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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 12:56 pm:       


Nihil:

i have all the numbers ... I dont talk bull shit...each state GDP, contribution to center, and devolution of funds each and every number i have...I have posted multiple times in this DB and other fora...neeku ishtam lepothe •••••••...don't tailgate me.


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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 11:28 am:       


Tilak:

kinda nee kosame oka paper findings cite chesi icha .. ignore kotti emi pattanattu .. as usual .




Pedda pedda essays copy paste chessthe nenu adi chadivi PhD chesi neeku reply?? pakkaki dobbey vishayam lepothe ..Point to point matladu...

i have all the numbers ... I dont talk bull shit...each state GDP, contribution to center, and devolution of funds each and every number i have...I have posted multiple times in this DB and other fora...neeku ishtam lepothe ...don't tailgate me.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:49 am:       


Tilak:

hedge funds



7.5bn include exposure to govt. bonds and pe investments..
but US exposure to Germany, France and UK may bang a dunk eventually
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:48 am:       


Tilak:

vaallu okappudu eli .. ippudu moolana kurchunnaru




atla elina vallu..ippudu adukka thinta unte..adoka thuthi..cycle of life..

sagam mana deggara kottesinave...veellandaru..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:45 am:       


Rajusk:

prapanchanni elina rajyalu anni


vaallu okappudu eli .. ippudu moolana kurchunnaru .. ippudu elutunnadi meere ga .. :D
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:44 am:       


Theaviator:

not a big amount for US..around $7.5bn.. may be latest around $10bn undochemo


yup .. compared to the $18tn US has to repay .. $7.5bn is not really such a big deal .. but US banks bagane expose ayyayi anukunta .. through hedge funds etc?

Redbull:

they never and they can't


somebody has to pay .. who is it anedi question .. we or our next generation is just our choice or not really may be ..
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:43 am:       

db lo inni medhavalu vunnar ani ee thed choostante thelsukovachu
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:39 am:       


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.. also US financial institutions bagane expose ayyayi Greece ki ..




maa vollaki aithe intha ledu..edo chillara undi..direct deposits..

major vomerican banks jagartha padi untayi already..

padithe bokka european vaatiki padochu..

prapanchanni elina rajyalu anni :D
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:18 am:       

1 million doller house also is affrodable by you...ane laagaa create chesaaru moderen fiat economy..with all time low interest rates and just 5% deposits...

also ...all the westren world has taken out car buying scheme and introduced lease deals

Lease deals like these promote reckless financial decision making. Appealing to people who can't really afford these sorts of new cars but desperately want to look like they can.

Enables people to live outside their means....out of all these bloated economy they call it US and UK have come out of recession...they never and they can't
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:14 am:       


Tilak:

US financial institutions bagane expose ayyayi Greece ki..



not a big amount for US..around $7.5bn.. may be latest around $10bn undochemo
Sometime back numbers ila vunnai..
Germany-$57bn
France-$34bn
UK-$15bn
Bokka EU and Euro kee and ripple effects across 'on the edge' economies
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:09 am:       


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chinnaga sardhukomantaava desam vacchesi yavasayam cheskodam better antaava


kangarupadi tondara lo nirnayalu teesukoku .. ikkada maake bhoomi saripotledu .. meeru akkade undandi come what may .. :D
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:03 am:       


Tilak:

Greece baata lo chaala countries unnayi, appude avvaledu sambaralu .. also US financial institutions bagane expose ayyayi Greece ki ..




naakesinattena aithe ..chinnaga sardhukomantaava desam vacchesi yavasayam cheskodam better antaava leka pothe IMF maadhe currency enthaina kottukovocchu kabatti sit tiet antaava :D
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 09:57 am:       


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enti idhi baccha greece economy fall ki Dow 350 downaa .. emai poddho US so scary ..


Greece baata lo chaala countries unnayi, appude avvaledu sambaralu .. also US financial institutions bagane expose ayyayi Greece ki ..
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 09:54 am:       

enti idhi baccha greece economy fall ki Dow 350 downaa .. emai poddho US so scary ..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 09:27 am:       


Nihil:

India lo ayithe chelluthundi ee one way transfer, because ours is a currency union with center acting as a bully .


LOL .. no regard for truth or facts .. kinda nee kosame oka paper findings cite chesi icha .. ignore kotti emi pattanattu .. as usual .. veera viharam chestunnav nee istam vachinattu ..

cheyyi .. veera viharame cheyyi .. kaani gurram badulu gadida ekkithe chudataniki baledu .. :D
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 08:07 am:       


Vjavasi:

chppinatu naduchukovali, mee astulu maaku icheyali ante ela kuduutundhi




Ante perpetual ga one way transfer without strings ivvali antava?? Its a folly on part of other countries to give funds to greece..but now they have relaized and said enough.

India lo ayithe chelluthundi ee one way transfer, because ours is a currency union with center acting as a bully . But EU lo ee katha nadavadu.

I agree... Greece should exit... that is good for everybody.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 07:55 am:       

Appu chesi pappu koodu.. adhi greece kadha
Greece which is 2.5% of Eurozone GDP dint recover from 2008 global financial crisis.. debt crisis loomed..

Trimurthulu (TRIKONA) entered the scene: IMF, EU & ECB appu icharu
2010: Round1-E110bn (3yrs)
2010-11: Round2-E51bn Liquidity to private banks
2011-E109bn loan by Eurozone
Addtl EFSF fund of E750bn (loans and Guarantees)
These loans came with conditions to cut expenditure and increase revenue..

Pensions which account to 15% of GDP require a cut.. people dint like the idea.. Govt. changed with a commitment to renegotiate terms..

<<greece>>

Negotiations initiated by New Govt. came in bad taste to Trikona.. agreement not reached on conditions (one such thing is to cut pension by 1% of GDF)
Trikona: You cant draw fresh Tranche of loan
Greece: No repayment of loan until agreement renegotiated and I want more loan

Crisis tipped with no fresh funds and banks ran out of money.. Pensioners queued the Banks to draw deposits.. Banks closed for 7 days
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 07:35 am:       

Greece should default and that would be the beginning of end of financial mafia through this Globalization farce....nations have to learn to live within their means....for a peaceful and sustainable world global financial mafia have to fail
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 07:18 am:       


Nihil:


Greek woes ki EU ni blame cheyatam perfect DLM. EURO joining is voluntary..nobody forced Greece..Infact Greece only cooked their books with help of Goldman Sachs and joined EURO.

EU lo vunna UK, Denmark are mainatining their own currency. They are very happy. Antha pistha ayithe Greece also would have maintained drachma. Ippudu ade gathi le.




chakra vaddi vyaparulu egabadi Greece ki appulu ichaaru...resources anthaga leni greece teesukoni karchupettindhi.......apputo vadeelu katti, appu to imports chesukoni germany lanti countries lo industries ni poshinchinantha kalam andhariki bagane vundhi.....ippudu maa dabbu maaku kavali lekapothe meeru mem chppinatu naduchukovali, mee astulu maaku icheyali ante ela kuduutundhi....Greece capacity telisi kooda government ni manage chesi maree antha appu enduku ichaaru.....
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 06:54 am:       


Vjavasi:

Greece a financial colony




Greek woes ki EU ni blame cheyatam perfect DLM. EURO joining is voluntary..nobody forced Greece..Infact Greece only cooked their books with help of Goldman Sachs and joined EURO.

EU lo vunna UK, Denmark are mainatining their own currency. They are very happy. Antha pistha ayithe Greece also would have maintained drachma. Ippudu ade gathi le.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 06:42 am:       

Financial freedom(an independent fiscal policy) is integral part of national sovereignty.....without it an independent nationhood is a joke......European union made countries like Greece a financial colony
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 06:35 am:       


Vjavasi:

Basically Greece and US situation are not different, only difference Greece doesn't own Euro while US owns dollar....


One more important truth ignored by experts here is - Greek does not have a powerful army like the US! :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 06:32 am:       

Greece represents the dangers of Global financial mafia and a victim of it......Basically Greece and US situation are not different, only difference Greece doesn't own Euro while US owns dollar....
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 04:19 am:       

The government policy of 'freight equalization' introduced in 1952 further marginalized
Bihar and UP. Under this policy, railway freight rates for industrial inputs like
coal, iron ore, steel and cement were structured in a way that would ensure that they
were available at the same price in all parts of the country through government subsidies
(Kant, 1999; Mukherji & Mukherji, 2012). The impact of this policy is distributed
unevenly. While this policy helped some states of the south and west to build industries
with raw materials sourced from Bihar and UP at subsidized transport costs, it neutralized
the benefits of proximity and comparative advantage of Bihar and UP in establishing
locally available mineral resource-based industries (Guruswamy, Sharma, Prakash,
2006; Kant, 1999). While coal and other natural resources available in Bihar and other
eastern states were made available inexpensively to other parts of India, other industrial
inputs available in other parts of India were not included in the freight equalization
scheme, such as petroleum products. This policy negated the comparative advantages of
Bihar’s and UP’s mineral resources and affected industrial and economic growth
through dynamic loss of forward and backward linkages (Mukherji & Mukherji, 2012).
For instance, the Tata group decided to invest in Bihar because of its natural advantage
of minerals, but changed its decision after the introduction of this policy. Even after
withdrawal of the policy, industrial agglomeration bias continued. Engineering industries
were established in areas closer to markets or elsewhere where better infrastructure
was available or there were other financial incentives or benefits (Guruswamy et al.,
2005).
While the freight equalization policy was cancelled in 1992, Bihar and UP had
already fallen behind and in addition they continued to be constrained by an
unfriendly investment climate arising from weak physical and social infrastructure and
poor governance. While state–business relationship have improved significantly since
the mid-1980s in most states of India, it deteriorated in Bihar and minimum progress
was made in UP (Cali & Sen, 2011). The poor economic environment brought about
by conflict and poor governance reduces the security of property rights, increases costs
and the risks in investment. It drives investors to safer places and quick-earning activities.
As a result, private investment in Bihar is only 2.68% and in UP 12.22% of gross
state domestic products, while the average is 16.45% in major 14 states (Ahluwalia,
2000).
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 04:18 am:       

Bihar and UP have been further disadvantaged by receiving relatively less externally
funded projects and financial resources including loans and grants from the centre. The
non-plan development allocations and grants received by the states from the centre also
follow the trend of the plan allocation where Bihar and UP receive less than the national
average. Bihar received half of the national average of the grants and UP just over two-
fifths (Table 3).
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 03:41 am:       


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Table 2 presents the per capita plan allocation to the states from the centre in the
1st to 11th Five-Year Plan period (1951–2012). Bihar and UP have been receiving less
per capita allocation from the centre for development expenditure (Table 3) than any
other of the states. Until the 7th Plan (1990), Bihar and UP received less than half the
national average allocation. Although in the 8th Plan Bihar and UP received slightly
higher per capita resource allocations, they still received much less than the all-India per
capita average. After the 8th Plan, allocations to Bihar and UP were once again reduced.
Bihar received less than half the all-India average and UP got two-thirds to two-fifths.
If the planned allocation is compared with the developed states such as Punjab,
Haryana, Gujarat and Maharashtra, it is clear that Bihar and UP have been
systematically deprived of funds. In the 1st Plan, Bihar and UP’s planned allocation was
less than one-fourth of Punjab. This pattern has continued for almost the entire plan
period. Contrarily, Gujarat, Maharashtra and Haryana received per capita allocation of
more than double that of Bihar and UP during the entire plan period.




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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 01:45 am:       

too much welfare schemes tooo...train driver ki 122 k euros salary... 55 years ke pension...

and euro is a failed system
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 01:22 am:       


Bugatti:

why go through all this...knowing it would be charity.




I tried to explain in very simple terms and analogy. But the issue is more complex. Indulo Geopolitics kooda vunnayi apart from Economy.

For example, this is not the first time Greece is in this kind of shit. Back in mid century Greece was defaulted, at that time US (Harry Truman) gave good money to Greece to prevent it from going to Russia.
Same card play chesthunnaru Greece vallu ippudu if you donot give money we will sell ourselves to Russia.

Russia tho alliance ante Europe and US ki vatts pack. So they are giving money. Greece Pure blackmail

LOL..Ikkada kooda manaki analogy vundi..recent ga Modi gave billions of dollars to Mongol, nepal, bangala other countries. reason being China...kikiki adi matter.

Andhra ki appam appam , Bangala ki boorelu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 01:13 am:       


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valu emaina eripoos aa...credit check manishi ke cheyali ante enni formalities vuntai. oka nation ki pogeyali ante wouldn't they have known this was impending....why go through all this...knowing it would be charity.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 01:07 am:       


Bugatti:




Inko simple analogy.

South Central Railway (Sec+Guntur+Vijaywada+Vizag+Guntakal+nanded divisions) is leading revenue generating both in terms of goods+passenger sections.
110 Billion rupees income. But, Budget allocation lo 500 crores kooda ivvaru.

Most of it is diverted to bihar,bengal,up etc.

So AP is Germany and Bhayya ganlu is Greece :-) Adi matter.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 12:55 am:       


Nihil:





Izzat Nagar Pahelwan
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 12:54 am:       


Bugatti:

How so ? Rupee is just a currency.




Euro, Rupee, Dollar all are currencies.

1) Rupee is Indias currency ( all states). Likewise, Dollar is US currency.
So, for example Oka state in India (Bihar, UP are always lagging) deficit lo vunte Center can transfer funds to these from well performing states ( AP, TN,MH) with out any problem. Alane, US lo kooda ( Alabama, Alaska) can be bailed out from other states. This is called financial union

2) Euro problem entante Euro is common currency with out the above advantage. Greece (Like Bihar, UP) is asking Germany ( Like AP, TN) to give them funds for ever to enjoyyy. Initially they gave, but after 5 yrs of one way flow, they said offf.

Simple ga adi matter.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 12:46 am:       


Nihil:

So verry pook states like UP,Bihar can leech money from performing states like Andhra, TN, MH.





How so ? Rupee is just a currency. Unless part of a sovereign states budget is being allocated to another state there is no affect on account balances right ?

anyhow super rasav bhayya...your input is much appreciated. enni TIME, Economist articles chadivina ardam kani vishayam oka paragraph lo super cheppav
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 12:38 am:       


Nihil:

So verry pook states like UP,Bihar can leech money from performing states like Andhra, TN, MH. Last 50 yr nunchi same story. One way flow with help of 14th finance, SEBI, Bhayya ganlu and their chamchas.


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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 12:35 am:       

Basically Greece has spent above their means. Lot of cheap money combined with over generous welfare society, corruption, tax evasion.

Finance crisis had opened their big bokka of economy. They are asking other euro countries (germany, france, scandinavian countries) to bail them out with money which they are doing since last 5 years. In return, they are asking to control their spending, increase tax etc. to clean their system. But, fukkat ki alavatu padda Greek prajalu resisting.

This is the crux of the matter.

To start with, Greece should have never adopted Euro as currency with out any benifits of financial union. Chinna example chappali ante India- our currency is Rupee and all states are in finance union. So verry pook states like UP,Bihar can leech money from performing states like Andhra, TN, MH. Last 50 yr nunchi same story. One way flow with help of 14th finance, SEBI, Bhayya ganlu and their chamchas.

Greece is asking the same, but Germancy& other countries are saying enough is enough.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 09:48 pm:       


Simba:

ppudu Greek ante gurthuku vacchedi okkate :D




yoghurt kada :D
chobaani :D
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 09:40 pm:       


Bushu:

aadu macedonia kadhaa. :-) but archimedes type candidates ochina desam. now just lazy ass liars.



Rajusk:

Alexander the great vachina desam ki paristhithi ravadam..too bad yaa..



Yup. Too bad. Paruvu antha poyindi.

Ippudu Greek ante gurthuku vacchedi okkate :D
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 09:37 pm:       


Bushu:

Rajusk:
Alexander the great vachina desam ki paristhithi ravadam..too bad yaa..


aadu macedonia kadhaa. but archimedes type candidates ochina desam. now just lazy ass liars.




ante uncle greeku veerudu song chusi mosa poyinattunnadu
 

Bushu
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 09:34 pm:       


Rajusk:

Alexander the great vachina desam ki paristhithi ravadam..too bad yaa..




aadu macedonia kadhaa. :-) but archimedes type candidates ochina desam. now just lazy ass liars.
 

Rajusk
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 09:21 pm:       


Bushu:

liars. just like argentina. misfits in euro.




Alexander the great vachina desam ki paristhithi ravadam..too bad yaa..
 

Bushu
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 08:34 pm:       

liars. just like argentina. misfits in euro.
 

Masularex
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 12:27 pm:       

2004 summer olympics host chesi naaki poyaaru...
 

Awara1984
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 11:50 am:       

Greece vallemo teesukunna appulani salaries n pensions ki spend chesaru more than 50% rather than investing on other things, euro fixed currency valla they do not have competency to export and are importing majority
 

Awara1984
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 11:35 am:       

IMF n other countries Greece ki loan ichai, greece own ga kuda bonds dwara loan teesukunnaru

Inni rojulu IMF n etc ichina appu ki interest kattadaniki malla IMF n etc loans icharu

Now vaddi kattadaniki iche appu ni aapesaru
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 11:28 am:       

This is the simple to read explainer I could find on web
http://time.com/3939664/greece-crisis-euro-guide-explainer/
For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 10:28 am:       

bump
Snakes in Your backyard won't bite only your neighbours.
#Hillary Clinton
 

Bugatti
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2015 - 10:02 am:       

evaraina greece lo emi avuthundo sarigga cheppundri paleezzz.....okkati koda ardam avatle
Izzat Nagar Pahelwan

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