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Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 12774 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 96.237.166.145 Rating: |
its not about recall. its about learning from history. wiki search chesi facts evadanna chepthadu. that's not what they push for. how do you internalize various events and form an opinion, which can be defended. history is not a series of facts - it's about knowing the context, the whys and the hows. not just the whats. | ||
Thikka_sankara Legend Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 30385 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 223.181.207.203 Rating: N/A |
adi kaadu babumoshai.... Why to stress on That which need not be remembered ani.... Manchi database lu create chesukunte better kada for quick reference.... Same thing with law.... Why to go on and on when you can put everything probably in a graph kind of db and access necessary info quick and fast?? Why can't we speed up things in these routine processes?? It's the victims that don't belong to a religion -- reference intended | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 50368 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.20 Rating: |
but IIT kurrollu Engineering teesukoni kummestharu..as they get full scoring marks.. compared to theory subjects..chances of getting perfect scores are higher in Math based subject.. | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 12771 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 96.237.166.145 Rating: N/A |
ennachi? | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 50366 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.20 Rating: |
Yo..first thing..unless you are MA in History..aa History antha batti pattatam antha veezy kaadu.. I have seen BA History syllabus..in Osmanai..daani valla Civils ki pedda use emi undadu.. nenu raasinappudu kooda one of my optionals was History and other was Sociology.. endukante Engineering teesukone antha scene naaku ledu kabatti..also I was always interested in History..but History is too vast..to cover Sociology/Anthropology enduku teesukontaru ante..those subjects have limited content.. | ||
Zuran Junior Artist Username: Zuran Post Number: 313 Registered: 06-2007 Posted From: 167.230.140.10 Rating: N/A |
I think it is 50 members minimum. That too 50 members out of the ppl who qualify to mains...But I dont think Telugu has ever been cancelled as medium because of this region. Moreover this rule was included in 2011 or 2013 i think, for all regional languages. There was no such rule earlier... http://zurancinema.wordpress.com/ | ||
Doosukelta Junior Artist Username: Doosukelta Post Number: 156 Registered: 04-2016 Posted From: 109.90.217.20 Rating: N/A |
no minimum inta mandi telugulo rastam ani option pettukovali appude adi avuddi | ||
Zuran Junior Artist Username: Zuran Post Number: 312 Registered: 06-2007 Posted From: 167.230.140.10 Rating: N/A |
mains could be taken in any of the regional languages (i think most of the 22 languages recognized by Govt of India). Could be taken in telugu too... http://zurancinema.wordpress.com/ | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 50365 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.56.37.213 Rating: N/A |
Before Hindi was allowed as medium to take the exam..Cow belt hawa konchem Thakkuva undedi.. After they started allowing exam to be taken in Hindi..zara system kalthi ayyindi.. But off late chaala mandi Techie guys are getting into Civils | ||
Zuran Junior Artist Username: Zuran Post Number: 311 Registered: 06-2007 Posted From: 167.230.140.10 Rating: |
I dont think, whoever has this view, has seen any of the previous UPSC papers. UPSC questions are very analytical and yet simple. Answers for some of the questions cant be find directly in text books as well as by 'googling'. E.g. refer UPSC Aug 2016 prelims question of - virus can affect plants/bacteria/ fungus etc... But if you have inquisitive mind and if you properly couple it with hardwork, you can crack the exam. batti patti group-2 type of exams possible but not civils.
Administration requires 'GENARALIST' not specialists. But generalist should be able to understand what 'specialist' is talking. So UPSC makes sure that most talented and hard-working people are selected who will be able to work under pressure. And most of the 'teams' will have specialist, even though led by generalists like IAS.
Do u know, what is happening with APPSC chairman and APPSC members - in last few years? Every time govt changes, political unemployees of the ruling party getting these posts. Most of these members appointed by state do not have proper qualifications and only because of political reasons they are appointed..
Again, they dont have to be experts... come out of the mind that IAS will do projects single hand. It will be GROUP of people and IAS will be administrating. Let me elaborate. There is an infrastructure project that needs to consider - environmental consequences of the project and at the same time economical benefits of the project. This requires 2 or even specialists like environmental specialist, economist, geologists etc.. exper tin one of these fields, mostly do not understand what expert in other field is saying...here comes the need of administrator who can understand both specialists at high level and can negotiate and can take a balanced decision. And, this is what is IAS!!!
Agreed to some extent that some youngsters get top ranks each year. But you have to see the holistic picture. IAS gaurav agarwal 1st ranker in 2014 result - was IIT Btech, IIM MBA and investment banker and then IAS. there are many others who take internship kind of projects at NGOs and non-proft orgs and this experience is counted during interviews...
There are many other ways other than IAS to contribute to government if they decide to do so...
In History too, where analytical questions are difficlut to frame, UPSC has not asked about dates/ king names etc at least in the last decade. history questions actually focus on culture...for e.g. there was a question on Nalanda university of ancient India and the methodology of the teaching there - and relating it to methodologies followed in universities currently... hope u got the point.. http://zurancinema.wordpress.com/ | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 50364 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.56.37.213 Rating: N/A |
Gabbar Singh main aa raha hoon.. Enti mana Civil Services topic ae naa.. | ||
Telugu_times Legend Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 48204 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.0.30.9 Rating: N/A |
Roju db chudatledhaa? secularism maatlaaday vaallaki history or neighboring countries ground realities thelisay discuss chesthunnaaru antaavaa? anyway, last post in this thread. I dont want to divert the topic here Ignore spam and AJ. | ||
Thikka_sankara Legend Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 30375 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 223.181.207.203 Rating: |
but why??? History laanti vi batti Patti reproduce chesi em saadistaru??? That too, in current age?? Oka authentic history database create chesukunte aipoyedaniki?? It's not as if life and death depends on the knowledge of a particular aspect of history on demand right??? It's the victims that don't belong to a religion -- reference intended | ||
Telugu_times Legend Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 48203 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.0.30.9 Rating: |
Batti pattadam kaadhu, Learnomg History. History theliyaka pothey, mana db lo kondhari laaga, ninna monna thelisina rendu secular topics meedha spamming chesukuntaa thirigesthaar ezzample https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide Ignore spam and AJ. | ||
Thikka_sankara Legend Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 30373 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 223.181.207.203 Rating: |
Perfect.....Aaaa history laanti subjects battipattudu ento.... What are the aspirants trying to prove?? It's the victims that don't belong to a religion -- reference intended | ||
Wellsfargo Side Hero Username: Wellsfargo Post Number: 6028 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 124.123.181.172 Rating: N/A |
actually this pool is also not that bad pool. edo UPSC exam lo anthropology or Urdu teesukunnarani vallaki ave telusu anukunte ela. They have different set of abilities that we all lack. Mana companies lo CEO type lo IAS lu untaru. There are many other positions in Government departments whch are occupied by experts. Finance secretary may be an IAS but RBI and other financial institutions have experts from finance. The finance secretary and finance minister are the interface between the people and the execution. so vallaki general skills undali. | ||
Redbull Side Hero Username: Redbull Post Number: 4964 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 195.43.48.140 Rating: N/A |
mana indian OCI/visa application process itself, tells how effective our system is...English used in website, visa process...nightmare... | ||
Legend Username: Twitter Post Number: 46795 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.26.64.91 Rating: |
desam lo batti kottakunda sadhincha galigedhi emi ledhu ..prathi CET ki battifying thone kadha enter ayyedhi ..inka real talent ante ekkadanunchi thestharu? economics chadhivina vodu ias authadu kaani antha easy kaadhu vaadu kooda kaavalisinantha math pass avvali..prelims mains ayyeppatiki generals and electives meedha chaala grip osthadhi .. it is not so easy. UPSC minus reservation is the best talent pool. | ||
Saarang Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 13525 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.74 Rating: N/A |
The number of selections from families of current IAS, IPS officers also makes the selection process look shady. | ||
Saarang Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 13524 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.74 Rating: |
Ee system peddha boku...My biggest issue is carers or set too early without any real track record of success and once they are set, no body gets kicked out and outsiders are allowed: 1) Under 28 age or whatever age lo oka exam petti oka batch ni career mottham set chestaaru. No accountability once they pass that. No guarantee that they are performing well after their intial entry to get to higher posts like principal secretary etc. Number of years batti routine ga promotions icchukunta potaaru, aadu entha corrupt ayina lazy under performer ayina they will keep getting promoted at the same rate as the rest of his "batchmates". Most of this batch ki zero real work experience before entering civil services as will be regurgitating some history or anthropology at a coaching center for years without working in real world to get through these exams and interviews. Lets assume they are getting the interview process right (which is not true), what is the guarantee that the candidate is motivated to perform well for the next 30 years. 2) Principal Secretary of Finance, Irrigation, Higher Education etc any high level post teesukunte, most logical way to fill that is to make it an open interview process for experts in that field. Why restrict it to some guys that studied anthropology and urdu literature 20 years back. Aa department lo career mottham baaga work chesina vallu kooda, they cannot rise above the IAS head of the department. Let say some bright private executive decides to serve in the government at age 40 or 50, why prevent him entering due to those age and exam limits. | ||
Doosukelta Junior Artist Username: Doosukelta Post Number: 147 Registered: 04-2016 Posted From: 109.90.217.20 Rating: N/A |
ante tlent ni yerukovali antunna ....not giving permanant position .... for example repu neeku biology lo noble vacchindi anuko....... ninnu head ga petti innovation, biology field lo development lo decision making lo mundukellataniki......dani gurinchi yemi teliyani vadu head ga undi vadi kinda nuvvu pani cheyyataniki differance gurinchi cheptunna......  | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 12767 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 96.237.166.145 Rating: N/A |
alright.  | ||
Doosukelta Junior Artist Username: Doosukelta Post Number: 146 Registered: 04-2016 Posted From: 109.90.217.20 Rating: |
+1 | ||
Doosukelta Junior Artist Username: Doosukelta Post Number: 145 Registered: 04-2016 Posted From: 109.90.217.20 Rating: N/A |
ledannai regionalism kuda chupistunnar.........manaki zone ivvali ante orissa iaslu not feasible ani report ippinchar.....etc they are showing descrimination wich must not be present at apex levels..... | ||
Bharat Side Hero Username: Bharat Post Number: 2723 Registered: 06-2015 Posted From: 107.15.73.238 Rating: N/A |
Every govt should appoint their choice of experts after elections......that is how it works in at least in USA......After Obama leaves, all his top bureaucrats will resign and new people will be appointed by next president. | ||
Bharat Side Hero Username: Bharat Post Number: 2722 Registered: 06-2015 Posted From: 107.15.73.238 Rating: |
IPS, IRS are ok.....they are limited to one type of work and staying in the same job helps a lot......IAS system is ridiculous....How can they be experts in different fields like Irrigation, Finance, Power, Foreign Policy, Defense?.....Govts should have the freedom to recruit and fire from the public based on their expertise.....Only for general administration purpose IAS should be used. | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 12766 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 96.237.166.145 Rating: |
manakey intha thelivuntey aallaki aa mathram theldhankuntunnava? political games avi undochu kani pani jeyyalantey kummodultharu.
LOL. benefits calculate cheyakundaney aa project intha dhooramochinda? india lo everything is political and babus are part of the game. state babus, central babus - lo evadu thopo, vadu game naduputhadu. nuvvokapali oka proper open category IAS tho interact avvali brother. | ||
Doosukelta Junior Artist Username: Doosukelta Post Number: 144 Registered: 04-2016 Posted From: 109.90.217.20 Rating: |
naku impressive anipinchataniki main reason idannai......
economics chadivina ias vadu water resources ki head ayite.....vadu galla petta chuskuntada aa projet valla vacche use chustada???? mana polavaram ye example.....central finance dept lo unde IAS lu galla pette chustunnar......but invest cheste vacce benifits calculate cheyyaleka kurchuntunnar.....simple and plain | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 12765 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 96.237.166.145 Rating: |
Nonsense. talent batti kadhani evadannadu? quota koncham ekkuvayi open category ki band kaani, people who clear are super talented. just bhatti patti UPSC clear avadamaaa? joke. and on the job training undadhani evadannadu? many of them take a lot of vocational training depending on interest and the departments they are posted in. many come to US as well after some seniority is achieved. open category IAS officers are some of the best in the world. bar none. | ||
Dhonifan Side Hero Username: Dhonifan Post Number: 8991 Registered: 12-2012 Posted From: 66.209.81.2 Rating: |
true | ||
Doosukelta Junior Artist Username: Doosukelta Post Number: 143 Registered: 04-2016 Posted From: 109.90.217.20 Rating: |
mana UPSC, IAS present pattern gurinchi cheptunte chala mandi shock avutunnar dutch,Germans etc..... what do you think ante it looks stupid antunnar.......their comments lo konni manchi visayalu 1)talent batti kakunda batti patti chadavatam meeda emphasis istunnar and danike value untadi 2)oka post ki requirements batti talent pool lonchi teeskovali kano senoarity batti position ante tappu 3)30-40 years oke post lo pettatam comedy 4)various departments like science, engg, innovation ki vati gurinchi yemee teliyani vadni decision making lo pettatam enti 5)any post must be fixed with govt .....oka sari oka govt elect ayite tanaki kavalsina intelligentia ni pettukuntadi with the change in govt the pool also changes ila rotate avutu undali ....but decision making process lo okkalle undatam valla no innovation, delay , incometancy vastundi..... inka chala chepparu but paivi koncham valid points anipinchayi....share your views...... |
