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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 10:05 am:       

saraina officer dorikithe aa case lu ee case lu petti lopala unchochu.but case establish chesi prove cheyyadaaniki pakka evidences kaavali.

bail isthe influence chesthadanni powerful cbi organisation(head pm, supreme court ku kuuda head pm) lopala unchagaladu.

verdict ivvadaaniki solid evidences kaavali

asalu jagan case lo chaala vaatiki charge sheets quid and pro meeda kaadu.

50% ku quid and pro base ledhu (either itis wrong information, didn't give updates about progress, other investment organisation irregularities to invest, after 2009 investment cases)

case lithe pettagaligaaru with interest of government, kaani idi just investment case and have clear cut transactions, if base is only quid and pro no hope to establish cbi.

investment is not bribe to apply quid and pro. anduke annesi chargesheetlu pettaru. 2 lorry files for evidences

also based on court order cbi shown interest on this case, cbi office also safe however they misused charge sheets
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 02:15 am:       

http://indiankanoon.org/doc/183369852/
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 02:14 am:       


Saint:

emi establish cheyyakundane 15 months chippakudu thinipincharu antara




There is circumstantial evidence kadha anduke arrest chesaru. INka vunchatamu anedhi courts are giving additional time for investigation agencies to complete thier investigation.

jagan case lo delay ki reason multiple companies ni investigate cheyyatamu, konni case lo foreign regulatory sources nunchi information kosamu waiting.

COmplete details ee link lo vunnayi. courts frst gave sept, then may 2013 and sep/oct 3 times extension for CBI to complete thier investigation.

question is did jagan or any of his sccused men contacted and made them invest in money. if you cant prove that there is communiation between the parties on investments and resulting quid quid pro GOs, there will be no supplemental evidence.

there is no law barring investing in CM son companies while working under govt contracts
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:59 am:       


Saint:

emi establish cheyyakundane 15 months chippakudu thinipincharu antara? sariina officer okadu thagilithe su su poyisthadu...




Jagan ni control lo techukodaniki lopala pettaru..You don't have to agree with me but naaku telisa lotus pond political close observer cheppindi

If you see reasons given for not giving bail...They always said will influence witnesses...2014 election appudu release ayithey witnesses ni influence seyyaraa?

Assalu Jagan ki bail enduku icharu? Dheeniki reason vethuku...Appudu Jail lo enduku pettaro anna daaniki answer vastundi
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:56 am:       


Saint:

ante YSJ ki YSR father kaadu antavu? YSJ road meda poye danayya antavu anthena?




LAW mundhu road meda poye danayya

Nannu YSR belt tho kottadu, anduke bangalore lo undi family ni raise chestunna antadu....

Ikkada YSR kick back money, antey black money teesokoni YSJ peru meedha pettina case kaadhu (like chagan bhujbal)
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:55 am:       


Jaijagananna:


Adhey Saint garu, ilantivi ESTABLISH cheyatam kashtam...favors evaru icharu? cabinet. Oka vela YSR ichadu ani anna, YSR is not alive. Ela establish cestaru andi? Basically, how will you establish that India cements got favors? How will you define favor?




emi establish cheyyakundane 15 months chippakudu thinipincharu antara? sariina officer okadu thagilithe su su poyisthadu...delhi lo alla kallu, illa kallu pattukunte cases weak chesi vadileyochu! and jarigedi kooda ade!
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:54 am:       


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ki ki ki....atta pettakudadu bangaru...its gross misuse of CM offie..anduke 14 months chippakudu thinipincharu!! anthaku mundu jananini/law ki bayapadi binamis meeda pette vallu......ippudu YSJ case lo free ayyadu anukoo, future lo CM ina pethodu naa istam...ani addagoluga pandikukkulaga janam meeda padatharu ..appudu sammaga vuntadi neeku aa janiniki!!




Adhey Saint garu, ilantivi ESTABLISH cheyatam kashtam...favors evaru icharu? cabinet. Oka vela YSR ichadu ani anna, YSR is not alive. Ela establish cestaru andi? Basically, how will you establish that India cements got favors? How will you define favor?
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:51 am:       


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major difference...chagan bhujbal was in power...Jagan was not

YSR was in power...Jagan was not...Jagan is a simple private citizen until 2009....Jagan will even say that I will not return money and seek time frame if he has to return...




ante YSJ ki YSR father kaadu antavu? YSJ road meda poye danayya antavu anthena?
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:50 am:       


Jaijagananna:


alagey bayataki vastadu ani antunnam Saint garu

business acumen investment pettinodi istam, pettinchukunnodi istam, manakenduku andi




ki ki ki....atta pettakudadu bangaru...its gross misuse of CM offie..anduke 14 months chippakudu thinipincharu!! anthaku mundu jananini/law ki bayapadi binamis meeda pette vallu......ippudu YSJ case lo free ayyadu anukoo, future lo CM ina pethodu naa istam...ani addagoluga pandikukkulaga janam meeda padatharu ..appudu sammaga vuntadi neeku aa janiniki!!
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:49 am:       


Onlytruth:

chagan bhujbal ki seppu nee logic




major difference...chagan bhujbal was in power...Jagan was not

YSR was in power...Jagan was not...Jagan is a simple private citizen until 2009....Jagan will even say that I will not return money and seek time frame if he has to return...
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:44 am:       


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chagan bhujbal ki seppu nee logic
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:43 am:       


Saint:

so ala YSJ bayata padochu!!




alagey bayataki vastadu ani antunnam Saint garu

business acumen investment pettinodi istam, pettinchukunnodi istam, manakenduku andi
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:42 am:       


Jaijagananna:

oka pan dabba vaadi meedha 1000 crores invest chestaa, naa istam




atleast Jagan case lo 1956 companies act kabatti CBI vicharana chesthunnaru. Ippudu cheyyoddu, 2013 act prekaram ila cheste vicharana kooda undadu. It is illegal to invest whatever amount you want on a company... you need to clearly show where and how the invested money will be used.

Yes I know this is stupid but thats the law today. Ilanti dakota naa shit gallantha chese VP panula valla regular gaa clean business chese vallaki ee kastalu
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:33 am:       


Jai_ycp:

Other than circumstantial evidence, there is no direct link where Jagan or his men coerced or threatened or bribed the investors to invest in theirs. We have 1 statement from a guy whom was supposed to be talked by ysr in private. I don't think it carries value As ysr is dead and there is no other evidence.

Key is what does court think of? Judge based on circumstantial evidence or quashes it due to lack of supporting evidence anedhi chudali




direct evidence aa? YSJ lo emi choosi ee companies vallu YSJ companies lo invest chesaru? in return what benefits they got from government.

intha clear ga quid pro quo vunte, inka evidence ledu anatam comedy!!!

but India lo courts ni judges ni manage chesi bayata padatam kothemi kaadu....so ala YSJ bayata padochu!! anthe gaani evidence ledu/YSJ business accumen choosi invest lanti comedies vaddu amma!!
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:31 am:       

Other than circumstantial evidence, there is no direct link where Jagan or his men coerced or threatened or bribed the investors to invest in theirs. We have 1 statement from a guy whom was supposed to be talked by ysr in private. I don't think it carries value As ysr is dead and there is no other evidence.

Key is what does court think of? Judge based on circumstantial evidence or quashes it due to lack of supporting evidence anedhi chudali
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:28 am:       


Ramramesh:

one whose existence was due to bribes




How will you prove they are bribes? Fresh ga dabba terichi koorchinte 1000 crores invest seyyakudadhu ani rule undhaa?....oka pan dabba vaadi meedha 1000 crores invest chestaa, naa istam
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:26 am:       


Ramramesh:

so comparing India cements and Sakshi is a very dumb thing...one with decades of history and one whose existence was due to bribes...




Adhey anna...ela prove sestaru?...dabbulu vachinavi companies ki vachayi...personal ga raledhu...

pettina vallu pettinam antunnaru...teesukunna vallu teesukunnam antunnaru...

ippudu pettina vallu company decision ani release avutunnaru...

teesukunna vallu kooda...they approached us, we made agreement antaru...

Ikkada dabbulu ela vachayo kanipetti [money took or not] seppey bribery issue kaadhu....pettina dabbulu enduku pettaru [intent] ni question chestunnaru...adhi chala subjective issue...Naaku mood ochindi pettina antaru, time padithey
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:21 am:       


Jaijagananna:

andhuke cheppa...pothey maa vijaya sai garu inko 2 years potharu ani (since he is the accountant who oversaw the process)




India cements has been an established company for decades...So, it's not surprising that Srinivasan had no personal stake as it is a public limited company...

the very reason for existence of Sakshi was a result of funds from India cements and Indu and Nimmagadda....

so comparing India cements and Sakshi is a very dumb thing...one with decades of history and one whose existence was due to bribes...
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:20 am:       


Jaijagananna:

Investments kooda alagey evado dikkumalinodu invest chestey, promoter ga naaku emi sambandam antaru...same logic


anduke .. promoter ki full knowledge tho ne scam jarigindi ani prove chestaru court lo public prosecutors! will be very difficult to disprove for anyone.
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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:18 am:       


Onlytruth:

ykapas uneducated ani telusu gani intha UN aa ? sare kaniyyandi




koncham counter argue chesi conclusion rayandi...chillaraga generalize chesi ETV reporter la behave seyyaku
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:16 am:       


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ykapas uneducated ani telusu gani intha UN aa ? sare kaniyyandi
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:16 am:       


Wellsfargo:

srinivasan gaadu personal capacity lo ela involved ani mathrame quash chesindi...




Investments kooda alagey evado dikkumalinodu invest chestey, promoter ga naaku emi sambandam antaru...same logic
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:15 am:       


Wellsfargo:

akkada avineethi jaragaledu, jagan nirdoshi lantivi ekkada unnayi... srinivasan gaadu personal capacity lo ela involved ani mathrame quash chesindi...




vaadu invest chesindi kooda company loney....sakshi lo or jagathi lo...Jagan compound lo kaadhu

andhuke cheppa...pothey maa vijaya sai garu inko 2 years potharu ani (since he is the accountant who oversaw the process)
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:12 am:       


Jaijagananna:




Brother. aa news article chadivava or just headline choosava or deeni sakshi translation choosava.

akkada avineethi jaragaledu, jagan nirdoshi lantivi ekkada unnayi... srinivasan gaadu personal capacity lo ela involved ani mathrame quash chesindi...
 

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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2016 - 01:08 am:       

http://m.thehindu.com/news/national/hyderabad-high-court-qua shes-criminal-proceedings-against-india-cements-vicechairman -and-md-n-srinivasan/article8371351.ece


Band Bajaa Baarat...CBI meedha 5000 crores paruvu nastam...Mark this post

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