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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 12:41 pm:       


Rocketk2:

did and I did not buy it. Hence my explanation why I thought Subramaniam Swamy motive could be.
The validity of news doesn't change with my political affiliations. i give a benefit of doubt to everyone but some reason I get accused of being Congres fan
I seriously believe IPC 's jurisprudence of 100 criminals may be acquitted but one innocent should not be punished



So the corruption took place in upa tenure and you feel that they could be innocent with so many checks and balances in place. There is not an iota of doubt that all the big players during the upa regime are involved and it could not have been done without the blessing of the superpm sonia..
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 10:58 am:       


Chanakya:

Teluguhero:
Congress never interfered in Agusta deal




Have To Protect Gandhis To Protect Myself: Agusta Middleman To NDTV

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/i-did-call-sonia-gandhi-drivi ng-force-in-agusta-deal-middleman-to-ndtv-1405490?pfrom=home -lateststories
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 10:18 am:       


Ideal_brain:


He said clearly that there is additional basis for her questioning..


he did and I did not buy it. Hence my explanation why I thought Subramaniam Swamy motive could be.
The validity of news doesn't change with my political affiliations. i give a benefit of doubt to everyone but some reason I get accused of being Congres fan :-)
I seriously believe IPC 's jurisprudence of 100 criminals may be acquitted but one innocent should not be punished
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 09:29 am:       


Rocketk2:

I watched Subramaniam Swamy interview with Karan couple of days back. Other than being confident and condescending, it did look like the only thing he has against in this episode is what Michel has said. Looks like he wants to use that as basis for further investigation. The sense I am getting from this whole episode is that SS(and our Tilak ) believes Sonia has some big skeletons in closet and by hook or crook if they can get an investigation going something will get exposed( worked in case of Clinton- lewinsky and several other scandals). I don't think even they' believe Sonia will be in trouble in this particular case
Is there merit to this case? It started out strong but looks like it's whittling out




He said clearly that there is additional basis for her questioning.. Either you are acting like Karan Thapar or may be you are a congi supporter.. Thapar behaved like an idiot in that show and kept on going in circles about the letter when he clearly explained that he has raised it to counter the statement of abhisek Manu singvi but the basis of investigating her was based on the references in the Italian court's judgement...Swamy also had spilled beans in the Rajdeep's show saying that ED should investigate the accounts of Sonia in Zurich and Geneva..when congi shut its mouth in rajyasabha what makes you believe that they are innocent?
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 09:04 am:       


Rocketk2:

Other than being confident and condescending, it did look like the only thing he has against in this episode is what Michel has said.




I dont think Subbu Swamy will reveal everything during Media interview/shows, especially when he despises them!

But its a long battle even if he has proof, if BJP cant show anything conclusive to public by 2019 elections. Congress will portray it as Witch hunting to gain sympathy, and public will surely buy it.
You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 08:57 am:       


Tilak:

she should be investigated and the truth should be out .. if she did no wrong .. will she be punished? no .. right? then why stall the investigation?



Investigation ki enough basis vundha ledha annade kadha main question...that is the reason I brought Clinton-lewinsky scandal. Afte spending 6 yrs and about 50 million dollars, Investigate Chesina vishayam lo Clinton was cleared for no wrong doing. Kaani as vishyam entha mandiki telusu.. All they remember is Lewinsky...

Anyway, I don't have a strong opinion one way or other. I believe Sonia has many sins but may not be in this particular case. I can sit on sidelines and watch :-)
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 08:41 am:       


Rocketk2:

elago oka laga investigation teesukosthe..


malli ade mata .. akkada clear ga guilt admit chesina vadu Sonia ni target cheyyalani cheppadu .. why should not her role be investigated?

Rocketk2:

And the same person at several other recorded statement gave contradictory accounts that exonerates Sonia kadha.. And is also on record saying he is being coerced to name Sonia..


more reasons why she should be investigated and the truth should be out .. if she did no wrong .. will she be punished? no .. right? then why stall the investigation?
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 08:39 am:       

When asked about his comments that they played no part in the controversy, Michel told the channel, "I have to protect the Gandhis to protect myself," and added, "I have to prove they are innocent to prove my innocence." ///



ee oka line chalu aadu pacchi abadhhalu aaduthunnadu to save himself ani thane ceppukuntunnadu
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 08:35 am:       


Tilak:

antha avasaram ledu


definitely, I agree. I was just talking in reference to this case only.. Not in general and nothing else.. Meant elago oka Voka Laga ani :-)..
The point I was trying to make is elago oka laga investigation teesukosthe.. Idi kakpoyina something else will get exposed seems to be the strategy ..

Ee case lo other than that mention, inka emundhi. And the same person at several other recorded statement gave contradictory accounts that exonerates Sonia kadha.. And is also on record saying he is being coerced to name Sonia..
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 08:33 am:       


Onlytruth:

modi is driving force now


jaggad is driving force in his illegal assets case...is he scammer ani Q esuko...answer neeke thelusthadhi
as of date...N family looks labor than Mega family.... - Onlytruth
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 08:32 am:       

//
. all it needs is one fair investigation ..
//

2 years over , no investigation

mari enduku talking when you cant walk the talk
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 08:31 am:       

OT annee vadilesi open ga pizza LM kosam poraadadam chaalaa santhostham ga undhi
as of date...N family looks labor than Mega family.... - Onlytruth
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 08:30 am:       

modi is driving force now


if someone states that , is that a scam ?
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 08:27 am:       


Rocketk2:

hook or crook


antha avasaram ledu .. every scam .. every legal response lo .. what is her team's response choosina vadu evadikaina ardam avutundi .. all it needs is one fair investigation ..
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 08:26 am:       

sonia is driving force in decision making and we need to target her coterie to influence her decision annaadhi summary


pepancham lo ye court lonu technical ga morale ga sonia ki sambandham unnattu kaaadhu



tyagi or sonia advisors if they took money should be prosecuted
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 08:21 am:       

Wonderful play on words..
Middleman Christian Michel admits Sonia as 'driving force'
And
Middleman Christian Michel admits describing congress president Sonia as 'driving force'

So What exactly did he admit to???

I watched Subramaniam Swamy interview with Karan couple of days back. Other than being confident and condescending, it did look like the only thing he has against in this episode is what Michel has said. Looks like he wants to use that as basis for further investigation. The sense I am getting from this whole episode is that SS(and our Tilak :-)) believes Sonia has some big skeletons in closet and by hook or crook if they can get an investigation going something will get exposed( worked in case of Clinton- lewinsky and several other scandals). I don't think even they' believe Sonia will be in trouble in this particular case
Is there merit to this case? It started out strong but looks like it's whittling out
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 08:02 am:       

//
Further, he stood by his earlier claim that Prime Minister Narendra Modi had met his Italian counterpart in New York last year and had offered to release two Italian marines imprisoned in India in exchange for information about the VVIP chopper deal
//
Political mileage is more important than National Security anna maata

malli vachhi we think INDIA wise ani cheppukuntaru
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 08:00 am:       

//
UN judgement italy marine ki favour ga ochindi ani release chesaru kada? idem dealing mari?
//
views and flow changes by how the wind blows

monnatid aka Malya meeda case ledu anduke Vellanichhau annadu
ninna CBI booked a case on him elast year annadu
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 07:54 am:       


Teluguhero:

had offered to release two Italian marines imprisoned in India in exchange for information about the VVIP chopper deal.




UN judgement italy marine ki favour ga ochindi ani release chesaru kada? idem dealing mari?
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 07:52 am:       


Teluguhero:

he did describe Congress president Sonia Gandhi in a letter as 'the driving force' of the decision



Teluguhero:

Congress never interfered in Agusta deal



You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 07:42 am:       

http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/agustawestland-deal-midd leman-christian-michel-admits-describing-congress-president- sonia-gandhi-as-the-driving-force_1884487.html

AgustaWestland deal: Middleman Christian Michel admits describing Congress president Sonia Gandhi as the 'driving force'

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Delhi: Christian Michel James, the alleged middleman in the controversial AgustaWestland chopper deal, has said that in 2008 he did describe Congress president Sonia Gandhi in a letter as 'the driving force' of the decision to acquire new helicopters when her party was in power.

In an interview to NDTV, Michel also said that he does not personally know either Sonia or her son, Rahul.

However, he maintained that his written suggestion that they be lobbied by diplomats does not mean bribes were paid to them.

When asked about his comments that they played no part in the controversy, Michel told the channel, "I have to protect the Gandhis to protect myself," and added, "I have to prove they are innocent to prove my innocence."

Further, he stood by his earlier claim that Prime Minister Narendra Modi had met his Italian counterpart in New York last year and had offered to release two Italian marines imprisoned in India in exchange for information about the VVIP chopper deal.

Meanwhile, in an interview to another channel yesterday, Michel had said that the only person related to Agusta that he ever met was former IAF chief Colonel SP Tyagi.

In an interview to India Today TV, Michel had also said that he had never met Sonia or former PM Manmohan Singh.

He had told the TV channel, "No, never. I have never met Sonia Gandhi. Never met Manmohan Singh or AK Antony. Congress never interfered in Agusta deal. I avoid meeting leaders, my expertise is implementation."

However, he had added, "I probably met ex-Air chief SP Tyagi in Gymkhana club. Met Tyagi and others and I wasn't keen on them. I was introduced to Julie Tyagi as a powerful industrialist. Julie is a very nice man. He didn't promise me of any deal. I was very nervous of them. I think Tyagi was used as a tool for Haschke to get inside AgustaWestland. I don't think he can play any major role."

Michel is one of three alleged middlemen whom the Indian investigating agencies suspect to have brokered the VVIP chopper deal in favour of UK-based AgustaWestland.

Both Central Bureau of Investigation and ED have notified Michel under the Interpol Red Corner Notice.

The controversial deal and the alleged bribes to the tune of Rs 120 crore paid in clinching it for AgustaWestland, a subsidiary of Italian defence giant Finmeccanica, has triggered a political slugfest between BJP and Congress.

CBI and ED have also questioned Tyagi in connection with the deal.

CBI had in 2013 registered a case in connection with alleged bribes paid by the firm to Indians to clinch the deal.

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