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Jai_ycp
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 05:42 pm:       


Rocketk2:

but there is a law that gives him power to ensure there is a basis for an EO. Is this fact based or fiction based ??? As simple as that Remember I was saying this from day one




it does not matter. once they land on us soil, they will have some rights hence Guantanamo bay is off shore. president can restrict entry as per 8 U.S. Code § 1182. it states

"Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate"


Rocketk2:

What is the basis for belief that a guy will ill intent is about to get in... adhi establish chesthe.. EO is on!! Chusaruu ga due process follow
Kakapothe ilanti restraing orders ye vuntayyi!! At some point president has to learn constitution !



first of all he does not have right to sue that in us courts ippati daka. meeru rule smarchesaru. ala establish ceyyalekhe kadha suspects ni bay lo pedutunnaru. constitution gave him sweeping powers. judges should learn the law. TRO for domestic issues is fine but for aliens entry is far reaching.


Rocketk2:

no they cannot. The restraining order is to halt presidents EO , not visa validation at POE and consulate



why cant they follow same approach. you got rejected at POE, file a case and say you and the beneficiary (university, employer) gets undue hardsip, gets a TRO and enter united states. now you understand the magnitude of error the judge did.

Rocketk2:

Thank god for checks and balances



a federal judge whose juridistiction is western washington state applies a law to entire country. thats judicial overeach and needs to be informed. forts of all, these cases hsould be held in ICE courts.

Rocketk2:

judge is saying this issue needs more discussion to decide it is right or wrong.



andukani TRO istaru. what if one of them is a tellal. i am saying giving TRO for domestic issues is fine but TRO for national security is ridiculous.he should side on the err of government. entry of an alien deemed s ecurity risk would d irreparable damage.
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 04:59 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

but mana dhed dimak judge of WA did not even ask for which folks are enduring hardships and how there is merit in state saying it impacts their taxes.


this is just a TRO. Merits discussion endhuku jaruguthundhi.. judge is saying this issue needs more discussion to decide it is right or wrong.
Adhedho mundhu chesunte.. judge ki submit chesukune Vallu kadha. Mana tappu ki judge ni endhuku anatam:-)
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 04:56 pm:       

Ee jai ycp kurrodi posts on DAPA EO in courts thiyyandi.. appudu enni melikalu thirigadoo chooddam
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 04:43 pm:       

Ikkada konthamandhiki dhaarmikaanandam chaalaa ekkuvaipoyindhi
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 04:42 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

what law guarantees that you have valid visa,a you can enter country. what unconstitutional.


you are right .. no law guarantees.. but there is a law that gives him power to ensure there is a basis for an EO. Is this fact based or fiction based ??? As simple as that Remember I was saying this from day one

Jai_ycp:

Imagine a guy got visa.


ila imagine chesukunta Pothe ..entha duramaina povachu. What is the basis for belief that a guy will ill intent is about to get in... adhi establish chesthe.. EO is on!! Chusaruu ga due process follow
Kakapothe ilanti restraing orders ye vuntayyi!! At some point president has to learn constitution !

Jai_ycp:

now all people who had their visas rejected at consulates, at POE can file law suites in courts.


no they cannot. The restraining order is to halt presidents EO , not visa validation at POE and consulate

Jai_ycp:

seriously we need judicial reform in this country.


Ante yenti??? Hail Trump aa ??!! :-)
Thank god for checks and balances.. let us see how effectively they really are going to be
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 04:41 pm:       


Dma:


- I have instructed Homeland Security to check people coming into our country VERY CAREFULLY.


ee pani travel ban lekunda kooda cheyyachuga..
Happy Vizag
 

Jai_ycp
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 04:31 pm:       

to be frank, dhenikanna NY judge, VA Judge decision were more common sense. NY judge asked not to deport people till the final decision was made. Did not comment on EO or travel ban. VA judge asked list of people in the suit who can be considered undue hardships and want to review case by case.

but mana dhed dimak judge of WA did not even ask for which folks are enduring hardships and how there is merit in state saying it impacts their taxes.

idhe base chesukuni an university and/or company can sue federal government whenever any visa was rejected at consulate and/or POE
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 04:23 pm:       


Rocketk2:

It has to do with law and upholding constitution.



what law guarantees that you have valid visa,a you can enter country. what unconstitutional.

Imagine a guy got visa. later he found to have dubious connections to tellals. country bans him. jusge issues a TRO and gets him into country. who is at fault.

A TRO for anything else under the sun is ok like tpp, keystone pipelines but to give to foreign nationals entering usa is shameful act.

now all people who had their visas rejected at consulates, at POE can file law suites in courts.



annitikante most aggregious move emitante washington and other state claimed undue hardships for denying entry for folks, why did judge lifted ban on new refugees entering. How can they cause hardships to these states when they are coming first time?

seriously we need judicial reform in this country.
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 04:11 pm:       

So called protector says..

Trump defends Putin: "You think our country's so innocent?"
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 04:09 pm:       

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

wow... just wow...

- I have instructed Homeland Security to check people coming into our country VERY CAREFULLY. The courts are making the job very difficult!

- Just cannot believe a judge would put our country in such peril. If something happens blame him and court system. People pouring in. Bad!

- The judge opens up our country to potential terrorists and others that do not have our best interests at heart. Bad people are very happy!


follow link for more.

He is saying he is trying to save and anybody apposing him are country haters.
Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!!
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 04:04 pm:       


Asdf:

ante china based provider nunchi host seddam anukuntunna


china might ok...avoid Russia based.. police station Loki dongatanam ki vellinattu!!
 

Rocketk2
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 04:03 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:

already enough samples vunnayi ML training ki


yup with limited grammar and words he is using and reusing on the tweets , machine can learn in half a day :-)
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 03:59 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:

ML


??


Rocketk2:

Avasaramantara risk !! :-)




ante china based provider nunchi host seddam anukuntunna :D
 

Rocketk2
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 03:46 pm:       


Asdf:

edaina issue meeda trump kante munde trump tweet ela vuntundi aned


Great idea and I don't doubt your creativity but akkada inch away from authoritarianism!! Emi chesina Sabash ane fans!!!
Avasaramantara risk !! :-)
 

Gandhiguevara
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 03:35 pm:       


Asdf:

mee blessings tho oka website start seddam anukuntunna. edaina issue meeda trump kante munde trump tweet ela vuntundi anedi


I think its a good idea...already enough samples vunnayi ML training ki
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 03:33 pm:       


Rocketk2:

the reaction from Trump is asinine and cringeworthy.




mee blessings tho oka website start seddam anukuntunna. edaina issue meeda trump kante munde trump tweet ela vuntundi anedi :D
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 03:31 pm:       

Judge ruling has nothing to do with conservative or liberal. It has to do with law and upholding constitution. If there is strength in Trump EO it stands , if not it folds!! People who cheered ruling against obama in 2015 should not have much issue continuing the cheer :-)

That aside, the reaction from Trump is asinine and cringeworthy. It is amateur hour in whitehouse!!!
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 03:14 pm:       

Robart’s injunction is being heavily criticized for not specifying why the executive order is illegal, since the plaintiffs—the states of Washington and Minnesota—filed a lawsuit that throws the kitchen sink at the federal government, claiming 10 separate violations of the Constitution and federal law that Trump’s order allegedly violates. The sweeping court order is also being criticized for blocking all implementation of the immigration measure nationwide, instead of merely exempting Washington and Minnesota from it.

A TRO is granted only in extreme circumstances and typically lasts for only up to 10 days, to give a court time to fully consider whether to grant a preliminary injunction that would last for however many weeks or months are needed for the full judicial process to play out in court.

On Saturday the U.S. Department of Justice filed for an emergency stay of the district court’s TRO, including a request for an immediate administrative stay of the TRO while the states are filing their legal briefs in opposition to the motion.

In the early morning hours of Sunday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which has jurisdiction over Washington, denied the request for an immediate administrative stay. Contrary to media reports, the court did not deny the Justice Department’s motion for an emergency stay pending appeal.
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 03:09 pm:       

dh levels padipothannay saami... twaraga deportation start cheyandi...
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 03:07 pm:       


Bithiri_bathi:




vadi ruling batti conservative or kadha antaru. see his ruling on black lives matter case too. Kennedy has made ACA possible though he is appointed by repusbs and same with gay marriage issue
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Jai_ycp
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 03:01 pm:       

I am positive that in the end ac gaves ruling that president has the powers to do it. Only impact is some people with valid visas will get in. 2000 more refugees can get in till the issue is finalized. When security of country is at stake and issue is for non citizens, courts should side on the err of government.

I hope trump will initiate a judicial reform where in such cases should be handled by immigration judges in future.
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Bithiri_bathi
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 03:00 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

An activist liberal judge screwed whole immigration future for 2 minutes of fame.




idhi alternative fact aa..veedu conservative and appointed by GW Bush (99-0)

neeku kavalsina facts nuvvu cheppyi

 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 02:54 pm:       

Baseless tirade

I) what Judge issued was TRO - temporary restraining order. It's not even preliminary injunction. There are 3 different levels. TRO expires in 10 days itself and is issued in emergency. Injunction is issues till final ruling is given. Final ruling stays forever.

2) judge gave TRO. Next court refused to stay ban on TRO and wanted full briefings by Monday evening/ at which point it will decide outcome.

Judge who gave this order supports black lives matter. What he did wrong was he did not even cite what part is unconstitutional. Very ridiculous way and extended his order to whole country when only 2 states are included in suit.

Following are the issues in his ruling
A) states said they are enduring undue hardship from EO and asked for temporary relief till a final determination is made. He agreed with them but provided relief for all other states. Who asked him for that? Who represented them?

B) if he included which section of constitution the EO obstructs, there is very chance that it's gets overturned by next court if judge doesn't not believe enough evidence is there. So he kept vague so that the high courts have to have full briefing before making a decision thus making his stay longer

Monday evening appalette court will say about it.

1) what if another federal judge says the ban stays on? Who will resolve the impasse?
2) as per constitution And law passed, the ability to refuse entry for non citizens is given to president for any or no reason. This ruling gives leeway for so many law suits I further

1) if you were denied enters at Poe, can your lawyer file in court that you will have undue hardship because of this action and judge grants TRO, he can get in.

Then can apply for refusal of visa too.

An activist liberal judge screwed whole immigration future for 2 minutes of fame.
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 02:39 pm:       


Xxx:

4 rep 4 dem nominated and 5 th will be rep


evaru nominate chesina party vallaki blind ga support cheyyaru any sane judge.. abortion, LGBT meeda religious line lo veltaremo gani overall ga they will go with the constitution and how they interpret it..
You are not born a winner. Nor are you born a loser. You are born a chooser. Choose to win.
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 02:36 pm:       


Airliner:

ee item gadiki bhajana




4 rep 4 dem nominated and 5 th will be rep
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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 02:33 pm:       


Airliner:

republican nominated judges ye chepputho kodatannaru akkada.. it could be even 6-2 .. ee item gadiki bhajana chese batch kadu supreme court judges..


exactly...aaa so-called judge was appointed by Bush
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 02:32 pm:       


Saint:

most likely akkada kooda 4-4


republican nominated judges ye chepputho kodatannaru akkada.. it could be even 6-2 .. ee item gadiki bhajana chese batch kadu supreme court judges..
You are not born a winner. Nor are you born a loser. You are born a chooser. Choose to win.
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 01:46 pm:       

Repu supreme court lo maavolle vostaaru, appudu chepthaa. Kaaboye CM ni touch chestunnaaru, khabaDdhaar!!!


 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 11:22 am:       

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/04/us/politics/visa-ban-t rump-judge-james-robart.html?_r=0&referer=
 

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Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 11:20 am:       

Appeals Court Rejects Request to Immediately Restore Travel Ban - The New York Times
https://apple.news/AjLoRan9ARTaNW_9_1WoQ9w

Inka supreme court yee dikku.. most likely akkada kooda 4-4 tho seattle court ruling upheld avuddi...sad for ppl who travelled last week

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