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Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 07:32 am:       


Bharateeyudu:

But same historians cant believe that ramayana happend 12 lakhs years ago




mee belief 12 lakh years back ?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 05:09 am:       

Dr. S.R Rao proposed a decipherment of Indus valley script by using old dravidian languages... which shows that there is continuation between Indus valley and rest of the India.. that same Indus valley guys moved eastern india due to saraswathi river going underground.

He claimed that pottery etc, are same technique as oldest pottery found in present north india...

2) he claims that there are no temples/statues... but there are fire pits (homam) so vedas talk alot about homam than temples... and so there are no temples but only Homams

3) there is one symbol he proposes relates to Shiva.. where a person is standing around lot of animals... pasupathi.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 05:02 am:       

Well this is the challenge.
1. prove indus valley civilization relates to vedic age. (no statues, temples etc)
2. prove indus script relates to early sanskrit

without these 2 we cannot link indus valley to vedic times.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 04:51 am:       


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comedy emante .. kadupu lo kullu tho Hindu epics ni .. "myth"ology ani name chesina .. comrade-historians mata credible anukovadam ..

anyways .. the same commie-historians who calculated the approx timelines of Ramayana/Mahabharata .. when it comes to Ayodhya/Kashi/Mathura disputes ask for proof of Rama/Krishna/Shiva! agenda kakapothe enti? LOL
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Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 04:44 am:       


Tilak:

Mahabharatam daka ok .. but Ramayanam lekkalu pure agenda or fiction!




Well said..its agenda.. of lefts..infact they argue that ramayana happened after Mahabharata .citing ramayana happened in ayodhya..and mahabharta happened in Kurukshetra..

asalu historians cheppinadi..6000 BC kaadu..if any one read Romila thapar or bipin chandra they say its 1100 BC.. There is no doubt about time about mahabharata for historian because our itihasa dates and their dates matches.. Kaliyuga started with the death of krishna..it happened 5000 years ago..which means some where around 3000 BC..since historians could get data of it..they correlated and said mahabharata happened..5000 years ago..

But same historians cant believe that ramayana happend 12 lakhs years ago..because it is something they cant prove..hence its a trash and they decided a date..based on migration because of mythical aryan invasion etc..

..Gabbarsingh releasse aina taruvaata...time chusi new threads start chestaa. caste in gupta empire.. and Ramayana time period..indus valley civilisation..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 12:42 am:       


Ruj:

ramayanam ki widely accepted date is ~5000-6000BC..ramayanam ki date predictions mostly is done based on astronomical events and calculations.


Mahabharatam daka ok .. but Ramayanam lekkalu pure agenda or fiction!
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Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 12:35 am:       


Starc:

they might have gone to different planet in different milky way




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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 11:41 am:       

ice age ki mundu earth mida different civilization unnadi ani nenu real ga believe chestanu.

they might have gone to different planet in different milky way becoz iceage.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 11:36 am:       

ilanti thread SGS time lo raavatam chaala bad....I want to write a lot...asalu evarina pattinchukuntaaro ledo kudaa doubt.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 11:33 am:       

evaru vallu? ema lekkal?<<<<


don't remember details to be honest..its been very long time..kaani vague ga gurthu unnadhi..


ramayanam ki widely accepted date is ~5000-6000BC..ramayanam ki date predictions mostly is done based on astronomical events and calculations.


mahabharatki widely accepted date ~3000BC , kondharu ~5000BC ani kooda antar..mahabharatam predictionski astronomy tho patu geologists, arachelogosits, historians info kooda undi due to availability of sites..

mahabharat date prediction aryabhatta nundi mana BB lal varaku sana mandhi chesaru...
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 11:07 am:       


Stellar:

human life max on earth 200K years.


Every yugantam lo continents shift avutayi, tsunamis vostayi... Batiki miginila vaallu life lead chestaru aa previous human race stories cheppukontu... May be we will find traces of those times here and there

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 10:41 am:       


Ruj:

historians and archaeologists say..


evaru vallu? ema lekkal?
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 10:40 am:       


Ruj:

as per historians Ramayana around 5000BC..mahabharata around 3500BC..few say 1500BC too...




ee lekka believable ga vundi. aa 800,000 years enti. nammakam vunnodiki kuda pothadi aa number chusthe,
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 10:28 am:       


Chanakya:




1 gen = 22.5 yrs.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 10:28 am:       

kaliyuga starting lo vunnam so 2000 +864,000( dwaparayuga)+thretayuga last lo anukunna = ~866000 years back...<<<


as per historians Ramayana around 5000BC..mahabharata around 3500BC..few say 1500BC too...


ee dwapara yugam thretha yugam lekkalu puranalalo unnadhi vaalu ee sandhrabham lo elanti measurement esi chepparo teliyadu..so will go by what historians and archaeologists say..}
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 10:24 am:       


Tilak:

200 years ante around 7-8 generations raja .. not 2!!




okay, nenu min (100) teesukunna. meeru max 200 teesukunnaru :D so if drought was 100years 4 generations? i guess then saraswathi river becoming completely extinct might have made harappan cities permanently inhabitant!
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 10:22 am:       


Rajin:

866000 years back



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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 10:20 am:       


Rajin:

~866000 years back...




human life max on earth 200K years.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 10:16 am:       


Stellar:

ante ramayanam jarigindi exact ga enni years back annattu?



kaliyuga starting lo vunnam so 2000 +864,000( dwaparayuga)+thretayuga last lo anukunna = ~866000 years back...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 10:14 am:       


Rajin:

the Kali-yuga, is 1,200 x 360, or 432,000 years in total.




ante ramayanam jarigindi exact ga enni years back annattu?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 10:04 am:       


Chanakya:

drought ended after hundred years, at max 2 generations!


200 years ante around 7-8 generations raja .. not 2!!
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 09:18 am:       


Emc2:

can we find any traces to ramayana time?

what is the time frame ramayana happend



TretÄ-yuga is 3,600 x 360, or 1,296,000 years. DvÄpara-yuga is 2,400 x 360, or 864,000 years. the Kali-yuga, is 1,200 x 360, or 432,000 years in total.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 09:17 am:       


Awara1984:

few reports say saraswati was cut off from its initial point (glacier) so dried up or changed its route




logically that might be the case. so Harappan ppl should have migrated to ganges which gets filled by glacier again! that doesnt look a huge migration to be frank! Why was Harappan cities totally evacuated & ignored if drought ended after hundred years, at max 2 generations! 3rd generation malli harappan ni inhabit enduku cheyyaledo.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 07:59 am:       

can we find any traces to ramayana time?

what is the time frame ramayana happend
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 07:52 am:       


Kindal:

150 years taravata world will be water world ani konta mandi experts cheptunnaru.




emo bhayya ninna HBO lo vice oka episode chusa. danlo inko 50 years lo fresh water antha ipotadi including underground. we will be treating water as if we are treating oil now ani cheptunnadu.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 03:56 am:       


Chanakya:




change in climate across the world

article lo migilina civilizations kuda ade time lo impact ayyayi annaru kabatti

climate changes might have happened

few reports say saraswati was cut off from its initial point (glacier) so dried up or changed its route and it is the current yamuna
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 02:09 am:       


Awara1984:

Moved towards ganges and yamuna which are perennial as they emerge from the glacier anukunta




that was my initial thought....... but article says the drought was very wide spread and over a century. How did Ganges survived but Saraswati did not? Himalayas vallana? hmm asalu appudu anta drought enduku ochindo annade big question mark.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 02:03 am:       

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalibangan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakhigarhi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banawali

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitathal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupnagar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dholavira

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baror

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karanpura

So many sites we have in India .. which can solve the mystery

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http://geology.gsapubs.org/content/early/2014/02/24/G35236.1 .full.pdf+html

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 01:49 am:       


Chanakya:




Moved towards ganges and yamuna which are perennial as they emerge from the glacier anukunta
 

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 01:42 am:       

Good thread.

May be the same drought also dried up River Saraswati, which was supposed to flow parallel to River Sindhu. Majestic history became mystic history!
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 01:35 am:       


Kindal:

150 years taravata world will be water world ani konta mandi experts cheptunnaru.




and still we will survive :D floating restaurants are becoming reality
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 01:33 am:       

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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 01:13 am:       

200 years of drought ah!!!! ipudu climatic chaos ki industrialization & modern ways reason anochu but 4000-4200 years ago anta long duration drought endho!

Also anta widespread drought unte, where did Harrappan ppl migrate to?
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 12:29 am:       

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/200-year-drought-d oomed-indus-valley-civilization/?wt.mc=SA_Twitter-Share

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