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By-elections between 2004-14

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Inquisitive
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Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2015 - 08:51 am:       


Bluelagoon:



Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to apply this logic selectively to YSRCP or TRS. Even TDP would do that. For instance, in 2004, Babu advanced the whole assembly elections by prematurely dissolving the assembly. Had he not thought that the timing was good for him, he wouldn't have done that. (It is a different matter that he seems to have overestimated the sympathy due to Alipiri and underestimated the anti-incumbency due to drought).
Similarly, an MLA whose graph is on a high would be enthusiastic about by-elections whereas those facing a tough time in their constituencies, if asked by some party leader to resign and re-contest, would say "anna, time baaga ledu...so and so is happening...let it cool down...I can't fight election now..."
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2015 - 08:46 am:       


Bluelagoon:

strong seats ante irrespective of paristhuthuu gelichevi kadha

gaali unnappudu gelecevi strong seats kaadhu



In this context, only the perceived ability to win in that by-election (not necessarily all future elections too) would've affected the decision to go for a by-election or not. If you're suggesting that at the time of the by-election YSRCP had (on average) the same strength in the 16 that went for by-election as well as the 278 that didn't then you have a poor understanding of our politicians. If they think they will lose, they will go to the extent of Srinivas Yadav (or the TRS leadership that is guiding him) in avoiding a by-election. If they think they will win, they will show the enthusiasm of YS Vijaya or KCR (in 2001 - Siddipet) who jumped into a by-election with a good chunk of their term remaining.
Those who want to join a party but are not sure of winning if they defect officially and cause a by-election generally tend to wait till the end of their term even if that raises ethical questions and embarrasses them.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2015 - 04:39 am:       

strong seats ante irrespective of paristhuthuu gelichevi kadha

gaali unnappudu gelecevi strong seats kaadhu

ysrcp gelichinavi 16 seats lo 10 seats atleast strong seats kaadhu
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 02:37 pm:       


Bluelagoon:

antah strong seats ayithe geberal elctions lo aa 16 seats lo 6 ee endhuku geustharu



Some of the candidates were not the same. I am not sure of the details but I won't be surprised if some of those candidates left the party. Some like Payakaraopet Ex-MLA were shifted to another constituency etc. Also, anti-incumbency may have crept up by 2014.
If you are suggesting that the seats that went to by-election were randomly picked or picked only on basis of affinity to Jagan without any regard to the candidate or the party's perceived strength at that time, then I can't help you. It is common sense that those in areas where YSRCP is weak would be averse to the idea of joining YSRCP and going for by-election and also those candidates who are not a strong footing would also hesitate to go for a by-election (see TRS/Srinivas Yadav issue...)
The reason why only one MLA out of 119 resigned and contested in support of Jagan is obvious. It is because YSRCP was weak. That one candidate (Konda Surekha) did so on her perception of her own personal strength. Reddy dominated (such as Nellore) and Christian dominated (such as Payakaraopet) places saw more resignations and defections to YSRCP followed by by-elections.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 02:26 pm:       


Bluelagoon:

Also, during that period TDP didn't cause any strategic by-elections. TRS and Jaggu caused by-elections in some carefully selected seats where they or their candidates thought they were strong. And since they were the ones who caused the by-elections, they had the first move advantage. ///

antah strong seats ayithe geberal elctions lo aa 16 seats lo 6 ee endhuku geustharu




Calculation debba thinnocchu kathaa

KCR caused byelection most of the time to ignit T-sentiment.

Jagan also to keep success momentum he caused by election making the MLAs who are strong in their home turf to resign and contest them again
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 02:16 pm:       


Bluelagoon:

antah strong seats ayithe geberal elctions lo aa 16 seats lo 6 ee endhuku geustharu




diff time diff equations
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:53 pm:       

Also, during that period TDP didn't cause any strategic by-elections. TRS and Jaggu caused by-elections in some carefully selected seats where they or their candidates thought they were strong. And since they were the ones who caused the by-elections, they had the first move advantage. ///

antah strong seats ayithe geberal elctions lo aa 16 seats lo 6 ee endhuku geustharu
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:46 pm:       

meeru cheppindhi oka instance lonive kadha. paiga appudu kooda those seats are less compared to what other parties won at that time. it can be considered as a loss only.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:38 pm:       

Myth: TDP didn't win even one seat in by-elections between 2004-14

Fact: In 2008, TDP won Warangal Lok Sabha seat, Secunderabad, Station Ghanpur, and Ramayampet assembly seats.

Also, during that period TDP didn't cause any strategic by-elections. TRS and Jaggu caused by-elections in some carefully selected seats where they or their candidates thought they were strong. And since they were the ones who caused the by-elections, they had the first move advantage. They started ground work even before other parties realized their "cause a by-election" strategy. And they did one of two rounds of campaigning before other parties could even decide their candidates.

ATTN: Jai_YCP and Botsa_fan
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963

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