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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 08:51 am:       


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nee opinion post chesi argue cheyyi.....
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 08:33 am:       

asalu BJP ki Congress ki oka area lo difference chudalani undhi other than COW
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:26 am:       


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free wikipedia/google/whatsapp packs kuda ban chesthe with this memo then kids have to be given normal data packs. With that comes the challenge of blocking certain sites so bokka kuda vuntadi . :-O
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:23 am:       


Thikka_sankara:

lets burn some trains demanding free internet


Anyhow you & I don't have a dog in this fight like awara1984 said but I feel sooner or later internet in india has to transcend english speaking crowd and how that has to be done is a very big challenge…
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:21 am:       


Reddit:

Here if a private entity wants to leverage their business model by making users as commodities then the market should be left to decide whether thats a sound strategy or not.


b/w it's a valid argument, and this what is making me divided on this topic.....
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:20 am:       


Thikka_sankara:

moreover, it's not no free to air channels.... There will be free to air channels but you need to pay for carrier fee.... Like getting a set top box and paying for set top box usage (poor example, I know)..... It's like, you buy data and then everything else is level playing field.... You will use free apps or paid apps is your descretion….


Its akin to buying a television and power cable. So you buy a basic Jio smart phone & do 'duniya mutti mayy.'
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:19 am:       


Reddit:

which btw is one of CBNs' poll promises


lets burn some trains demanding free internet :D
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:17 am:       


Thikka_sankara:

Yepp... That's open market capitalism right??? Do we want concepts of socialism implemented in internet access??? Frankly, I myself am divide on this


It's socialism if government gets into giving free internet access which btw is one of CBNs' poll promises. Here if a private entity wants to leverage their business model by making users as commodities then the market should be left to decide whether thats a sound strategy or not.
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:17 am:       


Reddit:

no free to air channels at all


moreover, it's not no free to air channels.... There will be free to air channels but you need to pay for carrier fee.... Like getting a set top box and paying for set top box usage (poor example, I know)..... It's like, you buy data and then everything else is level playing field.... You will use free apps or paid apps is your descretion....
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:14 am:       


Sannayi_nokkulu:

asalu matter enti anedi 2 pieces lo septara?


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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:13 am:       


Reddit:

This ruling more or less makes everything paid kada.. no free to air channels at all so those who can't pay can't watch tv. Period


Yepp... That's open market capitalism right??? Do we want concepts of socialism implemented in internet access??? Frankly, I myself am divide on this :D
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:12 am:       


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asalu matter enti anedi 2 pieces lo septara?
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:10 am:       


Thikka_sankara:

what is he saying??? Babajobs tied up with fb....don't know on what basis.... Now if I start a startup for jobsearch, I'd be forced to go stand in front of fb or else I will be left out.....even before I start!!!


Did even read what he wrote? babajobs is a portal for blue collar jobs so for that guy english speaking clientele don't matter, he wants people from the lower starta to get access.
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:08 am:       


Thikka_sankara:

that's not the argument right??? Free channels or paid channels, shouldn't matter to carrier....they need to air everything in similar fashion.... Ala kaadu only paid channels 24/7 and all free channels you can watch only b/w 01:00 AM to 05:00 AM ante that would be apt comparision….


This ruling more or less makes everything paid kada.. no free to air channels at all so those who can't pay can't watch tv. Period.
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:04 am:       


Reddit:

oh come on take the gist of what that guy says


what is he saying??? Babajobs tied up with fb....don't know on what basis.... Now if I start a startup for jobsearch, I'd be forced to go stand in front of fb or else I will be left out.....even before I start!!!
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:01 am:       


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taking the argument further free to air TV channels ey allow chesi vunte GoI?


that's not the argument right??? Free channels or paid channels, shouldn't matter to carrier....they need to air everything in similar fashion.... Ala kaadu only paid channels 24/7 and all free channels you can watch only b/w 01:00 AM to 05:00 AM ante that would be apt comparision....
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 07:00 am:       


Platypus:

Disclaimer: Internet.org is an advertiser on YourStory. Facebook and Reliance Communications have partnered to bring Internet.org to India.


oh come on take the gist of what that guy says and more over fb spent 350 crores for advertising free basics so no media group is kosher.
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:58 am:       


Thikka_sankara:

B/w startup India antooo ila startups ni kill cheyyagala potential unna proposals ni ela accept chestundi govt???


only 12% is connected so valla kosam you're are holding back the rest??

taking the argument further free to air TV channels ey allow chesi vunte GoI?
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:57 am:       


Reddit:

doesn't say what is basics and what is not.. anyone can get attached to free basics program.


of course, thats what they say....

Thikka_sankara:

Unless these startups go bend in front of a major operator, they can't survive as they will not be available on




B/w as I said at the begining of my post, I'm still undecided on which side I want to stand
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:56 am:       


Platypus:

Avunaa... What constitutes a closed group?


Not sure ET article mentioned it. Trai memo sadive opika ledu.

If airtel wynk is banned so will special wikipedia/whatsapp/google pack that telcos sell then? Brilliant if that's the case!
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:56 am:       


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what is zero rating...........mango people ki ardham ayyettu seppu....
 

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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:53 am:       


Reddit:




Disclaimer: Internet.org is an advertiser on YourStory. Facebook and Reliance Communications have partnered to bring Internet.org to India.
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:53 am:       


Reddit:

fb doesn't say what is basics and what is not


I thought they would.... Will check...


B/w startup India antooo ila startups ni kill cheyyagala potential unna proposals ni ela accept chestundi govt???
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:52 am:       

http://yourstory.com/2015/04/net-neutrality-internet-org-acc ess-babajob/
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:51 am:       


Reddit:

btw closed group will be allowed anta so Reliance worlds'/ airtel wynks will make merry.




Avunaa... What constitutes a closed group?
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:51 am:       


Reddit:

Airtel Wynk kuda ban sesali ala ante mari?




Yes. Even that is banned now. TRAI ruling is on zero rating. Not on Facebook free basics.
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:50 am:       


Thikka_sankara:

They are launching 4g services.... Now, they'd say... A basic pack comprising of some apps data is free.... I.e, if hike ties up with Reliance then you'd get to use hike messenger free and data you used on hike wouldn't get you charged.... Great.. but if you want to use, let's st watsapp, you'd have to buy data and use....


btw closed group will be allowed anta so Reliance worlds'/ airtel wynks will make merry.
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:49 am:       


Thikka_sankara:

So, as Facebook says "free basics"... That us, everything considered as basics are offerred for free....


fb doesn't say what is basics and what is not.. anyone can get attached to free basics program. Check out babajob founders take on the whole issue.

Airtel Wynk kuda ban sesali ala ante mari?

85% of the population is not yet connected to the internet so by showing the boogieman of startups you can't deny those 85% to atleast get a feel of what staying connected to atleast a part of internet means.
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:44 am:       

I'm divided on this one.... On the face of it, it sounds pro-user.... Let's take example of Reliance jio....

They are launching 4g services.... Now, they'd say... A basic pack comprising of some apps data is free.... I.e, if hike ties up with Reliance then you'd get to use hike messenger free and data you used on hike wouldn't get you charged.... Great.. but if you want to use, let's st watsapp, you'd have to buy data and use....

So, as Facebook says "free basics"... That us, everything considered as basics are offerred for free....

Great, so what's wrong??? Well, what is basics of internet?? We, as a user won't get to decide. Whatever Facebook or Reliance or airtel says is basic, becomes basic.... So, whoever small time players, let's say startups of sorts will get squeezed out of competition.... Unless these startups go bend in front of a major operator, they can't survive as they will not be available on free/preferential data. So , loss of competition, monopoly etc etc....
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:37 am:       

tammud....naa lanti yes no alright people ki ardham ayyettu seppandi....what is this whole issue ?
 

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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:22 am:       

3000, 4000 internet ki pay chese rich people, free internet mida decision teesukovadam too bad too worst

let the original customers who might use it take a chance and tell pros and cons of it
 

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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 06:13 am:       

Be frank ga cheppali ante I don't see what the issue is with zero rating. If and when fb or some other entity uses the 'users' as a commodity whats the issue when you're being compensated in the form of free internet?

First world problems…
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 05:19 am:       

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/tech/trai-stands-up-for-net-neut rality-rules-against-differential-pricing-1200602.html
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