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Chirupower
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Post Number: 2595 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 173.67.203.27
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 10:33 pm: |
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Arabs kanna ekkuva contribute chesindhi ancient indians like Aaryabhatta,Charaka,Susrutha,Brahmagupta,Bhaskaracharya etc.. Mari manam endhuku thaggali. Science pakkana pedithe antha sampadha unchukuni kooda E arabs kaneesam saati pedha muslim countries ki kooda chesindhi chaala thakkuva. |
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Chirupower
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Post Number: 2593 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 173.67.203.27
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 10:28 pm: |
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modern science matuku christian/islam inspired science ee>>>> Vaatini reject chesthu vachina kottha knowledge ye science ayyindhi. Galileo best example. |
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Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 5733 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 68.128.164.114
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 02:36 pm: |
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Vjavasi:ike? the word mathematics itself has christian theological origins...it came out with an obsession about perfect laws of god governing universe....The philosophical origins of modern science is christian as the clergy men wanted to understand perfect laws imposed by god on universe Nothing starts from vaccume in any culture or religion, there is always continuity, it was christian clergy men who borrowed from Greek civilization, Arabs and vastly expanded the knowledge base of modern science
as it is ga tiragesi rasukondi. pre-christian, pre-greek sciences were developed , pagan culture(anything that was not greek or christian was denoted as pagan). Christianity borrowed very heavily from happenings around itself and so was greek civilization. So to attribute development of sciences to any one region is not right. Human evolution was aided by science that was prevalent at that time / In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Vjavasi
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Post Number: 15458 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 01:59 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:and the method of science, are anti-thesis of religious texts as they do not fall under these methods.
like? the word mathematics itself has christian theological origins...it came out with an obsession about perfect laws of god governing universe....The philosophical origins of modern science is christian as the clergy men wanted to understand perfect laws imposed by god on universe Nothing starts from vaccume in any culture or religion, there is always continuity, it was christian clergy men who borrowed from Greek civilization, Arabs and vastly expanded the knowledge base of modern science |
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Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 18462 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 209.60.166.146
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 01:52 pm: |
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anyway last post in this thread . any thing rooted in science cannot claim that its the final truth. If any books are scientific in nature, they are supposed to be editable, if not they fail the first test. anyone who says they are the truth, and claim they are fooling themselves |
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Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 18461 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 209.60.166.146
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 01:47 pm: |
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Vjavasi:Hindu science ki antha moolam vedalu ayyinappudu.....christian, islamic science ki moolam bible, koran enduku avvakoodadhu.....vedallo science vundho ledho telavadhu kaani....modern science matuku christian/islam inspired science ee
is this supposed to be a deduction? |
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Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 18460 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 209.60.166.146
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 01:46 pm: |
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Vjavasi:Basic foundations for modern science were laid by many christian clergy men
vunkl, Basic foundations are rooted in much earlier civilizations. the philosophy behind "Science", and the method of science, are anti-thesis of religious texts as they do not fall under these methods. if a few religious people made scientific contributions, it is not because of the their religion, unless the source is the religion they believe in. anyone who argues against does not understand what science is. its like saying if i touch fire, my skin burns. so do not touch fire is science. |
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Vjavasi
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Post Number: 15457 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 01:44 pm: |
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Hindu science ki antha moolam vedalu ayyinappudu.....christian, islamic science ki moolam bible, koran enduku avvakoodadhu.....vedallo science vundho ledho telavadhu kaani....modern science matuku christian/islam inspired science ee |
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Okahyderabadi
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Post Number: 5731 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 68.128.164.114
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 01:35 pm: |
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Vjavasi:
 In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
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Vjavasi
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Post Number: 15456 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 01:34 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:Its like attributing nuclear physics developments to Bible.
Basic foundations for modern science were laid by many christian clergy men |
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Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 18458 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 209.60.166.146
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 01:19 pm: |
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article has many half truths. ippudu vopika ledhu. anyway - the point to be noted here is the scientific cotributions are not due to Islam - its about few folks intellectual contribution. Its like attributing nuclear physics developments to Bible. Anyway not saying Arabs did nothing. Islam and Arab are not the same, Arabic civilization did not start with Islam. Anyway, even in the article although the author mentions that almost everything they did has basis in other cultures, somehow potrays that they enhanced things significantly. |
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Rajusk
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Post Number: 45670 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.248.19
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 12:57 pm: |
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Vjavasi:A 100 years old American history book written by an American has the following passages on Arab civilization MATHEMATICS AND ASTRONOMY
andulo manavi vaallu vallavi ani seppukoni sale chesi untar kada  |
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Vjavasi
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Post Number: 15455 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 97.81.110.128
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This is the authors's comment on Arabs The great Moslem cities of Bagdad, Damascus, Cairo, and Cordova were not only seats of government for the different divisions of the Arabian Empire; they were also the centers of Arabian civilization. The conquests of the Arabs had brought them into contact with highly developed peoples whose culture they absorbed and to some extent improved. They owed most to Persia and, after Persia, to Greece, through the empire at Constantinople, In their hands there was somewhat the same fusion of East and West as Alexander the Great had sought to accomplish. [23] Greek science and philosophy mingled with the arts of Persia and other Oriental lands. Arabian civilization, for about four centuries under the Ommiad and Abbasid caliphs, far surpassed anything to be found in western Europe. |
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Chanakya
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Post Number: 2885 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 183.82.72.36
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Ye civilization ki aina past brambandanga untadi but current situation is more important n relevant You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist. ~Friedrich Nietzsche |
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Vjavasi
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Post Number: 15454 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 97.81.110.128
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Arabs have hugely contributed to modern maths, alzebra,algorithm all these are words with arabic roots....they have contributed to modern medicine A 100 years old American history book written by an American has the following passages on Arab civilization ' AGRICULTURE Many improvements in agriculture were due to the Arabs. They had a good system of irrigation, practiced rotation of crops, employed fertilizers, and understood how to graft and produce new varieties of plants and fruits. From the Arabs we have received cotton, flax, hemp, buckwheat, rice, sugar cane, and coffee, various vegetables, including asparagus, artichokes, and beans, and such fruits as melons, oranges, lemons, apricots, and plums. MANUFACTURING The Arabs excelled in various manufactures. Damascus was famous for its brocades, tapestries, and blades of tempered steel. The Moorish cities in Spain had also their special productions: Cordova, leather; Toledo, armor; and Granada, rich silks. Arab craftsmen taught the Venetians to make crystal and plate glass. The work of Arab potters and weavers was at once the admiration and despair of its imitators in western Europe. The Arabs knew the secrets of dyeing and they made a kind of paper. Their textile fabrics and articles of metal were distinguished for beauty of design and perfection of workmanship. European peoples during the early Middle Ages received the greater part of their manufactured articles of luxury through the Arabs. [24] COMMERCE The products of Arab farms and workshops were carried far and wide throughout medieval lands. The Arabs were keen merchants, and Mohammed had expressly encouraged commerce by declaring it agreeable to God. The Arabs traded with India, China, the East Indies (Java and Sumatra), the interior of Africa, Russia, and even with the Baltic lands. Bagdad, which commanded both land and water routes, was the chief center of this commerce, but other cities of western Asia, North Africa, and Spain shared in its advantages. The bazaar, or merchants' quarter, was found in every Moslem city. GEOGRAPHICAL KNOWLEDGE The trade of the Arabs, their wide conquests, and their religious pilgrimages to Mecca vastly increased their knowledge of the world. They were the best geographers of the Middle Ages. An Abbasid caliph, the son of Harun-al-Rashid, had the Greek Geography of Ptolemy [25] translated into Arabic and enriched the work with illuminated maps. Arab scholars compiled encyclopedias describing foreign countries and peoples, constructed celestial spheres, and measured closely the arc of the meridian in order to calculate the size of the earth. There is some reason to believe that the mariner's compass was first introduced into Europe by the Arabs. The geographical knowledge of Christian peoples during the Middle Ages owed much, indeed, to their Moslem forerunners. EDUCATION Schools and universities flourished in Moslem lands when Christian Europe was still in the "Dark Ages." The largest institution of learning was at Cairo, where the lectures of the professors were attended by thousands of students. Famous universities also existed in Bagdad and Cordova. Moslem scholars especially delighted in the study of philosophy. Arabic translations of Aristotle's [26] writings made the ideas of that great thinker familiar to the students of western Europe, where the knowledge of Greek had all but died out. The Arabs also formed extensive libraries of many thousands of manuscripts, all carefully arranged and catalogued. Their libraries and universities, especially in Spain, were visited by many Christians, who thus became acquainted with Moslem learning and helped to introduce it into Europe. CHEMISTRY AND MEDICINE The Arabs have been considered to be the founders of modern experimental science. They were relatively skillful chemists, for they discovered a number of new compounds (such as alcohol, aqua regia, nitric acid, and corrosive sublimate) and understood the preparation of mercury and of various oxides of metals. In medicine the Arabs based their investigations on those of the Greeks, [27] but made many additional contributions to the art of healing. They studied physiology and hygiene, dissected the human body, performed difficult surgical operations, used anaesthetics, and wrote treatises on such diseases as measles and smallpox. Arab medicine and surgery were studied by the Christian peoples of Europe throughout the later period of the Middle Ages. MATHEMATICS AND ASTRONOMY The Arabs had a strong taste for mathematics. Here again they carried further the old Greek investigations. In arithmetic they used the so- called "Arabic" figures, which were probably borrowed from India. The Arabic numerals gradually supplanted in western Europe the awkward Roman numerals. In geometry the Arabs added little to Euclid, but algebra is practically their creation. An Arabic treatise on algebra long formed the textbook of the subject in the universities of Christian Europe. Spherical trigonometry and conic sections are Arabic inventions. This mathematical knowledge enabled the Arabs to make considerable progress in astronomy. Observatories at Bagdad and Damascus were erected as early as the ninth century. Some of the astronomical instruments which they constructed, including the sextant and the gnomon, are still in use. [28] ROMANCE AND POETRY In prose and verse there are two Moslem productions which have attained wide popularity in European lands. The first work is the Thousand and One Nights, a collection of tales written in Arabic and describing life and manners at the court of the Abbasids. The book, as we now have it, seems to have been composed as late as the fifteenth century, but it borrows much from earlier Arabic sources. Many of the tales are of Indian or Persian origin, but all have a thoroughly Moslem coloring. The second work is the Rubáiyát of the astronomer-poet of Persia, Omar Khayyam, who wrote about the beginning of the twelfth century. His Rubáiyát is a little volume of quatrains, about five hundred in all, distinguished for wit, satirical power, and a vein of melancholy, sometimes pensive, sometimes passionate. These characteristics of Omar's poetry have made it widely known in the western world. [29] ARCHITECTURE Painting and sculpture owe little to the Arabs, but their architecture, based in part on Byzantine and Persian models, reached a high level of excellence. Swelling domes, vaulted roofs, arched porches, tall and graceful minarets, and the exquisite decorative patterns known as "arabesques" make many Arab buildings miracles of beauty. Glazed tiles, mosaics, and jeweled glass were extensively used for ornamentation. From the first the Arab builders adopted the pointed arch; they introduced it into western Europe; and it became a characteristic feature of Gothic cathedrals. [30] Among the best-known of Arab buildings are the so-called "Mosque of Omar" at Jerusalem, [31] the Great Mosque of Cordova, and that architectural gem, the Alhambra at Granada. Many features of Moorish art were taken over by the Spaniards, who reproduced them in the cathedrals and missions of Mexico and California. |
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