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Musicfan
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Post Number: 485 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 66.117.193.162
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2015 - 02:39 pm: |
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Cinejeevi:The lifespan of Brahma is 100 Brahma years, or 72,000 kalpas, or 311.04 trillion human years.
And in this is not limited to one brahma. There are innumerable brahmas.. as per Brahma, vishnu, Romasi, ashtavakra story Srimanthudu - Audio review |
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Musicfan
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Post Number: 484 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 66.117.193.162
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Cinejeevi:universe does NOT get destroyed at the end of every Yuga. It takes a very very big cycle and yugas continue..
What I meant was end of Kaliyuga. One universe is divided into 4 yugas and once 4 end that universe cycle ends. Srimanthudu - Audio review |
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Musicfan
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Post Number: 483 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 66.117.193.162
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2015 - 02:28 pm: |
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Jambalahaart_raja:Vinaasa kaaley vipareetha budhhi antaaru...
The human birth is predefined in many terms but not exactly what we talk and what we do daily and how much we suffer. The predefined things are parents, siblings, relatives, friends and an outline of what we do, how do we live, where do we live, suffering timeline, date/time of birth/death and other things. There is some rough calculation based on analysis and research is that 60-65% of our life is ruled by destiny, but 35-40% is bases on our actions. However the severity of this 35% that can change 65% is based on your intellect, spiritual practice, Guru's grace and your upasana. How buddi helps effect your karma is based on how much intellect you acquire. Geeta says Na sochayati panditaaha, meaning if we acquire knowledge enough that you know the difference between suffering and non-suffering, even though we are destined to suffer, we dont. How law of Karma diverts us is that for example, we wanted to go in path A, but we are destined to go to Path B, so our mind keeps taking us to that path B irresepctive of whatever we do. Unless we have extreme command on our thoughts and actions with spiritual practice and Guru Krupa, we will be destined to go to B.
Jambalahaart_raja:What Astrology suggests about those two? Can Astrology even suggest the causative factor for a person's current situation?
Astrology can never suggest anything to anyone. It only indicates this might happen or this happend and somthing will impact us in one form or other. However we are the one need to decide with our will how do we react to that or if we belive it impacts how we over come that. Srimanthudu - Audio review |
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Cinejeevi
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Post Number: 2940 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2015 - 02:23 pm: |
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Rajusk:kaani naadi naa sethilo eppudu pedtharu..ade patram.. maa whyme kurrod ki ayana sethilo eppudu pedtharu..ade promotion
meeru repu poddunne lechi patram poojayaami, pushpam poojayami ani cheyyandi. meeku patram ayanaki "potram"  Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Post Number: 40798 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.248.8
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Cinejeevi:Brahma Years A year of Brahma is composed of 360 day/night cycles of Brahma, or 720 kalpas, or 8.64 billion human years. Brahma Days (Kalpas) A kalpa is a single daytime period in the life of Brahma, the creator god. Two kalpas are a day and a night of Brahma. Each kalpa is composed of 1,000 maha yugas. A kalpa is thus equal to 4.32 billion human years. Brahma Life The lifespan of Brahma is 100 Brahma years, or 72,000 kalpas, or 311.04 trillion human years.
idantha bagane undi.. kaani naadi naa sethilo eppudu pedtharu..ade patram.. maa whyme kurrod ki ayana sethilo eppudu pedtharu..ade promotion |
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Cinejeevi
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Post Number: 2939 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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Musicfan:One interesting concept few argue is that when universe gets destroyed and merged into Supreme self by end of a yuga, what is the hurry to get liberated when we are close to it, and its impossible to achieve.
universe does NOT get destroyed at the end of every Yuga. It takes a very very big cycle and yugas continue.. PUNARAPI JANANAM PUNARAPI MARANAM PUNARAPI JANANEE JATARE SAYANAM IHA SAMSAARE BAHUDUSTAARE KRIPAYAA(A)PAARE PAAHI MURARE Brahma Years A year of Brahma is composed of 360 day/night cycles of Brahma, or 720 kalpas, or 8.64 billion human years. Brahma Days (Kalpas) A kalpa is a single daytime period in the life of Brahma, the creator god. Two kalpas are a day and a night of Brahma. Each kalpa is composed of 1,000 maha yugas. A kalpa is thus equal to 4.32 billion human years. Brahma Life The lifespan of Brahma is 100 Brahma years, or 72,000 kalpas, or 311.04 trillion human years. At the end of the life of Brahma, all worlds are completely dissolved (mahapralaya). No one is reincarnated from these worlds ever again. Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Musicfan
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Post Number: 482 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 66.117.193.162
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2015 - 02:06 pm: |
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Cinejeevi:there is no hard and fast rule that only humans take human form in coming births. after certain janmas are over (from animal, insect and other forms) that jeevi might take human and vice versa. 84 lakshla types of jeevaraasi ani cheptaaru.
You are right there are 84 lakh types of Jeevas, However the forming of human birth is possible only when the count of Papam=Punyam. The glorification of the birth happens on how high/low is that number. Each type of form is taken by atma based on this count which is predefined. It is not decided that human birth is pre-requisite for human again. Also except for human life, there is no way to add or delete papa/punya. Other births burn one of the papam or punyam. But doesnt do both. Its Only possible in human life. There are three types of Karma, which results in good, bad and no result either doing it or not doing it. This is possible again only in human life. Bottom line, Since we are in Kaliyuga, it might be possible for 99% of us not get human form again or might be we might get another chance max. So live this life to the max. One interesting concept few argue is that when universe gets destroyed and merged into Supreme self by end of a yuga, what is the hurry to get liberated when we are close to it, and its impossible to achieve.  Srimanthudu - Audio review |
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Post Number: 6236 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 199.168.151.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2015 - 01:44 pm: |
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Whyme:naa pro motion eppudu vasthundantarooo
Summer ending chances ekkuva untayii ani vinanu } Snakes in Your backyard won't bite only your neighbours. #Hillary Clinton |
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Post Number: 14369 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.161.160.10
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astrologers thread aa naa promotion eppudu vasthundantarooo |
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Post Number: 6231 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 199.168.151.86
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 Snakes in Your backyard won't bite only your neighbours. #Hillary Clinton |
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Sony
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Post Number: 23595 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 170.48.19.252
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Cinejeevi:aatma is NOT affected. If one gets the consciousness that this NENU is not BODY but aatma he has no pain or becomes just witness to body
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Cinejeevi
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Post Number: 2926 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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Entiodu:okay..How is it justified to take pain and sufferings in the current birth for the deeds in previous birth when the aatma has no consince of previous birth? Because the scope of pain and happiness are limited to the body in one birth how does the main aatma is affected?
ivala vittanam veste repu mangos ravu gaa. idi antE.. aatma is NOT affected. If one gets the consciousness that this NENU is not BODY but aatma he has no pain or becomes just witness to body and it's pains like Sri Ramana Maharshi. Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Post Number: 8253 Registered: 09-2014 Posted From: 101.63.130.235
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Eti ee daram ila vundi |
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Entiodu
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Post Number: 1171 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 170.218.219.21
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2015 - 12:55 pm: |
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Cinejeevi:ruNam in previous birth will either take or pay it
Sasibabu:previous birth deeds anukovatame.
okay..How is it justified to take pain and sufferings in the current birth for the deeds in previous birth when the aatma has no consince of previous birth? Because the scope of pain and happiness are limited to the body in one birth how does the main aatma is affected? |
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Cinejeevi
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Post Number: 2924 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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Sasibabu:meeru kooda just belief ni follow avvatamenaa....leka any interesting tidbits vunnayaa about this theory
First you listen then think it makes sense or not. Check few incidents in close circle and start believe. I don't want to give any personal examples (not that i don't want to share) but if i start saying something it might offend few. hope u understand. Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Cinejeevi
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Post Number: 2923 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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Entiodu:What about small babies and kids who suffer?
To continue on this per Sastras we have few types of putrulu/santanam. ruNa, daasya, vairi etc., vaadu ibbandi padataadu and ibbandi pedatadu. okkosari only one okkoDu pudataadu. valla nanna edi cheppina vinaDu (wont listen) and does exactly opposite .. vairi putrudu. kitam janma lo edo satrutvam undi... ippudu ila vachchadu. inkodu oka 20/25 years undi sudden gaa bike accident lo vellipoTadu. batikunna parents ki life long narakam..  none of them are my own interpretations. There are many books on karma, janma etc., and excerpts from there whatever i recollect Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Sony
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Post Number: 23594 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 170.48.19.252
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Entiodu: What about small babies and kids who suffer?
this is combo of deeds for the parents and also kids in previous lives anduke peddalu em chebutaru ante, keep your ancestors pictures in your house and do sradha karmas every year....which is nothing but food for them....so ee sradha karma one will be feeding food to father, grand father, great grand father, 3 generations so ee 3 generations soul lo evaru happy ayina they want come back into own family.... anduke sometimes peoples say this kid is verymuch like so and so person 3 generations before ala anamata ippudu coming back to question, most important in life are 1. Health 2. Mother 3. Work 4. Wife 5. Kids ee 1-5 lo nunchi wealth generate avtundi adi secret |
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Sasibabu
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Post Number: 37239 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 206.29.176.52
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Cinejeevi:
meeru kooda just belief ni follow avvatamenaa....leka any interesting tidbits vunnayaa about this theory |
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Cinejeevi
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Post Number: 2922 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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Entiodu:What about small babies and kids who suffer?
In Karma theory it is NOT the only guy's karma it matters. It is attached/related to others. So those who have ruNam in previous birth will either take or pay it based on thier karmas to that respective persons. No exceptions. When the rules are SET they are set correctly. Only good part among all this is we never remember what happened in previous janma or for that matter what wrong we did few years back. When it comes into experience we fell sad.. Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Sasibabu
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Post Number: 37237 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 206.29.176.52
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Entiodu:What about small babies and kids who suffer?
previous birth deeds anukovatame...atleast manaku previous birth ane oka concept vundhi to say that the kids who suffer is based on past Karma ani mari ee abrahamic religions lo rebirth concept vundadhu kadhaa....how do they justify this? |
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Entiodu
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Post Number: 1170 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 170.218.219.22
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Sony:Karma balance is additions and subtractions, to assets anthe.....Assets are provided to you by god.....ee cash(punyam) what you build in this life or expenditures (papams) will be the rotating costs(karma) ippudu ee expenditures are way above your total balance meaning assts+expenditures pushes you int negative balance thats when you will see immediate effects in this life
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Sony
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Post Number: 23593 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 170.48.19.252
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Sasibabu:any incidents or interesting experiences vunnayaa to share here?
experiences ante looking in family itself you will observe I have seen in my mothers family and fathers family some are highly good and very well behaved and very well versed, very well in finances so ikkada not only money, character, way of life, health etc etc So some have it some dont have it, intro spect chesukunte manalo konni undavu ala telisipotundi |
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Sony
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Post Number: 23592 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 170.48.19.250
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Gsn1: I didn't restrict the theory to ONLY HUMANS. I mentioned ALL LIVING things.
nenu cheppina daanilone catch undi, we humans started as creatures, take human birth and again go back to other world where we will take other life, it can be any form.... ee life lo chesinavi, we carry it there |
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Sony
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Post Number: 23591 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 170.48.19.249
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Sasibabu:Sony jee.... what made you believe this ....kaneesam ANTA ane tag lekundaa kunda badhal kottesthunnaru.... this is how it is ani.... any incidents or interesting experiences vunnayaa to share here?
anta ane start chesanu, ante already i have doubt in my mind kada so what I learnt is from grand parents and parents....total belief. ala kunda badalu kottesinattu |
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Gsn1
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Sony ------------ we dont start at zero.....manava janma mundara 63 jeevi janmalu teesukovali, we dont start at zero.....manava janma mundara 63 jeevi janmalu teesukovali, ------------- I didn't restrict the theory to ONLY HUMANS. I mentioned ALL LIVING things. |
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Gsn1
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Post Number: 3606 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 174.78.225.66
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Sasi ------------- it starts with ZERO when aathma was created. Aathma takes many forms before born in human form .... vaati nundi accumulated Karma vuntundhi when you start a human life .... ------------ YES and TOTALLY AGREE. --------------- God does not predestine anything --------------- This is WHAT I WAS EXPECTING and it goes DIRECTLY against our beleifs that EVERYTHING IS PRE-DETERMINED and PRE-WRITTEN, which is WRONG. |
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Sasibabu
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Post Number: 37236 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 206.29.176.52
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Sony:
Sony jee.... what made you believe this ....kaneesam ANTA ane tag lekundaa kunda badhal kottesthunnaru.... this is how it is ani.... any incidents or interesting experiences vunnayaa to share here? |
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Cinejeevi
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Post Number: 2918 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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Gsn1:If it is ALL KARMA, then logically it has to START with ZERO balance for EVERY LIVING things and will be built based on one's OWN actions over few lifes until one gets MOKSHA. I am questioning thet BUILDING of KARMA score (either +vely or -vely). If GOD pre-determined (NUDHITI RAATHA), then accumulation of KARMA balance is also PREDETERMINED. So, that is where I was wondering that WHOLE concept is WRONG.
manaki telinadi or ardham kaani tappu ela avutundi?? mahaa praLayam tarvata (swalpa kaalika, aatyantika inkO renDu) it is said that Siva takes everyone into him. total layam and prasantam. Then he recreates all things fresh. by default every living person (human) has buddhi and three guNas. Now whatever one does with his guNas and buddhi decides his fate and further janmas. Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Sasibabu
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Post Number: 37235 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 206.29.176.52
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Gsn1:If it is ALL KARMA, then logically it has to START with ZERO
it starts with ZERO when aathma was created. Aathma takes many forms before born in human form .... vaati nundi accumulated Karma vuntundhi when you start a human life .... God does not predestine anything .... he is just a spectator of your Karma ... cycle of births mathrame and forms mathrame predestined. actions in those forms accumulates and based on the action your fate will have reaction .....ANTA |
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inthaki aa promotion vasthadi antara |
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Sony
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Post Number: 23590 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 170.48.19.250
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Gsn1: If it is ALL KARMA, then logically it has to START with ZERO balance for EVERY LIVING things and will be built based on one's OWN actions over few lifes until one gets MOKSHA. I am questioning thet BUILDING of KARMA score (either +vely or -vely). If GOD pre-determined (NUDHITI RAATHA), then accumulation of KARMA balance is also PREDETERMINED. So, that is where I was wondering that WHOLE concept is WRONG.
we dont start at zero.....manava janma mundara 63 jeevi janmalu teesukovali, so technically when you are born you already had the balance from those living things Karma balance is additions and subtractions, to assets anthe.....Assets are provided to you by god.....ee cash(punyam) what you build in this life or expenditures (papams) will be the rotating costs(karma) ippudu ee expenditures are way above your total balance meaning assts+expenditures pushes you int negative balance thats when you will see immediate effects in this life |
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CJ & Sasi The answers still doesn't explain the Hindu's mentioned beliefs. --------------- its all Karma which drives the fate... --------------- If it is ALL KARMA, then logically it has to START with ZERO balance for EVERY LIVING things and will be built based on one's OWN actions over few lifes until one gets MOKSHA. I am questioning thet BUILDING of KARMA score (either +vely or -vely). If GOD pre-determined (NUDHITI RAATHA), then accumulation of KARMA balance is also PREDETERMINED. So, that is where I was wondering that WHOLE concept is WRONG. |
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Bunty717:nen chusindi ayite.. enta DNK ayite antaa baaga unnadu.. settle ayedu.. enjoy chestunnadu..
eti ee roju mana eiws itta matching aipothunnay family lo chusanu, friends lo chusan, colleagues lo chusan entha edhava aithey antha well settled may be vadu manchodu emo, manamey natisthunnam emo manchollal laga ani doubting of india ee madhya  |
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Sasibabu
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Post Number: 37234 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 173.64.242.15
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Gsn1:
mana dharmam prakaaram...God is just a spectator ..he has nothing to do... its all Karma which drives the fate...god will only interfere in superficial exceptional cases and even in those cases the karma can be postponed but not overwritten ...ANTA |
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Cinejeevi
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Post Number: 2916 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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In my post 2915 if GOD never does step 2 then there is no point he being called as GOD. right?? Hence the path of bhakti etc., to reach him rather ask him to change our buddhi towards correct path  Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Cinejeevi
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Post Number: 2915 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 72.166.89.74
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Gsn1:Fair enough. But, then "Everything is Pre-determined or Pre-Written" and Sivudi Agna etc. is NOT TRUE and WRONG. That is EXACTLY what I was referring to.
may be i am not able to explain properly. In god's rule book only two things 1) he will NOT (never ever) interfere in someone's fate because it is based on his karma. 2) As a supreme if someone realizes his mistakes and takes correct path (provided he never does those again) GOD will re-write his Karma and will change his actions. Here sivudi aajna is overtaken. a rough ex idi ela untundi ante murder chesina vadiki court uri siksha veste, president life kinda marchesinattu by providing kshama biksha. Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Gsn1
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Thanks Bobby. Should watch the link. |
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Bobby
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Gsn1: Fair enough. But, then "Everything is Pre-determined or Pre-Written" and Sivudi Agna etc. is NOT TRUE and WRONG. That is EXACTLY what I was referring to.
GSN..go through this may be you get answer, this explains clearly. it has two parts. "Sri Velukkudi Krishnan - Who Decides My Destination - Time, Deeds, Fate or God? Discourse - Part 1" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fscvOuOPjGc |
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---------------- ela vadukuntadu annadi vadistam rather vaadi karma/kharma ----------------- Fair enough. But, then "Everything is Pre-determined or Pre-Written" and Sivudi Agna etc. is NOT TRUE and WRONG. That is EXACTLY what I was referring to. |
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Urumi:edanna day manchi roju ante, ee kotta program start chesina ok na ?
Charyi gaaru already answer chesesaaru "oka manchi roju chusuni murder cheyyadam kanna, oka chedda roju ayina manchi pani cheseyachchu". manam manchivi kaadu anukune tidhulloNe kada manam poojinche devuLLu puttaru vinayaka CHAVITI subrahmanya SHASHTI Krishna ASHTAMI Srirama NAVAMI Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Gsn1:GOD told him to speed (remember Sivudi Agna & actions are pre-determined).
god has given something unique called "buddhi" to humans. danardham buddhi ni use cheyyamani  ela vadukuntadu annadi vadistam rather vaadi karma/kharma  Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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CJ --------------- Here you are responsible for your own action though it is predetermined to follow speed limit. ---------------- Speed is set for ALL, but speeding is what individual is doing and GOD told him to speed (remember Sivudi Agna & actions are pre-determined). So my question is, when you are doing something, you were MEANT to do those things by GOD. This is where there is NO ANSWER (rather no satisfactory answer). |
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Gsn1:Then how come one is responsible for their OWN ACTIONS if it is pre-determined and God is the one is who is making to do it?
In simple terms it's like you MUST follow the law. At time you may break it (sometimes big sometime small) like a traffic violation. Then you pay the fine and come out of it. Here you are responsible for your own action though it is predetermined to follow speed limit. Still judge excused sometimes or let u go with a fine. Now apply same rule to karma, our buddhi/actions and the result (punishment/sukham). okadu chachipotu 100 mandini champesina, or oka gudi ki dabbu rasina mari vadu aa phalitam eppudu anubhavinchaali? so take another birth. this is how it is defined. Also punyam/papam will not be proportionately experienced. depends. oka vittanam vesi konni vandala fruits for many years enjoy chesinatte, papam/punyam ane vittanam phalitam ani peddala uvaacha   Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Urumi:naadi oka question. edanna day manchi roju ante, ee kotta program start chesina ok na ?
manchi roju ani ante aa roju new programs start cheyamani.....manchi roju kaadu ante em cheyakudadu ani kaadu, aaa days naadu do your usual stuff |
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Hinduism experts can answer MOST of the questions logically, except the following question, never got satisfactory answer. Hindus believe in Karma siddantham and they say "Sivudi Agna Lenidhe Cheema aina kuttadu" and "Everything is pre-written before one is born". Then how come one is responsible for their OWN ACTIONS if it is pre-determined and God is the one is who is making to do it? |
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Bunty717:nen chusindi ayite.. enta DNK ayite antaa baaga unnadu.. settle ayedu.. enjoy chestunnadu.. 1-2 cases kaadu chaala cases chusenu..
kEvalam dabbu, adhikaram undi kabatti "baaga" unnaDu anuKovaddu your honor !!! Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Bunty717:jc goru nen chepedi.. god fearing kurrol daggara aa wealth kuda ledu.. + bonnus gaa per issues malli..
wealth define cheyandi bunty goru, |
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Bumper:general ga vodipoee valee values,ethics ani matldataruu.
as far as sports is concerned i thought there are many who stuck to values and ethics and still considered winners. what is ur definition of winners, values, ethics  Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Cinejeevi:when prayer comes into picture? As per Sastra, If someone is constantly doing dhayanam via bhakti margam or something, it enlightens his buddhhi "dheeyOyOna prachOdayaat".. Then he will take good decisions (rather that dhyanam helps him) to avoid certain situations
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naadi oka question. edanna day manchi roju ante, ee kotta program start chesina ok na ? |
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Sony:you might be seeing his wealth.....you dont know his actual happiness and troubling issues
jc goru nen chepedi.. god fearing kurrol daggara aa wealth kuda ledu.. + bonnus gaa per issues malli.. somehow ee karma story lo edo teda undi.. manam correct ga understaning chesukovatma ledu emoo mari.. idi elaa undi ante.. tellal kurrol ki nuvvu ippudu potee.. heaven lo 18 virgins dorukutaaru annatu undi.. unna life ni nakinchesukoni.. next life gurinchi ee punyaalu saving and bank lo esukovatam etooo.. chaalaa confusing ga undi naaki ayite.. |
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Bunty717: nen chusindi ayite.. enta DNK ayite antaa baaga unnadu.. settle ayedu.. enjoy chestunnadu.. 1-2 cases kaadu chaala cases chusenu..
acharya varya, its perspective.....you might be seeing his wealth.....you dont know his actual happiness and troubling issues |
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Bunty717:emi ledger oo etoo.. nen chusindi ayite.. enta DNK ayite antaa baaga unnadu.. settle ayedu.. enjoy chestunnadu.. 1-2 cases kaadu chaala cases chusenu..
unkle yes. general ga vodipoee valee values,ethics ani matldataruu. Snakes in Your backyard won't bite only your neighbours. #Hillary Clinton |
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Sony:Account Ledger
emi ledger oo etoo.. nen chusindi ayite.. enta DNK ayite antaa baaga unnadu.. settle ayedu.. enjoy chestunnadu.. 1-2 cases kaadu chaala cases chusenu.. |
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Our life is like Account Ledger we come with some assets and liabilities (Purva janma sukrutham and papam} Day 1 of life our transactions start getting added to the ledger, credits and debits.....credits are papams, debits are punyams End of the life....we still have a balance which we carry for our next janma |
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Bumper:mana andariki previous birth undhi anukuntee, human population oka appudu millions lo undhii , ippudu anthe undalii kadha?? y in billions ?? how to map billions of people to millions of people in past ??
there is no hard and fast rule that only humans take human form in coming births. after certain janmas are over (from animal, insect and other forms) that jeevi might take human and vice versa. 84 lakshla types of jeevaraasi ani cheptaaru.
Jambalahaart_raja:ippudu kaalam kalisiraatamledu.. what astrology says? budhhi valana.. or vidhi valanaa??
vidhi aade vinta naatakamlo okari buddhi vaari karma mEraku ala panichEstundi. aite ee jaatakamlo (nammitE) grahala position batti effect remedy ki konni Santulu etc suggest chestaaru. One thing that is being said is 1) If someone is going through hardships papam kshayam ayipOtondi which is good 2) if someone is enjoying with materialistic luxuries and stuff atani punyam kharchu ayipOtondi. So believe in god as per Sri Krishna and do your karmas and give result to him. when prayer comes into picture? As per Sastra, If someone is constantly doing dhayanam via bhakti margam or something, it enlightens his buddhhi "dheeyOyOna prachOdayaat".. Then he will take good decisions (rather that dhyanam helps him) to avoid certain situations  anTe for ex 5K pette stocks lo 2K petti Ding Taka aipovachchu viceversa  Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Cinejeevi:antagatti u r questioning/asking.
Jambalahaart_raja:Can Astrology even suggest the causative factor for a person's current situation?
ippudu kaalam kalisiraatamledu.. what astrology says? budhhi valana.. or vidhi valanaa?? "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. |
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Cinejeevi:previous births and your buddhi is being directed as per your previous karmas.
mana andariki previous birth undhi anukuntee, human population oka appudu millions lo undhii , ippudu anthe undalii kadha?? y in billions ?? how to map billions of people to millions of people in past ?? Snakes in Your backyard won't bite only your neighbours. #Hillary Clinton |
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karma and karma siddhantanni techchi "astrology/jaatakam" ki antagatti u r questioning/asking. "buddhi karmaanusaariNE". these karmas are carried over from previous births and your buddhi is being directed as per your previous karmas. anduke enta goppa vaaDu ayina okkosari oke okka wrong/right step tOni sudden gaa (in)famous or got into power or any major change choostam. Mirror is my true friend,it won't laugh when I cry |
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Naaku oka general genuine koschen. Vinaasa kaaley vipareetha budhhi antaaru... ante.. kaalam kalisiraaka vipareetha budhhi ayyidda?? - vidhi vaipareetyam.. daiva niryanam.. or, vipareetha budhhi valaney kaalam kalisiraadaa.. swayankruthaaparaadham.. andaru lanchaalu teeskune government office lo.. lancham teeskoni oka bhayasthudu... intlo worst situations kosam... koduku engg seat kosamo, mother medical bills kosamo... illu konaalano.. whatever reason.. lancham teeskoni dorikipothey... taravatha vudyogam pothey... malli lanchaalu ichhukoni vudyogam venakki sampaadinchukolekapothey... eppudu chinna chinna lanchaalu teeskune vaadu... okka saari dorikipothey... lancham ichhi koodaa vishyaam peddadi avvakundaa bayata padalekapothey... vudyogam voodipothey.. volready heavy financial liabilities pettukuni... intlo situations anni worst ayipothey... almost platform meeda suicide ye saranyam stage ki vellipothey... which case is vipareetha budhhi... swayankruthaaparaadham, and which one above is vidhi vaipareetyam.. What Astrology suggests about those two? Can Astrology even suggest the causative factor for a person's current situation? sufficient pay scales vundagaa corruption and bribery is wrong.. illegal. I could not think of a "SIN", but I guess, the koschen is clear. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. |