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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 09:11 am:       


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repu encounter with Muralikrishna lo KTR gaadu cheppevi choodu.




already tidbits vesadu tv9 lo.
14 years gaa kcr 'oka bhavajaalaanni'(telangana ki anyayam) janam lo ki ekkinchadu, thats why people got connected ani annaadu..

what ktr conveniently ignored is - ..2002 nunchi 2009 varaku kcr cheppindi janaalaki ekkindi antanta maatrame...2009 lo kcr elections miserable performance tarvaata... kcr drink chesi helicopter lo ekkabotoo kindaki padipoye scene ni anni channels lo comedy chestoo programs vesaaru... if u remember...

after ysr death, seems some internal equations changed and suddenly tv9 lo oka 3 hr program kcr with rajnikanth vachindi in tv9 ... lot of discussion...real gaa cheppali ante 'bhavajaalam' ekkinchatam anedi appude start ayindi...after that kcr fasting, dec statement total equation change ayindi... what i am saying is 'bhaavajaalam ekkinchatam' anedi oka 2 - 3 years process lo peaks ki vellipoyindi...

same may happen with SCS also...it doesnt need to be decade long process as ktr analyzed..
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 09:10 am:       


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How are you ? Antha happy eena ?
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 09:02 am:       


Zuran:

idi silly as well as impractical.
SCS kooda life long ivvamani adagadam ledu kadaa..5 to 10 years - so that AP will be as developed as TS




idi impractical aithe AP ki special status inka impractical. AP janalu tappa prapancham mottam AP ki division lo anyayam jarigindi ani marchi poyaru. repu encounter with Muralikrishna lo KTR gaadu cheppevi choodu. AP politicians antha valla state ki emi kavalo chooda kunda politics chesthunnaru. KCR laga evaru public kosam work cheyyatledata.

AP ki special status will not happen unless someone does an unfair bill in the parliament. Ivvala modi BJP leaders tho annadi choosaru kada. Gujarath vidipoyinappudu memu uppu ammu koni brathikamu, ippudu AP ki aa stage lo lemu kada annadu...

ide modi mother died, birth successful etc annadu. veede ila unte, orissa MPs, tripura MPs ki emi gurthu untadi eppudo 2014 lo AP ane state ni anyayam gaa vida teesaru ani
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:30 am:       


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Then fight for your proper share from Hyderabad.




What do u mean by fight for your share. Hyd nunchi vache total income lo share teesukomanaa? idi silly as well as impractical.
SCS kooda life long ivvamani adagadam ledu kadaa..5 to 10 years - so that AP will be as developed as TS (infrastructure and revenue wise)
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:21 am:       


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bifurcation kaavalani adigi vidipoyina vaadiki surplus undi..vaddu anna vadiki deficit undi.




Then fight for your proper share from Hyderabad.
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:20 am:       

Wife gatti ga demand chestene ga, alimony vachchedi. Political gains kosam, AP leaders silent ga unnaru. Whose mistake is it?

Appudu silent ga undi, aa loss cover cheyyadaniki, oori meeda padatam, emi bavuntundi?
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:17 am:       


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Silly argument. Mana ki split vaddu, telangana ki kavali. Except CPM, no other party objected for it. What to do?



but effect padindi common man of AP meeda. bifurcation kaavalani adigi vidipoyina vaadiki surplus undi..vaddu anna vadiki deficit undi.. anni parties kalisi AP ni munchayi kabatte, anni parties ni AP meeda padda negative impact ni nuetralize cheyamani adugutunnaru...through SCS or whatever..
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:15 am:       

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Husband wife vidipovaalante alimony maatladataaru kadaa

Ikkada judge ki aa husband tho avasaram undi alimoby malli choosuk u ndaam ani caseclosed
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:14 am:       

Britain decided to exit EU, negotiations will take more than a year on how to proceed, manaku alaa ledu as its done for political gains
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:13 am:       

Husband and wife llo okallu vidipotham ante, ye judge ayina ennallu aapa galadu? Eppudo oka time lo ivvalsinde.
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:12 am:       

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T Ki kaavalante icheyyali ani decision teesukunnadi central govt

Talk abt people here, not abt politicis
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:11 am:       

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Brother split ante final decision teesukundi nenu kaadu vachina pedda manushulu, aa pedda manushulu parledu split avvandi mee kaluva (kg basin) andothers valla maaku ibbandi ledu memu meeku istaam ani cheppi split chesaaru
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:09 am:       


Zuran:

ishtam lekapoyina bifurcation chesi




Silly argument. Mana ki split vaddu, telangana ki kavali. Except CPM, no other party objected for it. What to do?
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:07 am:       

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Nuvvu vaddantunna, nee brother split kavali annadu. Split cheyyadam thappadu. Nuvvu gatti ga matlada leka povadam tho, major part nee brother ki vellipoyindi. Oollo vallu andaru chandalu vesukuni nee losses ni cover cheyyali ante, ela?

Fight for your genuine share from your fathers property.
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:06 am:       


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Job ki velladaniki car kavali. Camry lo vellochchu, Ferrari lo vellochchu.



correct e, but pre-bifurcation, job ki bike lo velle vaanni, vadiki ishtam lekapoyina bifurcation chesi, ippudu post-bifurcation office ki cycle lo vellamani cheppadam enti..
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:04 am:       


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Orissa mana neighboring state ani marchipothunnaru.




(news snippet - 2014, post Manmohan announcement of SCS in RS for AP) -

âSpecial category status is accorded to a state under very special circumstances and Odisha doesnât have any special disadvantage to get such status,â Mr. Ahluwalia said at a question-answer session. But recently, the same was accorded to a bifurcated state of Andhra Pradesh because it was deprived of its capital Hyderabad along with lots of resources, Mr. Ahluwalia said.
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:02 am:       

Nu ee avi teeseyyi ivi teeseyyi concept enti asalu?

Ilaanti schemes anni north east states lo levaa??
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:02 am:       

asala andhra under develoed ani ela antaru especially special status eligibility and high financial assistance ignoring other states .....though mee too pawan fan i agree only till andhra ki tax incentives matrame ivvali i dont agree with any package and demanding any package for andhra....

package ante adi politicians jebulloki leda amaravati laanti one place lo concentration ke upayoga paduddi.....

looks at andhra pradsh positives when compared to other states

1)Andhra has RTC public transport corporation while in almost all north states private transport dominates irrikinch irikinchi kummutaru

2)andha has good rail and road connectivity, rail connectivity still under construction lo unna chala projects road ways are ne of best in india

3)andhra has good crop production and water availability......barring rayal seema minimum year ki 1-2 crops panchinchukuni self sustain avvagalige resources unnai.....

4)biggest aqua industry in world....world lo frest water aqua lo india top ayite india lo andhra top with 40% market

5)one of richest people ....barring rayal seema ....andhra lo people below poverty line and tindi ledu udygam dorakatalledu type chala takkuva whole india tho compare cheskunte.....

6)india lo one of best ports unnayi.....

7)etc etc.......

inni pettukuni maadi beeda rastram dabbulu kavali ante yela yevadiki ye politicain kosam ee dabbulu....???

tax incentives matrame andhra ki kavalsindi....
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:01 am:       


Zuran:


And the revenue expenditure of AP is 93,521 crore - i.e. there is a revenue deficit.




Runamafee, castewise runamelas, Pushkarams, opening ceremonies, Chandranna kanukalu etc wastage theesesthe, revenue deficit emi undadu.

Job ki velladaniki car kavali. Camry lo vellochchu, Ferrari lo vellochchu.
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 08:00 am:       

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State bifurcation happened for political reasons, first indian concept lo kooda u should talk abt real challenges of fellow indians, unnodi daggara laakkunnaru, its not same as asalu emi leni vaadu, no need to conpare with other states
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:57 am:       


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why r u bothered abt orissa or tn or whatever? When we were asked to leave hyd we lost revenue which isnt case with others




First Indian, then Andhrite - concept. Hyderabad revenue lo manaki genuine ga ravalsina share ravadam ledu anukunte, fight for it.

BJP parliament lo noru jaradam thappa, SCS ravalsinantha financial difficulties AP ki levu. Pakka states tho equal ayye varaku, SCS ivvali anevallu, Orissa mana neighboring state ani marchipothunnaru.
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:56 am:       


Doosukelta:

non viability ane jeetalu kuda icchukoleni situation day today activities ki teevra ibbandiga unde situation



akkadi daaka vasthe adi non-viable situation kaadu, that is called crisis. Like the Balance of payments crisis India had in 1991.
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:56 am:       

And the revenue expenditure of AP is 93,521 crore //

rev expenditure manam entha penchukunte natha avuddhi

udhogula jeethau rich state TG tho potee padi 45% penchatam valnaa prtahi yr 5000 cr extra rev expenditure

pay commisiion ceppintalu 28% inc cetshe saripoyedhi


ika runamaphee oka 6000 cr sper yr rev expenditure

ia vrudha karsulu tagginchukunet rev def thaggiddhi
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:53 am:       

TG pop is 3.5 crores

AP is 4.5 crores
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:53 am:       


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Andhra Pradesh received Rs 90,122.58 crore revenue receipts during 2015-16 achieving 100 per cent target. Telangana's revenue receipts are around Rs 88,550 crore.




And the revenue expenditure of AP is 93,521 crore - i.e. there is a revenue deficit.

Just comparing AP revenue receipt with TS revenue receipts to show AP is rich - is flawed. Just to give a simple analogy, 13 districts AP and 10 districts TS have "approximate ratio" of 58:42 in size and population. So, if u go by same analogy, TS 88,550 crore means, by same ratio, AP revenue receipts should have been 122283 crore. So AP is lagging in revenue receipts as well.
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:51 am:       

telangaan total revenue including every thing receieved from center and own taxes = 88000 cr

AP including everything =90000 cr

manam emi adukku thinatam ledhu

TG pop is 4 crores

AP is 5.5 crores
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:50 am:       

42% state government ki istunte only 5 yrs lo Andhra getting 1.84 lakh crores .....
appatike ardika ibbndulu almost taggipovali........

polavaram 36k crores
capital ki 2500c till now inka ila chala vastayi ....anni kalupukunte.......

ivvali udaram ga ivvatam maku nyayam cheyyatam ante migata states like north east, odisha, chattisgarh, jharkhand etc poor states ki icche dabbulonchi teesi andhra ki ivvali inka....
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:46 am:       

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Pushkaralaku pettakoodadu spl status adakkodadu then how so u get visibility or money?
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:45 am:       

According to official statistics, AP reported collection of Rs 31,120 crore revenue from sales tax, Rs 12,739 crore from excise, Rs 3578 crore from land registrations and stamp duty, Rs 2,128 from transport, Rs 1,390 from mines and minerals. Entertainment tax, Nala tax, professional tax, luxury tax, and sugarcane cess also reported decent growth rate during 2015-16. AP's own tax revenue touched Rs 44,423 crore.

Telangana on the other hand earned about Rs 40,000 crore. The non-tax revenue of Andhra Pradesh also rose to Rs 5,300 crore. Transfers from the Centre reported 120 per cent increase over the previous financial year. AP received Rs 21,966 crore under different grants from the Centre
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:43 am:       


Zuran:

did AP not lose capital? or its revenues? Any idea, how much revenue HYD brings just through software exports? Didn't AP lose that revenue all together?



nee post nuvve inko sr saduvuko annai

Zuran:

� Non-viable financial situation



non viability ane jeetalu kuda icchukoleni situation day today activities ki teevra ibbandiga unde situation.....like oka family ki tindi kosam vetukkuni roju ela gadustunda inti adde yela kadadama etc situation but


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In reality, which is proven wrong. For pushkaras, in two years, we are able to spend 4000 Cr.


 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:40 am:       

RIGHT NOW ALL REVENUES TOGETHER CENTRAL AND STTAE combined together AP is getting more than TG

For the first time, AP surpassed Telangana in both tax and non-tax revenue categories including income from commercial taxes, transport, liquor sale, and stamps and registration.
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Andhra Pradesh received Rs 90,122.58 crore revenue receipts during 2015-16 achieving 100 per cent target. Telangana's revenue receipts are around Rs 88,550 crore.
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:39 am:       


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For pushkaras, in two years, we are able to spend 4000 Cr.




penam vedi ga vundhi ani oka 1000cr extra vesesara omnamasivaya
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:37 am:       


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In reality, which is proven wrong



what was proven wrong. can u elaborate?
did AP not lose capital? or its revenues? Any idea, how much revenue HYD brings just through software exports? Didn't AP lose that revenue all together?
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:33 am:       

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why r u bothered abt orissa or tn or whatever?

When we were asked to leave hyd we lost revenue which isnt case with others
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:31 am:       

Difference between special status and special category status:

⢠Special status is guaranteed by the Constitution of India through an Act passed by the two-third majority in both houses of the Parliament, as in the case of Jammu and Kashmir, whereas Special Category Status is granted by the National Development Council, an administrative body of the government. While Special Status empowers legislative and political rights, Special Category Status deals only with economic, administrative and financial aspects.

==> So it needs to be understand that, for granting SCS, there is no need of legislation in parliament. BJP just cant escape all the time saying, INC did not include SCS in its bifurcation bill
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:30 am:       


Zuran:

AP is asking for SCS based on last point as, during bifurcation, the state got deprived of capital and the revenue it brings.




In reality, which is proven wrong. For pushkaras, in two years, we are able to spend 4000 Cr.
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:28 am:       

What benefits states will get with special status?

⢠Normal Central Assistance (NCA) is split into 90% grants and 10% loans for special category states, while the ratio between grants and loans is 30:70 for other states.
⢠The special category states get 30% of the total assistance for all states while the other states share the remaining 70%.
⢠a significant concession in excise and customs duties
⢠concession in income and corporate taxes
⢠External aid will also to be devolved in the same ratio as received by the Centre.
⢠According to the Gadgil formula, a special category State gets preferential treatment in federal assistance and tax breaks - significant excise duty concessions. Thus, these States attract a large number of industrial units to establish manufacturing facilities within their territory leading to their economy flourishing.
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:26 am:       

While most of the people in AP unequivocally say - AP needs special status, seems there is a need to educate some people in DB as they are strongly advocating AP doesnt need special status. So, pulling some pointers from my notes prepared during civils preparation..

First thing - it is NOT Special status - it is Special Category Status. These 2 are two different things in Polity.

Criteria for Special Category Status (SCS) defined by ministry of planning: State is eligible for special criteria if it suffers from:
⢠Hilly and difficult terrain
⢠Low population density and/or sizeable share of tribal population
⢠National security concerns
⢠Economic and infrastructure backwardness
⢠Non-viable financial situation

==> AP is asking for SCS based on last point as, during bifurcation, the state got deprived of capital and the revenue it brings.
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:21 am:       


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Then how should Andhra grow. Why should investors come and invest in AP when properly developed cities are there near by




Every state ki own advantages, disadvantages unnayi. Mana strength ports. Krishnapatnam, Sricity vachchaka, TN heat feel avuthundi.

Gujarat tho samanam ayye varaku, manaki extra benefits ivvali ani adigithe, manalni chisi, pakkanunna Orissa vadu enni adagali?

Central excise tax elimination ante small benefit kadu, industries annee AP ke vasthayi, at the cost of other states. Vallu object cheyyakunda ela untaru? Its just like reservations.
 

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Avunu mari, pakka states annee verriPs. TN lo industrial growth already slow ayyindi. AP ki special status isthe, Tg, TN, KA llo existing companies kooda, tax benefits kosam Andhra move avuthayi.




Then how should Andhra grow. Why should investors come and invest in AP when properly developed cities are there near by
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:13 am:       


Kadapafan:


Pakka states vallu emi feel avutaaro emi chestaaro manakenduku? Manaki kaavalsindi manam fight cheyyali




Ala ayithe, reserve bank nundi entha kavaliste antha Andhra draw chesukovachchu ani adugudam. Godava undadu.

Possible kani dani kosam, fight chesi, enduku energy waste chesukovadam?
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:11 am:       


Kadapafan:

AP is competing with other states to attract investments, but we dont have any armoury to fight. SS will give that armoury and put us in competition. This should be demanded not asked. If you have taken away revenues from state you have to fill in some where.




Exactly. At the same time babu kuda konni dubaara karchulu taggisthe baaguntundhi. Ee dubara karchulu valla state nastapoyedhani gurinchi kaaadhu maatladedhi, mana gurinchi alochinche janala mindset gurinchi.


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It has to be fought, but conclusion of Kakinada is disappointing.




For me too. PK anavasaram ga excite avtunnadu cheppe point clear ga cheppakunda
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:07 am:       

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Ap needs spl status to become net positive for revenue deficits
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:06 am:       

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Pakka states vallu emi feel avutaaro emi chestaaro manakenduku? Manaki kaavalsindi manam fight cheyyali
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 07:02 am:       

AP does not need SS
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 06:59 am:       

T ela vachindo chala discussion lu chesam gani ikkada AP SS Enduku ravali andaniki nejyateega chepandi --
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 06:56 am:       

yes DOUBLE GAME BENEFIT gone to KCR

cbn and jgan iddharu kalisi NO TO TG ani ceppi unte tg vacchedhi kaaddhu
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 06:53 am:       

Bokxa le, sentiment Andhra vallakena, Telangana valla ki undada?

Andhra leaders CBN, Jagan, Chiranjeevi lu evadi benefit kosam vadu double game aadadu. Veella chetha kani thanam valla, KCR win ayyadu.
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 06:52 am:       

evadu ee pk ki script raasado kaani

NORTH vs SOUTH ani arusthunandu pk

asalu main states opposing SS TO AP are southern states TN and KA

pk ni verri mohanni ni cesadu aa script writer evado

pk plese change script writwr immediately
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 06:49 am:       

Tax lu Benfit lu pakka labalu mastalu pakka pettali this is more sentiment issue

6 kotla seemandhrula nerasana assembly theermanam kala rasi rendu jatheeya partlu thalipul moosi prajaswamyani kooni chesaru ...manam ye desam lo vunnama anedaniki answer ga chodali that will also help resolve hurted sentiments and financial push-up ..okka Hakku rendu solutions
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 06:48 am:       


Kadapafan:

The most important profit if special status is given is, tax benefits that will be given to corporates who come to invest in AP.




Avunu mari, pakka states annee verriPs. TN lo industrial growth already slow ayyindi. AP ki special status isthe, Tg, TN, KA llo existing companies kooda, tax benefits kosam Andhra move avuthayi.
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 06:42 am:       

If AP really needs special status, TDP should work the same way, but PK should own the movement, that way he will get needed support within AP from Govt ///


ika ayipoyindhi no more pub meetings annadu .. melodrama malal 6 months ke darsanam any doubts DO U THINK RELALY PK CARES ABOUT SS hahah what ajoke


if he reay cares nine kryacharana prakatinche vaadu direct gaa modi ni dobeb vaadu chethakani vedhava laaga papam venky ni ane vodu kaadhu

papam cult fans pk cethilo ennisaarlu avutharu verri mohalu
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 06:41 am:       


Kadapafan:




nuvvu db ki vacchava
 

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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 06:33 am:       

Pawan Kalyan is raising emotions, but not communicating real need of Special Status. Sivaji youtube and adapa dadapa programs lo need of special status cheptunnadu, but he cannot evoke emotions and need like PK. Jagan is doing it for political mileage but at heart doesnt really care on it. TDP wants to do like "chattam tana pani taanu chesukuntoo potundi"

If AP really needs special status, TDP should work the same way, but PK should own the movement, that way he will get needed support within AP from Govt (though passive) and TDP can still play a role of managing cordial relations with centre and get what ever it can get, in case SS doesnt come through.

Whats surprising is, nobody is really talking about essence of why we need special status. The most important profit if special status is given is, tax benefits that will be given to corporates who come to invest in AP. Filling in revenue deficit is rubbish. Its like saying, neeku unde bokkalu nenu teerustaa, but neeku dabbulu vache margam maatram allow cheyyanu. Revenue deficit will continue to exist if state doesnt get additional income. By reorg act, centre will help may be 5 year, but how can we become net positive by then?

Northeast states ki SS unna lekunna diff undadu as people dont go and invest there, despite of tax benefits because of political risks, lack of man power and infrastructure. AP has all those risks covered. If Tax benefits are given, with our natural resources there would be many companies looking to invest in state. This is the only way we get money and become net positive in 5 years time.

Whether its controversial or not, one can go and check the number of delegations made by Gujarat state or representatives during BJP regime now and can find how far they are ahead in inviting investments and attracting them.

Okka CBN lingu lituku mantu enta tiriginaa backup need to come from either tax benefits or already existing economic landscape etc.., in the state which doesnt have. If SS is not given these would take years to build.

AP is competing with other states to attract investments, but we dont have any armoury to fight. SS will give that armoury and put us in competition. This should be demanded not asked. If you have taken away revenues from state you have to fill in some where.

It has to be fought, but conclusion of Kakinada is disappointing. Only way it can happen is if PK fights and TDP does what its doing now.

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