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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 06:26 pm:       

Many people moved after election. They loose 6%. U can play cat and mouse game moving in 401k.
Dollar cost averaging lo doesn't matter. 2008-09 lo stocks down 40% but those who stayed reap rewards.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 05:02 pm:       


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401K only for HD not for me. I do direct attack
I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty and besides, the pig likes it - George Bernard Shaw
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 05:01 pm:       


Hanuman_junction:

Trump gadhu office lo vunanta varaku yee uncertainty tappadhu. This is the new reality




hmmm.. lets hope people like me wont lose anything else and whoever in the market will gain!

Sarvejana sukhinobhavanthu.. I dont know why but I did it.. hope it turns okay if not good.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:58 pm:       


Jake_ryan:




Lot of people missed Trump's post election rally thinking to buy after correction. Trump gadhu office lo vunanta varaku yee uncertainty tappadhu. This is the new reality
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:57 pm:       


Ustad:

In my case, I started 14 years ago. Spread it across 4 or 5 funds & logged in for the first time today to see how it is doing (after seeing this thread).




 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:52 pm:       


Polavaram:

401k ni antha ga marchaka pothene better


Well said. 401K is not a trading platform where one moves fund to overcome market volatility etc.

Just invest right & sit tight.

In my case, I started 4 years ago. Spread it across 4 or 5 funds & logged in for the first time today to see how it is doing (after seeing this thread).
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:52 pm:       


Polavaram:

If you move those funds to money market , you are selling and you will end up paying some charge




True.. I am more worried I might lose if markets crash.. so, ready to take the bite.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:50 pm:       


Hanuman_junction:

If at all i can predict market movements i would resign my job the very next moment. Nobody can predict whether the next 10% move will be on the upside or downside. Since you are trying to time the market remember one thing..the upside will be very swift.

If you are serious to learn please read Black Swan from Taleb. you would understand how futile is to predict.




Totally agree with you.. Only that I am being bit conservative temporarily by freezing the money.

I will keep on contributing to the market. Only thing is market fluctuations wont affect whatever I have achieved so far.

Once I feel market is stable enough I will move from money market to the market.

Yes, Not sure if I will gain with market upswing this year but at least I wont lose anything if it goes otherwise..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:48 pm:       


Jake_ryan:




thank you

Europacific funds
Intl stock funds lo nenu last 10 years nunchi regular ga contribute chesthunbanu

Inka verevi vunnayi

I will review my contribution % once in a year or two years

Currently last 3 years nunchi contributing 20% each fund aa international funds lo

If you move those funds to money market , you are selling and you will end up paying some charge
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:45 pm:       

Always stay invested, if you are long term investor

http://www.businessinsider.com/cost-of-missing-10-best-days- in-sp-500-2014-3
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:41 pm:       


Jake_ryan:




If at all i can predict market movements i would resign my job the very next moment. Nobody can predict whether the next 10% move will be on the upside or downside. Since you are trying to time the market remember one thing..the upside will be very swift.

If you are serious to learn please read Black Swan from Taleb. you would understand how futile is to predict.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:36 pm:       


Polavaram:

care to share those funds tickers?




Polavaram brother, here are the funds and their percentage of total:
American Funds EuroPacific 15%
Vanguard Total Intl Stock Index 17%
Vanguard midcap index 15%
vanguard institutional index 34%
prudential core plus bond 1 10%
vanguard total bond market index 8%

Since 2014 to till now, the plan shows ROI as 24.67%
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:31 pm:       


Jake_ryan:




Good or bad thats your decision and your money and best of luck

Chatter about market correction in feb lo ani

care to share those funds tickers?
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:29 pm:       


Pidugu:

daavuda..I hope this works out for you. you should start reading on personal finance and take decisions by yourself.. take the pain of educating yourself and believe me it is like you are earning from one more job.




Pidugu sir, none of you have an answer for my question of market volatility in the near future. I think it is going to go south at least for this year. Then, I fail to understand what happens to temporarily move the funds to money market and then next year, depending on the situation we can reinvest.. I dont see any loss with this approach..

Please do correct me.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:27 pm:       

feb lo market pade chance vundhi

Correction ki scope vundhi ani na guess
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:24 pm:       


Jake_ryan:

I just spoke to my plan manager.
He said it is not too bad to move the money (taking all the growth so far) money market and we can always move back from money market to fund market as we see market showing signs of going up - ofcourse no one can predict it. BUT, atleast we could sail through this uncertain time.
I am going with the plan.




daavuda..I hope this works out for you. you should start reading on personal finance and take decisions by yourself.. take the pain of educating yourself and believe me it is like you are earning from one more job.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:22 pm:       


Pidugu:

millions millions sampadinchi money market lo pedutunnaru


 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:19 pm:       

I just spoke to my plan manager.
He said it is not too bad to move the money (taking all the growth so far) money market and we can always move back from money market to fund market as we see market showing signs of going up - ofcourse no one can predict it. BUT, atleast we could sail through this uncertain time.
I am going with the plan.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:17 pm:       


Jalsa:




gurugale..namaskara..

pillalni enlighten cheyyandi..mana kurrollu millions millions sampadinchi money market lo pedutunnaru..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:09 pm:       


Pidugu:



annaa, namaste....manchigunnavaaney?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:05 pm:       

Rakthabhishekam jaragalsindhe !! Feb is going to be bloodbath

ala ani dont panic... just stick to ur positions
Dharmam gelavani Chota... Tappadhu Kathula veta ... thappu oppedho.. samharam tarvatha !!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:02 pm:       

why it is that cost average lo invest chesthe better than one time lumpsum investment?

ide naaku artham kaadu. you know most probably the price per unit comesdown 50 RS on average. mari enduku ila suggest sestharu andariki SIP ani ?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:01 pm:       

Even Buffet could not do 25%. so you should be ready to see it go down.

401k is a retirement tool and equities are the best way to create wealth. so stay put without trying to time the market.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 03:37 pm:       


Jake_ryan:




Market ki oka pattern vuntundhi, we have follow that sine wave, mee 401k lo vunde funds antha chettavi pick cheyyadhu mee company

Generally market november nunchi april dhaka bavuntundhi, may nunchi sept october dhaka bavundadhu idhe trend

Ika pothe 401k lo oke fund meedha eppudu petta koodadhu mottam

Large cap, small cap, mid cap and international funds vunte dhaniki contribution chese percentage marchukunta vundatame

year ki contribution % marchukunta vundatame market trend ni batti

Ika pothe retirement funds 2025 type funds vatini mange chese manager gaade choosukuntadu strategy

If you pick individual funds akkade mana knowledge panikostunfhi

Any mutual fund ferformance anedhi 10 years ferformance ni batte choostharu

Ex:

Dodgx

http://www.morningstar.com/funds/xnas/dodgx/quote.html

Ittanti funds lo emanna contrubute chestunte some times yearly ferformance bavuntundhi

Market padithe adhe range lo padutundhi

Kaani mana mango companies offer chese funds intha risky ga vundaka povacchu IMO
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 03:36 pm:       


Andhrawala:

okka saari exit aithee u dont know when to enter. adhi main problem

Nothing to worry much. Republicans are market friendly ivvala kaakpothe repu perugudhi




What I am thinking (not sure if it is feasible) is: move the existing money(I am assuming I can take this 25% growth they are showing) so far into money market and keep contributing to the stocks afresh. So the growth so far will stay as is; and new investments will take the impact of market dynamics.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 03:30 pm:       


Jake_ryan:



thats true brother but what happens to the growth we had so far? Mine is showing close to 25% growth since inception and feels bad if something happens now




that may go down to 15 or 10% and bounce again

okka saari exit aithee u dont know when to enter. adhi main problem

Nothing to worry much. Republicans are market friendly ivvala kaakpothe repu perugudhi


For now sit tight. bhayam vuntee dosnt see ur portfolio for a whilee
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 03:29 pm:       


Jake_ryan:

With all the uncertainty thats going around, is it better to move our funds in 401k to money market?
I dont think the uncertainty is going to subside any time soon.




Being less agressive is good I thinku. Trump is unpredictible, and other countries will hate US more than before. Idhi ela affect chesthundhi evariki teliyadu. Na policy - naku situation nacchhaka pothe - safety ki veltha.

Doesn't mean you pull out, but it's ok for this year to go into safer funds/ETFs. Heard Infra, Financial, Pharma are safer than Tech. 1 year tharuvatha - situation konchem clear avuthudhi.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 03:16 pm:       


Polavaram:

401k ni antha ga marchaka pothene better

Buy high
Buy low

Dollar cost averaging is mantra in 401k

Assalu stock market padinappude ekkuva contribute cheyyali if your retirement is not with in 5 years

IMO




thats true brother but what happens to the growth we had so far? Mine is showing close to 25% growth since inception and feels bad if something happens now
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 03:11 pm:       


Xxx:

asdf , jalsa , tiand ustad brother


eellandaroo eee patiki safe zone loki ellipoyi vuntaaru anukuntunna...naa laanti mango man ki bokka, the hole thappadu anukuntunna
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 03:06 pm:       

401k ni antha ga marchaka pothene better

Buy high
Buy low

Dollar cost averaging is mantra in 401k

Assalu stock market padinappude ekkuva contribute cheyyali if your retirement is not with in 5 years

IMO
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 02:43 pm:       


Sanju:

DB Stocks guru emayyaru?




asdf , jalsa , tiand ustad brother ( almost not seen ) ... calling mee kosama
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 02:41 pm:       

Trump gelisaaka oka 6 months rise ayyi crash avvuddi ani guestimate chesa....6 weeks lopey exit kottalemo...

DB Stocks guru emayyaru? assalu discussions levu DB lo
 

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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 02:38 pm:       

naadi vanguard2035 lo vundi. Inka better emanna vundaa?
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 02:29 pm:       

With all the uncertainty thats going around, is it better to move our funds in 401k to money market?

I dont think the uncertainty is going to subside any time soon.

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