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Nihil Comedian Username: Nihil Post Number: 1522 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 64.233.173.34 Rating: N/A |
Lol..Shorie baga cheppadu Monna congress+cow.. Ippudu idi.. Elagola eeyanni, JP ni pettukunte bavutadi.. It is BJP loss not to have these guys on their side. | ||
Mushin Comedian Username: Mushin Post Number: 1067 Registered: 05-2015 Posted From: 121.6.39.30 Rating: N/A |
shourie is undoubtedly top intellectual in the right wing...too bad modi sidelined him...but the statements he is making now are way below his stature.... | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 3391 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: N/A |
Heard that Shourie meets Modi once in a month and both of them exchange their views. The word is that RSS is against giving any position to Shourie. !ntfi | ||
Tilak Legend Username: Tilak Post Number: 34562 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.186.183 Rating: N/A |
I did listen and hence decided that he is disgruntled/bitter and so petty. India lo church attacks jarugutunnayi (which itself is a lie by sickular media around Delhi elections) .. so India ki investments raavu annadi Shourie ne kada .. did you listen to that? do you want to support that pettiness? Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 14946 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.109.165.236 Rating: N/A |
research seyaledu, most of my views were based on hindu articles back then  | ||
Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 14940 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.109.165.236 Rating: N/A |
vaake, got it. thxu, i thought they also had internet ... | ||
Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 14939 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.109.165.236 Rating: N/A |
ok, let me try . If I offer you 10-20% premium , there is no compulsion that you should sell. Its because you think over the years you are getting more value. My point was, what was the hurry for govt to sell VSNL? was it really loss making back then ? | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 7832 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 150.242.63.126 Rating: N/A |
Are you the only guy who has that information, otherwise the current market price should capture that potential. If everyone realises that the company has potential, the price would automatically move to 40 and not 20.
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Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 14937 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.109.165.236 Rating: N/A |
you would not take the offer when you know it has lot of potential? again, my FB comparison is way off
i thought they were service providers , no? what exactly was their biz?
maa family and frds max bsnl lo work chesaaru. i may have a biased view , but there were incidents where proposals here would get implemented by ril and airtel before hand. | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 7831 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 150.242.63.126 Rating: |
Why not, ippudu FB 20 unte, if someone offers you 40, why would you not take the offer? The share price of a company is supposed to capture all information about the company. So if FB is at 20, that means the price of 20 reflects all future growth. VSNL ki internet ki sambandham enti?? So, why would the govt. sell a growing company ante - the govt. has no business being in businesses whether it be telecom, watches, hotels etc. Nothing more. If you do, you are nothing but a socialist country. The only countries where govt. run companies do well is where there is very low corruption and and high compliance like Singapore or totally thuggish countries like China or Russia. Govt. run companies are just incompatible with a capitalist/ democratic/ liberal country Regarding BSNL, it is unfair to criticise the govts that they killed BSNL. They did get a lot of their spectrum for free. They just did not run an efficient ship, in my view. But the jury is still out on that. What happened to the companies (even the Navratnas) that the govt. did not divest over the past 10 years - and check out the broad market performance and they would have done very badly compared to the broad market and also peers. | ||
Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 14929 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.109.165.236 Rating: N/A |
my kochen would be why should the govt sell a growing company? ipud FB market price 20 vunapudu evadaina 40 offer cheste adi good deal avvadu kada. my comparison is way off, but my point is Internet was at infantile stage in India, back then
do you think BSNL died due to incompetency or deliberate effort by govt to help pvt players? | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 7829 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 150.242.63.126 Rating: |
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/arun-shourie-a-devil-may -care-attitude-and-passion-for-facts/story-hUjOUouadINwBfw8Q AyXKM.html Thappaka chadavandi...fanboys are alienating the few intellectual right wingers out there. Dinanath Batra and his ilk are not going to take you to the promised land. Congress ni, leftists ni, Ambedkar ni kalipi kummina vadini..Ramakrisha and Ramana Maharshi ni idolise chese vadini kooda meeru disgruntled ante, you will shoo away future believers to your cause... | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 7827 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 150.242.64.19 Rating: N/A |
Btw, the market price of VSNL was 158 at that time, the govt. took our excess cash as dividend (nearly 2000 crores), took out surplus land, and then got Rs200 per share.......the Govt. got a very fair deal.. In fact left to itself VSNL would have withered away by now, like how BSNL is on its death bed. Kapil Sibal gadu investigation begin chesadu against this, but went nowhere. | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 7826 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 150.242.64.19 Rating: N/A |
At the i-bank i was working with, we were closely involved with some of these deals and my seniors used to work closely with the ministry. There was 4-5 big disinvestments those days - VSNL, Hindustan Zinc and Balco (bought by Sterlite), ITDC hotels etc In VSNL, the govt. actually treated 770 acres of land as surplus land that the Tatas could not get control of. The govt. still has that land. UPA govt lo aithe, free ga ichchesevaru  So the deal was fair and transparent, the article just quotes some usual negotiations that happen in any deal. http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/dot-to-hi re-consultant-for-vsnl-surplus-land-114101500932_1.html I can assure the process was solid and robust with little external pressure. The 2000-2002 were very bad days for the Indian economy and in many of these cases, there was no second bidder. For instance, take Hindustan Zinc which Sterlite got at a ridiculous price. Even in Balco, it was a similar case or there was a second bidder at half the price, if my memory serves me right. Even the Birlas or Ambanis did not bid. And so, the price it paid at that time appeared to be fair. But when the commodities boom happened from 2003-2008, HZL proved to be a diamond for Sterlite, that nobody could have foreseen. I have even visited some of those mines in Udaipur as we were advising a competing bidder who dropped out midway through. | ||
Bongaram Megastar Username: Bongaram Post Number: 24355 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 103.252.24.99 Rating: |
He IS disgruntled.. Any sane person would not have said people are missing Manmohan Singh govt | ||
Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 14926 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.109.165.236 Rating: N/A |
when this happened i was too young, but all i knew was VSNL was sold at a throwaway price. "tata agent" is what i heard about shourie, back then. http://www.frontline.in/static/html/fl2805/stories/201103112 80513200.htm | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 7825 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 150.242.63.74 Rating: N/A |
Question passed to Bro Anil... | ||
Gandhiguevara Legend Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 57442 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 68.52.124.39 Rating: N/A |
Shourie gori statement lo same confusion naaku bhee vachindhi....Jesus vachaadu....kontha mandi ni resurrect kudaa chesaadu...Lazarus anukunta vaani peru | ||
Thikka_sankara Megastar Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 24265 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 183.82.196.50 Rating: N/A |
Did Jesus raise himself from dead or did he resurrect other dead people??? Genuine doubt Perhaps nobody has changed the course of history as much as the historians. ~Franklin P. Jones" | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 7824 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 150.242.63.74 Rating: |
Modi is like Jesus - he raises the dead like the Congress annd the Left....(am trying to get the Hindustan times article link) Kummesadu - i have been a ardent admirer of Shourie since the mid 80s when he was the torchbearer (at the Express) against the Congress. Anti-congress, anti-left, maverick and unconventional, not kowtowing to established beliefs about Ambedkar (in Worshipping False Gods), did a stellar role in the Vajpayee govt on disinvestment. He is the kind of intellectual, right wingers you need. And you should listen to these people rather than dismiss him as disgruntled or petty. To anyone who has tracked his personal life and his family, he has seen a lot more glories than what a ministership can give him...but the Modi admirers will not listen... |
