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Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6483 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.45.104.119 Rating: N/A |
ee time ki idi cheyaali.. idi jarigipovaali... aney perception animals ki sambandham ledu kaabatti... yelaa anipisthey alaa chesthaayi.. yelaa kaavaali ante alaa vuntaayi.... life or death, hungry or chex.. mood and moment... anthey!!! "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6482 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.45.104.119 Rating: N/A |
okka incident is life-changing antaaru... but that is not true... series of incidents is what matters... oka incident meeda over time perception maarindi ante.. the next series of incidents will be the cause... probablity... determinism.. reality.. we are going into Butterfly Effect... "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Tilak Legend Username: Tilak Post Number: 38624 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 59.189.216.76 Rating: N/A |
bhale vaadivi le .. may be we did not realize that they keep time .. anthe tappa .. sambandam ledu ani ela decide chestaav? ninna uncomfortable anipinchina event, same person ki ivaala comfortable anipisthe .. what changed? except time and perception? "We are Indians, firstly and lastly." - Dr. Bhimrao Ramji Ambedkar | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6480 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.45.104.119 Rating: N/A |
comfort ni minchina success inketdi? every incident.. success ayyindi ante, effect is comfortable.. failure ayithe... effect is not so comfortable.. alaa ani life aagipodu... preparation for next incident begins... so success is relative to self, not time, in the holistic perception of a series of incidents... Time is a measurement factor... only Humans have realized... Animals ki time toh sambandham vundadu... their comfortable situations are limited... success-factors vundav... ippudu humans are social-animals, with a sense of time... so comfort has eventually become a social-pressure, than a self-indulgence... actors, sports-men getting written-off etc... "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Tilak Legend Username: Tilak Post Number: 38623 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 59.189.216.76 Rating: N/A |
life lo success is relative to time .. so what was a failure once may seem as success today and again failure tomorrow?? "We are Indians, firstly and lastly." - Dr. Bhimrao Ramji Ambedkar | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6479 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.45.104.119 Rating: N/A |
Probability vs Determinism vs Reality.. All three are based of - Cause and Effect scenarios.. oka MS Dhoni, oka SSRM, oka Shah Rukh Khan laanti successful feeful ni adigithey correct gaa cheppagalaremo... Dhoni saar vaadu... field lo strategy vesthey.. more chances to work-out and win, than betting, or the strategy failing.. SSRM hit movies success-ratio all on none... comedy, romance forte ne kaadu.. best director or not, tanaki telisinantha lo movie hit elaa cheyaalo... all three - probabliity, determinism and reality telisinodu... SRK saar vaad... 26 year old kurrod... I will Rule Bombay some day ani Marine Drive Bombay lo arichinod... time-and-again, failures, flops, written-off ayinaa... come-backs seskuntaa vachhaad... Chaala diversifications try chesaad.. IPL Kolkata team, Red Chlllies entertainment, all went bankrupt almost... still struggling and surviving at top position... How.. ask him and he might tell you probablity, determinism and reality... Mana varaku mana life lo jaragaboye incidents predict cheskuno, imagine cheskuno, manaki comfortable side steer cheskogalige stamina, skills vunte, improve cheskone opportunities, capacity create cheskogaligithey... all of this is probability and determinism... and most important realistic in nature!!! General lot ki trends elaa vuntaayi... how can anybody say and predict anything even precisely, at such a grander scale... "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Tilak Legend Username: Tilak Post Number: 38617 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 59.189.216.76 Rating: N/A |
Ofcourse .. to a certain extent!! "We are Indians, firstly and lastly." - Dr. Bhimrao Ramji Ambedkar | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 697 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 103.5.134.163 Rating: N/A |
then God is deterministic.. it is nothing but a process which can be influenced. | ||
Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 52576 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 63.79.91.19 Rating: N/A |
i got your point now. i think they believe in 2 possible futures - default and altered. if they know the default future, they can alter it with the help of god. | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 696 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 103.5.134.163 Rating: N/A |
ok.... anyway entropy is disorderliness.....  I think the problem is regarding predictability... | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 694 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 103.5.134.163 Rating: N/A |
jyotishyam requires the reality to be predictable right...there is no say for God in this business.... it is deterministic.... | ||
Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 52574 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 63.79.91.19 Rating: N/A |
yes. Cocanada in that thread seems to be convinced with that idea | ||
Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 52573 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 63.79.91.19 Rating: N/A |
anthe kada. if I believe that i am in control and i am the master of my destiny, i will not believe in god. If I believe in randomness, I understand that I do not have control and hence easier to surrender to God PS: 'jyotisha' is the science of time keeping. it is different from astrology. | ||
Saarang Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 11867 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.180.76 Rating: N/A |
Randomness comes because we cannot/do not care to measure every factor that determines an event. | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 693 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 103.5.134.163 Rating: N/A |
thx.. i missed this ... does entropy cause nondeterminism!!! btw... life has negentropy... "what is life" by Irvin Schrodinger is interesting .. | ||
Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 52571 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 63.79.91.19 Rating: N/A |
'Cocanada' in that thread seems to be much more knowledgeable than me.  Thanks for sharing. Naa mind ki edo ayyi poorti ga dobbindi ani ardham ayindi | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 692 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 103.5.134.163 Rating: N/A |
any takes on this...!!! | ||
Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 52569 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 63.79.91.19 Rating: N/A |
found some thing relevant http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/69695.htm l | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 691 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 103.5.134.163 Rating: N/A |
long time ago.. i initiated a similar thread.. on randomness http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/67691.htm l | ||
Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 52568 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 63.79.91.19 Rating: N/A |
this DB 'Der_Schuler' and 'Dts' were major contributors. Will try to search. hold on | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 690 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 103.5.134.163 Rating: N/A |
where?? | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 689 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 103.5.134.163 Rating: N/A |
quantuam mechanics | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 688 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 103.5.134.163 Rating: N/A |
how can we say that its truely random... i know that with the current understanding it seems random... we could not figure out the pattern yet... may be we can never... mmm.... this is the problem of induction i think... | ||
Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 52565 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 63.79.91.19 Rating: N/A |
discussed this topic few years ago. not everything can be calculated even if you are a super computer with all the data available to you ani decide chesaaru one example given was radio active decay which is truly random. | ||
Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 15511 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.29.163.248 Rating: N/A |
Probability is just a euphemism for unknown/unexplored....Universe looks probabilistic in parts which is at the level of our existence but as a whole it may be deterministic or probabilistic depending on the free will of the whole | ||
Masularex Side Hero Username: Masularex Post Number: 6221 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 49.15.85.182 Rating: N/A |
QM ante ? | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 687 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 103.5.134.163 Rating: N/A |
in smiliar lines... jytoishyam Vs God, how are they compatible!!! most of the people who believe in Jyotishyam seem believers. | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 686 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 103.5.134.163 Rating: N/A |
All the events in the universe are supposedly governed by low level physical laws. With this view the unpredictability could be due to the difficulty or lack of computing power or lack of information. that said, is probability compatible with determinism or science. How does it get reconciled!? Does probability really exist or really make sense!? What predictive value does it have!!? I do/can not talk about QM . |