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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 03:06 am:       


Vjavasi:

Education lo RSS influence not good..


tripuraneni, kancha ilaiah, periyaar influence is good.. kiki
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 03:04 am:       

manam cheppe so called left wing "intelligentsia" rasina syllabus for NCRT text books..

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ee boot lickers medhavula musugu lo chese L panulani evaru qn cheyyaru..

Musharaff gaadu great personality anta..

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 02:23 am:       


Darth_vader:

adhe kada chepthunna he can't claim a higher ground by pointing fingers at others. He knows very well how citations are done in west so not doing is wrong no matter how he justifies it. I was a part of his yahoo group not anymore now.


ok..anyway..I don't find this as a reason to doubt his worth as a writer...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 02:15 am:       


Filmbuff:

but appudu BJP emi chesthondi...edoka stand theesukoni oppose cheyacchu ga.


BJP sangati ala unchi.. meeru monna fight chesinatlu chesi undachu kada.. :D

ippudu gundelu badukuntunna medhavulu, adarsh liberals appudu em peekaru?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:57 pm:       


Filmbuff:

Agree totally - IIT/IIMs lo OBC reservations, IITs bill of 2012, AIIMS change in governance - motham destroy chesaru...but appudu BJP emi chesthondi...




desam lo reservations oppose sestunnam ani evaraina dhairyam ga seppa galaraa?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:49 pm:       


Filmbuff:

Agree totally - IIT/IIMs lo OBC reservations, IITs bill of 2012, AIIMS change in governance - motham destroy chesaru



yes....Arjun Singh gaadu even changed eleven NIT directors overnight......Amartya Sen supported reservation in IITs but opposed it at Nalanda....veedu anonymous tweets pattukoni crying victimhood gaani not answering real questions(gave example of Sen coz he is part of the ecosystem)



Filmbuff:

appudu BJP emi chesthondi...edoka stand theesukoni oppose cheyacchu ga...cheyaledhe...because they want those changes to happen (it is like BCCI where everyone is a crook)



agree...but I think it's different from BCCI(where money is there)...they should have done it.......lack of strategy.....and covert support of blacksheep like Jaitley(I think lawyers like Jaitely, Sushma knew the impact of disaster edu laws brought by Cong but did't say much)...hope they are realizing now.....the task before Irani is huge and it will take years.....
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:30 pm:       


Lichtenberg:

RSS is coming up with an important case on the definition of minority edu institutions.......




I support this move...

Lichtenberg:

There is no one who damaged education(apart from others) more than Congress ecosystem.....Sonia accelerated it during the last 10 years........It needs a lot of work....hope Smriti Irani has steel bolls




Agree totally - IIT/IIMs lo OBC reservations, IITs bill of 2012, AIIMS change in governance - motham destroy chesaru...but appudu BJP emi chesthondi...edoka stand theesukoni oppose cheyacchu ga...cheyaledhe...because they want those changes to happen (it is like BCCI where everyone is a crook)...ippudu Smriti Irani is just accentuating the decline...


Lichtenberg:

RSS has never said that IITs are being used for 'anti-India, anti-Hindu' activities

Whatever Organiser had mentioned, is not the official stand of RSS nor magazine is a part of official literature.




Chaa...ee maata thread padaka mundhu cheppali, thread padadhu ane kadha veela vedhava alochana...
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:08 pm:       

Smriti Irani has the toughest job in Modi govt......There will be a hit job everyday........it is the most important ministry from congress ecosystem's perspective........thought control, sinecures, Rajdeep sardesai baamma nunchi Romila Thapar daakaa tenures (Even Teesta Setalvad was advisor to MHRD on education during UPA govt), money to NGOs etc., ...anni dependednt on MHRD.....anything and everything done by current mHRD will be attacked with full force....

There is no one who damaged education(apart from others) more than Congress ecosystem.....Sonia accelerated it during the last 10 years........It needs a lot of work....hope Smriti Irani has steel bolls

RSS is coming up with an important case on the definition of minority edu institutions.......There is no discussion on this anywhere in MSM......starting discussion on this exposes the hypocricy and damage done by the ecosystem.....Instead they are focussing on Organiser's editorials...LOL

https://twitter.com/RSS_Org/status/622747008239964160
RSS has never said that IITs are being used for 'anti-India, anti-Hindu' activities

Whatever Organiser had mentioned, is not the official stand of RSS nor magazine is a part of official literature.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:55 pm:       


Vjavasi:

mana basha ee manam sarigga nerchukovatla....inkekadi culture.....culture chala dooram prastutham




manchidi. daaniki nuvvu anukune parishkaaramu emiti antaavu?
emi nerpaali antaavu?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:12 pm:       


Happyguy415:

so are you saying that this is lacking? and why do you think it is lacking?





mana basha ee manam sarigga nerchukovatla....inkekadi culture.....culture chala dooram prastutham
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:09 pm:       


Vjavasi:

with good cultural content




so are you saying that this is lacking? and why do you think it is lacking?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 02:50 pm:       


Nihil:

India lo you have n number of guys on left- Kosambi, DSE, Ram Guha, Romila Thapar etc etc... But where is our right ??? Nothing


Ram Guha, Thapar intellectuals ayithe veedhiko intellectual vuntaru Right wing ki. Don't make assumptions just because someone has tilak on his forehead is a dickhead.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 02:48 pm:       

Education lo RSS influence not good.....sickular gang ki alternative RSS political brainwashing kaadhu.....Education should be independent and professional with good cultural content
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 02:42 pm:       


Darth_vader:

Coming to why there are no right wing intelligensia in desam is very easy to explain because by default right wingers/conservatives in desam are painted as fascists and looked down upon. one of the many follies of nehru-indira years was demonizing conservatives & for profit enterprises coupled with alignment to Russia so you've the general population feed on this BS so even if wanted you couldn't be a free thinker. Somewhat similar to how Communists were hounded out in us & uk.

Only from mid -90s have the doors opened to conservatives to be open about their political leanings in public without expecting a backlash so it'll take time for right intelligensia to evolve and have a voice of their own until then left leaning loonies will cry wolf at perceived injustice coming their way when in truth they had a free run for 60+ years.





Nehru, Left ledhu tokka ledhu....Nehru jamana lone Sitaram goel lanti vallu Nehru ni ekatam modalu pettaru RSS mouthpiece Organiser lo.....RSS leadership ki vucha padi publishing aapesaru.....Vajpayee Nehru ki kopam vastundhi ilanti articles to ani apinchadu
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 01:49 pm:       


Amigo:

ha haha
And Smriti will be thinking she did a great job


mee AAPies aa Roadies lo banda bootulu thitte raghu ram gadni invite chesaru ante Selfie with raghu ram ani..kiki.. students ki manchi inspiration.. lol

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 01:16 pm:       


Darth_vader:

right intelligensia


 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 12:55 pm:       


Filmbuff:

Now they appointed as National Book Trust chairman someone who has never written a book in his life, just because he was editor of Panchajanya.




ha haha
And Smriti will be thinking she did a great job
 

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Coming to why there are no right wing intelligensia in desam is very easy to explain because by default right wingers/conservatives in desam are painted as fascists and looked down upon. one of the many follies of nehru-indira years was demonizing conservatives & for profit enterprises coupled with alignment to Russia so you've the general population feed on this BS so even if wanted you couldn't be a free thinker. Somewhat similar to how Communists were hounded out in us & uk.

Only from mid -90s have the doors opened to conservatives to be open about their political leanings in public without expecting a backlash so it'll take time for right intelligensia to evolve and have a voice of their own until then left leaning loonies will cry wolf at perceived injustice coming their way when in truth they had a free run for 60+ years.
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 12:37 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

vunkl.




mana cut out choodaledemo..choosinollani adugu..pita pita
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 12:33 pm:       


Mushin:

annai...he rebutted clearly ....citation book ending lo chesadu...but left gallu andaru ledhu ledhu ...prathi sentence ki citation eyyali nuvvu chesindhi plagiarism ee ani saava nookutunnru...


adhe kada chepthunna he can't claim a higher ground by pointing fingers at others. He knows very well how citations are done in west so not doing is wrong no matter how he justifies it. I was a part of his yahoo group not anymore now.
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 12:25 pm:       


Nihil:

Bahubali choodu...Jai mahishmati ... nee schizo cool ayitadi




:D ... distractions suggest cheyaku vunkl...
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 12:13 pm:       

Mental

Bahubali choodu...Jai mahishmati ... nee schizo cool ayitadi:-)
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 10:27 am:       


Nihil:


Andariki papers must and should kadu. For suppose, Alexander Sartre vunnadu... existential realism... he refused nobel.

Philosphers/writers ki papers endahe?? nee mental

Adi Shankaracharya ae University annatlu vundi.




In a way thats my point too. Research studies as a process have evolved outside india - publications, peer reviews, citations are alien to the traditional or conservative think tanks(however feeble they are in their ideas) of india. Especially in the fields of economic/academic and sociology in general. Things are changing, and will keep changing.

Its not a supporting argument, its just an observation.

Most academics or research is usually a obvious step of growth, and i feel most of the "intellectuals" being cited here fall into that category. Nothing to take away from the greats, if not by them, it would have been someone else a few years later. But it does require a prior learning and knowledge to reach that stage. Indian Conservative circles are a couple of generations away in my view.

Ofcourse every now and then real geniuses appear - Darwin, Newton Tesla, Adam Smith, Einstein and our own Arybhatta's and Ramanujans who are far ahead of their peers, such qualifications or certifications seem moot.


inka actual discussion ki vasthe - RSS has a point. Not that being anti-hindu and anti-India is bad.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 10:10 am:       


Darth_vader:

plagiarism chesi dorikipoyaad kada so his work will be tainted for ever.

Vivekananda International Foundation for all intents and purposes runs the present PMO. They're a right wing think thank with good pedigree.




http://www.niticentral.com/2015/07/18/rajiv-malhotra-has-a-r ejoinder-to-andrew-nicholson-324312.html

Rajiv Malhotra has a rejoinder to Andrew Nicholson

Dear Andrew Nicholson

I am glad you have entered the battlefield so we can get into some substantial matters.

Since this is an extended article, I want to go about it systematically, starting with the following clarifications:

I used your work with explicit references 30 times in Indra’s Net, hence there was no ill-intention.

But I am not blindly obeying you, contrary to your experience with servile Indians; hence your angst that I am â€distorting’ your ideas is unfounded.
My writing relating to your work can be seen as twofold:

Where I cite your work.
Where it is my own perspectives.
You are entitled to attribution for â€A’ but not for â€B’.

Regarding â€A’,

I am prepared to clarify these attributions further where necessary. But, as we shall see below, I am going to actually remove many of the references to your work simply because you have borrowed from Indian sources and called them your own original ideas. I am better off going to my tradition’s sources rather than via a westerner whose ego claims to have become the primary source. This Western hijacking of adhikara is what the elaborate Western defined and controlled system of peer-reviews and academic gatekeepers is meant to achieve, i.e. turning knowledge into the control of western â€experts’ and their Indian sepoys.
Regarding â€B’,

let me illustrate by using the very same example you cite as my â€distortion’ of â€your’ work. You wrote in your book that Vijnanabhikshu unified multiple paths into harmony. This is correct. That comes under â€A’. But I add to this my own statement that Vivekananda does the same thing also. This is important to my thesis that Vivekananda built on top a long Indian tradition, and not by copying ideas from the West as claimed by the neo-Hinduism camp. This is â€B’ – my idea. Your complaint is that by asserting this about Vivekananda, I am distorting you. You fail to distinguish between â€A’ and â€B’ because you assume that you are the new adhikari on the subject and anything in addition to or instead of your views amounts to a distortion. I see this as a blatant sign of colonialism. You are carrying the white man’s burden to educate the Indians even about our own culture.
On Vijnanabhikshu

Please note that Vijnanabhikshu is an important person in our heritage and there are numerous commentaries on his work. Yours is not any original account of him. You got this material from secondary sources. But by complying by the mechanical rules of â€scholarship’ you got it into western peer-reviewed publications, and hence you claim to be the new adhikari. Furthermore, nor was Vijnanabhikshu the first to unify Hinduism. I have sources of the unification of various Hindu systems that go back much further in time and you do not seem to be aware of these. My point is that Vivekananda stands on the shoulders of many prior giants within our own tradition. I cited you to the extent it worked for me but did not stop there; I took it further than you have.

Sir Williams Jones started this claim to be the â€new pandit’ in the late 1700s when he was a top official for the East India Company. Today that enterprise is dead in one sense, but has revived and reincarnated into new forms. You do not seem conscious that your position is not only arrogant but also puts in the parampara of Sir William Jones.

I re-examined your book lately and find too many ideas taken from Indian texts and experts that are cleverly reworded in fancy English.

On bhedabheda Vedanta

Let’s take a look at bhedabheda Vedanta. My teacher of this system has been Dr Satya Narayan Das, head of the Jiva Institute in Vrindavan, who spent considerable time with me while I was writing Being Different where I first explained my understanding. He is considered one of the foremost adhikaris today in this system, and adhikar in our tradition is not a matter of producing publications (with lots of quotation marks and obedience to other rules), but mainly requires actual experience of what is being said. Without the inner experience of the states of consciousness being discussed, it is at best secondary knowledge. This experience is not a simple matter for western Indologists who spend hours going through other western interpretations and Sanskrit dictionaries. By complying with the procedural requirements of citations, etc. they suddenly claim to have become the new original and primary source. This system needs to be questioned, and I have written extensively about the syndrome I call the peer-review cartel. (You can read my debate on this a decade back on Rediff.com)

Therefore, I intend to delete most of the references to your book for bhedabheda, because it is clear that you lack the adhikara as per our system. I do wish to credit you in some respects but nowhere close to what you demand.

It amazes me that there is nothing original in your explanation of bhedabheda, as your knowledge is obtained from reading Indian texts, western interpretations and sitting at the feet of Indian pandits to learn. Unfortunately, western Indology does not recognize what the pandit teaches you as his work, because it is oral and not written in a peer-reviewed (hence western supervised) publication. So the whole protocol of claiming something to belong to you as the author is a sort of technology of thievery. Fortunately, Indians have started claiming back their bio-heritage such as Ayurveda from such thievery that is being done by westerners claiming that Indians never filed patents as per western rules. It is time to also claim our intellectual heritage back.

India’s Oral Knowledge Traditions and Intellectual Property Ownership

Indian pandits know their materials by heart and it is orally transmitted; and they do not have the ego to claim authorship. They are very humble and hence get taken for a ride. They are duped by any â€good cop’ from the west who comes in Indian dress to talk to them nicely and bamboozle them into believing that he is a friend of the tradition. Westerners can pick their brains freely, without which you would not be able to learn; but then you go back to the West and have the arrogance to call it yours. As per your Western protocol, you thank the pandit in some preface once, and feel that it suffices. But if you feel that my 30 references to your work fall short then by the same token, please note that you, too, ought to be acknowledging your pandits and Indian textual sources in every single paragraph, if not every sentence.

Only that portion of your work which you feel gives truly original thoughts can become yours and make you its adhikari. If you would be kind enough to send us a list of what you consider original thoughts in your book, and that I have used these because they are not found anywhere else except in your work, then I would gladly bow to you and thank you profusely. But whatever portions (which is almost the entire book) are merely your rehashing the Indian materials in fancy English, over those I do not grant you the status of â€ownership’.

Poetry and art are different than this. There, the originality is not in the substance but in the presentation. However, you are writing analytical works and there the originality would have to be established in the content and substance of the work, and not based on the â€form’ of language gymnastics. Much of Western Indology is a factory to copy-paste and distort Indian materials, and process it through an industrial machinery called â€academic knowledge production’ controlled by the Western institutions, journals, funding agencies, archives, gatekeepers, standards and rules, and so forth. Its requirements of idiom, the toolkit of theories to be used, language standards, etc., are such that 99% of the Indian traditional pandits (the true keepers of adhikara) are unable to participate.

True Adhikaris with a real claim of Ownership

My forthcoming book examines these mechanisms of exclusion in detail, which is why the war against it has started already. (This attack by you out of the blue comes 1.5 years after Indra’s Net, not as some remarkable coincidence, but because your peers are rattled at the thought that they are about to be exposed as the continuation of Sir William Jones.)

I challenge you to disclose all your Indian teachers – these are not â€native informants’ as your system calls them but the true adhikaris of our heritage, and whose services you purchase to be able to do your work. What frightens your colleagues is that my book will educate our traditional pandits about your methods of exploitation. Let me frighten you even further:

All my books are in the process of being translated into Sanskrit, specifically for the purpose of education young pandits about the issues I raise.
So my target reader is not folks like you, but our own pandits and others who claim this as their heritage and practice. I am especially interested in those who did not sell out to western sponsorship, foreign tours, etc. These will comprise my home team. I am only doing a humble service to inform them about the issues and remedies.

This is why more and more Indologists will be asked to come out of the woodwork and defend the old fortress. In the process they will also expose themselves. But that fortress is crumbling and my work merely accelerates the process of India once again becoming the center of Indology and not a subservient satellite of it.

Reclaiming Indian Intellectual Heritage

Indian authorities should demand the return back to India of the 500,000 Sanskrit manuscripts that are lying outside India in various Western universities, archives, museums and private collections. These are our heritage just like old statues and should be returned since they were mostly taken by theft during colonial rule. I consider these more precious than the Kohinoor diamond.

Right now, it is western Indologists like you who get to define â€critical editions’ of our texts and become the primary source and adhikari. This must end and I have been fighting this for 25 years. Now we finally some serious traction, thanks in part to people like you who attack and give me a chance to make my case more openly. Please note that what happens to me personally is irrelevant, and I am glad if attacks like this awaken more people.

My response to you is nothing personal, but serves to educate my own people.

You are a glaring example of what I have called a â€good cop’, i.e., one who goes about showing love/romance for the tradition. But at some time his true colors come out when he does what I have called a U-Turn. You would make an interesting case study of the U-Turn syndrome, for which we ought to examine where you got your materials from, and to what extent you failed to acknowledge Indian sources, both written and oral, with the same weight with which you expect me to do so.
Who owns Culture when the Author is dead for centuries ?

To suit their agendas, westerners have pronounced theories like â€nobody owns culture’ and â€the author is dead’. Our naïve pandits are too innocent to know any of this, but I wish to inform them. The claim that nobody owns a culture makes it freely available to whosoever wants to do whatever they choose to do with it. Hence, Indian cultural capital is being digested right and left. The contradiction is that the west is ultra-protective about its â€intellectual property’ and your obsession to squeeze more references/citations out of me illustrates this.

By declaring that the â€author is dead’, the West says the contexts and intentions of the rishis are irrelevant. They are dead and nobody knows what they meant. So â€we’ (the Western Indologists) must interpret Indian texts by bringing our own theories and lenses. This has been the basis for the Freudian psychoanalysis of Hinduism, and all other Western theories being applied. If the original author is dead, the material does not belong to anyone. It is public domain. So whoever has more funding and powerful machinery will determine how it is interpreted. However, the same â€nobody owns culture’ principle does not apply to what you consider as your â€property’. Indians need to wake up to this game.

They need to stop funding Western Indology and develop Indian Indology. The â€make in India’ ideal should also be applied here.

Expecting Indologists to change because you dole out money is like feeding a crocodile expecting him to become your friend. For the first 10 years of my work in this area, I gave away a substantial portion of my life savings in an unsuccessful attempt to fund and change the Indologists’ hearts. But they play the good/bad cop game with skill. I learned a great deal because I was acknowledged as the largest funder of western Indology at one time. Then I stopped and became their harshest critic. I have on file a lot of grant correspondence with Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, to name just a few. Naturally, they worry that I am exposing their secrets. One day I will get someone to organize all that material into a publication.

Before I close, I wish to address one of your points – that I lack the competence in Sanskrit to be able to do my work.

I will address in a separate article my background and experience and how it fits the specific type of work I have focused on.

But meanwhile let me inform you that, just as Western Indologists work in teams of collaborators consisting of specialists in different domains, so also I have been building my team of collaborators whose combined strength on Indology far exceeds anything you can possibly match.

I bring a specialty they lack, and vice versa. But I am unable to get into further details at this time.
Welcome to the battlefield! I hope we can avoid personal acrimony and deal with the multiple issues I have raised above in a professional and mutually respectful manner.

I give back as hard as I get. (Dr. Swamy’s slogan, being acknowledged without need for quotation marks…J)

Rajiv Malhotra
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 10:04 am:       

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Andariki papers must and should kadu. For suppose, Alexander Sartre vunnadu... existential realism... he refused nobel.

Philosphers/writers ki papers endahe?? nee mental

Adi Shankaracharya ae University annatlu vundi.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:58 am:       


Filmbuff:

Though i am not a supporter of Hayek




am a big fan of hayek too. salma ne kada?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:55 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

research fafer ettu


fountain head link istademo :D
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:53 am:       

mihir sharma article ki michel danino rebuttal
http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mihir-s-sha rma-the-publishers-and-the-crackpots-115071401453_1.html

mihir.sharma@bsmail.in
Twitter: @mihirssharma

Michel Danino’s response to this article
In his article “The Rajiv Malhotra issue is a cautionary tale for publishers”, Mihir S. Sharma finds it necessary to close with the following statement: “The Shrikant Talageris and the Michael Daninos of the world, like the Rajiv Malhotras, are online heroes rather than respected historians or linguists because their work just doesn't match up. The endless ways in which the "new Hindu right" uncovers ways in which caste and external migrations were invented but the Saraswati was not are not being suppressed because of a giant Western conspiracy; they simply don't meet the academic standards required to conclude that they're not just a bunch of crackpot theories dreamed up by nativist bigots.”

While Mihir Sharma is welcome to his opinions, he has no right to misrepresent, abuse and demonize people whose work he is completely ignorant of. I will not speak for Rajiv Malhotra or Shrikant Talageri, but I protest against his statement concerning me. I am by no means an “online hero”, maintaining neither a website nor a blog nor a Facebook account. My work on ancient India has spread through my books and papers, which have been published by reputed publishers and journals of Indology and archaeology in India and abroad. I have also contributed chapters to over twenty scholarly volumes. I am sure Mihir Sharma has read none of my work; indeed, he cannot even spell my name correctly.

Thus he implies that the Sarasvati River is “invented”, which means he has not read my The Lost River: On the Trail of the Sarasvati published by Penguin India in 2010 and warmly reviewed by many national newspapers (including Business Standard: see here and here) as well as Current Science and reputed journals of archaeology such as Man and Environment and Puratattva. Had he read it, he would have known that the vanished Vedic river was identified with the now dry Ghaggar-Hakra of Haryana, Punjab, Rajasthan and Cholistan, not by a few “nativist bigots”, but in 1855 by the French geographer Louis Vivien de Saint-Martin. In the next few decades, nearly all European Indologists, from H.H. Wilson and F. Max Müller to M. Monier-Williams, A.A. Macdonell, A.B. Keith or F.E. Pargiter, and more recently L. Renou, A.L. Basham or Jan Gonda, accepted Vivien de Saint-Martin’s thesis. Geologists such as the British R.D. Oldham (1886) joined in, followed by geographers such as the Indian Shamsul Islam Siddiqi (1944) or the German Herbert Wilhelmy (1969). Alexander Cunningham, founder of the Archaeological Survey of India, was one among many who, in the 19th century, published maps clearly naming the Sarasvati as a tributary to the Ghaggar. The celebrated British archaeologist and explorer Marc Aurel Stein was the first to discover Harappan sites along the bed of the dry river and published his findings in a 1942 report entitled “A Survey of Ancient Sites along the â€Lost’ Sarasvati River.” The late British archaeologist Raymond Allchin fully accepted the river’s identification, as did his U.S. colleagues the late Gregory L. Possehl or J.M. Kenoyer, among others. I could line up many more non-“nativist” names. If there was a “Western conspiracy”, to use Sharma’s name, it was to conclude that the Sarasvati had been a very real river — like all others listed in the Rig-Veda — and could be precisely placed on the map. While there are still important geological issues to be resolved, my book has brought together literary, cultural, archaeological and geological evidence in an objective and open-ended manner.

Lastly, while classical India refined and practised the art of debating, Mihir Sharma’s vituperative but crassly ignorant language is fairly typical of a trend to demonize what one does not agree with — a trend that has taken the place of academic debates in much of India’s intellectual life. It does spare one the trouble of having to study, carefully weigh arguments and evidence, and engage other viewpoints in a civilized manner.


Michel Danino
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Convener, International Forum for India’s Heritage
Member, Indian Council of Historical Research
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:50 am:       


Nihil:

ayn rand






research fafer ettu

 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:49 am:       

https://twitter.com/RajivMessage/status/622776908015468544
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:47 am:       

https://twitter.com/RajivMessage/status/623082173331935234
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:44 am:       

darth annai...ee lefties ippudu intha egurutunnaru...rajiv malhotra tho chesina face to face debates lo neellu namilaru ee egurutunna batch :D

coming to the topic...

yes in general right wing thought leaders are very less compared to left wing...

aakhariki ippudippude civils ki prepare aitunna candidates kooda heavily left inclined...majority of thr student community is left inclined...
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:39 am:       


Darth_vader:

plagiarism chesi dorikipoyaad kada so his work will be tainted for ever.

Vivekananda International Foundation for all intents and purposes runs the present PMO. They're a right wing think thank with good pedigree.


annai...he rebutted clearly ....citation book ending lo chesadu...but left gallu andaru ledhu ledhu ...prathi sentence ki citation eyyali nuvvu chesindhi plagiarism ee ani saava nookutunnru...:D
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 08:17 am:       


Darth_vader:

even I enjoy his writing. I can live with him not giving proper citations but his whole argument of others doing the same doesn't cut ice and now I doubt if at all there is any originality in his Work.





candidate more a marketing guy than serious intelelctual......He just recycles old works of Aurobindo, Goel and others
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 08:04 am:       


Awara1984:


Copy or original telvadu kaani breaking india baagund


even I enjoy his writing. I can live with him not giving proper citations but his whole argument of others doing the same doesn't cut ice and now I doubt if at all there is any originality in his Work.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 07:55 am:       


Bongaram:

goppa peru unna *pedda manishi* musugu lo entha edava panulu chesina noru ettaleru.




Em chesadu Amartya vunkul..naaku teliyali y
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 07:42 am:       


Darth_vader:

Mushin:

rajiv malhotra chesina research choodu infinity foundation lo..

plagiarism chesi dorikipoyaad kada so his work will be tainted for ever.

Vivekananda International Foundation for all intents and purposes runs the present PMO. They're a right wing think thank with good pedigree.




Copy or original telvadu kaani breaking india baagundi
 

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Mushin:

rajiv malhotra chesina research choodu infinity foundation lo..


plagiarism chesi dorikipoyaad kada so his work will be tainted for ever.

Vivekananda International Foundation for all intents and purposes runs the present PMO. They're a right wing think thank with good pedigree.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 07:25 am:       


Filmbuff:

Though i am not a supporter of Hayek, Friedman and more in the Keynes/ Krugman wing, the intellectual support framework of the Indian right is rather weak.






tamaru Friedman supporter kaakunda Rajan supporter ela ayyaru
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 07:23 am:       

Hindutva batch daggara intellectuals ekkada vunnaru.....Gurumurthy, Shourie lanti third rate opportunistic pretenders tappa......Subbu swamy knows his stuff well but ceased to be an intellectuals long back......Hindus nundi original intellectals chala koddi mandhe vunnaru like Aurobindo, Goel, Swarup and Ram manohar Lohia
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 05:06 am:       


Nihil:

Well read, meticulous, and he put forth his argument very well.


rajiv malhotra chesina research choodu infinity foundation lo...arun shourie level lo unnai aayana writings...
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 05:05 am:       

kikiki manaku teliyani vallu aithe comedy...manam vinna perlu aithe intellectuals

gurumurthy gurinchi google cheyi ...telustadi aayana capacity endo

research papers annav...swamy noble laureate tho raasina paper link isthe ignoring..kikiki

right wing intellectuals ki ippudu chance isthe next 20 years lo emanna commendable mark choopistaru....ippudu evadi individual capacity lo aadu edo chestunnaru...so it doesn't fit ur framework of intellectual
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 04:56 am:       


Pavala:

nihil tamud
nuvvu raasina dhanilo okka mukka artham ayithe mana spesal status meedha ottu....


eeee batch ni db nunchi banning cheyinchaali.... Manchi sketch veyyii..... Implement seddam....
keka link:

fikileaks,
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 04:49 am:       


Nihil:

Rendanal



Bala audio function roju ma fans ki grahanam day...memu bayataki rakudadhu....repu talk to u yaa.. - Onlytruth
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 04:26 am:       

Rendanal
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 04:23 am:       


Nihil:


the likes of Shouries and Bhagawatis cant go beyond a point to fight against commies. They dont want to jeopardise their relation with them. See how shamelessly Shourie bought the argument that xstians are under threat in Modi's India. These opportunists join the RW bandwagon for their political fortunes.. Shourie can best be described as liberal and economic rightwinger not a cultural or political RW..
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 04:17 am:       

Naku India lo serious ga nachina Right wing guy ante Arun Shourie.
I am surprised nobody mentioned him.

Well read, meticulous, and he put forth his argument very well.
We need these type of guys in thousands across all fields. Appude paina chest, kinda M rendu 4 inches peruguthayi.

Ee chouhan, beehan, gurumoor, LOL....comedy ni D
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 04:07 am:       


Nihil:

India lo conservative intellectuals ante bhoothaddam petti vethikina dorakaru. They are non-existent...so ila non-entities ne appoint chesthunnaru...they are digging their own grave with these buffoons

We should take a leaf out of US and UK and establish think-tanks which churnout widely respected guys with heft

where are our Fred.hayek, John Locke, Edmund Burke, George Hamilton, Milton friedman, ayn rand, kristol etc etc??

Where are our Booth school of business, heritage foundation, Chatham house, Rand corp, federalist society, AEI etc etc??

Where is our WSJ, weekly standard, national review, drudge report, fox ??

India lo conservative intellectual is itself an oxymoron.. they are bunch of thirdclass invertebrates.


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nuvvu raasina dhanilo okka mukka artham ayithe mana spesal status meedha ottu....
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 04:05 am:       


Filmbuff:

My prof and i have high regard for him but we are talking about a different league here.


simple answer...swamy a giant in economics...but aayanaki ee post idham anna bhayapadatharu...no father listening type...
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 04:03 am:       


Nihil:

Bhadriraju Krishnamurthy ani mana Linguist okayana vunnaru. He is a world famous Dravidian Linguist...India, Cambridge, IAS, Austrlia llo work chesaru,

His book is a gold standard for anybody studying Dravidian Linguistics and he has certain ideas on AIT. I am talking about these type of guys.


as I already told...right wing intellectuals weren't given space in academic circles post independence...that's the reason u wont find any standard research publications from a right winger ...it's completely dominated by leftists...ee 5 years lo emanna change cheste ok...lekapothe ide continue avthadi
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 04:01 am:       


Nihil:

Surplus tappu antava?? i vehemently disagree.




Surpluses are not the issue, but because they wanted to get higher interest rates, they encourage a borrowing binge in Greece and even the US. Michael Lewis is also a fav. writer of mine - read his article in Vanity Fair on this on how the Germans are partly to blame for the US subprime crisis too.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2011/09/europe-201109

Mushin:

R Vaidyanathan is another intellectual in economics...IIM professor...




My prof and i have high regard for him but we are talking about a different league here.




Nihil:

Take the case of Subbu: he left Harvard 20 yr ago; show me a paper where he published in a decent journal about economics. OR fellow economists debate his ideas on both left and right




Well said. Basically the RW should set up a think tank and get folks like Jagdish Bhagwati to chair it.
 

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Nihil:

Take the case of Subbu: he left Harvard 20 yr ago; show me a paper where he published in a decent journal about economics. OR fellow economists debate his ideas on both left and right




Research papers[edit]
Economic growth and income distribution in a developing nation (Publisher: Harvard University, 1965)
Nuclear policy for India (Publisher: Bharatiya Jana Sangh Publication, 1968)
Plan for full employment (Publisher: Bharatiya Jana Sangh, 1970)
Theoretical aspects of index numbers (Publisher: Harvard Institute of Economic Research, 1985)
Land reforms: an economist's approach (Publisher: Deendayal Research Institute)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subramanian_Swamy#Books.2C_res earch_papers_and_journals

nobel laureate tho research papers raasinodu annai...he is a genius in economics...u like it or not
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:58 am:       

http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2015/07/20/iit-rss_n_7829782.ht ml
Hindus ithe non-veg thinakudada enti.. Veellu petty things like non-veg, pooja cheyyanivva ledu lanti silly issues ni discuss chesi cheap ipothunnaru.. elanti vati kosam time waste chestunte what is diff b/n you and iron hand symbol,
pappu gadu next term ki cheppi kodatte stage ki teesukeltunnaru

You better put forward, how you can make institutions better to compete with global tops.. Veellaki meda lo doolu laga nisani HRD minister okati..
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:47 am:       


Awara1984:

aryan invasion theory




Bhadriraju Krishnamurthy ani mana Linguist okayana vunnaru. He is a world famous Dravidian Linguist...India, Cambridge, IAS, Austrlia llo work chesaru,

His book is a gold standard for anybody studying Dravidian Linguistics and he has certain ideas on AIT. I am talking about these type of guys.
 

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@SreenivasanJain @TruthvsHype IIT 'll provide rural tech & we 'll take it to villages thru lacs of karyakartas.Does that sound unscientific?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:41 am:       

you need an eco system to build such intellectuals

what is the JNU school of economics producing?

jhollawallahs

who heads all history boards?

people who want people to beleive aryan invasion theory and propagate about the greatness of the date of vascodagama reached Goa, the day EUROPE DISCOVERED INDIA
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:41 am:       


Bhaarathsammaan:

India ki panikocche vishayaalu cheppandi




I just gave some examples... India ki direct apply ani cheppale.

Manaki kooda ilanti mansuhulu, media kavali and then people will respect and take you seriously.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:38 am:       

Mushin
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Na benchmark cheppa kadaa...for an intellectual.

Any chosen field lo research, publish, and propagate your world view. I have already gave multiple examples Oka Keynes ki Hayek; Friedman ki Ferguson etc.

Take the case of Subbu: he left Harvard 20 yr ago; show me a paper where he published in a decent journal about economics. OR fellow economists debate his ideas on both left and right

Youtube or Media loki vachi kithakithalu pedithe gr8 anukunte can't baa..nothing else
 

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Nihil:

where are our Fred.hayek, John Locke, Edmund Burke, George Hamilton, Milton friedman, ayn rand, kristol etc etc?? 

Where are our Booth school of business, heritage foundation, Chatham house, Rand corp, federalist society, AEI etc etc?? 

Where is our WSJ, weekly standard, national review, drudge report, fox ??



India ki panikocche vishayaalu cheppandi
 

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Awara1984:

denemma asalu FTII ni abolish cheste oka pani aipoddi


em le...desham la unna red batch motham munda mopi edupu start chestaru..modi hitler ani
 

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Why should govt run FTII and how the appointment of head is relevant to the normal people?

who are its previous heads and what are the actual power of Chairman?

what is the outcome of FTII, how many new and talented directors or technicians in recent times came out of it?

emi leni dani ookalu peekadam tappu emi ledu, denemma asalu FTII ni abolish cheste oka pani aipoddi
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opr6Qn9aVmM

s gurumurthy ...brilliant man...has a very good understanding on Indian economy....see the above lecture series...very detailed analysis on Indian economy...R Vaidyanathan is another intellectual in economics...IIM professor...
 

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left communist propoganda gallandarni debates lo swamy pandabetti dgadu chaala saarlu...eellaki correct mogudu subbu thata ne ...naxalites anestadu
 

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Filmbuff:




My fav.writer Micheal Lewis (Moneyball, flash boys etc) wrote back in 2010.

In addition to its roughly $400 billion (and growing) of outstanding government debt, the Greek number crunchers had just figured out that their government owed another $800 billion or more in pensions. Add it all up and you got about $1.2 trillion, or more than a quarter-million dollars for every working Greek.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2010/10/greeks-bearing-bonds- 201010

EU for forcing a monetary union without a fiscal union. The very structure of the EU is ripe for disaster.
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I agree.. EU concept is baseless. teliviga ma UK tappukundi.

- Germany for chasing ever higher interest rates for its persistent surpluses
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Surplus tappu antava?? i vehemently disagree.

- Greece for not correcting its bloated pensios and wages in time after the 2008 crises
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Asalu greek economy is joke..pensions ani emundi?? read the above Lewis paper on how they defrauded themselves and entire EURO.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:22 am:       


Nihil:

Dont tell me Subbu, gabbu, sabbu types.


kikiki subbu intelligence ne questioning aa...do u even know what his achieved in economics


Nihil:

Light weights..and caricatures


silly rant


Nihil:

India lo you have n number of guys on left- Kosambi, DSE, Ram Guha, Romila Thapar etc etc... But where is our right ??? Nothing


Ram Guha,Romila lanti congi lickers intellectuals ok...but right wing lo evadu kanapadaledha I already gave u a list...if u talk abt history/culture/religious studies...rajiv malhotra is doing a meticulous research...he is literally exposing the bias of all these leftie commie bunch...and as usual strike off rajiv malhotra as light weight
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:22 am:       


Nihil:

Ram Guha, Romila Thapar etc etc


veellu intellectuals aa.. rofl.. evaru chepparu? valla group lo unna inko intellectuals..right?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:20 am:       


Nihil:

For ex.. India lo cultural space teeskunte, Vedas lo avi vunnayi,ivi vunnayi ani sollu kaburlu kaadu....Do some serious academic research, let it out infront of peers, publish it in a good journal. Then people will listen to you, respect you and fall behind your world view.

Likewise, Asalu Indian history ante comedy ... we have umpteen no. of things to do basic research..but memu adi peekam, idi peekam type superficial things. Peer group lone support lepothe, how do public will take you seriously.


Its plain ignorance to say there are no intellectuals at all in right wing. unless.. ur definition is limited only if they frequent to the commie media outlets to speak on something.

ee media lo eppudu evadaina controversial comment cheste tappa RW ninchi evadni choopinchadu. or even their achievements.

nuvvu RW ppl ni so called left intelligentsia iche awards tho measure cheste no use.

valla club lo lekapote nee peru kooda vinipinchadu media lo.

Chetan bhagat lanti moderate and accomplished author ke manchi reputed publishers dorakaru.. forget about RW conservatives.

I can give u the examples of 100s of unworthy ppl enjoying the fame and position just because they are part of the club.

ivala Rajdeep Sardesai gadu telisinatlu A. surya prakash evaro janalaki teleedu. such is the pity..
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:14 am:       


Nihil:




Your numbers are wrong - total Greece debt is around 320 Bn euros of which 195 bn is bailout debt.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/business/internation al/greece-debt-crisis-euro.html

Krugman does do his bit of rabble rousing - that being said, faults lie on all sides

- EU for forcing a monetary union without a fiscal union. The very structure of the EU is ripe for disaster.
- Germany for chasing ever higher interest rates for its persistent surpluses
- Greece for not correcting its bloated pensios and wages in time after the 2008 crises

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/07/01/t he-forgotten-origins-of-greeces-terrible-crisis-will-make-yo u-think-twice-about-whos-to-blame/
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:10 am:       


Filmbuff:

http://www.outlookindia.com/article/nalanda-an-avatar-in-dis tress/281280

3 years back ye vochchindi and that too in a so called liberal media like Outlook...i can show dozens of articles that were very critical of his tenure..


where is the article critical about Sen's role for the fate of the institute and funds embezzlement?

and see the way the same media is critical about Govt when Sen was sacked(forced to resign) for his role..

http://www.outlookindia.com/blogs/post/the-curse-of-the-indi an-nobel/3496/12
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:07 am:       


Bongaram:

y such questions never raised when UR Ananthamurthy who never even did an ad film appointed as chairman of film institute? or Leela samson, a dance teacher for Priyanka vadra as censor board chairperson? what sort of entities are these?

and then.. Sonia gandhi appointed herself as Chairman of Nehru memorial trust.. a GOI entity, for which the default chairperson should be none other than prime minister..




ilanti chetta veshalu vesinanduke kada cong ki 40 mp seats ichi shock ichar voters , nda kuda ila cheste ela bro ?

cow(nda) and pig(upa) both are animals but both are(should be) very very differennt kada
TDP + TRS is RULING ALLIANCE in RANGA REDDY ZILLA PARISHAD ,no permenant friends or foes,so chillax friends
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 03:00 am:       


Filmbuff:

Krugman




Buff bedar,

eedi comedy ni D. Just because he has NYT platform, he is rabble-rousing.
Greek crisis lo EU already around 400 Billion icharu on top of 1 trillion debt. For a 1 crore populaion, each citizen has made a quart.million dollars debt. No taxes, corruption...India kante worst country greece.

Adi chalaka inka Euro dabbulu ivvadam ledu ani rojooo veedi godava as if Greece is a victim and Germancy villain. Emanna ante Keynes...thu eedi batuku.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 02:54 am:       


Mushin:

subramanian swamy,ss gurumurthy




Light weights..and caricatures

If you want to take somebody seriously You need to have a solid academic record and a serious guy with out any frivolous and rig-rags.

For ex.. India lo cultural space teeskunte, Vedas lo avi vunnayi,ivi vunnayi ani sollu kaburlu kaadu....Do some serious academic research, let it out infront of peers, publish it in a good journal. Then people will listen to you, respect you and fall behind your world view.

Likewise, Asalu Indian history ante comedy ... we have umpteen no. of things to do basic research..but memu adi peekam, idi peekam type superficial things. Peer group lone support lepothe, how do public will take you seriously.

Just for ex, I hate Paul Krugman...but he is a nobel laureate and widely respected Guy. Likewise, I like Niall Ferguson ... these are equal weights, but have opposing views of how to do macroeconomics.

India lo you have n number of guys on left- Kosambi, DSE, Ram Guha, Romila Thapar etc etc... But where is our right ??? Nothing

Dont tell me Subbu, gabbu, sabbu types.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 02:54 am:       


Bongaram:

show me a single article in any mainstream media that criticized sen? just one tweet.. one debate.. about the alleged misdeeds of Amartya Sen and how he ruined the institute..




http://www.outlookindia.com/article/nalanda-an-avatar-in-dis tress/281280

3 years back ye vochchindi and that too in a so called liberal media like Outlook...i can show dozens of articles that were very critical of his tenure..
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 02:47 am:       


Filmbuff:

Modalettara, vallu chesaru veellu chesaru arguments...vallu chesina thappe, evaru chesina thappe..Amartya Sen at Nalanda is a terrible case anyway. Chala forums lo janalu kummaru Sen ni..

But the problem with the BJP supporters in their ardent devotion to their deity, they equate a 2 bit pron star with acknowledged experts in their fields.


show me a single article in any mainstream media that criticized sen? just one tweet.. one debate.. about the alleged misdeeds of Amartya Sen and how he ruined the institute..

appudu vachi cheppandi.. vallu chesina tappe annappudu.. avi bayataku ravali kada.. goppa peru unna *pedda manishi* musugu lo entha edava panulu chesina noru ettaleru.. mallee vachi RSS/BJP meeda padipotaru ee media/eminents/experts/liberals etc..

and who acknowledges the expertise of whom?? a cozy club with I scratch ur back.. and u scratch my back and lets both become experts.. lol. thanks that the new govt is giving a hoot to these kind of 'experts'
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 02:34 am:       


Nihil:

India lo conservative intellectuals ante bhoothaddam petti vethikina dorakaru. They are non-existent...so ila non-entities ne appoint chesthunnaru...they are digging their own grave with these buffoons

We should take a leaf out of US and UK and establish think-tanks which churnout widely respected guys with heft

where are our Fred.hayek, John Locke, Edmund Burke, George Hamilton, Milton friedman, ayn rand, kristol etc etc??

Where are our Booth school of business, heritage foundation, Chatham house, Rand corp, federalist society, AEI etc etc??

Where is our WSJ, weekly standard, national review, drudge report, fox ??

India lo conservative intellectual is itself an oxymoron.. they are bunch of thirdclass invertebrates.


i guess u never heard of subramanian swamy,ss gurumurthy etc...also take a look at this

http://www.vifindia.org/ResearchTeam
http://www.vifindia.org/AdvisoryBoard
http://www.vifindia.org/ExecutiveCouncil

idi just sample..inka chaala mandi unnaru...intelligentsia in India is dominated by Left commies since Independence ....right wing intellectuals voice has been suppressed since long...
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 02:27 am:       


Filmbuff:


Modalettara, vallu chesaru veellu chesaru arguments...


yep, when people selectively nitpick, need to point that back right???
keka link:

fikileaks,
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 02:26 am:       


Bongaram:




Modalettara, vallu chesaru veellu chesaru arguments...vallu chesina thappe, evaru chesina thappe..Amartya Sen at Nalanda is a terrible case anyway. Chala forums lo janalu kummaru Sen ni..

But the problem with the BJP supporters in their ardent devotion to their deity, they equate a 2 bit pron star with acknowledged experts in their fields.


Nihil:




I agree totally with your views. Though i am not a supporter of Hayek, Friedman and more in the Keynes/ Krugman wing, the intellectual support framework of the Indian right is rather weak. To prop up fellows like Chauhan, Baldev Sharma and YS Rao (recently appointed head of ICHR) and the bhakts supporting them incessantly is just doing their cause a disservice. They should put forward alternative , solid names for consideration.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 02:06 am:       


Filmbuff:

Please go ahead and appoint people with political affiliations, but do not appoint people who are total non entities - even if you appointed Paresh Rawal, andaru nunchoni claps kottevallu. In Vajpayee's regime too, they had political appointees, but koncham worth unna candidates ni appoint chesaru. Not non-entities.


are you kidding? y such questions never raised when UR Ananthamurthy who never even did an ad film appointed as chairman of film institute? or Leela samson, a dance teacher for Priyanka vadra as censor board chairperson? what sort of entities are these?

and then.. Sonia gandhi appointed herself as Chairman of Nehru memorial trust.. a GOI entity, for which the default chairperson should be none other than prime minister..

what happen to all these dissenting voices then?

and then what is the contribution of these so called 'eminent' personalities for the institutes they helmed except indulging/spreading the commie idelogy? do u need a btr example than Amartya sen ($80k paycheck + all freebies with no accountability)and Nalanda university?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 01:19 am:       

India lo conservative intellectuals ante bhoothaddam petti vethikina dorakaru. They are non-existent...so ila non-entities ne appoint chesthunnaru...they are digging their own grave with these buffoons

We should take a leaf out of US and UK and establish think-tanks which churnout widely respected guys with heft

where are our Fred.hayek, John Locke, Edmund Burke, George Hamilton, Milton friedman, ayn rand, kristol etc etc??

Where are our Booth school of business, heritage foundation, Chatham house, Rand corp, federalist society, AEI etc etc??

Where is our WSJ, weekly standard, national review, drudge report, fox ??

India lo conservative intellectual is itself an oxymoron.. they are bunch of thirdclass invertebrates.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 12:37 am:       


Bongaram:

RSS tho sambandham unna vallabi apppoint cheste saffronization aite left wing vallabi chesinappudu anti Hindu anatam lo tappem undi?




Please go ahead and appoint people with political affiliations, but do not appoint people who are total non entities - even if you appointed Paresh Rawal, andaru nunchoni claps kottevallu. In Vajpayee's regime too, they had political appointees, but koncham worth unna candidates ni appoint chesaru. Not non-entities. Now they appointed as National Book Trust chairman someone who has never written a book in his life, just because he was editor of Panchajanya. Surely you could have found someone with literary history in the right wing supporters. Or is that a rare breed.

As a US saying goes - the problem with liberal (or Dems) is that they read only liberal literature while the problem with conservatives is that they read nothing.
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2015 - 11:46 pm:       

RSS tho sambandham unna vallabi apppoint cheste saffronization aite left wing vallabi chesinappudu anti Hindu anatam lo tappem undi?
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2015 - 09:33 pm:       

Screenplay consistency bavundhi, monna Gajendra Chauhan ni oppose chese vallu anti-Hindu ani chepparu...ippudu idhi..inka emi chitralu choodalo...

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New Delhi: An article in RSS’ mouthpiece Organiser has alleged that prestigious institutes like the IITs were being turned into places for “anti-India and anti-Hindu” activities.

At a time when the Opposition is attacking the Narendra Modi government over the “saffronisation” of educational and research institutes, the article has contended that the Left and Congress “still control the premium institutes” and
that both parties are “masters” at “ideological control” of an institute through its board of governors and directors. It also blamed this reason behind the opposition by some IIMs to government moves involving these institutes.

Claiming that non-vegetarian food began to be served at IIT Roorkee “in the holy city of Hardwar” and that students at NIT Rourkela were “stopped” from holding a puja in the community hall, both during UPA rule, it said these incidents show “these government-funded institutes from taxpayers’ money are becoming a place for anti-India and anti-Hindu activities”.

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