc or us citizen
i have been using a training firm out of DC who train full stack and automation QA guys , they hire college grads with cs degrees who are us citizens and by the time they are done with their bootcamps they are as good as anyone with 2.5 yrs of exp in real time, they have been working out pretty well so far, you need to pay them a fee though
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 04:59 pm:       


Bithiri_bathi:




Anand_n:



I don't think I have been able to put my point across properly.
But, my quest for answers will continue, on quora, most likely.
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I told you to let it go!!"
- The Budhha.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 03:53 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

git fork, git clone, git commit, git merge/push/rebase ivey enduku ayithayi saar? Typical Release plan lo 3 weeks ki branch ready ayithaa vunte, multiple branches madhyanna commits coordinate seyatam gatraa mari... private contributions lo iyanni yekkada cover ayithayi?




When I am hiring I don't care which source code management tool the person knows...because I treat this as a minor part of the actual job

if you don't where and how to commit my team is ready to help them out...setting a proper process on bug branching/CI and which branch to commit is all you need

Amazing fresher's are the ones who are good at programming (any language) and willing to learn (sounds cliched) but this worked well in the past
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 03:50 pm:       


Machomegastar:




San Antonio

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 03:49 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:




It's less of a cost thing than availability and time in role .. and the college hires we pick up are really good, come with 2 plus internships and as you said their learning ability is also strong ..

training cost is an investment for the future..retention for us is really good so not worried about losing too many people after training ..

Experienced folks dorikite awesome but plan B is junior devs... and I do not need all these skills in one person - as long as we can mix and match to cover the stack and they are willing to learn to move towards full stack :-)

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 03:30 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

Contributing to private projects on github ante.. git fork, git clone, git commit, git merge/push/rebase ivey enduku ayithayi saar? Typical Release plan lo 3 weeks ki branch ready ayithaa vunte, multiple branches madhyanna commits coordinate seyatam gatraa mari... private contributions lo iyanni yekkada cover ayithayi?
What is the evaluation criteria to hire 'amazing freshers'?


not relevant to thread topic...my company is migrating to GITLAB from central repository. any documentation or training videos on git merge/push etc betweem multiple brances?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 03:19 pm:       


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Nenu sponsor cheyya lenu anadam okay kaani neeku immigration hazzles untayi anduke reject chesthunna ante discrimination avuthadi




It's not discrimination. friend company lo H4 ead meeda oka candidate vaste, Immigration dept told we can't hire as it's dependent on H1 holder visa status
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 03:17 pm:       


Bithiri_bathi:

these are minor things when I recruit someone...most of the college grads have experienced working with git and contributing to private projects on git hub

freshers also have a zeal to learn and the amount they churn during their first few years is amazing



ye maata ki aa maata.
Freshers last 10 years are the luckiest lot aney cheppali.
between 2000 and 2007, owing to the 9/11 incident.. Software Programming was a Clerical job in WITCH Companies in India. WITCH companies ki minchi hiring options levv, DVCS git ledu, private-contributions levu, irrespective of who the employer is, every Software Programmer's job was a dead-end. Resource Allocation was ad-hoc. Ye skills choosi Mainframes lo vesthaaru ardham ayyedi kaadu. One of my batch-mates back-then was very interested and very good at SQL and PL/SQL. 3 months bench meeda petti, yedo intranet JS coding team lo padesaaru. Nenu first 1 year full on bench.

Contributing to private projects on github ante.. git fork, git clone, git commit, git merge/push/rebase ivey enduku ayithayi saar? Typical Release plan lo 3 weeks ki branch ready ayithaa vunte, multiple branches madhyanna commits coordinate seyatam gatraa mari... private contributions lo iyanni yekkada cover ayithayi?
What is the evaluation criteria to hire 'amazing freshers'?
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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 03:05 pm:       


Anand_n:




place entandi!!
New_user:
Fights / dances kosam, cinema ela unna, oka sari chudali anukune oka set of audience Chiranjeevi ki matrame unnaru. TFI lo highest success ratio Chiru ke untundi.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 03:01 pm:       


Andhravodu:

All the above are temporary stages. Only LPR and above is free of immigration hassles




Idi requirement lo pedithe bokka lo estaru. Nenu sponsor cheyya lenu anadam okay kaani neeku immigration hazzles untayi anduke reject chesthunna ante discrimination avuthadi
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 02:48 pm:       


Anand_n:

Sharp college hires ni train chesukovatam best ani proceed avutunna if I can't find experienced




I am not sure if you know about this site https://news.ycombinator.com/

Post your requirements here and you will find plenty of GC/USCs who have good amount of experience with full stack experience
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 02:45 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

minimizing check-in, commit, merge mistakes on DVCS like git etc.




these are minor things when I recruit someone...most of the college grads have experienced working with git and contributing to private projects on git hub

freshers also have a zeal to learn and the amount they churn during their first few years is amazing
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 02:44 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:




nee post chusaka oka joda thagali ani pinchindi

 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 02:42 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:


companies look at it differently. For them, a fresher is always cheaper. Also you can train a fresher but you can't train an experienced guy. They're set in their ways

inka oka 30-35 years old manager unte, they don't hire seniors at all. it's tortute for both senior and young
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 02:36 pm:       


Anand_n:

Sharp college hires ni train chesukovatam best ani proceed avutunna if I can't find experienced



What is the Cost Advantage split?
Meeku kaavaalsina exact tech-stack skills toh experienced dorakatam konchem kashtame agreed.
Fresher comes for less cost, add skill-set training cost, add actual work-experience cost as well, because unlike a seasoned experienced candidate freshers need to be taught the correct way of using and minimizing check-in, commit, merge mistakes on DVCS like git etc.
Toward the end, they'll quit for a 40% hike and RSUs causing an untimely disruption. Add this disruption cost as well.
A seasoned experienced developer with 0 knowledge of that skill-set or tech-stack, add training cost, no cost for work-experience training unlike a fresher, and so long pay is decent, disruptions are almost nil owing to family and settling down and stability etc.

Naaku React raadu, but beginning lo naaku Java koodaa raadu.. yevvadu nerpaledu.. my first job Infosys Training lo koodaa naadi Java batch kaadu... Ivvala yelagola bandi nettukosthunna. Am a seasoned developer, none of your tech-stack jargons will be on my resume, but my learning-skills have been steeply growing all along this time.

What is your criteria to hire candidates?
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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 02:03 pm:       


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##JAI-YCP




the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
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the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 01:57 pm:       


Bithiri_bathi:




Sharp college hires ni train chesukovatam best ani proceed avutunna if I can't find experienced :-)

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 01:24 pm:       


Andhravodu:

jaijagan andariki cheppadu nerchukondi ani. starting urgently now...




Fresher with react experience...108k ki hire chesukunnanu...also company sponsored his H1B...H1B stamping ayyindhi and company pani meedha UK pampinchamu


return raaganey 2-weeks notice ichadu...I got 150k offer with 100k worth of RSUs ani

emi chesthamu...he was very good though
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 01:20 pm:       


Bithiri_bathi:

he worked for one year and got another job with 40% hike


jaijagan andariki cheppadu nerchukondi ani. starting urgently now...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 01:16 pm:       

React Developers are hot commodity now...I had a hard time hiring them in Bay Area...finally found one guy, sponsored his H1B...he worked for one year and got another job with 40% hike in his salary and left my team
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 01:10 pm:       


Anand_n:

Only GC/ Citizens




 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 01:06 pm:       


Wellsfargo:



H4 EAD, 485 EAD and opt EAD kooda okay kada..


nope, they are not the same, except maybe 485 EAD

All the above are temporary stages. Only LPR and above is free of immigration hassles
 

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Anand_n:

Official requirements lawyers review chestaru so all those bases will be covered basic ga they should have employment eligibility - no visa processing..,




H4 EAD, 485 EAD and opt EAD kooda okay kada..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 12:48 pm:       


King:




Actually it's a 2 part thing .. legal risk tagginchukotaniki ma vallu last year spring e start chesaru ee process - ee year end deadline for 1 set
then this year h1b issues to dependency risk tagginchukotaniki taking it further

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 12:41 pm:       


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Official requirements lawyers review chestaru so all those bases will be covered :-) basic ga they should have employment eligibility - no visa processing..,

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Idi official requirements lo untada. ala cheste discrimination avvada unless it is mandated by the job to have some security clearances


it's a work permit issue, there is no discrimination on national origin
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 12:37 pm:       


Wellsfargo:

Place enti. GC/citizens ani peduthunnaru kada. Idi official requirements lo untada. ala cheste discrimination avvada unless it is mandated by the job to have some security clearances. Yeah we don't sponsor H1 ani kaani need to have atleast 6 months of work permit ani kaani pettali kada. H4/AOS EADs tho problem enti.




I am asking this from an employer point of view as I am looking to hire a few people. started to figure out the logistics.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 12:36 pm:       


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hello Anandji... If your company which heavily relies on service industry is changing its policy, then the tide is really changing.
##JAI-YCP #MAGA
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 12:35 pm:       


Anand_n:

Hiring mid level developers in Contract to hire /FTE positions ... Only GC/ Citizens..great company , great benefits
Interest unte PM cheyyandi .. mana presi punyama boledu positions contractor nundi fte ki marutunnayi ...




Place enti. GC/citizens ani peduthunnaru kada. Idi official requirements lo untada. ala cheste discrimination avvada unless it is mandated by the job to have some security clearances. Yeah we don't sponsor H1 ani kaani need to have atleast 6 months of work permit ani kaani pettali kada. H4/AOS EADs tho problem enti.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 12:23 pm:       


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Lol naku enduku happy - I want co-located teams - does not matter contractor/fte ...
But ippudu aa contractor option gone ...

Mrhyd,
Na team ki onsite kavali ...maybe ikkada a year or two chesaka they can move remote but need the incubation time for teaming to happen

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 12:23 pm:       


Anand_n:

mana presi punyama boledu positions contractor nundi fte ki marutunnayi ...




i saw that trend. why exactly?

past lo finding fte positions was a rare thing in dice. now c2c contractor positions are like 1%
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 12:18 pm:       


Anand_n:

mana presi punyama boledu positions contractor nundi fte ki marutunnayi ...


meeku happy eega...
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
Power of Kamma Brahminism ( not literal caste but ideology) is Baahubali -OT
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 12:17 pm:       


Anand_n:

Hiring mid level developers in Contract to hire /FTE positions ... Only GC/ Citizens..great company , great benefits :-)


Work from home / remote access option vunte cheppandi mana DB nundi oka dozen resumes will hit your InBox in 10 mins
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 - 12:10 pm:       

Hiring mid level developers in Contract to hire /FTE positions ... Only GC/ Citizens..great company , great benefits :-)
Interest unte PM cheyyandi .. :-) mana presi punyama boledu positions contractor nundi fte ki marutunnayi ...

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim

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