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Tilak
Legend Username: Tilak
Post Number: 37744 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 116.51.10.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2016 - 05:34 am: |
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Manusmriti is a much-maligned text. which is easier to burn than read. There are many texts which have comparable or even worse views on social hierarchy or the ill-treatment of women. Of course you cannot burn them, because their adherents will really strike back. So Manusmriti is very safe, even a comfortable text to burn as it is not really sacred to anyone. But, as I said, burning is easy, but reading, especially reading with critical understanding, textual rigour, and methodological responsibility is much, much harder. Because if you read the Manavadharmashastra in this fashion, you would also find many worthwhile things in it, including statements supporting the equality, respect, protection, and satisfaction of women. But, then, your whole case would collapse; the text would be cease to "wholly evil . Much easier simply to brand it and burn it, than really to read it carefully or engage with it or critique it. No one is supporting the social order that it propounds; likewise, some great Greek philosophers were themselves slave owners as were the founders of the American republic, including Thomas Jefferson who famously said, "We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal.  Many holy books also endorse slavery, including the taking of women and children of defeated enemies as chattel. Do we burn these books? Sloganeering and politicking are easy; producing good academic work much harder. Similar, a beef festival is relatively easy to organise in India, but try to organise a pork festival let alone in a a Muslim-majority country, but even right here, whether in Srinigar, Hyderabad, Kolkata, or even JNU. So you see much of this "progressive  rabble-rousing is meant to attack, offend, even divide one section of society, even one religious community, while looking the other way at the faults of others. Remember how the Left Front government in West Bengal drove out Taslima Nasrin at the behest of the Mullahs? Where was their "secularism" then? Come on, isn't a selective and partial advocacy of for or against a particular religious community how communalism is defined in the first place?
PS - I have never read Manusmriti. 99% National - 1% Glocal |
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Awara1984
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Post Number: 5507 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 125.16.29.3
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2016 - 04:27 am: |
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http://www.firstpost.com/india/sedition-debate-in-two-open-l etters-jnu-professors-paranjape-and-datta-debate-kanhaiyas-9 -feb-speech-2667554.html |
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Tilak
Legend Username: Tilak
Post Number: 37734 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 116.51.10.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2016 - 03:54 am: |
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Awara1984:But the groups we are speaking of will never be satisfied. Why? But they want an intolerable situation, one in which the pot is always kept on the boil, so to speak.
I like his answer and understand his reasoning as well. I think Modi and his govt have been too soft in handling these roaches. The govt should have arrested the rest of those idiots also who took part in those events. And hunt down the handlers of these people and show that the govt will handle anti-nationals with an iron hand. And no, these people are not "dissenters", these people are plain anti-nationals who are hell bent on breaking/disadvantaging the nation by pointing a gun at Freedom of Speech! 99% National - 1% Glocal |
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Awara1984
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Post Number: 5506 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 125.16.29.3
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2016 - 03:34 am: |
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http://scroll.in/article/804548/why-putting-less-mughal-hist ory-in-school-textbooks-might-not-be-a-bad-idea |
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Awara1984
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Post Number: 5505 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 125.16.29.3
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2016 - 03:29 am: |
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This sort of inflammatory rhetoric that emanates from JNU might be entertaining to some, but will prove counter-productive because it is the same government from which they are constantly looking for handouts. They are asking for a raise in scholarships and other benefits, while fees have been static for so long. On the one hand, you are taking from a particular system and on the other hand, you are abusing the same system. This is a strange kind of polemic where there is no acknowledgment of what the system is giving, there is no appreciation, only endless abuse. It baffles me completely. |
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Awara1984
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Post Number: 5504 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 125.16.29.3
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2016 - 03:28 am: |
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First answer itself is brilliant One shouldn't pinpoint anyone without concrete evidence. That's why I don't want to think it as a "conspiracy", but it does seems the case that there are sections of our own intelligentsia and academia whom you may call "brokers of backwardness". These people seem to benefit from creating bipolar opposites and divisions in society, then positioning themselves as the vanguard or forefront of such oppositional politics. Surely some are beneficiaries of this strategy. You can hold a system to ransom, then claim your rewards for backing down. In the management school case studies, there are documented cases, I am told, of people with nuisance value getting more from an organisation than those who cooperate or are submissive. Even in school, you see the bully gets her way till she is beaten back by someone else. So by threatening to leave or break up something, people do extract benefits. Even in family, spoilers who threaten to break the family will draw many efforts from elders to appease their demands, even if these are found to be unjust. So this could be both human psychology or a well thought-out strategy to extract as much as possible from a system by constantly creating disaffection. Of course, this does not mean that some people - some sections of society - do not have genuine grievances. But they often participate in a process to have these demands met, then give up their agitation. But the groups we are speaking of will never be satisfied. Why? But they want an intolerable situation, one in which the pot is always kept on the boil, so to speak. |
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Awara1984
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Post Number: 5503 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 125.16.29.3
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2016 - 03:27 am: |
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http://m.firstpost.com/india/jnu-is-like-a-land-of-lotus-eat ers-where-we-have-not-emerged-from-the-cold-war-makarand-par anjape-2666738.html |
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