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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 12:58 pm:       

author lol e caste ko kuda cheppu atta paduntadhi ...ON edho konchem leasure ga vunna a time lo so nee leg laagudhamani atta anamaata
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 12:47 pm:       


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caste is the most worst thing ever happened to human race..it is more dangerous, more disgusting in nature than AIDS, Cancer, Plague, sifilis, Ganeria, Leprocy etc..


care to explain ? how someone chooses to discriminate is their own prerogative and it is their own problem. humans are social animals. it is normal for people to intermingle with others inside their cultural and social margins. there are many divisions among humans - age, gender, class, language, religion, family etc. Caste is just another division. no less holy or more evil than any of the other divisions
In fact i think outside extreme side effects like un-touchability and political interferece, caste system is actually good. If all castes take care of each other in their own caste people it will act as a private charity net and there will be less need for government welfare. Deterioration of caste system can also mean deterioration of social system and marriage system
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 09:19 am:       


Ram1:




enti caste supporter va!! anta ginjukuntunnav?

ye religion lo kuda leni ee disgusting culture mana matham lo vundhi..ee shxt ni moyadam kuda proud ga feel ayye vaallu vundadam valle, ee rogam inka inka perigi potondhi..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 08:42 am:       

oho caste ki anni roopalu ithe mari prantheeyatah jatheeyatha evanni jasmine gubalimpuluni gulabi parimalaala ellellavoi i eat caste .i sleep caste , i wear caste kikiki ..btw nenu eroju SC ni annamaata my name is ram madhiga (j4f feel kaakandem sadaru casstte vollu voranna vunte )kikiki panikosthana postaneeki
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 08:37 am:       

Plz everybody post their caste in this thread before discussing any further...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 08:32 am:       

caste is the most worst thing ever happened to human race..it is more dangerous, more disgusting in nature than AIDS, Cancer, Plague, sifilis, Ganeria, Leprocy etc..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 08:15 am:       


Awara1984:

traces the rise of untouchability to somewhere between the 2nd and 6th centuries CE




around 500 AD is when rigid caste structures formed ani latest research. untouchability may have been a result of that.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 07:07 am:       


Tilak:

why? bcoz someone said it is to be read/followed?




Ledhu. Commies, Mayawati eppudoo manuvadam, manuvadam antante entaa adhi ani interest tho chadhivaa. Online lone dhorikindhi.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bz1OumJznV7ucmwyelNvQy1CcUU/ edit?pli=1
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 07:01 am:       


Poseidon:

Chadhivanu


why? bcoz someone said it is to be read/followed? do you have a link where i can read?
"We are Indians, firstly and lastly." - Dr. Bhimrao Ramji Ambedkar
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 07:00 am:       


Awara1984:

Dravida Nadu mana takshana karthavyam anedi conclusion


meeru bjp paksham ga...bjp is against dravida naadu and vow for smaller states with hindi/sanskrit as communication over entire India...

so, i can take it as satire :-) ...ok?
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 06:58 am:       


Tilak:

meeru chadivara bhayya?




Chadhivanu
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 06:49 am:       


Poseidon:

Classification clear gaa untadhi gaa andhulo?


meeru chadivara bhayya? nenu chadavaledu anduke asking!
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 06:18 am:       


Poseidon:




Dravida Nadu mana takshana karthavyam anedi conclusion
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 06:12 am:       

Thadu uddesam enti? Maaku emi sambhandham ledhu anaaaa ?

Manusmriti Hindu scripture enaa? Classification clear gaa untadhi gaa andhulo? Okka untouchability mention cheyyaledhu kabatti alles gut antaraa?
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 05:56 am:       

Ironically, this only strengthens HAF’s claims. Hindu tradition does indeed consider Valmiki and Vyasa as “Brahmins,” despite their birth among the “low castes” and on account of their conduct and achievements. SAFG’s claim would only be supported if both men were born Brahmins. The SAFG attempts to claim that Vyasa is a Brahmin because he was fathered (out of wedlock) by a Brahmin. But the very same Mahabharata treats Dhritarashtra, Pandu and Vidura, the three sons of Vyasa himself, as non-brahmins, two as kshatriyas and one as a shudra. A simplistic assertion of paternal lineage is inadequate to explain the complexities of the Hindu tradition. The Vedas also mention other rishis of non-brahmin origins, such as Kavasha-Ailusha (Rig Veda), Satyakama Jabala and Raikva (Chandogya Upanishad)
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 05:56 am:       

Even texts such as the Manusmriti make no mention of untouchability. In his book The Untouchables – Who were they, and why they became untouchables, Dr. B.R. Ambedkar clearly states that there was no untouchability in the time of Manu and traces the rise of untouchability to somewhere between the 2nd and 6th centuries CE, while the Rig Veda was composed no later than 1500 BCE. While acknowledging that Indian society, including its religious elites, undoubtedly practiced untouchability during the medieval period, there is simply no sanction for this practice in Hindu scripture, something the frameworks should acknowledge in the interest of accuracy.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 05:55 am:       

Contrary to SAFG and SAHFA’s claims that Hinduism’s sacred scriptures prescribe a birth-based caste system, there is actually direct evidence that caste was NOT based on birth.

The idea that different individuals of the same family can have different varnas and that individuals had a choice of varna are actually present in the Rig Veda itself, some examples of which can be found here. Even more powerful is the Vajrasuchi Upanishad. Dated by some sources as late as 8th century CE, is unique in that it addresses the single question - “Who is a Brahmin?” and proceeds to give an answer in stark contrast to the caste system as described by the SAFG.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 05:55 am:       

The SAFG’s latest submission clearly backpedals on the Rig Veda claims. They don’t explicitly say so, but in using the phrase “likely progenitor” instead of “contains evidence of a hierarchically organized society” they have effectively granted HAF’s position that a birth-based, hierarchical caste system is not present in the Rig Veda, something that I have argued in detail here. The caste system did indeed become hierarchical and based on family of birth, but that developed over many centuries, and is not intrinsic to the practice of Hinduism.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 05:53 am:       

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