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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 11:45 pm:       


Jalsa:




finance APIs too much vunnai. bloomberg API(terminal subscribers) research chesi edaina seyachu meeru, if you are in similar domain.

aa madhya edo research chesaa, never started coding :-(
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 11:07 pm:       


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thanks. reactjs, yes that's the one....
 

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Jalsa:





try this. i did not try yet

http://coenraets.org/blog/2015/03/real-time-trader-desktop-w ith-react-node-js-and-socket-io/
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 10:26 pm:       

WebApps lo real time info etla choopistaru, say stock quotes for e.g.
Nodejs, AngularJS inkoti edho undali, extjs? Differences clear ga choodaali. Oka .Net app nunchi WebApps ki veldhamu ani proposal pettaanu. Need to dig deeper into the above js frameworks
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 10:19 pm:       


Vjawarrior:

link kooda nuvve ivvu bro...




w3schools lo mari abcs nerpisthadu...interview lo inka advanced adugutharu...if you have time take a look at this post

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnjavascript/comments/1oq8ns/lea rn_javascript_properly_omnibus_post_for_the/
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 10:18 pm:       


Abhysg:

nodejs di kooda own server process lantidi undi.. you don't need even a webserver.. just config a port number and run like any process..

from browser you don't feel any diff.. same like any webserver..just call http://localhost:8090/testapp/helloworld




inbuilt nodejs server is good for development and testing, in production environment generally Apache, nginx or anyother webserver fronts nginx

https://assets.digitalocean.com/articles/nodejs/node_diagram .png

having apache or nginx will take care of performance issues since nodejs is single threaded

nodejs does not take advantage of multi cpu architecture becaouse of its architecture

one has to do horizontal scaling to fully utilize multi core cpu architecture





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java ki RIP analsindena




Java might slowly die...one of the reasons companies are moving to nodejs is because one developer can work on front and backend there by eliminating pure backend jobs

there is paypal engg blog article about how they saved time and money by moving to nodejs

https://www.paypal-engineering.com/2013/11/22/node-js-at-pay pal/
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 10:17 pm:       


Vjawarrior:



Enkamma vijia ..
W3schools.com nunchi modhalu pettu ..javascript vachhu ani confident gaa
Cheppagaligithe ..jquery, angular, node bochhe etc jujubi ..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 10:14 pm:       


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Start with javaacript ..get very strong in basics ..


link kooda nuvve ivvu bro...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 10:13 pm:       


Vjawarrior:



Start with javaacript ..get very strong in basics ..
Tarvta mataduthaa mightavi ..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 10:11 pm:       


Twotown:


Em chestharu meeru .. code lekapothe inkem vuntaadi ..


tick lu ettukuntoo batukutunnaa...yes i feel lost now
ekkada start avvali nenu....i want to develop state of the art website (front end/back end) baaga telavali....programmming , cloud tech raavalante em cheyyali
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 10:03 pm:       


Vjawarrior:

.i donno how to code



Em chestharu meeru .. code lekapothe inkem vuntaadi ..
Documents frefaring ? adi chesthe antha antha billing aa..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 09:58 pm:       


Vjawarrior:




Top Down approach is better

we need to decide where we want to go in future
where each of the below is used in Big Ragnizations and wheere you want to focus and have passion

- Big Data Analytics / Machine Learning Programming
- Cloud Application Architect ( Designing applications for AWS, Azure, Docker etc)
- Cloud Infra Admin (IaaS, SaaS, PaaS Admin and setup)
- Devops Admin / Development

Choose one area, start learning tools, architecture, practices associated with it. Most important specific areas of LOB where they are used

Bottom up approach kooda cheyochu, depends on your comfort

SAP chestunnaruga, maaku asalu SAP touch ledu. mari memu emavvali ? lol
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 09:27 pm:       

We use Node and Nginix combo... Works well.
#MadiMaggavale.... #MeediKoodaMaggavale......
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 09:26 pm:       


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Ikka 1-2 work chestunnollaki tappa, rest memantha novices in this topic of AWS lambda - serverless service architecture, where you can code and upload in AWS Lambda environment, and it will take care of assigning necessary resources and required connections to execute. we need to pay the CPU, memory , storage resources as per the use not without even using, just to stay


i feel asahmed of myself bro/....sap lo stuck aipoi asalu bayata em jarugutundo kooda teliyatledu naaku...i donno how to code...just debug cheyyagalanu...service architecture gurinchi kooda idea ledu naaku...basics ela telusukovali nenu
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 09:18 pm:       


Vjawarrior:




Antha ledu Bhayya, any language including python, java, C#, node JS can be used. Another Technical paradigm ante

Ikka 1-2 work chestunnollaki tappa, rest memantha novices in this topic of AWS lambda - serverless service architecture, where you can code and upload in AWS Lambda environment, and it will take care of assigning necessary resources and required connections to execute. we need to pay the CPU, memory , storage resources as per the use not without even using, just to stay
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 09:13 pm:       

okka mukka ardham kaavatledu...i dont know java...am i gone....naakesinattenaa nenu?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 09:10 pm:       

As per the tech specs of AWS Lambda

- inboud network is blocked along with port 25
- only outbound network traffic is allowed
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 09:00 pm:       


Emc2:

you need a service to interact




service side full fledged ga vunna saripothundi kada annai ?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 08:55 pm:       


Xxx:




you need a service to interact, node and angular are good for front end and single page applications

complete segregation from back end
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 08:46 pm:       


Abhysg:

java ki RIP analsindena


ellison gadi paityam valla kooda debba tagilindi

Brendan Eich tuuu maha purush hai
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 08:46 pm:       


Abhysg:



Google gadi v6 engine adi

Default plus java 7 onwards they are shipping with default server
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 08:44 pm:       

anyway... JavaScript ki inta power untundi ani ennadoo anukoledu.. thokkalo javascript emundi.. just front end lo data enter sesada leda ani validate seyyadanike kada anukonevanni.. extjs ochinappati nundi only UI ye kada anukonna.. ipudu motham ade...inka em migalledu...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 08:34 pm:       


Xxx:



Looks like end of days for java , like c/c++ , and new technology may be easy to learn .




tutorial soosi few practice sessions ki naaku sound ledu.. java ki RIP analsindena.. ani.. felt bad.. 12+years food pettindi..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 08:32 pm:       


Emc2:

just node/angular and html5 deploy in web server use rest services to communicate to back end




based on few examples I practiced..

nodejs di kooda own server process lantidi undi.. you don't need even a webserver.. just config a port number and run like any process..

from browser you don't feel any diff.. same like any webserver..just call http://localhost:8090/testapp/helloworld

beginners ki ila okay anukonna.. but realtime lo ela build chestar.. e webserver lo deploy chestar.. can it work on any machine? ani kanukkodaniki soostunna..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 08:29 pm:       


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Don't know if java is needed , trying to understand. As I was lazy before , stuck with jee, did not learn any,

With cost cutting , scared ow
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 08:27 pm:       


Asdf:




API to convert code aanaru gaa, bread and butter to many till now
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Xxx:

Looks like end of days for java




rest service consume chestaavu. but build cheyataniki kaavali ga.

again, rest can be developed in non-java too.
 

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Emc2:

use rest services to communicate to back end




this works only when the entire middle layer is migrated to rest kada. startups ki easy, existing companies lo full migration going on?

this means mvc frameworks dont matter anymore? node or angular on Frontend, and rest service(core java)
 

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Emc2:




Looks like end of days for java , like c/c++ , and new technology may be easy to learn .
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Abhysg:




fro node or angular you don't need any app servers or jsp java

just node/angular and html5 deploy in web server use rest services to communicate to back end
 

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No need of any tomcat/jboss , based on what I understand , looks like no need of java server side, looks like a destructive technology,
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 08:20 pm:       


Abhysg:




node or angular can deployed in any web servers

node js ni node lite server lo deploy chesukovachu or any web server

same with angular
 

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Emc2:


nee question ardham ayithe jagan tho buggal pisikinchukunta




ante.. ipudu java lo webapp raste manam tomcat/jboss ilanti server lo deploy seskontam.. nodejs lo raste emanna unda..? idi server software ayite.. OS/machine kooda emanna prefferred unnaya..?

last time remembered we deployed EAR on to solaris spark meeda weblogic.. intha active ga malla epudoo nenu server config or web apps lo work seyyaled.. so nodejs ela work avuddi ani kanukkontunna.. oka webapp rasinaka.. can you run it anywhere..? or you need specific OS/machine..? for building/deployment ki em tools vadatar..?
 

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Emc2:

nee question ardham ayithe jagan tho buggal pisikinchukunta




monna incident appati nunchi baaga manasu padinatlunnav /run
 

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Abhysg:




nee question ardham ayithe jagan tho buggal pisikinchukunta

 

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Abhysg:




http://docs.aws.amazon.com/lambda/latest/dg/programming-mode l.html
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 07:59 pm:       

ipudu nodejs with nosql/mongodb lantivi build cheste e OS/server lo deploy seskovachu..? nodejs itself server la run avuddi kada.. building/deployment ela manage seyyadam..?
 

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Optionsgenius:

platypus bro iam trying to get into aws intws dagra konchem help chestara pls give ur email id.




I don't know much about AWS andi. My line of work is different. There are probably others on the board who can help you. I am more into Azure. I keep myself updated on AWS at a very high level because I need to know what my competition is doing :-) That's pretty much it.

Overall gaa nenu experience chesindi... companies tend to get into cloud at the bottom-most layer - IaaS but then to optimize the costs, they move up the pyramid.

Serverless is something everyone is excited about. Netflix is moving to a serverless architecture for its user facing website. (Content is still on Cassandra on EC2 infra). Netflix has long since switched off the lights in its own datacenter. They don't own a single physical server! Everything's on EC2.

Here are a few examples

Fantasy Movie web site: 29,918 page views in July of 2016 for an audience of 5,385 unique users cost $0.21 in AWS charges.
https://fmlnerd.com/2016/08/16/30k-page-views-for-0-21-a-ser verless-story

Cloud Guru computer training video processing: Web and Mobile traffic; video delivery for under $4 a month https://read.acloud.guru/why-serverless-with-aws-is-a-game-c hanger-3cb37e25f638#.yfrktfx2l

Nordstrom; part of commerce process and load testing. Pushing 100s of events for less than $2 https://github.com/Nordstrom/artillery-lambda

https://parall.ax Social Campaign manager reducing monthly cost from $24K to few dollars https://serverlesscode.com/post/david-guetta-online-recordin g-with-lambda

Don't write off Serverless as yet another Y2K. It is not a passing cloud (sic) :-)

If you want to understand Serverless (not the details but the concept), do read the Martin Fowler article: http://martinfowler.com/articles/serverless.html


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platy , looks like theseare specific to serverless services, run continuously , access data from a source or another external service to accomplish some business support functions. it is not a platform that provide services which are triggered from external. it s supplemental to AWS SaaS , is this correct ?




Yes, these are serverless services of course. If you are planning to design an application using microservices (and in turn nanoservices), you can either use a managed infra layer such as Azure Service Fabric - especially if you are into stateful as well as stateless, but if you really work on your architecture and can design it as a set of loosely coupled fairly independent microservices, you can use a serverless paradigm instead of managed infra - Azure Functions or AWS Lambda or Google Cloud Functions.

On the topic of SaaS, these are sometimes used to extend capabilities of SaaS offerings as well.

Having said that, it is still in nascent phase. Saraina terminology vaadi if you can talk for a minute, (like I just did in this post) you can go places :D
 

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platypus bro iam trying to get into aws intws dagra konchem help chestara pls give ur email id.
 

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Mahiz:

any location bro .. nothing in specific



Send me your resume and contact info to ReachMe24x7@GMail.Com
 

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Jeffa:




any location bro .. nothing in specific
 

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platy , looks like theseare specific to serverless services, run continuously , access data from a source or another external service to accomplish some business support functions. it is not a platform that provide services which are triggered from external.
it s supplemental to AWS SaaS , is this correct ?
 

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Mahiz:

AWS and Docker vachu along with Spring Boot Microservices and Apache Kafka ..
No Sql Databases : mongodb and elasticsearch

Searching for jobs in this domain ..
anyone know of such openings, please let me know



which us location that you are looking in?
 

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banam jenkins master a continuous integration ...e madhya CI gi bhaga vaaduthunnaru
 

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Banam:

jenkins




jenkins building the applications and copy it to the deployment server ne kada..
anthaka minchi emina unda
 

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Idhi nerchukontey naaku job itchesthaara?
 

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AWS and Docker vachu along with Spring Boot Microservices and Apache Kafka ..
No Sql Databases : mongodb and elasticsearch

Searching for jobs in this domain ..
anyone know of such openings, please let me know
 

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Mahiz:

acloud.guru


thank you`m
Happy Vizag
 

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nenu nerchukuntunna

acloud.guru lo manchi courses unnayi chudandi
 

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Banam:

ANSIBLE, AWS solution architect, jenkins Nerchukunna for now..


ekkada start pettav..ekkkada nerchukunnav?
Happy Vizag
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 06:33 pm:       


Vbollu:

I said the same thing,




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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 06:25 pm:       


Bithiri_bathi:

this is really useful for companies which has application and not a lot of traffic...but when you start scaling it for millions of requests per day costs add up and it's no longer cheaper compared to having your server in your private datacenter




I said the same thing, more over we need to have 3 different servers one is per dev, one is per test, one is per prod. I haven't look into the prices, so don't know how much it costs per a server to maintain.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 06:21 pm:       

Azure platform...Lambda functionalty mean product na
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 06:17 pm:       

Useing it ...integration ki bhaga use avthundhi.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 06:08 pm:       


Vbollu:

company has to pay for each server call, per suppose if a company get a daily requests of 10k, how much it costs per a company?




this is really useful for companies which has application and not a lot of traffic...but when you start scaling it for millions of requests per day costs add up and it's no longer cheaper compared to having your server in your private datacenter
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 06:06 pm:       

Thanks All..Rojuki ilanti threds okati rendu padda..we learn lot from DB..DB lo time wast chesthunna emo anukune vallki ilanti threads boost up
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 05:43 pm:       


Vbollu:

company has to pay for each server call, per suppose if a company get a daily requests of 10k, how much it costs per a company?




it costs 0.2 cents for 10K requests per day. (If you are using AWS Lambda)

(Plus storage costs and bandwidth of course. That doesn't change from IaaS to Serverless)
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 05:36 pm:       


Platypus:

So much amount? They are saving so much amount by going serverless




company has to pay for each server call, per suppose if a company get a daily requests of 10k, how much it costs per a company?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 05:33 pm:       

https://martinfowler.com/articles/serverless.html#ACoupleOfE xamples
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 05:31 pm:       


Vbollu:

for startups/learners it may work, for a decent company why they do pay so much amount?




So much amount? They are saving so much amount by going serverless
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 05:30 pm:       

for startups/learners it may work, for a decent company why they do pay so much amount?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 05:27 pm:       


Platypus:

AWS Lambda


db lo boothulu eti annai..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 05:26 pm:       


Bithiri_bathi:

not really sure if there will be savings...every 100ms compute time will be charged antunnadu...




Kontha mandhi customers 90% save chesaaru serverless ki velli.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 05:20 pm:       

For those who want to learn AWS, they should get familiarized with what each service does in plain english

I always refer to this https://www.expeditedssl.com/aws-in-plain-english

AWS Lambda - Run little self contained snippets of JS, Java or Python to do discrete tasks. Sort of a combination of a queue and execution in one. Used for storing and then executing changes to your AWS setup or responding to events in S3 or DynamoDB.

https://www.expeditedssl.com/aws-lambda-in-plain-english
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 05:18 pm:       


Last_avataar:

more appropriate "PAY PER USE" infra cost.




Looks like a granular billing solution for applications, earlier AWS was charging how much compute time your instances use...inka simplify chesi application compute usage antunnaru


not really sure if there will be savings...every 100ms compute time will be charged antunnadu...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 05:14 pm:       

We did a POC on Iron.io
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 04:37 pm:       

Q: What kind of code can run on AWS Lambda?

AWS Lambda offers an easy way to accomplish many activities in the cloud. For example, you can use AWS Lambda to build mobile back-ends that retrieve and transform data from Amazon DynamoDB, handlers that compress or transform objects as they are uploaded to Amazon S3, auditing and reporting of API calls made to any Amazon Web Service, and server-less processing of streaming data using Amazon Kinesis.

Q: What languages does AWS Lambda support?

AWS Lambda supports code written in Node.js (JavaScript), Python, Java (Java 8 compatible), and C# (using the .NET Core runtime). Your code can include existing libraries, even native ones. Please read our documentation on using Node.js, Python, Java, and C#.

Q: What restrictions apply to AWS Lambda function code?

Lambda attempts to impose as few restrictions as possible on normal language and operating system activities, but there are a few activities that are disabled: Inbound network connections are blocked by AWS Lambda, and for outbound connections only TCP/IP sockets are supported, and ptrace (debugging) system calls are restricted. TCP port 25 traffic is also restricted as an anti-spam measure.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 04:26 pm:       


Bayarea_bullodu:




Sorry bro.. email to you..
Green Bay PACKERS ||San Antonio SPURS ||Sachin Ramesh TENDULKAR
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 04:19 pm:       


Banam:



Email ki response kuda iyaledu bedaru
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 04:17 pm:       

ANSIBLE, AWS solution architect, jenkins Nerchukunna for now..

Looking into this serverless concepts...

Inka Python and Docker nerchukovali...
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 04:15 pm:       


Platypus:

Give credit where it is due. Lambda ki daridaapullo kooda ledhu Azure functions.




we are using both lambda and azure functions for various purposes, i agree lambda is way ahead, hope functions matures fast. so far MS is doing pretty decent job on the cloud. was very skeptical about it
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 04:14 pm:       

serverless anatam technical ga antha correct kaadu

more appropriate "PAY PER USE" infra cost.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 04:03 pm:       


Platypus:

Azure functions


maa Microsoft vadu savagotudutunadu idi nercukondi future ani. urgent ga tirageyali ayite.
...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 04:02 pm:       


Emc2:

good morning


 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 04:01 pm:       

good morning
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 04:01 pm:       


Twotown:

mana azure emi chesindhi annai , mase naaa




Give credit where it is due. Lambda ki daridaapullo kooda ledhu Azure functions.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 03:59 pm:       


Platypus:

AWS Lambda



mana azure emi chesindhi annai , mase naaa
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 03:55 pm:       

Ippudu cloud meedha panichestunna vaallantha ee Serverless architecture nerchukondi. Now lift and shift is your bread and butter. However, going forward, no one is going to pay 744 hours a month for servers. It is all going to be how long does the application actually run - cutting down infra costs by more than 50%

If you already know what Serverless is and can spell AWS Lambda, make sure you have enough talking points about it. You are going to be the star of 2017/2018.

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