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Tilak Legend Username: Tilak Post Number: 34590 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.186.183 Rating: N/A |
ante okati le .. world is always "relative" kada .. aayana may be compare chesukunte violence scales lo Islam ki .. Hinduism ki teda ledemo aayana drustilo .. or uttamudaina Gandhi laga .. 1 murder = 1 crore murders = genocide of races/regions/religions anukuntademo!! Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 14994 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.109.165.236 Rating: N/A |
dont act intolerant. /run | ||
Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 18002 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 71.91.3.40 Rating: |
Again, we are not talking about lone wolves. The point of discussion is what is acceptable in the doctrines of a particular religion. Lone wolves or not, literature needs to be examined for it is.
Again, why bring other religions into picture when the topic is not about them. Objectivity gets obscured. If the discussion is about violence in hindu religion texts. If it needs to be a discussion about hinduism, we can definitely discuss and we dont have to bring in islam in those topics. | ||
Buduguuu Megastar Username: Buduguuu Post Number: 23315 Registered: 01-2012 Posted From: 192.193.171.151 Rating: N/A |
annai comment in bad taste, imo. idological differences ki personal targetting avasaram ledemo. epudo aavesham lo slip avvadame tappu. meeru consistent ga matti ni ila target cheyyadam em bagaledu. elagu world famous mudu peru sickulars undane undi kada. malli ee targettings enduku. say sorry topuri | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 18418 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 71.195.55.231 Rating: N/A |
thx for the link bhayya....finally one athiest who has guts to call spade a spade.....  that interviewer seems like a big loser...mana ndtv anchors madiri disco sethunadu avathala antha clear ga explan chesthuna... | ||
Legend Username: Twitter Post Number: 40962 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 66.194.212.162 Rating: N/A |
lol  | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 18415 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 71.195.55.231 Rating: N/A |
bad post annai...he was a BJP follower and staunh hindu at some pt.. | ||
Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 14991 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: N/A |
+1 cow ki support cheste cow, dog ki support cheste dog aipomu | ||
Legend Username: Twitter Post Number: 40956 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 66.194.212.162 Rating: |
ento ee baseless and senseless allegations and judgements .. accha din aachuki ho..lol | ||
Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 59063 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 108.171.130.188 Rating: N/A |
nenu just clarification kosam adiga..kurrod no response..i have musalman friends.vallani direct ga ne tidata..enti ee sodi ani..theu dont feel bad...i am not ridiculing here,but kurrod enduku serious ga support chestunnado teliyatledu Happy Vizag | ||
Gatti_gunde Megastar Username: Gatti_gunde Post Number: 20612 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 204.194.77.3 Rating: N/A |
 Boob annai ni kindhesi thanthe DB set aithadhi | ||
Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 14988 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: N/A |
personal vishayalu enduku annai db lo cheppatam /run | ||
Legend Username: Twitter Post Number: 40954 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 66.194.212.162 Rating: N/A |
i know him ..he is a true gentleman from your own religion | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 3406 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: |
!ntfi | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 3405 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: |
Completely agree. Except for the lone wolves, the violent human behaviour can be controlled by several factors like better public institutions (policing, criminal justice & enforcing rule of law), effective conflict resolutions, enforcing social contract, creating honorable means of employment, emphasis on family relations etc. The loan wolves are tough to tackle and we (humanity) haven't found a solution yet. While all Abrahamic religions follow the same or similar doctrine when its comes to dealing with non-believers, Islam takes it a step forward, as it actively dictates not just the spiritual aspects of society but also administrative, political aspects of society. Rajneeti, Dharma and some stories on governances in the scriptures written on sub-continent also speak about the administrative and political aspects of the society. Non-believers were left to themselves, exterminated and when Shivism-Vaishnavism came into the picture, it became violent. I don't remember reading anything about outsiders and conquerors from outside. These were is entirely a new thing to the sub-continent. Scriptures are outdated. The norms specified 1300 years ago, 2000 years ago, in between and earlier are not relevant today. A nation can't become progressive by adhering to the norms of on religion. Read Fukuyama's The Origins of Political Order, where he described how religion influenced several political structures and public institutions and in several parts of the world. I believe it is through Republic humanity will see mutual well being and collective progress. Nation-states must disown religion, and has been happening. May be, the world is few decades away before we enter the phase of post-terrorism world. !ntfi | ||
Nice Hero Username: Nice Post Number: 11319 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 27.97.188.253 Rating: |
Muslim ani naa feeling, kaakapothe siggu padutunnadu ala cheppukovataniki. siggu pade level lo untayi valla actions | ||
Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 18001 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 71.91.3.40 Rating: |
Kindal - all humans are biologican entities. they are violient like any other being on earth. the difference here is when we talk about religions, the glorification of violence and the inherent support violence gets from these religions. While all Abrahamic religions follow the same or similar doctrine when its comes to dealing with non-believers, Islam takes it a step forward, as it actively dictates not just the spiritual aspects of society but also administrative, political aspects of society.
this is a much trivial explanation, if Sam Harris gave this explanation I am thoroughly disappointed in his reasoning. Usually his reasons, or deductions are much more thought-out. | ||
Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 59053 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 108.171.130.188 Rating: N/A |
are u a muslim or hard core sickularist? Happy Vizag | ||
Zulu Megastar Username: Zulu Post Number: 27359 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: |
motham choodu babai,.. dont ask me questions...ask yourselves - zulu baba.. but please dont get carried away by islam apologists like raza...he is a softer version of zakir naik btw..sam harris is an atheist, Liberal, analyses all religions from an outsider perspective. | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 3403 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: |
If you have any differences, you can discuss. Eppudu oka religion meeda butulu tappa emi matlada ledu meeru.
You once posted on Charvaka and never seen any discussion on religion. Never quoted to me and thanks for educating Zulu here. !ntfi | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 3401 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: |
Started the video, done with 40 mins of video. I will put the relevant conversation and just help me understand, if am wrong. The author begins with 'cognitive commitment for certain doctrine' of an individual, says that there is a spectrum things one is told to follow, and each follower of Islam has different levels of adherence to these doctrines. Then some blabber, comes to the point that he did not generalise Islam to everyone, then he mentions about the surveys he conducted and extrapolated to the percentage of population based on those surveys. The interviewer reads two quotes written earlier by Sam Harris. The key parts are key points 1. Islam is all fringe and no center 2. Unfortunately, Jihadists & Terrorists are best examples of doctrine in practice Harris justifies his claims by citing this example Give an island to a group of people, and tell them Quran should be followed by every word. Come back after 1000 years to same place. You will see daesh there. Give an island to a group of people, and tell them the preachings of Buddha should be followed by every word. Come back after 1000 years to same place. You will see a people living peaceful. When the interviewer requests clarification by referring that in this day, people following Budhhism are violent too, Harris says " The holy books of Judaism, Christianity are as much violent as Islam, and all of these are a liability. The paradise, hell, 72 virgins and martyrdom is the only difference between these 2 books that makes Islam more violent. This is leading to the death cult behaviour of the Jihadists." The interviewer retorts "World War-1, World War-2 and Holocaust, X'ians are not the reason, but for terrorist attacks, is Islam a reason?" Sam: I never blamed Islams for all the bad things done by Muslims in the past. He demands honest conversation between Ideas in a doctrine and behaviour. An example cited here by Sam is - in Myanmar, the Bhuddists resorted to violence and killed several Muslims. That was purely out of Xenophobia and ethnic differences. Buddism, didn't preach violence. So, this was act of certain individuals and Buddism should not be blamed here. Agreed on the above example. I have a question here. As its written in the Islam doctorine and gives moral authority to Muslims to resort to violence. Why didn't they do it in Myanmar? Are there any suicide attacks, Mumbai style killings or vengent killings? No. " !ntfi | ||
Zulu Megastar Username: Zulu Post Number: 27358 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
anduke arugue cheyyatledhu dattar saab...just video links isthunna | ||
Nice Hero Username: Nice Post Number: 11312 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 27.97.188.253 Rating: N/A |
Emiti Kindal ki ardham avtundhi ane | ||
Nihil Comedian Username: Nihil Post Number: 1523 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 183.82.201.245 Rating: N/A |
nee bump lo kallis gani hump akkada beyond redemption...nee time bokka tappithe no use. vrudha prayasa. | ||
Zulu Megastar Username: Zulu Post Number: 27357 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
bump | ||
Abhysg Megastar Username: Abhysg Post Number: 26752 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 209.133.66.6 Rating: N/A |
mallee ade tappu sestunnav.. evado oka gottam gadu seppindi generalise sestunnaru.. - oka sickularist | ||
Zulu Megastar Username: Zulu Post Number: 27355 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
pedha arguments chese opika ledhu, As you keep on saying dont link religion and terror. All I can say is you are wrong. Youtube sam harris and watch his videos, there is a very long video (3 plus hours )..a debate between sam harris & youngturks (youtube channel) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVl3BJoEoAU idi opika lekapothey chinna chinna clips untayi choodu when you watch these : 1. Watch with an open mind. 2. Dont think about Nikkars and rising Intolerance. 3. Dont think about Modi and BJP. 3. dont think about thilakam and bongaram. Shabbakhair |
