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Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 01:12 am:       


Vjavasi:

endho nee liqudidity theory....banks vunnade liquidity create cheyyataniki.....Indian banking system ni paina koorchunna vallau sarigga vadakapothe....vaati tappu kaadhu



liquidity creation endi, adantha retail theory for now.

we need $xxx billion right now over 36 months as capex at cheap cost to build infra. mana banks deggara antha liquidity ledu immediately and low terms ki mana debt cost recovery avvadu, infact divala teestaru.

ippudu mana center/ state plan chesina large projects anni initial years lo topline pedhaga undadhu, will not have any free cash to pay interest/repayment atleast for 5-10 years.. ilanti projects mana banks fund cheste ethukuntai..

there is a method to madness, thats why cheap foreign loans
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 11:39 pm:       


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newstoday: pramukha kathak dancer palva potnaik ki gundepotu...thrutilo thappina pramadham.





 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 09:18 pm:       

aa lekkana vibhjana chattam lo ivvalsina dabbulu ivvamanu
appudu ee appulenduku
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 07:40 pm:       


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Man bank lu Malya , Adani laki icchi inka emi vundi





100 mandi mallyas vunna emi kaadhu if banks don't stop lending and government+central bank supports them
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 07:31 pm:       

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Indian banks emaipoyiniyi?...loans ivvam annara?......Indian banks lo interest rates kaavali ekkuva vuchatam....foreigners ki dochi pettatam nadustundhi//

Man bank lu Malya , Adani laki icchi inka emi vundi
Chakka ga UK pamparu ga Malya gaadini

vine vallu vunte emina cheputaru
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 07:15 pm:       

Vjavasu have apoint and i agree but modi doesn't want to fund the project. Cbn has to do whatevere to get the priject executed
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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 06:59 pm:       


Theaviator:

Do you know how liquidity we need to develop a country like India? how much our banks can afford





endho nee liqudidity theory....banks vunnade liquidity create cheyyataniki.....Indian banking system ni paina koorchunna vallau sarigga vadakapothe....vaati tappu kaadhu
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 06:46 pm:       


Stellar:

Ee loan next 10 years pay cheyakkarledu. Ee lopu rupee appreciate ayithe benefit kada (highly doubt scenario anuko)





yeah benefit ee purchase power parity exchange rate ki appreciate aithe benefit ee....but annichotla itlanti loans to eppatiki appreciate avvadhu.....these loans themselves create demand for foreign currency against Indian currency
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 06:39 pm:       


Vjavasi:




Ee loan next 10 years pay cheyakkarledu. Ee lopu rupee appreciate ayithe benefit kada (highly doubt scenario anuko)
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 06:39 pm:       


Stellar:

Are you suggesting country or business entity should not take foreign loans even when u r getting loan at good interest rate?





Foreign loans that support technology enhancement can be taken, avasaram lekunda foreign loans pedda bokka even if they come at zero interest

Indian foreign debt is now 400 billion dollars, Foreign investment in Indian markets around $ 350 billion dollars....forex reserves matuku just $350 billion dollars....already vuchulo vunnam....full dopidi jarugutundhi
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 06:36 pm:       


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hedging ante, rupee perigithe manaki nashtam antaav






idhi ekkada annanu? ....naa saramsam enti ante....foreign loans valla ruppee further padipotundhi......even at current exchange hedge chesinaa net loss ee.....enduku ante current exchange rate ee already depreciated anamaata........i am telling the same point in two different scenarios
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 06:31 pm:       


Vjavasi:




Are you suggesting country or business entity should not take foreign loans even when u r getting loan at good interest rate?
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 06:31 pm:       

Vasi....mundhu emoo foreign currency kabatti manaki nashtam annav rupee padipothundi ani....hedging ante, rupee perigithe manaki nashtam antaav....both sides nuvve batting cheyyi....migatha vallu endhuku
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 06:26 pm:       


Stellar:

Rupee appreciate ayithe manchidega loan teesukunte






In a fair trade environment Indian rupee has to be exchanged at RS20 against dollar according to purchase power parity....The current exchange rate is RS65.....hedging at this value on a foreign loan means you would end up paying RS65 per dollar for the next 3-4 decades when rupee has huge potential to appreciate....Infact these kind of loans cumulatively keep rupee undermined forever as they enhance demand for foreign currency to repay loans..The net effect is rupee sinks further and there would be net continuous drain of real wealth with undervalued currency
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 06:18 pm:       

Rupee appreciate ayithe manchidega loan teesukunte
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 06:16 pm:       


Vjavasi:

Indian rupee may well appreciate




 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 06:15 pm:       


Vjavasi:



Do you know how liquidity we need to develop a country like India? how much our banks can afford
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 06:00 pm:       


Theaviator:

em cheptunnavo asalu ardham avtunda..






malli chaduvu ardham avutundhi......sookshmam idhi....at the current exchange rate rupee is much undervalued.....hedging on the basis of it for next 30-40 years itself is a big loss
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 05:55 pm:       


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em cheptunnavo asalu ardham avtunda..

We are taking loan for fund requirement equal to today's exchange rate, which is spent in 12-18m as capex in project.
Once hedged at almost same rate for a premium for interest and repayments over life of project.. What risk and loss are you talking about..

Indian banks terms comparison chusava asalu.. Urban infra projects not viable at those terms..
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 05:45 pm:       


Theaviator:

Spread ni hedge chestaru for exchange risk.. Net effect is 6.0-6.5% INR interest..






enti hedge chesedhi ....current exchange itself is a big loss, hedging on the basis of it is just carrying this loss for next 30-40 years when Indian rupee may well appreciate. right now Indian rupee is exchanged at less than one-third value...so these kind of unnecessary foreign loans at large scale would ensure Indian rupee remains undervalued for next 50 years

Bullet train ki justified as technology new to India, not for Metros...whether it is Modi or BOB foreign loans are a loss to national wealth
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 05:14 pm:       


Vjavasi:

foreign currency loan and indian currency loan are like chalk and cheese, foreign currency loan ante just interest maatrame lekka kaadhu, exchange rate kooda choodali .




Selfie PM gari mumbai-ah'bad bullet train ki Japan loan marchipoyi esesi natunnaru..
Japan loan package backed by EPC order for japanese consortium..
Terms as follows..
loan component: $12 billion
repayment terms: 0.1%
moratorium: 15-year
repayment period: 50-year

Delhi Metro and Chennai Metro projects had 30-year repayment tenor with interest rate of 1.2% and 1.4% respectively, with 10-year moratorium period on repayment.

Funds for dedicated freight corridor is at 0.2% interest and 40 years repayment, with 1 year moratorium.

Spread ni hedge chestaru for exchange risk.. Net effect is 6.0-6.5% INR interest..

Indian banks terms ila untai..
Interest: 10.5-12%
Repayment: up to 15-year
Moratorium: 1-year

Indian banks ni nammukunte.. Selfie pose lu ichu kunta tiragalsi vastadi modi. 2019 ki selfie stick okkate miguludhi..
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 04:47 pm:       


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Time hospital daggara metro stop ni matram marchoddu... Akkade unchu..
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:52 pm:       


Farmer:

oho...modi gadu isthe valla daggara adukkovalsina kharma enti...bifurcation bill prakaram vjy and vizag metro cheyyali central govt....emi chesadu....vizag metro ki mushti moodu lakshalu esadu....madichi vaadi gujju g lo ettali...bob will complete vjy and vizag metros with jica funding

amma pettadhu, adukku thinanivvadhu annattu vundhi vyavaharam....





Modi em chesadu cheyyaledhu meedha kadhu kadha Dr....my point limited to metro ki foreign loan avsarama kaadha varake...poni bullet train ante tech kaavali avasaram anukovachu....metro ki anavasaram....tappu Indian monetary policy lo ne vundhi....BOB okkadini blame cheyyatla ikkada
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:44 pm:       


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oho...modi gadu isthe valla daggara adukkovalsina kharma enti...bifurcation bill prakaram vjy and vizag metro cheyyali central govt....emi chesadu....vizag metro ki mushti moodu lakshalu esadu....madichi vaadi gujju g lo ettali...bob will complete vjy and vizag metros with jica funding

amma pettadhu, adukku thinanivvadhu annattu vundhi vyavaharam....
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:40 pm:       


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babu...nuvvu matter chadhavakunda endhuku dance esthunnav...JICA vadu iche loan terms ni evadoo match cheyyaledu...0.3% interest rate...30 years to repay....first 10 yrs no payment.....it is as good as a grant....japan lo vunde negative interest rates kante idhi better vallaki...manaki bumper mein jumper deal





foreign currency loan and indian currency loan are like chalk and cheese, foreign currency loan ante just interest maatrame lekka kaadhu, exchange rate kooda choodali ....it's a way to permanently enslave indian currency at the current exchange levels or worse...if this loan is in rupees then it's an advantage for the metro and country....if it's in Japanese currency then it's an unnecessary burden.....Metro tech India dagagra vundh....even if interest is higher in India, the money paid on interest somehow benefits India only......not the case with a Foreign currency loan
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:33 pm:       


Vjavasi:



9 billion peti fighter jets konnaru anta kadha france degara nunchi .. epudu evadi meda ki war ki pothunaru ..
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:32 pm:       


Vjavasi:


Indian banks emaipoyiniyi?...loans ivvam annara?......Indian banks lo interest rates kaavali ekkuva vuchatam....foreigners ki dochi pettatam nadustundhi


babu...nuvvu matter chadhavakunda endhuku dance esthunnav...JICA vadu iche loan terms ni evadoo match cheyyaledu...0.3% interest rate...30 years to repay....first 10 yrs no payment.....it is as good as a grant....japan lo vunde negative interest rates kante idhi better vallaki...manaki bumper mein jumper deal
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:31 pm:       


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manaki ipuud metro avasarama ledaaa anavasaram....




metro avasaram lekapovatam endhi vaya

Technically I oppose but Heartfully I accept - Pulp
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:30 pm:       

maa vizak daggara vunna 3 lakhs rupees metro funds thos vijayawada work start cheyyandi..
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:29 pm:       


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0.30 ki isthunaru loan.. central govt degara money ledhu kadha..





Indian banks emaipoyiniyi?...loans ivvam annara?......Indian banks lo interest rates kaavali ekkuva vuchatam....foreigners ki dochi pettatam nadustundhi
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:27 pm:       

kummu admin kummu..manaki ipuud metro avasarama ledaaa anavasaram....election dabbulanni lagandi deenemma
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:26 pm:       

newstoday: pramukha kathak dancer palva potnaik ki gundepotu...thrutilo thappina pramadham.
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:24 pm:       


Vjavasi:

metro ki kooda Japan nundi foreign loan aa...idhi chala silly



0.30 ki isthunaru loan.. central govt degara money ledhu kadha..
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:23 pm:       

metro ki kooda Japan nundi foreign loan aa...idhi chala silly
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:22 pm:       

babu ok 500c release chesthay inka fast ga start chesukovachu work...
 

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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:19 pm:       

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Vijayawada/rs-4200cr-jic a-loan-for-amaravati-metro/article8477418.ece

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