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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 02:45 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

there is nothing random in this universe, any outcome is based on some conditions. as long as we don't know these conditions or quantitatively measure these conditions, things appear random.





Jambalahaart_raja:

I have come to believe that Events are predetermined, Outcomes are not. Outcomes may lead to other predetermined Events. So as they say, there are numerous possibilities.




Butterfly effect, everything is connected, everything is made of the same material - Star Stuff!!!
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:29 pm:       


Andhrawala:

Naasthikulu accident antaaaru



what is the difference between accident and fate.

its jut the "knowing" part that makes it different. if we know that a comet is traveling the direction of earth and it hits it, is it still an accident?

the assumption here is that people who believe in fate, believe that there is an entity that knows it and perhaps controls it too.

there is nothing random in this universe, any outcome is based on some conditions. as long as we don't know these conditions or quantitatively measure these conditions, things appear random.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:28 pm:       


Rajusk:

but oral tradition undi kada..

there might have been few losses over the period of time..because of oral tradition..




yes i agree but lack of documentation is the root of distrust in people like Mr.Hyderabad. history lo okati true ani prove avvalante references plurality vundali. that mean mana scripts lo Dariaus 1 was ruler of persia ani raasthe adhe time lo iranian scripts lo same mention of indian kings vunte, it is considered as evidence. unfortunate ga we dont have references of such in ramayana and mahabharath so westerners discredit them
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:23 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

anduke meeku oldest transcripts 5th century BC mundu dorkavu like such as one in iron age.




transcripts levu emo..but oral tradition undi kada..

there might have been few losses over the period of time..because of oral tradition..
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:19 pm:       


Thelegend:



Road meeda nee maanana nuvvu pothunte, pai nunche plane vachhi mana car meedha padithe, dhaani emantaru? Fate aa kada?




Naasthikulu accident antaaaru
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:15 pm:       


Rajusk:

Panini vunkul..the grand sire of all Sanskrit grammar puttindi around this time kada..ayana motham written rules rasaru on already existing usage of Sanskrit..

meaning he created the rules and retro fitted them to already existing literature in Sanskrit..kada




historically Dariaus the great was ruling persia in 5th centuray BC, he visited india and was really surprised that we dont not have literary accounts. taravthe we started documenting stuff. anduke meeku oldest transcripts 5th century BC mundu dorkavu like such as one in iron age.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:10 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

problem is we dont have any literature till 4th century BC. so it must have got distorted when it passed from generation to generation.




Panini vunkul..the grand sire of all Sanskrit grammar puttindi around this time kada..ayana motham written rules rasaru on already existing usage of Sanskrit..

meaning he created the rules and retro fitted them to already existing literature in Sanskrit..kada
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:08 pm:       

It's not whether you believe it or not, Fate is real kada?

Road meeda nee maanana nuvvu pothunte, pai nunche plane vachhi mana car meedha padithe, dhaani emantaru? Fate aa kada?
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:04 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

- Average age of humans in india/asia at that time was only 25-35 years.. doesn't match with age of almost all of the MB characters
- We (indians) didn't know how to use horses for wars at that time.. Horses ni machika chesukovadam, train cheyadam came to us much later
- our entire india/asia population is much less than 18 akshohinulu (total army involved in the war) as stated by mahaabhaaratham
- we didn't have means to travel cross country at that time. but many references where people in MB traveled across the country




veetiki proofs levu. only theory tappa. manaku telisina theory ee correct anedhi kooda intolerance ee.

typically any story has poetic usage of words which cant be interpreted the same after multiple centuries.

bhoomi baddalayentha sound vachindi ante ippudu antha decimal ekkada vundi ela produce ayyindhi emi chebuthamu. they are expressions.

for example a write might known only some portion of earth. bhoomi nalugu cheruguluki velladu ante it means not literally all 4 corners of the world but known and civilized world on the writers behalf laga.

i belive there is some story happenned but lot of masala got added over time. problem is we dont have any literature till 4th century BC. so it must have got distorted when it passed from generation to generation.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:55 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

Mahabharatam jarigindi ani chebutunna time line lo mana desam lo vunna situations doesn't match with mahabharatam


Mahabharataam raasinde/jariginde cheppadaniki the magnitude of events we will see in "Kali"yuga
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:53 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:




perfect ezample
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:52 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

Do you believe in fate?


http://www.chitramala.in/actor-prashanth-falls-from-building -dies-208070.html
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:48 pm:       

i do believe in destiny,

but ala ani gali lo deepam petti devudaa ante kudaradu

do your work some % will be your destiny
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:47 pm:       


Rajusk:

Imagination ani meeru prove cheyyagalara


jarigindi ani meeru prove cheyyagalaraa? :-)

Mahabharatam jarigindi ani chebutunna time line lo mana desam lo vunna situations doesn't match with mahabharatam

- Average age of humans in india/asia at that time was only 25-35 years.. doesn't match with age of almost all of the MB characters
- We (indians) didn't know how to use horses for wars at that time.. Horses ni machika chesukovadam, train cheyadam came to us much later
- our entire india/asia population is much less than 18 akshohinulu (total army involved in the war) as stated by mahaabhaaratham
- we didn't have means to travel cross country at that time. but many references where people in MB traveled across the country
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:41 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

okati maatram super about mahaabhaaratam... aa time lo.. inta complex sotry ni just pure imagination or konni incidents base chesukoni (inspired story as we call it)inta pedda story raasaaru ante simply no words

latest gaa oka sabha parvam episode lo 'naarada maharshi' gives some tips to Dharma raaju about governance / administration.. like scholarships to physically handicapped, paavala vaddi to merchants and lot more... they are still applicable to till date.. how did they write such things in those days.. amazing




Mahabharatam jariginadhi. SO adhi history aka charithra. konchem fiction vundocchu kaani real gaa jariginadhii

More to know from mahabhartam is rajaneethi which is valid even today
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:39 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

.. inta complex sotry ni just pure imagination or konni incidents base chesukoni (ins




Imagination ani meeru prove cheyyagalara:D
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:38 pm:       


Bunty717:

okaru atheist ante every week thrds esi nen atheist ani cheppatam enduku.. idi emaina qualification naa or fashion ..




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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:37 pm:       


Rajusk:

Already Mahabharatam vintunnadu anta..
Appudu eppudo Chaganti ispeeches vinnanu annadu..


okati maatram super about mahaabhaaratam... aa time lo.. inta complex sotry ni just pure imagination or konni incidents base chesukoni (inspired story as we call it)inta pedda story raasaaru ante simply no words

latest gaa oka sabha parvam episode lo 'naarada maharshi' gives some tips to Dharma raaju about governance / administration.. like scholarships to physically handicapped, paavala vaddi to merchants and lot more... they are still applicable to till date.. how did they write such things in those days.. amazing
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:30 pm:       

naaki okkati artham avadu.. okaru atheist ante every week thrds esi nen atheist ani cheppatam enduku.. idi emaina qualification naa or fashion ..

evari istam valladi..

nen God ni nammnau.. kaani enduku alaa chestaaro naaki teliyaali ippude teliyaali ani enduku lolli..
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:21 pm:       

We created GOD.
manaki emanna theleenappudu or explain cheyyalenappudu convenient gaa GOD ni use chesukovachu ani kanipettukunnam.
Not only that.. using GOD we can control people, keep things in order.
We can use him to keep peace or destroy others in the name of him.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:20 pm:       


Urumi:

ilaa anukuntune appudappudu taluchukuntunnaaru. ekkado oka moola devudi meeda nammakame ee thread veyyinchinattundi




Already Mahabharatam vintunnadu anta..

Appudu eppudo Chaganti ispeeches vinnanu annadu..

I did neither..Adi matter:D
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:15 pm:       


Rajusk:

TTD vallu utsava vigrahalu NJ lo puja organize sesinappudu first line lo nilsonnadi manode


of course..Home department nunchi pressure annadu..which might be possible :D




idi oka rakamaina aitheism..kiki

dammu unte RGV laaga thoda kotaali..

HD gurinchi, parents gurinchi ani cheppatam kaadi..
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:13 pm:       


mrhyd:

i don't believe in god


ilaa anukuntune appudappudu taluchukuntunnaaru. ekkado oka moola devudi meeda nammakame ee thread veyyinchinattundi :P
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:12 pm:       


Andhrawala:

Have u been to temple at all




TTD vallu utsava vigrahalu NJ lo puja organize sesinappudu first line lo nilsonnadi manode


of course..Home department nunchi pressure annadu..which might be possible :D

two religions vallu oka intlo undaga lenidi..one believer one non-believer undochu kada..
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:11 pm:       

Manamu cheyani thappulu ki mana family suffer enduku avuthayi ..

How does god punishes the guilty ..
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:09 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

Already DB lo majority know that i am an atheist.. so i don't believe in god or fate any thing of that sort.. trying to understand the rationale of those who believe in fate.. or i may be wrong and someone can correct me




Pooja assalu cheyaraaa??

Have u been to temple at all
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:08 pm:       

 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:06 pm:       

Big Bang - based on the factors when it happened like mass, veloicity etc.. it is predetermined on how it is going to end.
same applies to everything
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:05 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

What about all the bad guys who cheat, kill, rape so many innocents and still live happy life and die.. lot of people might pay for their sins in this life but there are lot more who don't get punished in this life.. who cares what price they pay in next life?



Sony:



every person comes into this world with some assets....and do good acts which are his Cash/Investments he accrue over time
and his bad deeds are his expenses/liablities

now in your daily life sometimes expenses bring you happiness and investments might bring you worries......samething with good acts and bad acts


 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:03 pm:       


Chillarodu:




I do believe God just creates us

But it's our deeds decides our life
Either prior or current or next etc

It's nature law and nobody can change not even God
Driving is my PASSION.
Ball or Bimmer does not matter.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:03 pm:       


Chillarodu:

Are you saying God will use someone to kill another and after using him he will also make sure he gets the punishment?




I am not saying anthing vunkl.. if me killing some one is designed by God, so is my punishment anutunaan.. and which he also designed that the other person will get killed. its an observation.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:03 pm:       

death logic okkati god control lo untundi.. adi naku thelidu kani... migilindantha god is really a fair master.. oka paddathi prakaram behave chesthadu.. no partiality/bull dozibg.. nu choose cheskune prathi option ki thana reaction untundi.. ala..


ur life is the combination of choices u choose and god's reaction for them
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:02 pm:       

Yes, there is no randomness. Everything is predetermined.
No matter how much you think you are in control of yourself, you are not
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:00 pm:       

life is never a single player game.. it is like chess.. where god reacts only to ur steps. nothing is predefined.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:59 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

there is flaw in your understanding. if Siva decided that you should kill someone, he also decided that you shoud get punishment for it.




Are you saying God will use someone to kill another and after using him he will also make sure he gets the punishment?
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:53 am:       


Mrhyderabad:




I do believe in fate but
It's not possible to change the fate in practical
It's like your answer paper out of hundred questions you answered 99 questions correctly and for one question u answered wrong then it's still wrong
Fate is like that we might have done very good deeds in our past present life still whatever mistakes or wrong deeds we did will not be erased and every one have to pay for their wrong deeds

It's nature law
Driving is my PASSION.
Ball or Bimmer does not matter.
 

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Mrhyderabad:

What about all the bad guys who cheat, kill, rape so many innocents and still live happy life and die.. lot of people might pay for their sins in this life but there are lot more who don't get punished in this life.. who cares what price they pay in next life?




not sure if i understand right. why should it matter to a third person, if a certain person gets punished or not?
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:42 am:       


Jambalahaart_raja:


anani, i don't believe in fate. Already DB lo majority know that i am an atheist.. so i don't believe in god or fate any thing of that sort.. trying to understand the rationale of those who believe in fate.. or i may be wrong and someone can correct me
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:39 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

there is flaw in your understanding. if Siva decided that you should kill someone, he also decided that you shoud get punishment for it.


anduke kadaa thread asking for enlightenment :-) DB is not the right place ani anakandi.. we have en lighted souls like you, anand and many others

What about all the bad guys who cheat, kill, rape so many innocents and still live happy life and die.. lot of people might pay for their sins in this life but there are lot more who don't get punished in this life.. who cares what price they pay in next life?
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:30 am:       


Mrhyderabad:

prathi 'kadalika' is managed / operated by almighty..



mee laanti do-it-yourself multi-millionnaire mindset vunnollu ilaa maattaadakoodadu!!!

4 years lo restaurant chain franchise create sesaar from scratch...
inkaa yevevo investments choosthunnaar..
happy married life with good kids...
professional, public, personal, private lives anni bangaaram!!!
meeru FATE ante WTF laa vundi!!!
"Chill Bro.
I told you to let it go!!"
- The Budhha.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:29 am:       


Mrhyderabad:

so who is responsible if someone kills / cheat / rapes someone ??




there is flaw in your understanding. if Siva decided that you should kill someone, he also decided that you shoud get punishment for it.:D.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:28 am:       

I believe in wat goes around, comes around...

Nuvvu manchi cheste, it will come around... chedu cheste, it will come around... of course it is not related to extreme situations like deaths etc etc..

Extreme cases la when shit happens to you and if u ask urself 'whyme' - i dnt think u will have an answer.. the only answer u might get is 'tala raata', 'already decided', 'purva janma paapam' blah blah..
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:27 am:       


Urumi:

sivudi aagna lenide cheema ayina kadaladu


exactly my point.. prathi 'kadalika' is managed / operated by almighty.. so who is responsible if someone kills / cheat / rapes someone ??
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:27 am:       


Mrhyderabad:


Do you believe you can define / change your fate with your good deeds/actions?




not just our actions, even mana pakka valla actions can change our fate. disco washte...

people like to believe they are in control..whether they believe in fate or not.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:24 am:       

1) Yes I do. I have countless examples in my own life, and my dear ones. The turn-of-events when I was standing right-in-the-middle cannot be explained.
2) I have come to believe that Events are predetermined, Outcomes are not. Outcomes may lead to other predetermined Events. So as they say, there are numerous possibilities.
3) Having said that, yes, one can change their fate, or the sequence of Events, by playing the game right. Awareness about the outcomes at every event, in other words, staying Prepared!!! Because, every event is a fresh new experience in life..
Zindagi mein bahut kuch pehli baar hota hai!!!
"Chill Bro.
I told you to let it go!!"
- The Budhha.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:23 am:       


Mrhyderabad:

Who decides whether new born kid is going to be a good guy or bad guy? If his fate was already decided then the choices he makes are not really his choices right?




i think i posted on this some time back

every person comes into this world with some assets....and do good acts which are his Cash/Investments he accrue over time
and his bad deeds are his expenses/liablities

now in your daily life sometimes expenses bring you happiness and investments might bring you worries......samething with good acts and bad acts

eod you will suffer pain, enjoy happiness and keep struggling

Lazy guys also struggle at their own level, which might not be applicable to you
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:22 am:       


Mrhyderabad:



come on.. neelo vunna modern philosopher ni nidra lepi post cheyyamani cheppu :-)




Aadu levanantunnad... Friday is for Fun :D
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:21 am:       

sivudi aagna lenide cheema ayina kadaladu
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:19 am:       


Sony:

catch is aa "aa tala raatha lo kuda daily struggle in life ane raasi undi"


If i just want to be lazy and do nothing then what happens? Are my actions also pre-defined?

Who decides whether new born kid is going to be a good guy or bad guy? If his fate was already decided then the choices he makes are not really his choices right?
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:16 am:       


Amaravathi:




come on.. neelo vunna modern philosopher ni nidra lepi post cheyyamani cheppu :-)
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:15 am:       


Mrhyderabad:

If you believe that it has already been decided then why the daily struggle in life? "Tala raatha elaa raasi vunte alaa jarugutundi" ani musugu tanni tongovachu kadaa




catch is aa "aa tala raatha lo kuda daily struggle in life ane raasi undi"
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:15 am:       

Do you believe you can define / change your fate with your good deeds/actions

ANSWER IS YES

by our good deeds and actions our fate wil change ..but its not like instantaneous coffee time gap between good deed and the results is NO ONE CAN GUESS but definitely fate willc hange with good deed
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:12 am:       


Mrhyderabad:

Do you believe in fate?





Believing in whose fate?
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:11 am:       

Do you believe in fate?

Do you believe you can define / change your fate with your good deeds/actions? Or do you believe that everything has already been decided by almighty?

If you believe that it has already been decided then why the daily struggle in life? "Tala raatha elaa raasi vunte alaa jarugutundi" ani musugu tanni tongovachu kadaa
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein

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