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Just4fun
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 05:32 pm:       


Macbook:

Devops Future ela untundi


prastutaniki bagundi. Maven, Gradle, jenkins, puppet, gitgub, splunk, scripting teliste dukei.
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 04:11 pm:       

Devops Future ela untundi , Jump kodatham anukuntunna , Telisina vallu suggest cheyagalaru
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 03:58 pm:       


Jeffa:



private cloud ante regular cloud computing under particular company firewall annai outside vendors vunnaru implemention ki , mission criticality and security issues overcome cheyochchu deeni tho... still budding..
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 03:34 pm:       


Thokkalohdi:

so end of the day you will have hybrid solution (cloud+on premise)




Thokkaloni Thammi.. ee "on premise" ki, Private Cloud ki diff enti thammi?
Alage... nuvvu seppedi Hybrid Cloud ki saana daggara ga vundi..
Koncham seppu thammi..

eadi eamanna.. manchi info.. thank you all.
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 03:25 pm:       

Very good thread.. thanks for Pulp babai.
Bing Babai.. thanks for your share of knowledge.. I am reading each and ever word of your post on this thread. Thanks a lot.
Keep going mates..
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 01:48 pm:       


Thokkalohdi:



Bingo:


very good info
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 01:23 pm:       


Just4fun:

malli on premise data centers enduku


main concern is security. Infrastructure cloud lo unte, your company doesn't have complete control of the security layer. On-premise ayite, you will have your own firewall and data will be behind it. And the data doesn't have to travel over the internet. Healthcare/PCI lanti industries lo data security is of utmost importance. So CTOs/Security teams of those companies usually prefer on-premise solutions.
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 11:51 am:       


Amaravathi:

automate cheyyataniki ayina madusulu kavali kadha pulpa




one time effort kada... chesina tharuvatha undav... BTW.. these days autmation scripts kuda scratch nunchi rayakarledu... already github la templates untayi
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 11:41 am:       


Pulpfiction:

automation is the future and it will reduce a lot of IT jobs ...




automate cheyyataniki ayina madusulu kavali kadha pulpa

Technically I oppose but Heartfully I accept - Pulp
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 11:36 am:       


Just4fun:

malli on premise data centers enduku




even today chala varuku transaction based tech antha mainframe meeda run avuthayi...

if you have to move that to cloud... the cost you pay for iops... and the data storage will cost you more than maintaining your own datacenter...

Cloud is more or less like a bank... they will charge you less to store data in there... but will charge you a fortune to bring it out of there...

One needs to identify what part of your IT can go to cloud... cloud candidates now usually are : websites, marketing apps, non-customer related data, IT services (ticketing, testing suites, request, etc).

on premise data-center: transactions, bank payments, customer's private info etc.

so end of the day you will have hybrid solution (cloud+on premise). But even on-premise automation avuthondi which will reduce jobs heavily.

Cloud will move jobs from Client to Cloud hosting companies...
Automation will move jobs from humans to computers...
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 09:49 am:       

antha iaas, paas, saas ani nadella told..
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 09:46 am:       

Prod support ki emaina bokkana lekapothe we are safe ani thadi gudda esukovacha..
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 09:32 am:       


Bingo:

When using PaaS, you can go for on premise or cloud based. If you go for on premise solution, then you again need data center. With cloud based PaaS solution, that headache goes to service provider.


Very well explained. Paas ante on top of Iaas, which includes storage, networking. malli on premise data centers enduku
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 09:29 am:       


Bingo:




On premise cloud is required for any pci apps.

IAAS will not change much, it will only help datacenter costs
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 09:20 am:       


Cocanada:

Dev teams ki pedda effect undadu. but length of cycle taggutondi kabatti Infra issue ani cheppi manollu few months time pass cheyyadam kudaradu


actual gaa dev kee integration work, prod support inka yekkuva vaasthundhee ani naa past year exp

xtreme cost saving ani seppi we are using IaaS from a vendor in UK...vadekkaa...okko saari 6 PM UK taruvaatha shutter close chesi vellipothaad
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 09:14 am:       


Sannayi_nokkulu:

so companies ki infra, plus network admins, unix team etc lantivi baga tagginchukuntaru??dev ela taggipotaru?? local ga deploy chesedi cloud lo chestaru, local ga dev chesedi cloud tools tho chestaru...may be developers taggipovavchu but not too much anukunta....
I think time will come every developer should and must have very good linux/unix skills not only cmds but understanding of *nix structure, and integration etc




as EMC2 said, with Iaas/PaaS, you are only reducing dependency on the DevOps.. With SaaS, you don't need many developers either. Here is an image that compares each solution..

https://stack247.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/azure-on-premis es-vs-iaas-vs-paas-vs-saas.png

left most you have regular setup, where the infrastructure is managed locally, OS and middleware is local and applications are also built and managed locally.. so you need developers, admins, procurement team, dbas etc etc..

Next is IaaS.. here you will outsource infrastructure.. hardware is provided by the service provider. So you don't need to have your own data center. With this method, you still need admins to install and manage OS and middleware. You will reduce cost in managing data center.

With PaaS, you will outsource middle layer too.. here you reduce admin dependency.. more cost reduction.

finally with SaaS, you will outsource application development and maintenance too.. less developers, less admins etc...


When using PaaS, you can go for on premise or cloud based. If you go for on premise solution, then you again need data center. With cloud based PaaS solution, that headache goes to service provider.
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 09:12 am:       

Dev teams ki pedda effect undadu. but length of cycle taggutondi kabatti Infra issue ani cheppi manollu few months time pass cheyyadam kudaradu

severely affected ante admins, networking batch

Retail companies lo kotha gaa point of sale testing (cashier tasks, card swipe, generate receipt) etc cheyadaaniki robots ni dimputunaaru. I saw it. It looks pretty cool. It can execute 10,000 test cases in a day. it can work 24x7. Testing vendors susu poskuntunaaru daanni chusi
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 09:08 am:       


Pulpfiction:




In another 5 years all companies want to move at least 40% of it into cloud.

Obviously cloud is not mature enough to host PCI systems or other compliance related stuff.

There comes in 2 other concepts, private cloud and automation.So any company if it has datacenter they are converting it to private cloud by going with converged infra. Already python, chef, puppet, ruby telusu kada...you take that and hook it up with orchestration engine and other suite then create a automated workflow integrated with ticketing system like service-now it is automation.

Ippudu azure vaadu aythey bari teginchadu... He will install azure in any data center and will provide hooks for automation.

Anyways if you are testing or a system admin you jobs are gone if you don't re tool
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:47 am:       


Just4fun:

but development anta company lo devs thone ga cheistaru




exactly, unless there is another service in cloud called saas, if this is already exist like erp's you can use from cloud, nothing new

so new technology new jobs, no worries

just be with technologies
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:44 am:       


Bingo:


so companies ki infra, plus network admins, unix team etc lantivi baga tagginchukuntaru??dev ela taggipotaru?? local ga deploy chesedi cloud lo chestaru, local ga dev chesedi cloud tools tho chestaru...may be developers taggipovavchu but not too much anukunta....
I think time will come every developer should and must have very good linux/unix skills not only cmds but understanding of *nix structure, and integration etc
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:40 am:       


Bingo:

App Engine ante PaaS solution kada


yaa not saas...
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:39 am:       


Bingo:

by building applications which can be used by multiple tenants.... take Salesforce for example. Oka CRM application create cheyali ante with so many modules, you need a huge team - 10s of developers, QAs and analysts etc. Instead of each company spending that much money, they instead buy Salesforce licenses. You need only two or three developers in each company to handle customization for your company. And the company doesn't have to worry about infrastructure, data security, data replication and etc. All of that is handled by the service provider. (You've to pay for it ofcourse).

BTW, this is not a new concept.. tools like Peoplesoft, Siebel etc have been around for a while with somewhat similar concept. But avi on premise lo install cheyalsi vachevi. Cloud tho aa problem kuda resolve ayindi


salesforce point lo perfect ga chepparu but other technology ki cloud services infra set chesi iste, devs ofc lo join kagane cloud ki login work start chestaru anukuntunna.
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:38 am:       


Sannayi_nokkulu:

cloud lo edi nerchukodam better antaru annai...google app engine future enti? I thjink its mainly for web apps, and has integration with python, java, php perl all other languages? if u want to learn apps management on cloud what is the best?




App Engine ante PaaS solution kada.. Amazon AWS and RedHat vadidi OpenShift baga popular market lo.. dead cheap prices. IBM vadidi BlueMix undi but too pricey. Chinna chitaka companies which can't afford IBM's pricing are going to OpenShift or AWS. kondaru CTOs ki IBM ante tega istam for whatever reason. they prefer BlueMix. If you want more control over your infrastrucre go for OpenShift/AWS. If you want everything handled by service provider, go for BlueMix.

Nerchukovali ante, I would go for AWS. Easy to learn compared to others ani na abhiprayam..
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:32 am:       


Emc2:

yo host it i will provide servers and infra, net flix don't have to concentrate on ifra


infra set chesi istaru , but development anta company lo devs thone ga cheistaru
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:31 am:       


Just4fun:

how this works?




by building applications which can be used by multiple tenants.... take Salesforce for example. Oka CRM application create cheyali ante with so many modules, you need a huge team - 10s of developers, QAs and analysts etc. Instead of each company spending that much money, they instead buy Salesforce licenses. You need only two or three developers in each company to handle customization for your company. And the company doesn't have to worry about infrastructure, data security, data replication and etc. All of that is handled by the service provider. (You've to pay for it ofcourse).

BTW, this is not a new concept.. tools like Peoplesoft, Siebel etc have been around for a while with somewhat similar concept. But avi on premise lo install cheyalsi vachevi. Cloud tho aa problem kuda resolve ayindi
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:31 am:       


Siloan:

devops anta


ido paniki malina post, indian it companies pandaga chesukuntai, 24 hours devops ani out sourcing.
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:27 am:       


Sannayi_nokkulu:

cloud


cloud endukura bujja varsham paddaka disapper ayipodhi
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:27 am:       


Just4fun:

how this works?




for eg amazon cloud, pay for use

yo host it i will provide servers and infra, net flix don't have to concentrate on ifra

and number of people using cost savings for every body

other side those jobs will be provided by amazon

win win for everybody
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:26 am:       


Bingo:

And a lot of companies are moving to Cloud and SaaS solutions to reduce cost and infra related headaches.


cloud lo edi nerchukodam better antaru annai...google app engine future enti? I thjink its mainly for web apps, and has integration with python, java, php perl all other languages? if u want to learn apps management on cloud what is the best?
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:25 am:       

devops anta
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:23 am:       


Pulpfiction:

automation is the future and it will reduce a lot of IT jobs ...


yup,its over
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:23 am:       


Bingo:

we are already saying that.. lot of teams are looking into automated testing to reduce manual qa testers. Especially useful for regression testing.


i agree. lot of companies moving to automated testing(selenium)


Bingo:

And a lot of companies are moving to Cloud and SaaS solutions to reduce cost and infra related headaches.


how this works?
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:22 am:       

new technology new jobs

think like this
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:19 am:       

we are already saying that.. lot of teams are looking into automated testing to reduce manual qa testers. Especially useful for regression testing.

And a lot of companies are moving to Cloud and SaaS solutions to reduce cost and infra related headaches.
 

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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 07:55 am:       

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Now they are saying automation is the future and it will reduce a lot of IT jobs ...
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