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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:58 pm:       


Bharat:

free healthcare kavalante manam 10% ekkuva tax pay cheyyadaniki ready ga undali



Australia lo medicare tax ani untadi about 1-2% of gross income (but only given to PR holders or citizens) and government hospitals lo everything is free and private clinics lo you get refunds. But down side is operations kosam wait cheyyali but apart from that ERs and other regular services are free. Optionally private health insurance tesukovachu which is bit expensive but it covers major operations in private hospitals without waiting and private insurance tesukunte govt rebates kuda istundi....

This is something that US should look at
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:53 pm:       


Bharat:

https://berniesanders.com/medicareforall/


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medicare for all ki, free ga istanu ane daniki difference teliyatleda?
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:53 pm:       


Pete_sampras:



valla policies enti, dhaani effect enti anedhi separate disco......free healthcare kavalante manam 10% ekkuva tax pay cheyyadaniki ready ga undali
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:49 pm:       


Andhravodu:

Bernie Sanders annee free ga istanu ani ekkada cheppado choopistava?



https://berniesanders.com/medicareforall/
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:49 pm:       


Bharat:

I don't know. But if tries to implement any kind of universal healthcare, Congress will not allow it....basic gaa America lo free healthcare kavalante okka party tho ayye pani kaadhu....idhariki agreement kudarali.....lekapothe Obamacare laanti flawed policies vasthayi



So what are you saying?? do you mean Trump will repeal it and won't come up with a new one?? but do you know this will impact red states more than blue states??
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:47 pm:       


Pete_sampras:

and what is Trump's proposal? have you seen them?



I don't know. But if tries to implement any kind of universal healthcare, Congress will not allow it....basic gaa America lo free healthcare kavalante okka party tho ayye pani kaadhu....idhariki agreement kudarali.....lekapothe Obamacare laanti flawed policies vasthayi
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:44 pm:       


Bharat:

If Trump wins now, it will be repealed. That is my whole point. Whatever people want will happen.



And what people want?? and what is Trump's proposal? have you seen them??
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:44 pm:       


Bharat:

Bernie Sanders...demmocrats


Bernie Sanders annee free ga istanu ani ekkada cheppado choopistava?

Verribagulu establishment kutra panni sanders ni tokkesaru anukuntunnaru, election roju pagiliddi
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:42 pm:       


Pete_sampras:

obama ran on obamacare in 2008



Yes, Healthcare reform was one the many issues. But people did not like what he did and he lost majority in 2 years. Repubs who won did not allow Obama to fix the problems in Obamacare. Because they also won on opposition to ACA. If Trump wins now, it will be repealed. That is my whole point. Whatever people want will happen.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:36 pm:       


Bharat:

evadaithe free healthcare antaado vaaiki votlu esthe automatic ga govt provide chesthadi....govt ante adhemanna vere graham nundi vasthundhaa...majority prajalaki emi kavalo adhi jaruguthadhi.....majority free healthcare vadhu anukunte appudu etla provide chesthadi govt?



Sare kinda Andhravodu annattu obama ran on obamacare in 2008 and he won ante people ki adi kavali ane kada...again he won on 2012...ee sari GOP main agenda was Obamacare was bad but still people vote for it, it also went to Supreme court and even though there were 5 conservatives on the supreme court, obama care won...inka case museyochu anukunta
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:33 pm:       


Bharat:

Bernie Sanders gaadu all free annadu......democrats ye dngeyi mannaru



Bernie is exteme left bhayya where as Cruz is extreme right and both won't be good for country...believe me Hillary is more centrist than trump...look at his proposals he is more left than Hillary
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:32 pm:       


Pete_sampras:



evadaithe free healthcare antaado vaaiki votlu esthe automatic ga govt provide chesthadi....govt ante adhemanna vere graham nundi vasthundhaa...majority prajalaki emi kavalo adhi jaruguthadhi.....majority free healthcare vadhu anukunte appudu etla provide chesthadi govt?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:29 pm:       

Bernie Sanders gaadu all free annadu......democrats ye dngeyi mannaru
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:29 pm:       


Bharat:

naa post antha complex gaa undhaa ardham kakapodaniki



Annai sorry but nee post complex gaa ledu silly ga undi...roads govt provide chestadi, water govt provide chestadi but anniti kante most important health care matram cheyyakudadu,,,anthe naa....
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:29 pm:       


Rockfire:

They charge you more if you are working in city


Only to employers and only in SF. NYC has this stupid city tax
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:28 pm:       


Rockfire:

Democrats want to make US a completely Socialistic and Republicans want to continue the Capitalistic.

It is suicidal to try to make a country of the size of US as Socialistic.

The Democrats in CA are absolutely stupid. They charge you more if you are working in city. They fund for Gender Change Surgeries free of cost. Also they give Drivers License to Illegal Immigrants.



Perfect. well aid. People who are enjoying fruits of captialsim are longing for socialism when socialism is evaporating from all over the world. Pakkinti pulla koora ruchi.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:26 pm:       

In a nutshell

Democrats want to make US a completely Socialistic and Republicans want to continue the Capitalistic.

It is suicidal to try to make a country of the size of US as Socialistic.

The Democrats in CA are absolutely stupid. They charge you more if you are working in city. They fund for Gender Change Surgeries free of cost. Also they give Drivers License to Illegal Immigrants.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:25 pm:       

GOVT kallu nopi vasthe kallu nokkali. saggadu avsthe patch cheyyali. college fees kattali. years lo 2 weeks vacation ivvali. nelaki 10 restarurents lo vouchers ivvali. inka. communist country lo vundalsindhi between 1950 and 1980 appudu teluisedhi vellaki govt ante emito.kikiki
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:25 pm:       


Pete_sampras:

govt unnadi enduku mari?



naa post antha complex gaa undhaa ardham kakapodaniki
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:21 pm:       


Bharat:

elections lo prajalu decide chestharu govt em service provide cheyyali anedhi


ante, 2008, 12 lo prajalu decide ACA support decide chesara
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:15 pm:       


Bharat:

govt provide cheyyatam endhi...



govt unnadi enduku mari??
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:06 pm:       


Stellar:



India composition, kala kanda veru. akkada fiscal responsibility evadiki vundadhu. I like modi for that. he is better of the lot. ippude middle class strong avvutuhundhi. people are relaising the gross misuse of govts. india is adevelop country. developed country aina USA ni denga pettesaetattu unnaru dems. India lo rtax kattendhi pisarantha ikkada hettu entha. feeling lo teda vuntundhi kadha
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:05 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/obama-refugees-228134



neeyamma arei....ikkada yella tarabadi unna maa sangathenti raa.....illegals ki ok, refugees ki ok....H1B meedha pagabattindu
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:03 pm:       

Obama ki universal healthcare implement cheyadaniki dhammu saripoledhu...he had the congress in his pocket at that time.....atu itu kakunda chesaadu aa Obamacare tho
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:03 pm:       

Obama sir,

ee desani samoolamga kookati vella tho pekilinchalane ne aasayani chivari rojulo kooda vadalava . ne matha pichi snathakella.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:00 pm:       

jai_ycp dabbulleni india lo DN pettina arogyasri bagundi kaani, ikkada obama healthcare problem :D
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 04:00 pm:       


Bharat:

govt provide cheyyatam endhi.....elections lo prajalu decide chestharu govt em service provide cheyyali anedhi



Perfect. candidate ki ardhamu kataledhu. India lo ee govt enduku iiavdhu ani freebie voter adihinattu adugutunnadu. kurru tanamu poledhu.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 03:56 pm:       


Andhravodu:

Govt is a sham if it doesn't provide services



govt provide cheyyatam endhi.....elections lo prajalu decide chestharu govt em service provide cheyyali anedhi
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 03:52 pm:       


Jai_ycp:


inka aapeyyi, hoa are a sham to maintain appearances for similar income people. Govt is a sham if it doesn't provide services
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 03:40 pm:       


Andhravodu:




govt ante vadevado kadathadu ani feeling lo vunnavu.ala jargadhu. forget about its padi docu son what is govt responsibility and what is not

To understand the difference between collective responsibility and individual responsibility, best example is HOA.

We pay HOA dues to cover common roads, trash, snow removal and any othe rcommon items. if somebody does not cut his grass, you send a notice but dont go and cut his grass. why? You dont pay for your neighbors dailysys or cancer treatment? why? just like school and transportation, colony roads, trash removal comes under collective responsibility. pakkintodu mortgage, vadi heklath, vadi vacation is not collective responsibility.

Neeku inka ardhamu kakpothe
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 03:33 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

neeku naku tax rate hike chestadu unless you are in the 50% who dont pay any taxes. enjoy.


tax katte vallu, kattani vallu kadu, andariki band estunnadu. premium hike ante emiti anukuntunnavu. seep plans unnayi ani cheptaru, but mouth washing kooda paniki ravu aa plans. seep plan teeskoni doctor kelte, pakkaki pondamma annarani public complainting


Jai_ycp:

a school is for all kids. A bus is for all citizens. A doctor is only for sick person


kids lenollu, memu bus ki enduku kattali, car lenollu, memu highways ki enduku kattali ante how? doctor sick only ante, sickness emi cheppi radu ga adhyaksha, evari kaina ravachu


Jai_ycp:

Nuvvu ekkada dorikavu.e varu chepparu neeku 1 tril dollars accomade chestaru without Hike


military ki katte konchem teesi ikkada pettochu

but adi seyadu govt. military karsu valla maru moola pradesallo bases, ship building itta udyogalu unnayi. ee dabbulu taggiste, akkada hole padiddi
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 03:22 pm:       


Andhravodu:



Japan pays 430 billion for 120 Mil population. So USA ki ela chusina oka trillion dollar avvudhi. where is the money? neeku naku tax rate hike chestadu unless you are in the 50% who dont pay any taxes. enjoy.

Andhravodu:

anywhere between 30-40% kattinchukuntunnaru

intinta dabbulu tintunnappudu, govt minimum care teesukovali ga public meeda. mari, govt transport tarvata cheyalsindi healthcare. pilla bacha 1000s of local level lo esi padeyochu, but appudu pay to play etc etc avuddi



ippudu 60% avvudhi. Nuvvu ekkada dorikavu.e varu chepparu neeku 1 tril dollars accomade chestaru without Hike. it will become SS where it will be unmanageable.

You are missing the fundamentals. a school is for all kids. A bus is for all citizens. A doctor is only for sick person. people will have varying needs of health care. helath is dependent of your lifestyle and choices you make. why should the other citizens pay for it. There is nothing govt pays. it pays from your pocket only.


Andhravodu:

2 Trillion paina goonda squad us military ni emi chestavu? 10+ samvatsaralu chesi, 2.5 trillion kattaru oka vee pee yuddam meeda, adi ekkada pedatavu?



vadu wate chestha nenu cheyyakoodadha antava. National security is govt responsibility/ they dont do national security for some it is for all.

Any case should govt do it or not anedhic hudalante simple parameter. Does it serves general public or individuals? that is the litmus test.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 03:18 pm:       

Universal govt healthcare will result in 10% increase in taxes. This will be on top of the medicare we already pay.
 

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Jai_ycp:

UK lo colassal failure sami aa single payer system. there are numerous articles on that


100 undochu man articles

but okati alochinchu, govt ki tax enduku kadutunnattu junta? anywhere between 30-40% kattinchukuntunnaru

intinta dabbulu tintunnappudu, govt minimum care teesukovali ga public meeda. mari, govt transport tarvata cheyalsindi healthcare. pilla bacha 1000s of local level lo esi padeyochu, but appudu pay to play etc etc avuddi


Jai_ycp:

US kunna population 50% of the non tax paying nation ki health care minimum 60% tax kattakli govt ki.


50% non tax paying ani tavvukuntu pote, 2 Trillion paina goonda squad us military ni emi chestavu? 10+ samvatsaralu chesi, 2.5 trillion kattaru oka vee pee yuddam meeda, adi ekkada pedatavu?


Jai_ycp:

many people who are born poor has developed. some peopel are helthy by jeans or habits. some are not. its not an human right.


healthy by genes or habits ani soda tax este, godava manestara?
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 03:13 pm:       

canada is spending 211 billion for 35.16 mill population. do the math for USA.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 03:08 pm:       

For 65 million UK population, Health care spending is 142 billion in UK. Now for 325 million is uSA. it will be 700 billion per year. now who pays 700 billion. EE dems batch andari wage garnishing chesi teesukoval chachipotunnamu ee bleeding hearts thoti.
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Fargo:



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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 03:04 pm:       


Bithiri_bathi:



Why not styudent loans? why not equal pay for equal hours irrespective of all domains? why? oops its communism and it si proven it wont work. right??
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 03:03 pm:       


Andhravodu:




UK lo colassal failure sami aa single payer system. there are numerous articles on that
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/855271

dhani moolane medical tourism develop ayyindhi? you know the wait time to get to the doctor in those systems?

paiga who pays money for the system. you and me. there will be 8 non paying guys int he line before me even though they never paid a paisa.


Andhravodu:

the biggest advantage of most people is to be born to the right parents




many people who are born poor has developed. some peopel are helthy by jeans or habits. some are not. its not an human right. US kunna population 50% of the non tax paying nation ki health care minimum 60% tax kattakli govt ki.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 03:00 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

should you and i pay? for what?


yes

because ur Jagan's jesus said so
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 03:00 pm:       


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Nayak baa? is that you?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 02:57 pm:       


Anand_n:

Not completely - health is a social item and impacts economy too! Do you want neighbors perpetually carrying infections ? Do you want your kids to study in schools with other kids not having access to healthcare ? And from a business owner perspective do you want your employees sick frequently ? Why do you think corporates are spending so much on employee Health if it's a personal item ?




Don't combine public health with personal health? i think you know the difference. what business/companies give is a benefit to employees to join their company. i have seen people who switched jobs when other companies provide more health benefit too.

if some lazy person gets diabetic at 30 and needs kidney dialysis for ever, should you and i pay? for what?
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 02:50 pm:       


Dreamcatcher:

One way or the other, we are bearing the costs for poor/under-insured/uninsured


kadu, janalu kattedi for bloat. healthcare system inflated rates estundi, adi tagginchochu. but ala cheste, healthcare jobs bokka padiddi

manam katte bill lo doctors kante, administrative and other chetta ki dabbulu ekkuva potayi. govt telisi kooda emi peekadu.

just objective ki stick ayyi, poor/uninsured fix cheste inta kharchulu undavu
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 02:39 pm:       


Savyasachi:

my health insurance morethan doubled since obamacare came into effect. who is getting my money? why should i pay for some lazy fcuk who decided not to work or why should pay for some guys lung cancer treatment just because he decided to smoke his lungs out all his life. how is it fair to me.




One way or the other, we are bearing the costs for poor/under-insured/uninsured. Currently, Hospitals have no choice but to treat all. Any costs incurred by hospitals on under-insured/uninsured will be passed on to insured and able patients. So, your visit cost is going up and up year over year causing your insurance cost to go up. So, how is this different from everyone paying into one system that takes care of everyone?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 02:17 pm:       

obama ccare

pre existing cond clause ethi denkaad...eee okka daniki 1000 donga votes eyochu
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 02:15 pm:       


Bithiri_bathi:

but health care is different...surivival of the fittest is fine to some extent kani health care lo needhi nuvvu choosuko government emi help cheyyadhu antey Civil war gurantee ga untundhi




my health insurance morethan doubled since obamacare came into effect. who is getting my money? why should i pay for some lazy fcuk who decided not to work or why should pay for some guys lung cancer treatment just because he decided to smoke his lungs out all his life. how is it fair to me.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 01:54 pm:       


Andhravodu:

Healthcare is a human right




Correct cheppavu bro...I am against Government social programs...but health care is different...surivival of the fittest is fine to some extent kani health care lo needhi nuvvu choosuko government emi help cheyyadhu antey Civil war gurantee ga untundhi
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 01:20 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

All human born the same some advantages, disadvantages


the biggest advantage of most people is to be born to the right parents, that's all

Healthcare is a human right, already in 1st world countries. Obamacare was a bad implementation, a single payer system should ve been implemented
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 01:14 pm:       


Emc2:

DNK gau, total failure of bum care




nalla M ni nammi power isthe gudisi potharu anataniki classic example
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 10:31 am:       


Jai_ycp:




why govt should provide free education to kids? it is better to leave it to public, right? then those can afford go to schools.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 10:25 am:       


Jai_ycp:


health is personal item




Not completely - health is a social item and impacts economy too! Do you want neighbors perpetually carrying infections ? Do you want your kids to study in schools with other kids not having access to healthcare ? And from a business owner perspective do you want your employees sick frequently ? Why do you think corporates are spending so much on employee Health if it's a personal item ?

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 10:20 am:       


Dreamcatcher:

I don't think it is even worth disco dancing in this thread




I know why you get pissed off. some body should pay for your college tuition, health care but should not decide the girl you marry and stuff like that.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 10:18 am:       


Dreamcatcher:

So, you propose a system where a person has no choice but to die if he cannot afford health care?



No. You reap what you sow. just pay for what you use, thats it. otherwise you are a parasite to yourself and to the nation. what good is of them. some people have chronic disease some dont. soem are good in sports some not. All human are born with some advantage and some disdvantages. You cant do undo them. Even if you take wealth from every human being and redistribute them, you are never going to solve the problem. its survival of the fittest. it has been the way of nature.

Rising medical costs are due to stupid libel laws and court system. there should be a reform to it. thats the reason medical care is so high as doctors and hospitals pay extraneous amount for insurance to protect themselves. an example this week i read in MSN that target was asked to pay 20 Million to a lady because there was needle in the parking lot which was picket up by her daughter and she got a scratch. it was not placed by target employee. what do you say to that.
UK was wost suffered in single payer system. you know what happens in that system right. if you have a heart attack and need bipass surgery, you have to wait for some govt employee to put your case in the order. Some nutshells who never paid a single penny to the economy or system will be standing in queue ahead of you. what happens if a stroke comes to you. people then go to different countries for health. you got robbed twice.

health is personal item so as student loans, clothes, shoes. it is shameful to ask others to pay for your stuff.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 10:16 am:       


Dreamcatcher:


So, you propose



it think it should be affordable if not free. which is not the case in us.
the only option is to die or immigrate to a country with cheaper health care.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 10:11 am:       


Jai_ycp:

what all should be covered .
every body should have same pay, same house, total health care. why have provate property at all. let govt give cars no personal income. how about that. why stop at that. why cant we get beautiful girls. so govt decides what girl you can marry. its not fair right only for some to get beauties.




Enjoy your day, my friend. I don't think it is even worth disco dancing in this thread.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 10:09 am:       


Jai_ycp:

you should be crazy to think this.




So, you propose a system where a person has no choice but to die if he cannot afford health care?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 10:07 am:       


Dreamcatcher:

It is destined to fail either way. Health Care is a universal need that should be offered to all citizens of the country. Government monitored Single payer system is the only choice for nations to meet this need successfully.




you should be crazy to think this. what all should be covered .
every body should have same pay, same house, total health care. why have provate property at all. let govt give cars no personal income. how about that. why stop at that. why cant we get beautiful girls. so govt decides what girl you can marry. its not fair right only for some to get beauties.

unless you are a parasite, you will not like these. in usa, 47% does not pay any tax, they will eb ahppy to share this.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 10:06 am:       

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/blog/2011/nov/n ew-census-poverty-measure

That mommies life...developed country lo medical costs are pushing citizens into poverty antay, that speaks volumes about the health care system with or without Obama Care.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 10:03 am:       


Hero:




adhi opinion kadhu kada. all COOPS failed and are closing down. idhi fact e ekadha.

Emc2:

DNK gau



podupodune aa bhotulu endhi nanu?
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 10:03 am:       


Jai_ycp:

This again proves govt are not supposed to take care of citizens personal impacted items such as health care, student loans etc.




Obama care failure is linked to these how? At least he tried, so he gets some credit? American Health Care system cannot sustain current model even without Obama Care. It is destined to fail either way. Health Care is a universal need that should be offered to all citizens of the country. Government monitored Single payer system is the only choice for nations to meet this need successfully.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 09:59 am:       

DNK gau, total failure of bum care
 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 09:56 am:       


Jai_ycp:

http://www.foxnews.com




 

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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 09:55 am:       

23 coops aere started only 6 remainign. avi kooda tondarlo folding. all over maerical rates are gonna increase starting in 2017.

obama only doemstic agenda is a complete failure. I dont know if he did anyhting else
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/13/another-obamacare -co-op-folds-leaving-only-6-remaining.html

This again proves govt are not supposed to take care of citizens personal impacted items such as health care, student loans etc. govt should spend on collective items such as roads, schools, public health, national security etc.
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