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Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 09:45 pm:       


Tilak:





mamata ni force chesina credit BJP di.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 09:42 pm:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

Thanks to Social Media, and access to it in India. People are realizing only now. And with BJP in power, all will get exposed. Netaji files is an example.


BJP kante mundu files de-classify chesi political points kotteyyalani .. Mamta released them first .. good one .. :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 10:13 am:       

RIP. I have no idea about him. chala discussions and some challenges in thread.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 10:01 am:       

Corporate and communist societies lo aithe stopping discussions possible. Open societies lo debates will go on whether we like it or not - that too in this day and age with media explosion and internet. NO CHANCE.

Asalu cheppalante 60 years country had only one version - the SICKULAR, CONGRESS VERSION. Silent masses were managed by fake-GANDHIs and foreign funded NGOs, CHINA-sponsored LEFTISTS, Feminist groups who dont see problems outside Mumbai, Delhi and other metros, Human resources teaching fake history to Children.

Thanks to Social Media, and access to it in India. People are realizing only now. And with BJP in power, all will get exposed. Netaji files is an example.

You should be ready to hear a lot more. Trivializing Modi to photo-ops, suits etc will be a mistake.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 09:56 am:       


Anand_n:

Anduke act chesinappudu matladadam annanu - till then you get to keep your hope, I get to keep my skepticism






Suffose, for suffose, issue 10 years tharvaata lepithe, ippudu yenduku waste, anthaa baagundi kadha, Modi chedagodutunnadu development ni ani kooda anocchu.


Sometimes Democracy is a cacophy, every puruses their agenda which are at cross-purposes with others. But asalu no talking antay, it wont stop.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 01:45 am:       


Lichtenberg:


Evening choosta .. Thank you ..

How is life? All good? :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 01:23 am:       


Lichtenberg:

Thikka and other yuuth,


bathikinchaav... 'and Other youth' anakunda 'and youth' anesunte :D... Anyway, will listen in evening and post back here..... Thank you....
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Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 12:54 am:       


Anand_n:

lol as a manager I also know how to go with multiple prongs, address the intangibles alongside the tangibles obviously it's not a priority for this govt. and till it becomes one their followers have no ground to whine about prior ones ...


right things at right time .. always important ..

and followers have their freedom of speech .. that cant be foregone bcoz of current limitations .. and past is always concrete .. we can always identify and discuss the issues .. so that we dont repeat them again ..
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Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 12:42 am:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:




Anduke act chesinappudu matladadam annanu - till then you get to keep your hope, I get to keep my skepticism :-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 11:49 pm:       

Tilak, Thikka and other yuuth,
Take time and watch this two part video "Conversion is violence". Criticizes the missionary lunacy of trying to convert all "others" like us. What happens when proselytizing religions and non-proselytizing religions co-exist? He gives an example of a constable(state) watching silently when violent ppl beat up a non-violent one? What is state's role here?

Part-1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4sEMVJuDCY
Part-2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnAo65rcye4
 

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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 11:42 pm:       


Anand_n:


Dum unte UCC implement cheyyandi, remove claim to endowments - when BJP is able to do that then let's talk ...





Anand_n:

Poddunna leste secularism ni titte vallu chadavalsina article by Swamiji ...





Anand_n:

Till India achieves separation of state and religion





Anand_n:

High time people stopped crying about past and do what needs to be done now...





Last 60 years lo institutional, political, media, grass roots level lo partly-secular, pseudo-secular values chaala deep gaa marri chettu oodalla perigaayi.

Okka saari major issues ni shake cheste, BJP ki foundation kadultundi. They recognize the need for change kaani political surival, withstanding is necessary.

Modi itlanti issues RAC lo yetti jobs/economy ki berth confirm chesadu.


Pakistan ni BJP and many Hindu groups violent ga oppose chestaayi. Mari power loki vacharu ani kaneesam country lo ki velli camps ni destroy kooda cheyyatledu. Why? Pakistan will retaliate and the loss will be enormous for us. Game needs to be played at international diplomatic level.


Its not a question about Dum and taking action immediately.


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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 11:25 pm:       


Tilak:



lol as a manager I also know how to go with multiple prongs, address the intangibles alongside the tangibles :-) obviously it's not a priority for this govt. and till it becomes one their followers have no ground to whine about prior ones ...:-)

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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 11:16 pm:       


Anand_n:

So what's the problem there ?


Simple, as a manager you would know - FOCUS .. focus on governance for the short-medium term .. do not disturb any issue that can be a pandora box for a few years ..
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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 11:10 pm:       


Anand_n:

Irony emiti ante - was talking to my friend and the first thing she asked can he read faces/ tell future ? That is what people look for in Swamis and babas, not knowledge ..so the people who do dispense pure knowledge do not generate the mass hysteria others do


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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 09:29 pm:       


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It's a 3 minute video :-)

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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 12:37 pm:       


Anand_n:

this is a short video of him explaining why people need to learn Vedanta




thank you :-)
enduko ee topics naaku ekke chance ledu ani epudoo soodaledu ilantivi, will try :-)
 

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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 11:13 am:       


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no offense, your friend does not represent people.

how do you define pure knowledge ? i have zero understanding of philosophy, so am trying to understand how a subjective thing can be rated absolutely




I used 'pure' as a adjective of what was dispensed - as in 'only' knowledge, not miraculous substances, powers or remedies - Ayina dispense chese knowledge absolute or not ani judge chese arhata naku ledu :-)

Chala objective ga simple ga vedantam explain chesaru, teach chesaru ..this is a short video of him explaining why people need to learn Vedanta
http://youtu.be/91S5Q5bO0tA

Rudraksha,
I am in Texas so Chicago prog out of question...:-) but will definitely do it if they perform in our town:-)

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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 10:04 am:       

Lax Annai

He is Swamy dayananda
Chaala pedda swamiji
Chaala old
Monna monne aam phatt ayyadu
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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 10:02 am:       

evaru ithanu.oka 2 lines lo cheppandi evaraina
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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 09:56 am:       


Gatti_gunde:

Tingannai meeku avasarama ilaanti theds




:D

ee swamijis ante naaku pedda manchi opinion ledu. vallalo good and bad ani ela decide sestaru. nuv seppu
 

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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 09:54 am:       

Tingannai meeku avasarama ilaanti theds

Either stocks , uppar meeting or movies ee areas lo ne thiragandi
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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 09:44 am:       


Anand_n:

first thing she asked can he read faces/ tell future ? That is what people look for in Swamis and babas, not knowledge .




no offense, your friend does not represent people.

how do you define pure knowledge ? i have zero understanding of philosophy, so am trying to understand how a subjective thing can be rated absolutely
 

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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 09:04 am:       

chicago, dbers ki naa last post lo second para...
 

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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 08:50 am:       


Anand_n:

naku org kanna Swamiji parichayam


. We (few local music school students and parents) were thinking of visiting Swamiji in PA and sing few songs that he composed himself...unfortunately we could not coordinate and postponed. Very unfortunate to miss the opportunity.

Anyway, the same charity event with the same performance is coming to Chicago, IL on Oct 2, if possible attend it.

http://aimforsevausa-public.sharepoint.com/Pages/Chicago.asp x
 

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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 08:24 am:       


Anand_n:

had the good fortune to have him visit my home and I got to visit his ashrams and meet him too




Itla intiki free gaa vache Swamijis ante janalaki chinna choopu ivvala repu..

Prathi Daaniki oka rate undali antaru..:D
 

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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 08:20 am:       


Anand_n:

the first thing she asked can he read faces/ tell future ?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9y2SvSBfag
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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 08:11 am:       


Rudraksha:




Good to know andi - naku org kanna Swamiji parichayam thanks to my grandmother & mom and I love his lectures and books - had the good fortune to have him visit my home and I got to visit his ashrams and meet him too :-)

Irony emiti ante - was talking to my friend and the first thing she asked can he read faces/ tell future ? That is what people look for in Swamis and babas, not knowledge ..so the people who do dispense pure knowledge do not generate the mass hysteria others do :-)

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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 07:59 am:       


Tilak:




Lol, poni UCC vote bank land mine, who is stopping the govt from pulling out of temple interference and appropriating of temple funds ? Who is resisting that ? I am sure the Hindu majority will love the give for doing that and the minorities will not care ? So what's the problem there ?

High time people stopped crying about past and do what needs to be done now...

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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2015 - 12:08 am:       

1955 lo Hindu code techinappude .. Ambedkar asked Nehru to go for UCC .. kaani he deliberately kept out minorities .. and the congi sickular eco system strengthened the minority licking system for 68 years .. vallani emi anedi undadu .. kaani development planck meeda elect aina BJP (without 2/3rds majority) .. vachina ventane UCC implement chesi .. "Dum" entho niroopinchukovali .. LOL
>>>>

Nehru chesina droham endhukule enni thittina waste.
 

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1955 lo Hindu code techinappude .. Ambedkar asked Nehru to go for UCC .. kaani he deliberately kept out minorities .. and the congi sickular eco system strengthened the minority licking system for 68 years .. vallani emi anedi undadu .. kaani development planck meeda elect aina BJP (without 2/3rds majority) .. vachina ventane UCC implement chesi .. "Dum" entho niroopinchukovali .. LOL

County swimming championships gelichina ventane .. dammunte .. Atlantic eedi choopinchu ani rechagodithe super strategy kada ..
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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 08:29 pm:       


Chillarodu:


yes, @Hartford,CT
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 08:29 pm:       


Rudraksha:

event




in US?
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 08:27 pm:       


Anand_n:


Today we had a charity event "AIM for SEVA" ( and the dance performance was mind blowing. never seen such bharatnatyam dance drama before. The event raised nearly 50K (that is about sponsoring 110 students for one year). very happy to be part of the event.
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 08:25 pm:       


Lichtenberg:




Swami Dayananda Saraswati — a master exponent of the inclusive Hindu philosophy who declared there was not ‘ONE GOD,’ but ‘ONLY GOD,’
a teacher of Vedanta who created hundreds of teachers to continue the ancient Indian tradition, a great organiser who founded the Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha
as the representative body of unorganised Hindu religious traditions, a philosopher who harmonised and validated, from the Hindu perspective of
theo-diversity, all forms of worship from paganism to monism, an intellectual who re-articulated and established that religious conversion, regarded as the right of evangelist religions, is itself violence, and finally a patriot saint who, like Maharishi Aurobindo and Swami Vivekananda did, saw, in the ancient nation of India, the very manifestation of all that he had learnt and taught — is no more.


sorry.. first sentence chadiva. I could'nt go any further..
intha peddha sentence aa?
I tried to read 3 times and couldn't understand.

by the way, do I need to be a Hindu to understand this?
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 08:15 pm:       


Anand_n:

Poddunna leste secularism ni titte vallu chadavalsina article by Swamiji ...





Anand_n:

Dum unte UCC implement cheyyandi,


 

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 08:06 pm:       


Chillarodu:




It comes off differently when u quote part of a sentence. Most swamijis don't talk abt how "secularism" works in India.....They talk at a higher level of abstractions about dharma or philosophy, not at a low-level state-religion interaction. That's why I said that.
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 08:01 pm:       


Lichtenberg:

One of a few swamis who understood




 

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 07:54 pm:       


Lichtenberg:




You personally may not care about UCC- there are others who disagree..

Till India achieves separation of state and religion , this will be a problem ...the order in which it's done is irrelevant...

Anyways have to go...you guys continue debating

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 07:47 pm:       


Anand_n:

Dum unte UCC implement cheyyandi, remove claim to endowments - when BJP is able to do that then let's talk ...



I give a damn about UCC.....I don't care if a Mulsim have how many wives....this is different...
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 07:39 pm:       


Lichtenberg:




Fix the implementation.. Like Swamiji suggested - divest state interest in religion..junking secularism is not the answer

Otherwise what is the difference between these people who bash secularism and those who bash Hinduism cos there are areas where it is implemented wrong ?

Dum unte UCC implement cheyyandi, remove claim to endowments - when BJP is able to do that then let's talk ...

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 07:30 pm:       


Anand_n:




enti theory recognize chesi next step enti?

Most ppl I've seen deriding secularism in India r ppl who r pissed off with this sham......exclusive laws which constrain Hindus running schools/temples, exlucive govt schemes for minorities, banning Hindu festivals etc.,
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 05:54 pm:       


Lichtenberg:




I know what Swamiji is saying ... I have been listening to him and reading his works for many decades now :-)

Glad that you recognize the difference between the philosophy and Indian implementation.. I posted that for people who don't..

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 05:36 pm:       


Anand_n:



Swamiji is saying Indian secularism is a sham(though in nicer words).......there is no rule of law....law is not applied equally to all religions

The Constitution ensures this required
separation by the prohibition of religious
instruction in state schools, and of taxes to
support any particular religion. But it also
mandates to ensure religious freedom
breaks down in the constitutional sanction
for state interference in religious affairs. The
trouble is the unequal application of this sanction. This sanction is used for state
administration of temples and maths, state
appropriation of temple land and donations,
even legislation of who should be admitted
into the temples. On the other hand, in
dealing with minority religions, there are
political constraints, which restrict the
interference. But in respect of the majority,
there is no political constraint. As a result,
the state has taken over places of worship
and collection of revenue from offerings of
the majority religion, but not others.
Moreover, such revenue can be
redistributed for other purposes, including
maintenance of institutions of other
religions, even those which are opposed to
the majority religion. It has also led to the
discriminatory modification of personal
religious laws. The religious laws of some
minority religions supersede parliamentary
laws, while for the majority religion,
parliamentary law has been enacted to
supersede religious laws. This unequal
treatment of religions by the state has
created legitimate grounds for discord. And
different civil or criminal laws for different
groups, religious or otherwise, is the
antithesis of secularism. If secularism is the
aim, it is, therefore, necessary to find an
alternative to the current relationship
between state and religion. And whether it
is called secularism or something else, such
change is necessary if there is to be unity,
and at the same time, religious freedom in
this country.
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 05:14 pm:       

Poddunna leste secularism ni titte vallu chadavalsina article by Swamiji ...
http://www.arshavidya.in/Newsletter/May14/secularism.pdf

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 04:49 pm:       

His absence is such a loss to the nation ..
Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 02:55 pm:       

thx bro..good read
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 02:37 pm:       

http://www.newindianexpress.com/columns/s_gurumurthy/Swami-D ayananda-The-Patriot-Saint/2015/09/25/article3046427.ece

One of a few swamis who understood the state stifling Hindu educational inst/temples and how the state encourages the onslaught of the two imperial religions. A great contributor.

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