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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 10:22 pm:       


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one more theory, vibhishan is the brother of rama.




another story, the real one this time. rama and ravana are sons of dasaratha. notice the naming pattern, start with r and end with a. ravana is born with a deformity of 10 faces and so is banished as a cursed child. a kind sage named aravasura takes him away to this island and makes him all powerful. tells him the story after a long time. and so he takes his revenge by kidnapping his brother's wife. since he could not complete his mission in the first life, tries it in the next life as duryodhana. the freaky rama is born again as krishna and stops him again. ..and on and on it goes. until finally ravana is born in kaliyuga as lakshmi parvathi's husband. and rama comes back again and takes her away ..... sad story.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 10:15 pm:       


Madrascalcutta:

There is a Malayalam movie based on the Sitha is Ravana's daughter theory.




our teacher told this theory. astrologers tell ravan that this kid is gonna sound his death knell, so he throws away the kid in ocean.

one more theory, vibhishan is the brother of rama.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 10:14 pm:       


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But Ravana got greedy and ate the whole part. Then he became pregnant.




remember this for when western science catches up and makes a man pregnant. we got there first. always.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 10:11 pm:       

Another theory does exist that Ramayana and Srilanka have nothing to do with one another. It all took place in North India. Srilanka was added in later versions. Srilankans are unaware for the most part about this ... I don't think it has anything to do with Buddhist invasion. There is a Malayalam movie based on the Sitha is Ravana's daughter theory.

There are those in North India who believe South Indians are the people of Ravana. Again, with a large oral tradition, who can determine the original story. There are a lot of agenda based theories now. Best to research than be influenced by opinions.

Most European fairy tales have twisted over centuries to something else. That is the nature of stories.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 06:41 am:       

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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 06:41 am:       

Ma office lo srilanka vadini adiga oka roju telyadu annadu
 

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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 06:26 am:       


Chanakya:

doesnt it only confirm that there is no local belief towards these historical incidents?


No idea abt this.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 06:14 am:       


~chirutha~:

Ramayana tours may have been started to cash in. But that doesnt take away the Sri Lanka from the picture of Ramayana kada ?




it does kada! doesnt it only confirm that there is no local belief towards these historical incidents?
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 06:12 am:       


Chanakya:

Srilanka Govt started "Ramayana tours" to cash in on Indian tourists.


Ramayana tours may have been started to cash in. But that doesnt take away the Sri Lanka from the picture of Ramayana kada ? :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 06:11 am:       


Chanakya:

evariki complete info undadu but complete confidence aithe untadi


Haha baga cheppavu. Instilled information from childhood. Gandhi is Father of nation, My country is the best, etc kuda alanti kova loke vasthayi :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:59 am:       


Tilak:

Mythology ante fiction .. if we are clear that it is fiction




The confusion is which is Mythology ani :D

But our mythology is best fiction i ever heard!
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:57 am:       


~chirutha~:

Could be some other Rama annavu kada. That is least possible antunna.


Enduku avvakudadu? There are lots of Thai kings who were named Rama .. since time immemorial .. so why not His namesake and not Him ..

Chanakya:

Mythology, religion etc topics ettukunte confusion common ee kada.... evariki complete info undadu but complete confidence aithe untadi


Mythology ante fiction .. if we are clear that it is fiction .. inka confusion undadu .. :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:54 am:       


~chirutha~:

What I feel is - Anywhere in the world a person is educated by max 2 generations. When some religion sweeps away entire country there wouldn't be pointers left and one has to believe whatever is said. For example take converted Muslims/Christians in India - who would teach them the Hindu literature or legends? Same happened in Sri lanka. Buddhism swept away everything from the country. And most importantly the pointer left is they believe Ravana ruled their land.




Completely swept avatam annadhi avadhu ani naa adhi idhi :D i am not able to recollect completely but i read long back some Srilankan article(s) on how Srilanka Govt started "Ramayana tours" to cash in on Indian tourists.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:52 am:       


Tilak:

also may add more confusion to those two .





Mythology, religion etc topics ettukunte confusion common ee kada.... evariki complete info undadu but complete confidence aithe untadi :D
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:51 am:       


Tilak:

what exactly are you contradicting in my post?


Could be some other Rama annavu kada. That is least possible antunna.

Chanakya:

This is what i said earlier "Srilanka cashing in on Ramayana" :D i doubt the origin of this trend


What I feel is - Anywhere in the world a person is educated by max 2 generations. When some religion sweeps away entire country there wouldn't be pointers left and one has to believe whatever is said. For example take converted Muslims/Christians in India - who would teach them the Hindu literature or legends? Same happened in Sri lanka. Buddhism swept away everything from the country. And most importantly the pointer left is they believe Ravana ruled their land.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:51 am:       


Chanakya:

discussion between two leads to knowledge addition of those two individuals.


also may add more confusion to those two .. :D
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:48 am:       


Tilak:

I aint surprised :D




:D :D

discussion between two leads to knowledge addition of those two individuals.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:45 am:       


Chanakya:

Cynical undali bhayya - leda hinduism kuda "blood lo cells disciplined ga unnai" type aipotadi



Chanakya:

You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist. ~Friedrich Nietzsche


I aint surprised :D
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:42 am:       


Tilak:

extremely cynical view of the collective intelligence of those people of that time! anyways .. disco for some other time ..




Cynical undali bhayya - leda hinduism kuda "blood lo cells disciplined ga unnai" type aipotadi :D
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:41 am:       


Tilak:

thats an interesting question .. Indic languages lo .. specially Sanskrit, Pali llo unnayi .. more pertaining to India only .. ee Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia llo emi jarugutondo same time lo .. naaku telisi aithe capture cheyyaledu .. or they did not survive to this day .. as-is




Hm this is a big miss manaki...... contemporary times are crucial in establishing timelines for a king. Mana duradrushtam we lost many due to invasions.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:32 am:       


~chirutha~:

Antha ledu. Islam n Christianity anni desalaku vistharinchinatlu Hindu dharma and its many gods travelled places. Cambodia saw the pinnacle of Hinduism at one point. Deeni meeda seperate thread veyachu


what exactly are you contradicting in my post? :-)

Chanakya:

Also by reverse engineering i meant the cave in lanka might be picked by already existing folk fore of Srilanka, Natural bridge can be picked by word of mouth (idey kada mana primitive communication)


extremely cynical view of the collective intelligence of those people of that time! anyways .. disco for some other time ..

Chanakya:

What i am really curious is , are there any contemporary literature for Ramayana ? which talks about other kings/things of Ramayana times?


thats an interesting question .. Indic languages lo .. specially Sanskrit, Pali llo unnayi .. more pertaining to India only .. ee Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia llo emi jarugutondo same time lo .. naaku telisi aithe capture cheyyaledu .. or they did not survive to this day .. as-is
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:20 am:       


~chirutha~:

Ramayana tours in Sri Lanka :-)




This is what i said earlier "Srilanka cashing in on Ramayana" :D i doubt the origin of this trend :-)

Tilak:

come on .. reverse engineering aithe .. communication systems leni rojullo .. from Ayodhya to Rameshwaram .. reverse engineer chesi temples/trails kattadam kudurutunda? how is it even possible? logically?




All the temples arent dated kada? Lets say for examples Ramayana epic spread to a far away place, people obviously will be wow'd by Rama characteristic - temple kattaru antava?

Also by reverse engineering i meant the cave in lanka might be picked by already existing folk fore of Srilanka, Natural bridge can be picked by word of mouth (idey kada mana primitive communication)

What i am really curious is , are there any contemporary literature for Ramayana ? which talks about other kings/things of Ramayana times?
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:19 am:       

sl,thailand etc desallo ramayanam has lot of variations, ani sinapudu balamitra/bujjayi lo sadivaan
 

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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:19 am:       

Then Kambhoj is now Cambodia antaru....Nijamenaa?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:19 am:       


Chirupower:

Indonesia rocks amma peruke muslim country kaani superb temples untayi.
Vinayakudi bomma kooda currency meedha pettukunnaru.


They firmly believe - "Islam is their religion and Hinduism their culture". Bolls to our democracy and politics which made us boneless in this regard :-(
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 05:18 am:       


~chirutha~:

Cambodia


Perfest...Now i remeber the name, Cambodia u r right. This is the place I was tlking about
 

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Tilak:

thats the beauty of Hindu culture .. could be some other Rama? Thailand rajulandariki ippatiki kuda Sanskrit names ee pedataru ..


Antha ledu. Islam n Christianity anni desalaku vistharinchinatlu Hindu dharma and its many gods travelled places. Cambodia saw the pinnacle of Hinduism at one point. Deeni meeda seperate thread veyachu

"If any country in historic times had matched India in its faith in Hinduism, it was perhaps Cambodia. In this war torn Buddhist monarchy, which has met many tragedies in recent times, you find that coronation is complete only with the handing over of ancient gold idols of Shiva and Vishnu by the rajaguru to the king. More than a hundred temples, mostly in a state of ruin, tell the story of the great empire of the Khmers, who worshipped Shiva, Vishnu, Brahma and the Buddha. It is here in
Cambodia that Suryavarman built his truly colossal temple dedicated to Vishnu — Angkor Wat, believed by million of visitors, to be most worthy of being included in the Seven Wonders of the world. Angkor Wat, the largest stone temple for any deity in the world, has a nearly 2.7 km circumambulatory passage with gigantic carvings devoted to the epic stories of the churning of the ocean, Ramayana, Mahabharata and so on."

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Gabbar_singh:

Ramudu thailand eppudu velladu ani chaala sepu juttu peekkoni vadilesaaa


thats the beauty of Hindu culture .. could be some other Rama? Thailand rajulandariki ippatiki kuda Sanskrit names ee pedataru .. :-)
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Chanakya:


Ramayana tours in Sri Lanka :-)
http://www.tourslanka.com/ramayana/
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 04:52 am:       

Monna eppudooo TLC channel lo Food Program choostunte...aa cook gadu ekkado oka cave lo vanta prgrm pettadu...adi thailand oo ekkadooo idea ledhu...akkada cave lo vanta chesi oka musali buddist monk ki tinipinchi....ee cave yokka imp enti ani asked

Ikkada Ram ani oka warrior price okanoka timelo seeta ni dachi pettadu...paina chinna bokka undi...akkada nundi choose vadu...lopala ela undo entoo ani....edo story solladu

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Chanakya:

Reverse engineering quite possible kada? Chetan bhagat book lo IIT base cheskoni characters story untayi..... now we cannot say "IIT is present" so "characters are present"


come on .. reverse engineering aithe .. communication systems leni rojullo .. from Ayodhya to Rameshwaram .. reverse engineer chesi temples/trails kattadam kudurutunda? how is it even possible? logically?
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Tilak:

may be .. may be not .. how are we so sure to conclude Sri Lanka is not the Lanka of Ramayana .. specially when there is Varadhi, Rameshwaram temple in India, Ashoka Vana, so called Ravana's palace in SL etc




Reverse engineering quite possible kada? Chetan bhagat book lo IIT base cheskoni characters story untayi..... now we cannot say "IIT is present" so "characters are present"

Real places ni vadukovadam common ee kada, Himalayas are part of many Mythological stories
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 03:56 am:       


Chanakya:

Arent we making the mistake of mapping Old Ramayana literature's demographics to present day geography?


may be .. may be not .. how are we so sure to conclude Sri Lanka is not the Lanka of Ramayana .. specially when there is Varadhi, Rameshwaram temple in India, Ashoka Vana, so called Ravana's palace in SL etc
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Tilak:

Tamils lo oka section of people nammutaru ala .. they feel huge tracts of land including Lanka have submerged in the sea .. Sangam literature lo evo references kuda unnayi ani antaru ..




Arent we making the mistake of mapping Old Ramayana literature's demographics to present day geography?
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Chanakya:

There is another school of thought which says Lanka is somewhere in South India but not the now Srilanka


Tamils lo oka section of people nammutaru ala .. they feel huge tracts of land including Lanka have submerged in the sea .. Sangam literature lo evo references kuda unnayi ani antaru ..
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 03:35 am:       


Tilak:

so let me search and get back




Sure..... There is another school of thought which says Lanka is somewhere in South India but not the now Srilanka
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Chanakya:

deeni valla Folk fore lantivi povu kada....... if indeed Ramayana was that big as proclaimed we would have still heard of


folk lore .. yes .. unnayi ani telusu .. but content telidu .. so let me search and get back :D
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 03:24 am:       


~chirutha~:

Indonesia/Malasia lo Rama is portrayed as villain who took away Sita from Ravan. Sita is his daughter according to their legends :-) Idi telusa ?




Yes, i heard this bit. As per one legend, when Ravana and Mandodari were not having kids, they prayed for kids and got a mango and they had to each eat half of it. But Ravana got greedy and ate the whole part. Then he became pregnant. To spare himself the silliness, he was asked to sneeze and out landed the unborn Sita into the ground. So in this way Sita was Ravana's daughter antaru, but Ravana did not know this.

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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 03:23 am:       

Indonesia rocks amma peruke muslim country kaani superb temples untayi.

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~chirutha~:

Indonesia/Malasia lo Rama is portrayed as villain who took away Sita from Ravan. Sita is his daughter according to their legends :-) Idi telusa ??




Dint know... looks like someone reverse-engineered a native story to Ramayana :D happens
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 03:14 am:       


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obvious kada .. SL lo Hindu cultural heritage poyi .. Buddhist vachesindi .. and it has happened a lot earlier .. while Indonesia/Malaysia .. though Muslim nations .. cultural ga pedda changes raaledu from Hindu way of life ..




deeni valla Folk fore lantivi povu kada....... if indeed Ramayana was that big as proclaimed we would have still heard of
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 03:12 am:       


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I guess Indonesia/Malaysia etc lo inka prevelant anukunta Ramayana more than Srilanka


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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 03:12 am:       


Chanakya:

I guess Indonesia/Malaysia etc lo inka prevelant anukunta Ramayana more than Srilanka


obvious kada .. SL lo Hindu cultural heritage poyi .. Buddhist vachesindi .. and it has happened a lot earlier .. while Indonesia/Malaysia .. though Muslim nations .. cultural ga pedda changes raaledu from Hindu way of life ..
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 - 03:09 am:       

Ramayana isnt that prevalent or for that matter mostly absent in Srilanka..... Except for Srilanka using Indian version to promote their own tourism akada Janalalo kani old scriptures lo kani unda?

King Ravana is known in Srilanka but does that guarantee if he is the same one? What was his demise said about in Srilankan scriptures.

I guess Indonesia/Malaysia etc lo inka prevelant anukunta Ramayana more than Srilanka
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