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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 04:04 pm:       


Onlytruth:

akkada maa school lo ne sadivina mukku sir unnadu so initial ga noise vachindhi, but ma school principal u have police i hav police ani merupu teega la react ayyi peddha punishment unna ph tapping case petti...chivariki asalu case kuda file avakunda chusadu..battery full on lo undabatte possible ammaa


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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 12:23 pm:       

what judge asked is valid point
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 12:19 pm:       


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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 08:50 am:       

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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 08:44 am:       


Kadapanagfan:



apologies edit kuda cheyanivadam ledhu
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 08:43 am:       


Kadapanagfan:



mistake OT ki select chesthe ni id vochindhi emi ti ?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 08:42 am:       


Kadapanagfan:

Swisss challenge antey ney u have to challenge for betttter Option




oho alaga ippudu ala kuda rastunara ?

AP development ki addupaduthunna court lu t360 lo article vesey !!
Rajasa yodha Rajasekhara Johar Johar
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 04:53 am:       


Marocharitra:

briefed me time lo merupu teega battery down aaaa... Addanga book ayipoyadu



akkada maa school lo ne sadivina mukku sir unnadu so initial ga noise vachindhi, but ma school principal u have police i hav police ani merupu teega la react ayyi peddha punishment unna ph tapping case petti...chivariki asalu case kuda file avakunda chusadu..battery full on lo undabatte possible ammaa
 

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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 12:43 am:       


Onlytruth:


ap govt lawyer : if we disclose the number , lets say Singapore companies will share 30% profits to ap govt , then competitors will do just 31% to beat sing companies. So, if we mask that 30% , then there is a chance new bidder may offer 40% share to govt which is 10% points profit to govt




Neee talakaya

Swisss challenge antey ney u have to challenge for betttter Option

Asalu percentages cheppakunda deni meedha challenge cheystadu aaaaadu

Bayapadaku judge kukkka denkul yetttina chandrannna manage cheysatdu

Incase theda vachina divisional bench ki vellli kotteyinchukuntaru lol
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 11:17 pm:       


Onlytruth:


that is CBN...merupu teega.....mercury.... repu judge gadu iche interim order obselete ayipoddhi kik


briefed me time lo merupu teega battery down aaaa... Addanga book ayipoyadu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 11:12 pm:       


Onlytruth:

court lo etuvanti teerpu rakundane edurudebba ani title jaffanands nayakudu kommineni gadu


lofar la favorite broker Gadi brokerjyothi lone raasaduga bendu Bob changed policy based on courts decision ani. Malli kommineni Gadi meedha yedupendhuku
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:59 pm:       

Ilanti transparency leni deals cheste, future lo badminton adukovalsi vasthundi. Judicial activism unna rojulu. Vote4Note lo la prathisari Modi kallu pattukunna work out avvaka povachchu. Be careful, Babanna.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:15 pm:       


Bharat:

single judge gaadu kanisam interim order ivvakundane CBN folded




that is CBN...merupu teega.....mercury.... repu judge gadu iche interim order obselete ayipoddhi kiki
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:13 pm:       

single judge gaadu kanisam interim order ivvakundane CBN folded.......judge ni jagan ni ante em labham
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:11 pm:       

Aditya vodu enduku petition vesaado naaku telvadu ......vere pedha companies evaru kuda bid veyyaru......vallaki telvadhaa etlagu ivvaru ani......indulo fight cheste vere projects kuda ivvaru ani muukunu untaru
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:10 pm:       

repu court lo final judgement mundhu vache interim judgement ki DB lo DLM elaa build cheyyala ani nenu build jestaa unte babanna saana fast unnadu..

govt revenue share ( bone of contention point) ye reveal jesestunnadu koooooooooooooo
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:09 pm:       

@ot

Please logically align the facts with ur argument...don't run all over the place

large scale construction margins will not have that much of variance in the profit margin...ur argument is preposterous and u r saying that AP government can't even calculate the viability of the project properly

On one hand u r saying that government is incapable of how much margin it can make and on the other hand what if govt loses a potential bidder


maku ee paradox enti? malla daniki capital letters, bold font, na pinda koodu
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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:08 pm:       


Bharat:

http://www.andhrajyothy.com/artical?SID=301153
maaku baaga loss ani vaadinchi, final decision rakundane reveal cheyyadniki oppukunna CBN......kaani arhulaki maatrame reveal chesthadanta......malli inko subjective criteria...evadanna poyi adigithe not eligible dngeyyi antadu guarantee ga





hhahahaha jai chandranna...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:08 pm:       


Bharat:

maaku baaga loss ani vaadinchi, final decision rakundane reveal cheyyadniki oppukunna CBN......kaani arhulaki maatrame reveal chesthadanta......malli inko subjective criteria...evadanna poyi adigithe not eligible dngeyyi antadu guarantee ga




Aditya constructions iythe alaane antaadu, L&T or shapoorji laanti worldclass vi iythe clear gaa cheptaadu....tappe mundi....
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:07 pm:       

Aggipidugu116 correct ga chepaadu.....idhi similar to GC process....vere evadu apply chesina raadhu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:07 pm:       

court lo etuvanti teerpu rakundane edurudebba ani title jaffanands nayakudu kommineni gadu

veenni contempt of court kindha pEdi mokham pagala denkali chillara gadu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:05 pm:       

http://www.andhrajyothy.com/artical?SID=301153
maaku baaga loss ani vaadinchi, final decision rakundane reveal cheyyadniki oppukunna CBN......kaani arhulaki maatrame reveal chesthadanta......malli inko subjective criteria...evadanna poyi adigithe not eligible dngeyyi antadu guarantee ga
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:05 pm:       

ee case interim aka madyantra uttharvu lo ee judge against ga istadu,then govt will submit full reasoning and final judgement lo dead veasy win

within highcourt


supreme daka kuda vellakkarledhu


ee lopu jaffanands mem cheppam mem cheppam courts are gods antaru

malli next day courts govt favor ivagane courts biased antaru


double tongue batch always
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:03 pm:       

Singapore current bid is "We will give 30% share to govt" ( random number of my assumption )

This number has been redacted by government

Competitor bidder(s) has a chance to offer "40% share to govt " in competing bid if govt hides the singapore company bid.


Competitor bidder(s) will begin at 31% if govt openly disclose original singapore offer of 30%


now, singapore company drops out

new bidder wins the bid at 31%
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:02 pm:       

capital construction is like

say I have 1000 square meters in Melbourne, One of the prestigious builders came to me saying they want build 3 town houses and they will keep one town house after the project is being finished. It is a valid proposal

a rough calculation 1000 square meters will be 1.5 million, to build 3 town houses it will be 800k and each town house will be sold for 1 million, I will make 500k profit and the builder will make 200k profit (assuming my mortgage on the property has been cleared ) ..

If the same builder wants to take loan on land of 3rd town house land (which should be around 300 sq m), simply it will eat away my profit margin as I will be liable to clear that loan in the end as I'm the title owner of the land (in this case 70% of 300k = 210k)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:01 pm:       

swiss challenge original lo disclose chestara? ikkada cheyaleda?

or swiss challenge lone disclose cheyyara?

in swiss challenge if you need to disclose and AP did not disclose then its govt's fault for not disclosing... as its none of their private business

asalu swiss challenge lo if they do not disclose to get good bid then what is wrong...it is saving money for its people only?

anyone know exact swiss challenge rules or we need to go to google?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:59 pm:       


Bharat:

Judges biased ga undaru ani neethi suthralu vallinchaaru kadha ....ippudu emayindhi




okka judge biased gaa vuntaadu...anduke division bench, supreme court division bench, supreme court full bench ani vuntaayi paina.....

High-court single judge court nunchi Supreme court daaka if AP govt loses this case, then we will agree that the mistake is with AP govt....
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:58 pm:       


Abhysg:

30% ni beat cheste chalu kada or put a min % to beat.. like 3-5% on top of last accepted bid




yeah 1% tho beat chesina chaalu...but what if he(new bidder) could afford 10% ?

SINGAPORE COMPANIES NO WAY GIVE SHARE beyond 30% anukundamu

we are hiding that 30%

Now COMPETITOR has a capacity to share 40%


kani 30% sing companies bid ani telisthe 31% ye vestaadu



then govt goes back to sing companies and say r u willing to do at 32% ...

Sing companies say NO



now competitor who had a capacity to do at 40% WINS the bid with 31% Share govt


govt loses 9% straight away


Judge ki antha simple point ardham kakapote ela ?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:56 pm:       


Lenin:

Most dangerous clause in capital construction is 'private partner can get the secured loan by showing the land as an asset'




Gujarat Gift city did the same, so also Navi Mumbai....this is not the first time people do this...Hyd Airport laantivi kooda kontha varaku ilaane capital tecchu kunnayi...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:54 pm:       


Abhysg:

Phedel anta kada.




no orders yet.... case vicharana lo undhi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:51 pm:       

@ Ram Ramesh

"Govt is using land as investment...irrelevent post..."


Land is also Govt property...imagine a situation, if by showing land as security Singapore govt gets the loan and for some reason if it leaves the project in the middle, it will be additional burden


asalu PPP anede picha puvvu model anduke...if u carefully look at the majority of PPP projects which boast posting profits, they are not simply operating profits...the principal loan amount will still be there, after some time which will be handed over to the government as a gift!

Most dangerous clause in capital construction is 'private partner can get the secured loan by showing the land as an asset'

Land belongs to government and people
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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:46 pm:       

Judges biased ga undaru ani neethi suthralu vallinchaaru kadha ....ippudu emayindhi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:46 pm:       

If Modi govt wants to take stringent measures on PPP by going with Kelkar's report, Swiss Challenge might get disappeared
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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:43 pm:       

of course capital construction is an exception, Govt's don't do this every day....this is not like a second grade minor irrigation project...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:40 pm:       


Onlytruth:

Lenin , simple discussion broader cheyaku .. Swiss challenge was supported by supreme court
Stick to the main and only point here




Quote from the article :
The erstwhile Planning Commission had, however, advised state governments to adopt the Swiss Challenge route as an exception rather than a rule. The Central Vigilance Commission still frowns on the method as it is suspicious of the potential for mischief.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:38 pm:       


Aggipidugu116:


manaki already 2 laksh crores appu.. so better 10000 crore tho 5000 acres lo katti mama anipinchandi.. organic ga grwoth avuntundi aa area as it is between gntr and vijwd..

govt pani kattukundi appu chesi ,,motham dabbulu anni 9 business districts development kosam vadatam ..democracy/capitalism anaru.. edo raju garu vari rajyam etc antaru.. kota kadutunnad antaru.




Swiss challenge loo appu ekkada vundhi? Govt is using land as investment...irrelevent post...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:37 pm:       


Abhysg:

Gurtukostunnayiiiii... gurtukostunnayiiiii... lala.lalalaaaaa..lallallaalll




ee video choosthe adhe gurtuku vasthaayi lee...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVaC_6Mzj7w

iyna 2 days division bench ki velle varaku....alpa santhosham kaaneyandi...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:37 pm:       

yee jagan batch inka enni cases esi apudham ani try chestharu?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:36 pm:       

Capital ante 4 buildings..with govt offices.. anthe kanee Banking ki Downtown kadata..Healthcare ki Home ni ista.. Telecommunication ki tower kadata...IT ki hub kadata.. good ee kanee india ki vunna pindi entha andulo andhra ki eppudu aku nakadame alavatu..delhi nunchi raavu.. polavaram ki payee..

manaki already 2 laksh crores appu.. so better 10000 crore tho 5000 acres lo katti mama anipinchandi.. organic ga grwoth avuntundi aa area as it is between gntr and vijwd..

govt pani kattukundi appu chesi ,,motham dabbulu anni 9 business districts development kosam vadatam ..democracy/capitalism anaru.. edo raju garu vari rajyam etc antaru.. kota kadutunnad antaru..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:35 pm:       


Abhysg:

Cheppakunda ela challenge chestaru? Feasible kakunte drop avutar kada




profits entho kooda cheppesthaara? inkaa challenge emundhi profit cheppesthe...divison bench loo Jaggad (ade Aditya) ki phedel phedel tappadu....
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:35 pm:       


Ramramesh:

Metta naa judge metta p analysis....




Ramramesh:

This Judge who is looking at this case had made some comments when he was employed as Jagan's lawyer in CBI cases...Looks at his comments and decide who is behind the case....




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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:33 pm:       


Maverick:

chepte inka challenge emundi?




Cheppakunda ela challenge chestaru? Feasible kakunte drop avutar kada
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:31 pm:       

koti petta..but dont like whats going on and today bob oka 2000 sq yards ichadu thats like 2 crores +Cash 3 crores to PV. Evadi abba sothu ani dhar adhattam chestunnadu...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:29 pm:       


Aggipidugu116:

Swiss challenge naaku mana GC process labour advertisement la vundi .. Enni applications mana post ki vachina kooda from usc/gc holders, our Hr/hiring manager can reject it saying some uzless logic .. Any logic for that matter




correct gaa cheppavu annai...naaku kuda ide anipinchindi...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:27 pm:       

oka bankrupt agency like Aditya constructions ki World wide famous agencies like Ascendas consortium ki comparison enti? Metta naa judge metta p analysis....
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:27 pm:       

chepte inka challenge emundi?
Happy Vizag
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:27 pm:       

Swiss challenge naaku mana GC process labour advertisement la vundi .. Enni applications mana post ki vachina kooda from usc/gc holders, our Hr/hiring manager can reject it saying some uzless logic .. Any logic for that matter
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:26 pm:       


Abhysg:


http://kommineni.info/articles/dailyarticles/content_2016082 4_11.php?p=1472001749687

Phedel anta kada... ochi maa pakkana koosondi..




bocchule Division bench ki velthaaru ee Jagan gaadi stooges peekedhi enti?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:25 pm:       

This Judge who is looking at this case had made some comments when he was employed as Jagan's lawyer in CBI cases...Looks at his comments and decide who is behind the case....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVaC_6Mzj7w
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:24 pm:       


Abhysg:




http://kommineni.info/articles/dailyarticles/content_2016082 4_11.php?p=1472001749687

Phedel anta kada... ochi maa pakkana koosondi..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 09:21 pm:       

Phedel

Onlytruth:

AP lawyer cheppe point : memu 30% ani disclose cheste 40% profit share ki i can do ani bid vese vadu 31% daggare modaledatadu beram




30% ni beat cheste chalu kada or put a min % to beat.. like 3-5% on top of last accepted bid... nuvvu disclose seyyakunte vadu 25% veste vadiki loss kada..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:47 pm:       


Lenin:

will examine the proposal submitted by private sector entity and if government finds it beneficial , then only it will examine every thing and will re negotiate with them to bring the best offer
that means, already govt will go through the skeleton survey and decides that this is the most beneficial proposal




Good point
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:41 pm:       

@ OT logic lo flaw

Swiss challenge lo revenue share ni disclose cheste govt will lose potential bids which will offer higher amount in revenue share

first of all, Govt will not select the party, but the will examine the proposal submitted by private sector entity and if government finds it beneficial , then only it will examine every thing and will re negotiate with them to bring the best offer


that means, already govt will go through the skeleton survey and decides that this is the most beneficial proposal...

you have questioned like, all the bids should be in competitive in nature...yes, bids should be competitive but the govt sets the bar here...who ever can cross that bar will bag the project

there will not be any loss for the govt, since it has examined the viability, execution every aspect
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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:34 pm:       

@ Ram Ramesh

Government can reject the highest bid for valid reasons...it's not compulsory that govt should pick the highest bidder
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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:31 pm:       


Ramramesh:

asalu qualifications leni aditya oodu vacchi nenu 50% revenue isthaaa antaadu?




i think govt set chese rules meet avvali kada qualify avvalante...if the bar is set by low by govt...any body can bid...i think they may have set some high standards to qualify...so gottam gallu andharu bid cheyaledruga..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:29 pm:       

OT what is the procedure to once after the govt has chosen a party?

have u gone through the guide lines of Swiss Challenge?

I'm pretty sure...b'coz swiss challenge comes under PPP...all the transactions and proposals should be disclosed to the public

what PPP advises in this regard?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:19 pm:       

ee shield cover concept ye comedy mana indian system lo ...what if govt leaked and pass that info to other competitors based on govt peddala wishes so they bid 1% higher and get project kada ...idi full scam ki kuda chance undi...better open bids....
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:15 pm:       


Onlytruth:

Regular tender process aitenemo Ring ayyi govt ni loot chestaru




...nuvvu cheppe tasmak bismak lo kuda alachestayi antava
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:13 pm:       

Regular tender process aitenemo Ring ayyi govt ni loot chestaru
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:12 pm:       

Please read the last 4 paragraphs in this article

http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/vinayak-cha tterjee-swiss-challenge-indian-style-115120701266_1.html
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:12 pm:       


Onlytruth:

AP lawyer cheppe point : memu 30% ani disclose cheste 40% profit share ki i can do ani bid vese vadu 31% daggare modaledatadu beram




wrong argument...otherway around kuda avvochu...andharu thakkuvaki vesi......govt can loose more as well
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:12 pm:       

definite gaa Jagan ee ee petition veyinchindhi...Aditya vaadiki veediki baane vunnayi contacts...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:10 pm:       

As per the article, petitioner also challenged the 'prior international experience' requirement.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:07 pm:       

31% bid vesthe vaadu gelavadu....original bidder dhaanni easy ga match chesthadu....okavela vaadiki govt cheppakapothec appudu 20% bid vesthademo, ...thelisi unte 35% vesevademo...appudu kuda govt will lose 5%.....ilaanti ofs & buts meedha govt bidding process unte etla
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:05 pm:       


Onlytruth:

UNO, i know what is swiss challenge model is


AP lawyer cheppe point : memu 30% ani disclose cheste 40% profit share ki i can do ani bid vese vadu 31% daggare modaledatadu beram


Straightforward we r losing 10 points



But it is not the essence of the swiss challenge model
In regular tenders too govt gives the estimates of the project that has been called for and the bidders will calculate their costs and submit the bids.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:03 pm:       

Ramramesh , gouravaneeya petipaksha netha gang vesina case le... Monna Abkprasad chetha veyisthe amaravati land pooling meedha ..kukka dengul tinnnaru supreme court chetilo .. Asalu nuvvemaina land ichaava pooka why did u file a case ani denkaru

Ippudu evado local builder chetha veyincharu capital bid ki against


Vallu ila Evry minute addu tagaladame subham
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:02 pm:       


Onlytruth:

AP lawyer cheppe point : memu 30% ani disclose cheste 40% profit share ki i can do ani bid vese vadu 31% daggare modaledatadu beram



Wrong argument.. How is it different from traditional sealed tenders?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:01 pm:       

UNO, i know what is swiss challenge model is


AP lawyer cheppe point : memu 30% ani disclose cheste 40% profit share ki i can do ani bid vese vadu 31% daggare modaledatadu beram


Straightforward we r losing 10 points
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:00 pm:       

asalu qualifications leni aditya oodu vacchi nenu 50% revenue isthaaa antaadu? vaddiki icxheyaala project? metta nayaallu metta logic...Technically qualified builders laanti L&T or Shaapoorji pallonji vallu write vesthe adoka andam chandam...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 08:00 pm:       

The most common systems that governments use to manage unsolicited proposals are commonly referred to as the “bonus system,” the “Swiss challenge system,” and the “best and final offer system.” Using a bonus system, the governments of Chile and Korea grant an advantage to the original project proponent in the form of a premium used in the bidding procedure. The “bonus,” usually between 5 percent and 10 percent, is credited to the original proponent’s bid in the open tender. The Swiss Challenge System—used in the Indian States of Andhra Pradesh and Gujarat, Italy, the Philippines, Taiwan, and the U.S. territory of Guam—also allows third parties to compete. However, the original proponent is granted the right to counter-match the best offer and secure the contract. The best and final offer system—used in Argentina and South Africa—is similar to the Swiss challenge in approach, but only grants the original proponent the advantage of automatically competing in the final tendering round.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 07:58 pm:       

Lenin , simple discussion broader cheyaku .. Swiss challenge was supported by supreme court


Stick to the main and only point here
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 07:57 pm:       

Govt division bench ki appeal cheyyocchu kadha? ee particular judge eppudu govts ki against gaand rule chestaadu...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 07:57 pm:       


Onlytruth:



What is the main feature of Swiss Challenge ?

Is it not out bidding the offer by other party who proposed it ?
If X company offered 30%,Y can out beat it by offering 35% and again X company can raise the bid by offering 36% + and So on..
It is reverse of regular tender
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 07:52 pm:       

Dr. Vijay Kelkar on Swiss Challenge

Unsolicited Proposals (“Swiss Challenge”) may be actively discouraged as they bring
information asymmetries into the procurement process and result in lack of
transparency and fair and equal treatment of potential bidders in the procurement
process
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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 07:52 pm:       

Better make open the revenue % as long as bid eligibility criteria is set properly. Singapore consortium will get a chance to make a competing offer if some one outbids.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 07:49 pm:       

Bharat


Redaction is only revenue share % num.


Dani badhulu sealed cover better antunnadu judge

Edaina okate kadha
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 07:44 pm:       

Revenue share okkate hide chesamu for so n so reason : ap.govt lawyer

http://epaper.eenadu.net/pdf/2016/08/24/20160824a_012135007. jpg
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 07:44 pm:       

Revenue sharing is just one aspect. There could be other concessions by goverment that will entice more bidders. Why are they not revealing the entire documents? ....Swiss challenge ani one year oodaragotti ippudu sannayi nokkulu enti
 

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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 07:39 pm:       

Case : Filed by some builder ( who wont even participate in the bid)

All other arguments of both parities insignificant

Amaravati bid docs lo sing companies how much revenue( profit) share provides back to AP govt anedi proprietary parameter kindha confidential annaru.

Petitioner : Revenue share how much cheppakunda how we can beat the bid ?

ap govt lawyer : if we disclose the number , lets say Singapore companies will share 30% profits to ap govt , then competitors will do just 31% to beat sing companies. So, if we mask that 30% , then there is a chance new bidder may offer 40% share to govt which is 10% points profit to govt


HC judge : no , sealed cover is better than this... this is not transperant

Friday interim orders, later govt response base chesukoni full pledged Vicharana


GOVT LOGIC correcte kadhaa... Y shud govt disclose the original bid amount when asking to beat it ?

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