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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2016 - 02:09 am:       

ee pakodi article chusinappudu naaku inko pakodi article gurtukochchindi...

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/upper-caste s-dominate-national-media-says-survey-in-delhi/article311511 3.ece

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/missing-from-the-indian -newsroom/article3294285.ece

By the way can any one bring me a statistic how many "dalits" are there in our army, navy and air force.. after all they are 16% of population..its their duty to protect this great nation..so they must be around 16%
 

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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2016 - 01:25 am:       

Judiciary should be accountable to democratic institutions .. andulo anumanam ledu .. justice hitler laga .. my word is final .. antamu ante dobbadu .. the people of the country should sit on the heads of these justices ..
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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2016 - 01:11 am:       


Inquisitive:

I am arguing that the judiciary should be independent




Yes, it should be independent. I'm not asking them to take orders from executive. But, who has the right to appoint judges in a democracy? I want a role for executive/legislative branches. There is definitely a danger of appointing ruling party cronies. Ultimately elections are a check on the elected representatives.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2016 - 12:44 am:       


Bharat:

You are making an argument that we don't trust our govt, so judges should make the appointments. If that is what you want then we there is no point in arguing



Not at all. I am arguing that the judiciary should be independent of the executive and should act as a check when the executive violates the constitution or doesn't do its job. Emergency was a classic example of when we needed an independent judiciary because the constitution was violated by the government. Unfortunately, the system you favour was prevalent then so the judiciary failed to rein in the unconstitutional action of the government.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2016 - 12:34 am:       


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You mean when SC failed to curtail a dictatorial PM who imposed emergency?




You are making an argument that we don't trust our govt, so judges should make the appointments. If that is what you want then we there is no point in arguing.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2016 - 12:33 am:       


Bharat:

Elected govt should make the appointments.



All the Central and State Ministers, CMs, PMs who manage bureaucrats to meet their nefarious ends by using the power of appointments and transfers would strongly agree with you. The few who don't indulge in such deeds with bureaucratic appointments/transfers may not be as enthused.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2016 - 12:30 am:       


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It has nothing to do with the caste angle.




Caste angle is a potent weapon to attack the present system........My point is about the undemocratic nature of collegium. Voters have no say in the present system. Elected govt should make the appointments.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2016 - 12:29 am:       


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mana desham lo kuda adhe jarigedhi before 80's



You mean when SC failed to curtail a dictatorial PM who imposed emergency? You mean when International media/organizations would rate independence of judiciary in India very poorly relative to now?
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2016 - 12:27 am:       


Bharat:

Diesel cars ban chese adhikaram evadu ichaadu veellaki? asalu veellu 10th class civics pass ayyaraa? IPL matches shift cheyadaniki veellu evaru? ee dhikkumalina judges 'merit' ane padaanike avamaanam.



So what do you propose to be the best way to reward and recognize merit in the appointments of judges?
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2016 - 12:27 am:       


Lolligadu:

you want a political party which is governing to do the appointments?






anni democraciies lo jarigedhi adhe....nenu edho kothagaa cheppincdhi kaadhu.....mana desham lo kuda adhe jarigedhi before 80's
 

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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2016 - 12:26 am:       


Bharat:

What SC/ST people can or cannot achieve in private sector is not my concern. Supreme Collegium is illegal. It is unconstitutional. Only Executive/Legislative branch should appoint judges like it happens in all the democracies. Just because they can, they have taken over the power of appointments.



The legality and constitutionality of the collegium system of appointments is a wholly different subject. It has nothing to do with the caste angle. If you agree that the caste angle in the article you shared is inappropriate and shouldn't have been written about then we can discuss the other issues about collegium system.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2016 - 12:23 am:       


Bharat:

Supreme Collegium is illegal. It is unconstitutional.


why is it unconstitutional???

what do you propose to be the better system than this....you want a political party which is governing to do the appointments? (respective blessings from the prez)

or You want them to undergo physical, written and interview

ban Krishna_jilla for being a TT
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 11:53 pm:       

Diesel cars ban chese adhikaram evadu ichaadu veellaki? asalu veellu 10th class civics pass ayyaraa? IPL matches shift cheyadaniki veellu evaru? ee dhikkumalina judges 'merit' ane padaanike avamaanam.
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 11:51 pm:       


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What SC/ST people can or cannot achieve in private sector is not my concern. Supreme Collegium is illegal. It is unconstitutional. Only Executive/Legislative branch should appoint judges like it happens in all the democracies. Just because they can, they have taken over the power of appointments.
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 11:46 pm:       


Bharat:

So they could not find one SC/ST supreme court judge on merit in six years? Even now, not even one High Court CJI is SC/ST.......Collegium is a corrupt mafia which has taken over the executive and legislative functions of India.


Collegium is shady and corrupt no doubt. But ee roju oka particular category leru .. so not a legitimate body anatam kuda correct kadu. However, last 10-15 years lo nenu chusina judiciary lo manchi judges very very few .. rest most of them bi-partisan thugs in black coats .. agreed!
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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 11:45 pm:       


Bharat:

o they could not find one SC/ST supreme court judge on merit in six years? Even now, not even one High Court CJI is SC/ST.......Collegium is a corrupt mafia which has taken over the executive and legislative functions of India.



First tell me if you agree/disagree with my observations on foreign universities and cricket teams and if you agree, what explains the nearly non-existent representation to SCs who comprise 16% of the population? Then I will answer you in detail.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 11:40 pm:       

Are you seriously comparing BCCI, CCDB with Supreme court?
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 11:39 pm:       

So they could not find one SC/ST supreme court judge on merit in six years? Even now, not even one High Court CJI is SC/ST.......Collegium is a corrupt mafia which has taken over the executive and legislative functions of India.
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 11:36 pm:       

The worst anti-dalit mafia of all are the admissions cells of foreign universities. I can challenge that in US, UK, Australia, and many other developed countries' universities, less than 1% of the Indian students are dalits. Unlike SC (where there are usually less than 30 judges at any given time), these countries have tens of thousands of indian students at any given time and yet you surely can't find even a hundred dalit students.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 11:33 pm:       

If you want to make such allegations against some entity, don't do it on the collegium that selects Supreme Court judges, do it on BCCI for giving grossly inadequate representation to SCs and STs since at least the 1975 world cup.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 11:31 pm:       


Bharat:

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/for- last-six-years-no-scheduled-caste-judge-sent-to-supreme-cour t-shortage-pending-cases-2825216/

No wonder they struck down NJAC bill.....they are behaving like a secret society.......No where in the world judges are appointed by fellow judges.




The SC collegium, albeit better than many other institutions in the country, appears to be biased towards Scheduled Castes. How can can one explain a corrupt man like K G Balakrishnan being made the CJI and then the Chairman of the NHRC? A similar person from OC would surely not have been considered for even the post of a High Court Additional Judge.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 11:29 pm:       


Bharat:

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/for- last-six-years-no-scheduled-caste-judge-sent-to-supreme-cour t-shortage-pending-cases-2825216/

No wonder they struck down NJAC bill.....they are behaving like a secret society.......No where in the world judges are appointed by fellow judges.



The quote under the headline was enough to put me off from reading the article! What a stupid statement!

"None of the current high court chief justices belong to the Scheduled Caste, which comprises over 16 per cent of the country’s population."

I want to make a counter quote on the moderators of this DB and call them a secret society and a mafia. "Farmers make the single largest section of Telugus as well as chalana chitra prekshakulu and yet in the last six years not one farmer has been accepted as a member on this DB.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 11:07 pm:       

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/for- last-six-years-no-scheduled-caste-judge-sent-to-supreme-cour t-shortage-pending-cases-2825216/

No wonder they struck down NJAC bill.....they are behaving like a secret society.......No where in the world judges are appointed by fellow judges.

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