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Theaviator Junior Artist Username: Theaviator Post Number: 593 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 183.82.42.130 Rating: N/A |
Profitability ante min. 15% roe. Metro rail lante infra projects ye viable kadu for PPP, not just india but globally.. See sridhran's views http://wap.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/buil ding-metro-rails-under-bot-or-ppp-models-not-viable-e-sreedh aran-115032100125_1.html Average cost of capital debt+equity for indian companies will cost around 12%-13% These kind of projects can only give a 3%-5% roe Foreign majors can bring financing at negligible rates to mitigate risk and improve returns to 10-12% level. Source countires give loans at such rates so that thier companies can keep manf going at full cap back home. Overall return for forg govt will be decent with taxes. Show an example of a ppp model adopted in bits and pecies and is a successful. An investor would like to have full control of project big/small, indian/foreign | ||
Theaviator Junior Artist Username: Theaviator Post Number: 592 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 183.82.42.130 Rating: N/A |
ipi is a shelfed project. Tapi did not envisage any interest from private Govt are taking up tapi project with no visibility on funding. Funding is based on country risk prespective followed by project specifics. World lo day to day basis many projects get into inception but souces of funds are very limited and get shelfed | ||
Boston_baba Side Hero Username: Boston_baba Post Number: 7982 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 108.171.159.47 Rating: N/A |
Swiss challenge bidding was open to everyone worldwide and guess what they got interest only from 4 companies. 3 Singapore based and one UK. Nuvvu cheppina Indian companies and lot of players ekkada poyaru? World over infra investing has come to halt and it'll remain so for another 4-5 years - total 1lac crore project ki iste, evadu vastadu. unna 3 Singapore players ipudu merge ayi single ayyayi. anyways. first we bought the plan. and now invite players ba. for small portions. whats so complicated in it? ayina, total 1lac cr project solution nannu immantava endi... follow auvtunna model lo issues unnayi antunna. competition promote cheyadaniki em cheyalo adi cheyi. http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece 1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP. | ||
Boston_baba Side Hero Username: Boston_baba Post Number: 7981 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 108.171.159.47 Rating: N/A |
@wells.  http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece 1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP. | ||
Boston_baba Side Hero Username: Boston_baba Post Number: 7980 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 108.171.159.47 Rating: N/A |
how do you decide the viability in an objective manner? - by competition  . - i don't need to decide the objectivity. let the market forces decide it. capitalism/free market blah blah... u have plan now.. small and manageable pieces kinda divide cheyi, so that multiple foreign/domestic players join and give us the best deal. akkada global banks, INSTC/TAPI/IPI inka many more risky African projects ki funding ki ready ga unnayi. investment opportunities kosam dikkulu chustunnaru. funding is not gonna be problem. http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece 1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP. | ||
Wellsfargo Side Hero Username: Wellsfargo Post Number: 5145 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 183.82.98.119 Rating: N/A |
welcome back... | ||
Darth_vader Side Hero Username: Darth_vader Post Number: 6904 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.169.213.254 Rating: N/A |
Who is going to underwrite these loans? Do you think @ 5% the developer will be able service his interest monies annually? Leave alone the principal part. Boston babu lots of funding sources and lots of players ani arbitiary statements seyak. Swiss challenge bidding was open to everyone worldwide and guess what they got interest only from 4 companies. 3 Singapore based and one UK. Nuvvu cheppina Indian companies and lot of players ekkada poyaru? World over infra investing has come to halt and it'll remain so for another 4-5 years. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. | ||
Boston_baba Side Hero Username: Boston_baba Post Number: 7979 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 108.171.159.47 Rating: N/A |
chusukundu kabatte 33 years lease ninchi 99 ki marcharu - ade antenna. after competition, if the best proposal is 99yr lease. so be it. http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece 1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP. | ||
Boston_baba Side Hero Username: Boston_baba Post Number: 7978 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 108.171.159.47 Rating: N/A |
Who is going to fund? Which Indian infra major has money lying around? Lil harsh saying this but beggars can't be choosers - doesn't need to be Indian player alone. invite foreign players. especially, ADB, AIIB, NDB, WB type banks looking for investment opportunities with ROI 5%. even domestic players also can get funding from above global banks. cheppa kada.. we have the plan already. invite bids for each part or the whole. there are so many funding sources. http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece 1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP. | ||
Darth_vader Side Hero Username: Darth_vader Post Number: 6903 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.169.213.254 Rating: N/A |
chusukundu kabatte 33 years lease ninchi 99 ki marcharu. Its a big deal for any private player to do a project of this kind. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. | ||
Darth_vader Side Hero Username: Darth_vader Post Number: 6902 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.169.213.254 Rating: N/A |
ingo pali competitiveness objectivity and arbitiary annav ante :x ikkada government is not going to spend a dime so no Indian player will come forward to do it in the first place ponies PPP model tesukunna how do you decide the viability in an objective manner? Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. | ||
Boston_baba Side Hero Username: Boston_baba Post Number: 7977 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 108.171.159.47 Rating: N/A |
PPP can be adopted for sectors where business case for scalable business model and visible revenue streams post implementation backed by pilots projects data.. Roads, ports, metro rail type. - how to get profit from a venture anedi private player chskuntadu. road toll revenue type, ikkada multiple revenue sources untayi. he can and will find out them and come up with proposal for PPP model. not a big deal. http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece 1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP. | ||
Darth_vader Side Hero Username: Darth_vader Post Number: 6901 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.169.213.254 Rating: N/A |
Who is going to fund? Which Indian infra major has money lying around? Lil harsh saying this but beggars can't be choosers. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. | ||
Boston_baba Side Hero Username: Boston_baba Post Number: 7976 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 108.171.159.47 Rating: N/A |
flaw ani etta antaav? - too much arbitrariness and lack of objectivity. - edo defense deals ki, france vs Britain proposals compare cheyadam kastam emo kani. i don't think its that tough promote competition here. as i told u, take the plan from them. or pay & get multiple plans and decide on one plan. from then, invite competition in execution. http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece 1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP. | ||
Boston_baba Side Hero Username: Boston_baba Post Number: 7975 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 108.171.159.47 Rating: N/A |
who will come and develop a greenfield capital without expecting a windfall in the end?? - oh, is it our duty to give windfall profit to some foreign player? - adopt model, which promotes competition and objectivity. competitive bidding iste, whoever gives best proposal can take the whole project or in parts. - some 12cr ki Singapore plan ichindi kada.. take that and invite bids for whole or each part for domestic and foreign players. is it that tough? http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece 1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP. | ||
Darth_vader Side Hero Username: Darth_vader Post Number: 6899 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.169.213.254 Rating: N/A |
flaw ani etta antaav? Manam nijalu matladithe who will come and develop a greenfield capital without expecting a windfall in the end?? monna jagan self goal valla without any discussion 33 year freehold lease period ni 99 freehold lease period amendment pass chesaru ap assembly lo. Happy ga company odu 99 years land allotment cheeyinchukuni taapi ga develop chesthadu. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. | ||
Theaviator Junior Artist Username: Theaviator Post Number: 591 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 183.82.42.130 Rating: N/A |
PPP can be adopted for sectors where business case for scalable business model and visible revenue streams post implementation backed by pilots projects data.. Roads, ports, metro rail type. High risk one of a kind projects ki PPP model will not attract any interest and as there are case of failures in such projects globally. If ap capital proves potential and profitability for such cities. Next greenfield smart city may be have interest under ppp | ||
Theaviator Junior Artist Username: Theaviator Post Number: 590 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 183.82.42.130 Rating: N/A |
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/HOCSnmCWarO4hpYglBsHBP/What -is-the-Swiss-Challenge-Method.html | ||
Boston_baba Side Hero Username: Boston_baba Post Number: 7974 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 202.79.203.99 Rating: N/A |
@thikka, swiss challenge, ante player A comes to u with plan/cost and proposal. govt invites other players to give better bid than that. if some player X gives better bid, player A will be asked to match that bid or better that bid and he will be given bid, if matches that bid. e.g., mana Singapore capital model. problem is objectivity. u cant objectively compare two technical proposals. better compare two android phones, but not iPhone vs android. one says, i have isight camera, qhd/blah blah display and OS is IoS etc. http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece 1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP. | ||
Boston_baba Side Hero Username: Boston_baba Post Number: 7973 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 202.167.250.99 Rating: N/A |
@darth, i'm not saying center should fund or etc.. just highlighting the flaw in new policy for awarding contracts. infact, this seems to be the most arbitraty and ambiguous policy for infra projects. PPP ne, koncham modify cheste better. its much more objective than swiss challenge http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece 1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP. | ||
Thikka_sankara Megastar Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 25565 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 106.193.37.35 Rating: N/A |
What's a Swiss challenge?? Perhaps nobody has changed the course of history as much as the historians. ~Franklin P. Jones" | ||
Darth_vader Side Hero Username: Darth_vader Post Number: 6897 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.169.213.254 Rating: N/A |
center funding chesthe inga Swiss challenge method deniki and if they don't then they can't have a say in state government issues. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. | ||
Boston_baba Side Hero Username: Boston_baba Post Number: 7970 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 202.167.250.99 Rating: N/A |
lol @ telangana dekoit pan branding veyadam alavate kada... go on.. matter unte, topic matladu uncle. http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece 1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP. | ||
Siloan Legend Username: Siloan Post Number: 44220 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.79.227.66 Rating: |
lol @ telangana dekoit pan transparensy gurinchi meera seppedi... | ||
Boston_baba Side Hero Username: Boston_baba Post Number: 7967 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 202.167.250.99 Rating: N/A |
http://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/panel-refuses-swiss -challenge-wants-changes-in-corruption-law/article8037615.ec e - very tough to differentiate b/w tenders and huge probability of arbitrariness. kani, mana > 1lac crore worth capital project ki swiss challenge. http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece 1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP. |
