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7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 454 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 50.7.78.91 Rating: N/A |
rajputs ante kannada prantha nundi vellina rashtrakutas ani kooda antaaru..
kamred, manaki urgent ga oka time machine kaavali..j/k mana society lo kooda sangham and ganam ani experiments jarigaayi kada, but ekkuva details choodaledu nenu. | ||
7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 453 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 50.7.78.91 Rating: N/A |
quoteauthor{Lenin, All the emperors were asshol*s...this is my only version! } raajul matthul vaari seva narakaprayambu antaavu durjati bashalo  | ||
Bongaram Hero Username: Bongaram Post Number: 17767 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 223.227.212.17 Rating: |
Bravery is not measured just in winning but in dying too.. Many rajputs didn't submit to the overwhelming power and cruelty of enemy.. | ||
Bongaram Hero Username: Bongaram Post Number: 17766 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 223.227.212.17 Rating: |
stop the nonsense dude.. Even Krishna devaraya had many wives.. And most of them are war 'gifts'.. Valla position lo undi think chey. How difficult and how painful those decisions are ani.. Emaina broker gaalla oorike kooturlani supply cheyyataniki.. Relations are key to save people and kingdom | ||
Thokkalohdi Side Hero Username: Thokkalohdi Post Number: 7185 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 24.6.109.30 Rating: N/A |
North has seen more wars... and suffered more invasions than south... Ranbir Kapoor is god of acting | ||
Thokkalohdi Side Hero Username: Thokkalohdi Post Number: 7184 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 24.6.109.30 Rating: N/A |
400yrs back jarigina sangatana ki rumorss... evadi fort lo evadu tongi chusadu... he said she said... 4 yrs back jarigina celebrity poopoos cover aypothunnayi... 400yrs back jarigina sanghatanalu ela ninnoo moonnoo jariginattu septhunnarr saami.... me m ki na sulamalikalu... (m anaga medadu) Ranbir Kapoor is god of acting | ||
Ideal_brain Junior Artist Username: Ideal_brain Post Number: 136 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 24.188.41.216 Rating: |
Based on what i know prithviraj chauhan followed the rules of the war as per hindu dharma and let Ghori live because he asked for mercy. However he was defeated in a Gurreila war by ghori and it is unfortunate that we indians have to doubt the bravery of pruthviraj chauhan. As far as i know most mughal emperors followed the gurreila war(which is the modus operandi of most of the terrorist organization in today). | ||
Lenin Side Hero Username: Lenin Post Number: 5930 Registered: 08-2014 Posted From: 122.107.192.235 Rating: N/A |
Did I post any version of communism here? All the emperors were asshol*s...this is my only version! asal janal ni valla ki istam undo ledo telikanda rule chesi , malla vvalla tax la tho denki taguta, muggur nalugur pellal enugul gurrala tho enjoy chese edavallo manchollu cheddollu enti na bonda | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5678 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 174.22.249.234 Rating: N/A |
you please save us by not posting your commie version of history... | ||
Lenin Side Hero Username: Lenin Post Number: 5920 Registered: 08-2014 Posted From: 122.107.192.235 Rating: N/A |
People discussing like as if there were medieval time junta concerned only about Hindu - Muslims rivlary, Muslim invasion may be after 100 years, if any one writes Indian history as Modi vs Gandhi family, one from that era will laugh their as*s off like us, people in medieval time might have so many problems dude no one saved Hinduism nor destroyed it... Again, fundamentalists should be blamed more... they take nothing but religion out of history, they are least bothered about what was poverty rate, literacy rate... | ||
Lenin Side Hero Username: Lenin Post Number: 5919 Registered: 08-2014 Posted From: 122.107.192.235 Rating: |
Is there any sense to the debate about Maharana Pratap, Akbar, etc? Both are dcikwads. As are all rulers in those medeival times. The point of History is to study the times people lived in, their contribution to human knowledge, creativity, food, culture, political structure, etc. Not to glorify historical figures as great, awesome, super cool etc. History is only a data point that may help us to understand human civilizations, their rise and fall. All the Emperors are overrated, in the bigger scheme of things, Akbar, Babar, Ashoka, are all irrelevant. Anyways, Medieval Indian history is viewed purely through Hindu-Muslim prism. But that is only one aspect of it. | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5676 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.221 Rating: |
In spite of repeated attacks for centuries my Mani Barbarians, Monarchs could not break the Spirit of India or its Religion Yes there was a Huge Impact. But even the Murderous Barbarians also could not alter the soul of Bharat Varsha Thanks to the Great Souls who fought in many ways to retain its integrity | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 37623 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.55.80 Rating: N/A |
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Gsn1 Side Hero Username: Gsn1 Post Number: 3356 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 174.78.225.66 Rating: N/A |
For INVADERS, WAR is a FULL TIME occupation. Where as for INDIAN kings and kingdom's, it was a passive and peaceful life. Given the above CONTRAST, Indian kings did OK in restricting the barbarous invaders for such a long time. We were skilled, but WAR was ONE OF MANY activities for Indian kings in those times. | ||
7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 449 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 50.7.78.91 Rating: N/A |
palanati brahmanaidu turumkhan ani nuvvu kooda thoda kottu chantodaa.. | ||
7kondalu Junior Artist Username: 7kondalu Post Number: 448 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 50.7.78.91 Rating: N/A |
MVR Sastry ide topic meeda appatlo andhrabhoomi lo articles raasaru "Edi Nijam" anukuntaa title. ayana raasindi entha varaku nijamo teliyadu kaani, janalaki thega nacchesaayi aa articles. tharuvatha daaniki followup inko series raasaru (idi nijam anukuntaa),but nenu full follow avvaledu. as per him, manollu handsup ani chethulu ettheyyaledu. maximum try chesaaru and were successful in initial days, but malli malli jarigina attacks tho weak ayyaru. alane mana daggara war ante few ruls undev (ivvalti terms lo cheppali ante geneva convention type), but outsiders ki alanti ibbandulu levu. day or night, armed or unarmed, fit or unfit ani manollu alochisthu unte, allu kosukellipoyaaru. | ||
Komaranna Side Hero Username: Komaranna Post Number: 6093 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 204.94.39.142 Rating: N/A |
guud ette kodi ko telustundi G neeppi..mumbaikar okadu Marathas are great warriors antadu..tamilodu kattabrahmnna 2good antadu...but enemy enter avvagane hit sesedi rajasthan rajpuths ne kada...girls in the past treated as luxary items...entha beautiful keeps vunte aa raju antha goppa ani sadiva | ||
Mamamiya786 Hero Username: Mamamiya786 Post Number: 17507 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 73.43.147.206 Rating: |
Rajput kings are overrated ...any their army too. No bigger out look. ..edo yuddam chesama ..glichama vodama anthe ... Rajputana lo vunna kings andaru ..constant Mughaals ki wifes ni supply chesaru ..some times 4th/5th/6h.. pathetic.. papam..aa pillalu mughals wifes/concubine ga poi veela prestiege ni kapdaru .. Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt. Jagan|Modi| | ||
Saint Legend Username: Saint Post Number: 51379 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132 Rating: N/A |
akhand bharath anehdi boothu anukunta...very very few kings had ruled bharath anukunta kada? migatha anni chinna kingdoms like middle easy countries. History ni choosi, appduu atla chesi vunte baguntundi anukuntunnaru kaani, oka chinna kingdom vaadu, pakka vaadi kosam war kellali ani enduku anukuntadu? why wud he risk his ppl lives / resources? (akhand bharath feelings appatlo levu kadaa?) south / north kooda boothu.... | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 17034 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.222.1 Rating: N/A |
disagree...manolu as a whole deprive chesindhi emi ledu..marathas, chaluyas,cholas, vijayanagara inka munduku velthe guptas, mauryas, satavahans etc......babur oche timeki delhi lo unnadhi maroka invader kingdom ee..not manolu. but many a times manolu various chinna chinna rajyalu la vidipoyaru..with samantha rajus etc..aa timelo deprivation kachitamga jarigi undachu.. | ||
Bongaram Hero Username: Bongaram Post Number: 17692 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 103.245.47.20 Rating: |
u r coming up with exceptions when the counter cases are plentiful | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28633 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
LOL .. 100% prati Rajput family lo undakkarledu, though they are way above the avg .. Every sikh family has an army man ante .. army man lekapothe aa family sikhs kaadu annatta?  many Rajputs do join the army. Like Jat regiment and Gorkha regiment, there is a Rajputana Rifles!!Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 6888 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.128.168 Rating: N/A |
Its so obvious that you don't have any Rajput friends...i have a few...one of my closest friends is a Rajput..no one from his family or his wife's family have any army connections...haayiga ga govt. service lo udyogam cheskuntunnaru.. This is what myth-making is. Btw - mee Modi centralisation tho maa vadu sasthonnadu...he is a Jt. Commissioner in the IRS, been trying for a transfer order for long, met a few ministers, but only Modi can move the files anta..and he is constantly on the road..ilanti decisions kooda Modi ki veltam enti silly ga...don't sweat the small stuff ani cheppandi.. | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28631 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
ala facts matladithe .. north fetish ani hatred choopistaru .. chulakana ga matladataru .. to play for wells .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28630 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: N/A |
In this spirit, I never deny the facts. It is to mocking and derision that I object to. We used do that day in and day out in Shakhas .. honest discussions are good. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Bongaram Hero Username: Bongaram Post Number: 17675 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 103.245.47.20 Rating: |
Bravery ki winning ki relation emundi.. size, strategy are all matter.. above all this the invaders are ruthless.. They killed millions of civilians which was not practices in wars among Indian kings. Kalla mundu bharya pillalni rapes chesi champutu unte evadiki aina morale down avutundi. Gurkhas are the fiercest warriors on earth.. mari vaallu enni gelicharu.. Even today Rajputs ninchi intiki okadu untadu military lo.. They take pride in that. vallaki mana south comedians ki polika emundi | ||
Redclaw777 Side Hero Username: Redclaw777 Post Number: 2723 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 49.206.63.54 Rating: N/A |
On a lighter note, after seein this disco, got reminded of famous dialogue by Brahmi in Adhurs, "Charitra demundi ra.....Chimpesthe Chirigipoddhi...."  | ||
Blundersucks Side Hero Username: Blundersucks Post Number: 2522 Registered: 02-2013 Posted From: 49.205.118.102 Rating: N/A |
history anedi bull shit most of the times.. take it with pinch of salt.. evado edo vaadiki ishtam vachinatlu raaste daanine follow ayipothaam.. ee desa charitra choosina emunnadi garva karanam, Nara jaathi charitra samstam , parapeedana parayanatvaM | ||
~chirutha~ Side Hero Username: ~chirutha~ Post Number: 4128 Registered: 10-2011 Posted From: 59.145.137.97 Rating: N/A |
History ante evariki vallu vallaki kavalsinatlu rasukunna Diary. Instead of studying history, we need to study stories that are useful for future building. Be Kool  | ||
Maanas Side Hero Username: Maanas Post Number: 2073 Registered: 09-2014 Posted From: 106.51.234.125 Rating: N/A |
aa writer gaadu migata articles chuste vaado reservation candidate + a sickular candi la unnadu fyi..  1. No one is born hating the other gender that requires feminism https://youtu.be/p9DQINKZxWE?t=5m6s 2. with aagadu mahesh babu became mahesh bhatt!!! ki ki ki 292 palakol tagore ki ki ki | ||
Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 19971 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 106.208.164.2 Rating: N/A |
lol.... Deniki, to cry foul at saffronization efforts of bjp??? Accuse bjp of trying to create communal tensions by inciting a peaceful religion by mocking their kings ani sickular media propoganda chesthe enjoy cheyyadanika??? Lol we are already immersed in stupidity and absurdity.... Nothing that we'd loose by doing some more stupid things.... Nothing to absolve us.... Let's be in the system to beat it.... Lol keka link: fikileaks, | ||
Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 19970 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 106.208.164.2 Rating: N/A |
stand by what??? What you said in flow or???
Lol.... keka link: fikileaks, | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 6885 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.128.168 Rating: N/A |
Oh, flow lo annana, but i still stand by it.
Actually Mughals ni kooda peekeyandi, let's not glorify them. They were invaders, forcible proselitysers etc etc. But because we are singing paeans to them, we have to glority someone else in stupid. Just present all the facts to the public anthe. Akbar the great, ilantivi cheppakunda pillalaki - present facts, let people form their own opinion.. | ||
Hadoop Junior Artist Username: Hadoop Post Number: 929 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 99.127.225.114 Rating: N/A |
rape kadu kada..juhar chesukondi anta.. Mewar[edit] Sultan Alau'd Din put to Flight; Women of Ranthambhor commit Jauhar; Rajput painting from 1825 On 28 January 1303 Alauddin started for Mewar, a powerful kingdom of north-west India. According to legend, Alauddin heard of the unparalleled beauty of Rani Padmini, wife of Ratan Singh. He went to Chittor with an intention to siege the fort and went in by saying that he wanted to see the Rani. This of course was an act of shame for a Hindu king, but Ratan Singh gave in. He persuaded his wife to let the sultan see her. She gave her consent and allowed Alauddin see her reflection in a mirror. While all this was going on his men secretly surveyed the inside of the fort. On seeing the beauty of the queen Alauddin was determined to get her for his harem. On his return to Delhi he got Ratan Singh in accompanying him. he used this opportunity and kidnapped him. The Songara Chauhan generals Gora & Badal decided to beat the Sultan at his own game and sent back a word that Padmini would be given to Ala-ud-din the next morning. On the following day at the crack of dawn, one hundred and fifty palanquins (covered cases in which royal ladies were carried in medieval times) left the fort and made their way towards Ala-ud-din's camps The palanquins stopped before the tent where king Ratan Singh was being held prisoner. Seeing that the palanquins had come from Chittor; and thinking that they had brought along with them his queen, King Ratan Singh was mortified. But to his surprise from the palanquins came out, not his queen and her women servants but fully armed soldiers, who quickly freed Ratan Singh and galloped away towards Chittor on horses grabbed from Alauddin's stables. Gora fought bravely during the skirmish and laid down his life while Badal was able to take the Rana safely to the fort. On hearing that his designs had been frustrated, the Sultan was furious and ordered his army to storm Chittor. But hard as they tried the Sultans army could not break into the fort. Then Alauddin decided to lay siege to the fort. The siege was a long drawn one and gradually supplies within the fort were depleted. Finally, king Ratan Singh gave orders that the Rajputs would open the gates and fight to finish with the besieging troops. On hearing of this decision, Padmini decided that with their men-folk going into the unequal struggle with the Sultan's army in which they were sure to perish, the women of Chittor had either to commit Jauhar (suicide) or face dishonour at the hands of the victorious enemy.[citation needed] Jauhar was preferred. A huge pyre was lit and, followed by their queen, the women of Chittor jumped into the flames and deceived Alauddin's army waiting outside. With their womenfolk dead, the men of Chittor had nothing to live for. They decided to perform Saka. Each soldier got dressed in kesariya robes and turbans. They charged out of the fort and fought on furiously with the vastly powerful array of the Sultan, until all of them perished. After his victory, the sultan's troops entered the fort and were confronted with the ashes and burnt bones of the women.[citation needed] | ||
Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 19968 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 106.208.164.2 Rating: N/A |
http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/115/286859.ht ml?1429160276
keka link: fikileaks, | ||
Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 19967 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 106.208.164.2 Rating: N/A |
soo why are you objecting to rajputs.... If mughals themselves were nothing, but we are treating them as specials, why not treat even rajputs who probably were nothing but of same level of nothing as thAt of mughals??? Innallu mughals okkallane pogidithe leni noppi why suddenly now???? Iddaru donde anukunte, why not rajputs if mughals are fine??? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 6884 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.128.168 Rating: N/A |
Adhe ga nenu cheppindhi useless, why not a road for Hemu ani, if there can be roads for Akbar and Aurangzeb etc. | ||
Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 19966 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 106.208.164.2 Rating: N/A |
aaaa roju clear gane post chesaaru.... Marchipoyuntaaru just like Howe we are forgetting our great past..... Lol keka link: fikileaks, | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 6883 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.128.168 Rating: N/A |
How come i missed this....btw i never equated Netaji to Bhagat Singh...
Yedho, mee abhimanam..just provoking debate anthe... | ||
Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 19965 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 106.208.164.2 Rating: |
why.... Where were the great mughal saviours when British tooK over.... Veellu em peekaru Mari??? Lol keka link: fikileaks, | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 6882 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.128.168 Rating: N/A |
Apart from what Redclaw said, final ga cheppalante, as i have said in bold below, Hinduims survived because of its religion itself, not because of any kings. Most of them from Rajputs to down south failed us. Of course that does not mean, that you will name roads for Akbar and Aurangzeb in Delhi and not Hemu. That is a different debate. | ||
Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 19964 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 106.208.164.2 Rating: N/A |
eeee Buffy annai lines baaguntai.... Netaji is hyped up, rajputs are over hyped.... Super..... Oka aanimuthyam..... What Netaji did was nothing and he's just as good as bhagat Singh.... Nothing more..... Deeniki mental_s reply, to equate Netaji with bhagat is to equate iPhone app to iPhone lol..... keka link: fikileaks, | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 11105 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 50.164.157.158 Rating: |
kodhi varaku correct ye le. khilji gadu thopu fighter undey. standard practice. okatrendu nijal cheppu, oka padhi abadhal odulu. neellalo paalu = paalu. | ||
Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 19963 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 106.208.164.2 Rating: N/A |
thittaku.... Sickulars ki aaaa scroll is the book, the bible, the Qur'an and Gita, wait, strike off the last part.... That last book doesn't deserve a place in that list, either way..... keka link: fikileaks, | ||
Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 19962 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 106.208.164.2 Rating: |
First, distort history for few decades , then say historians don't say so..... Systematic brain wash.... Nehru is a great noble soul, aurangazeb was a secular peace loving ruler and tippu sultan the great deserves to be grand father of nation...... Every one else are worthless pieces of , our useless imagination...... this is the way to create history and imbibe it.... Nerchukondayya..... keka link: fikileaks, | ||
111 Hero Username: 111 Post Number: 10717 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 173.161.53.241 Rating: N/A |
evadee item : chala gems rasadu "Alauddin Khilji, one of the finest generals in Indiaâs military history, certainly required no treachery to subdue Chittor. ".. is this against BJP because it is in power now.. | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 11104 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 50.164.157.158 Rating: |
From the mighty pen of Girish Shahane, the historian of troll.in, some more gems - Rani Padmini is an imagination of Hindutva loonies. She never existed. - on Dec 31, 2014 - prithviraj chauhan was defeated and executed by Ghuri. By May, 2015, Chauhan 'bolted from the battle', was captured and executed by Ghuri. - all claims of a 5000 yr old civilization is BS. nothing of worth happened before 500 BC. and more wisdom from http://scroll.in/article/698006/rani-padmini-and-four-other- hindutva-history-myths-exploded | ||
Redclaw777 Side Hero Username: Redclaw777 Post Number: 2721 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 49.206.63.54 Rating: |
Tilak....don't take Buffy in the wrong sense....he is neither glorifying Turk invaders nor demeaning Rajputs or other dynasties. It is just anguish & frustration that given our population/history/resources & strength, we as country were too great and powerful to allow these invaders attack at will and loot us. It I something like a single wild dog came and conquered an elephant just because it had sharp teeth and bit the elephants tail. I've given some articles abt why we failed....but frankly those reasons are not good enough over long term where we shud hav learnt from our mistakes. It was failure of not just Rajputs who were our first line of defence but also the southern and northern kingdoms who were oblivious of impending dangers and decided to ignore them till it was too late. Except a few great kings and dynasties, we surrendered meekly and allowed ourselves to be ruled which today has significantly impacted our destiny as a country. While there are many things we can be proud of, there is nothing wrong in accepting our biggest blunders which haunt us to date and made Turks and Europeans much powerful than they were ever supposed to be. | ||
Jai_ycp Junior Artist Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 622 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 108.31.178.233 Rating: N/A |
Filmbuff, confuse cheyyakunda bottom line pettu. do you think rajputs are as weak as rest of india especially south or weaker then the south. guddi lo mella laga they are better among us ani janalu opinion. what was your opinion. the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP) http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/115/288306.html?1430496472 http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/115/288311.html?1430498160 the story of TDP in 2014 (T) http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/115/288897.html?1431096876 | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 11103 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 50.164.157.158 Rating: |
2912 A.D; in the land of Kafiristan, once called India. - Loony historians claims that the old country called India defeated Pakistan in successive wars. It's been proven without doubt that the Indian army suffered ignominious defeat to the Chinese in 1962. To then claim that the same army won wars against Pakistan, a country driven by far more courageous army men inspired by Allah, ahmad-il-ullah and supported by the super power USA, is ridiculous. Hindutva loonies claim that India defeated Pakistan not in one war in 1965 but again in 1971 and then again after some years in 1998. Several newspaper articles have been doctored to support this claim. As can be seen today from the fact that this so-called old nation no longer exists, all such claims can be brushed aside as rubbish. | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 6881 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.128.168 Rating: N/A |
Show the literature for this, from what i read they ruled for around 250 years at best of which a large part was as feudal lords under the Chalukyas. They were independent rules for just over 100 years and their kingdom not that large, they ruled over a large part of AP for a very brief time, mostly it was only a few districts in present day Unified AP. If all this is enough for your self esteem, i can't help it. | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28626 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
unfortunately. celebrate a little of Rana Pratap seems to you like beating your chest, when is one of your few heroes! Matter of perspective! Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 6880 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.128.168 Rating: |
Obviously i do. We were ruled for over 1000 years by outsiders - i don't want to take pride and beat my chest over minor wins, period. | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28625 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
South wasnt proactive in planning for the future? Had they been, they would have reached out and lead the fight? Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28624 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
Sorry to say. But you do seem to suffer low self-esteem. Pardon me for saying that. Kakateeyas ruled for around 200 years in their peak and around 400 years in total. The kingdom, at its top, extended from MP to TN and KA, including parts of MH, TS and AP! Cholas, Chalukyas, Kakateeyas, Hoyasalas, Vijayanagaras - all are our heroes! Celebrate that. Atleast, be grateful, that we werent swept off like ppl from Karachi, Kabul, Lahore and Multan. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 6878 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.128.168 Rating: N/A |
Bagane untadhi. Failure ekkadaina failure ye kadha...but by the time Mughals came down south, they had already struck nice sweetheart deals with many of the minor kingdoms up north and beefed up their armies, resources...we did not stand a chance. | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28623 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
History lo jarigina daaniki ee jealousy and childish bravado enti? what separate identity we had, when our destinies were joint? infact, if ppl from South failed in not seeing a chance to lead the pack of armies and safeguard Indian borders (giving back in conjecture) ante ela untundi? Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 6877 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.128.168 Rating: N/A |
Ikkada Kakatiyas gurinchi evadu Sankalu guddhukuntunnado, i don't even know what the hell they ruled over...they are minor chieftains in larger scheme of things..edho mana vallu movies theesukovatame...oka Cholas, Chalukyas ante oka andam, chandam - international ga expand ayyaru, baga reach undhi...
Read that as their army primarily, not their entire kingdom.. | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28621 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
Hypothetical conjecture. When you are fair to Mughals, you are brutally unfair to truth and history of suppressed people! Easily said. Will you say the same about Kakatiyas? Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Asdf Side Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 7945 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.109.165.236 Rating: N/A |
what about common public? why would i care about the army of invaders, and not worry about my own kind? | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 6875 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.128.168 Rating: N/A |
Yes, same in every race. That is what i am driving at. The Rajputs were located serendipitiously across the Western borders having to face the invaders. But to conflate serendipitous location with courage is stretching things. If in the South we had to fight a lot battles, we would have tons of folklore and myths. After going through the many posts i still can't fathom how people feel that without the Rajputs or other warrior clans, India would have fallen apart. Vallu undi emi uddharincharu. We were anyway ruled by the Mughals for over 700 years. So i am confused what folks are talking about. That HINDUISM HAS SURVIVED IS BECAUSE OF HINDUISM (HOWEVER TAUTOLOGICAL THAT MAY SOUND) and not because we were supposedly protected by some of our warrior minor-kings, who by the way, did not win much. They fought some fool hardy battles, like kids rushing headlong into a war, and then when realised that they are not going to win, became vassals under the Mughals and preserved their kingdoms.
To be fair to the Mughal kings, they did not subject their kingdoms and armies to deprivation. Mana kings ki padi dochukovatam thappithe (just like our politicians) armies ni proper ga feed cheyatam, weaponry, gear etc lanti undavu. (same repeated 1000 years later when Nehru took us to fight China without proper cold weather shoes).
Same here, that is what i don't get the folks here. At first we could have said they we were not as battle hardened as the Turks/ Afghans, but the same excuse can't be given each time Ghazni or Ghori attacked. Learning from enemy and failures lantivi levu. In any modern meritocracy, we would measure peformance against outcomes and i don't see any evidence of that from the many wars that the Rajputs fought. They were more foolhardy than brave. You don't go back to your boss saying that you worked late nights, computer crash ayyindhi, strategy was not right. Finally they failed anthe. | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28615 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: N/A |
yes .. Rajputs kante Mughals muddhu kada 2015 lo kuda .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28614 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: N/A |
perfectly put. Initial post ki 11 ppl 5 stars vesaru and my reply post got 3 single stars .. just cause Rajputs were belittled, and he assumed with any proof or pattern there "may be" greater heroes in South! Thats the mentality that always came to bite India in its back for millenia. Not much changed. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
111 Hero Username: 111 Post Number: 10708 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 216.251.53.20 Rating: N/A |
No , it was Allauddin Khiji Vs Rani Padmini of Mewar..see here.. On 28 January 1303 Alauddin started for Mewar, a powerful kingdom of north-west India. According to legend, Alauddin heard of the unparalleled beauty of Rani Padmini, wife of Ratan Singh. He went to Chittor with an intention to siege the fort and went in by saying that he wanted to see the Rani. This of course was an act of shame for a Hindu king, but Ratan Singh gave in. He persuaded his wife to let the sultan see her. She gave her consent and allowed Alauddin see her reflection in a mirror. While all this was going on his men secretly surveyed the inside of the fort. On seeing the beauty of the queen Alauddin was determined to get her for his harem. On his return to Delhi he got Ratan Singh in accompanying him. he used this opportunity and kidnapped him... Ratan Singh pedda VP gaadi laaga unnadu..wife ni chupinchamante , fort loki teesukelli chupinchadu anta.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alauddin_Khilji elantivi chadivinappudu chala bloood boil avutundhi..chass... | ||
Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 17405 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 73.7.40.10 Rating: N/A |
time washte article as far as im concerned...our history books do not tell a lot of stuff,but definetly what the author was seeing. I cant take the article seriously if the author is implicitly is saying our history books(specifically taking school books) are accurate, and based his research on such books. between, to have an argument in a black and white sense on such topics is futile. we all will find the shades that we would like to see. Rajputs lo bokulu leka poledhu... chaaku lu leka poledhu. | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5667 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222 Rating: N/A |
Indian Kings defeat ki inkoka main reason lack of good Cavalary and Horses Too much dependent on Elephants Middle east and Afghan armies ki Horse valla baaga edge vochindi Also Sharp shooter chala mandi undevaru When Hemu was about to destroy Akbar's army and Akbhar and Baram khan were waiting at the end of army to escape to Afghan in case of defeat, was shot by sharp arrow shooter in the eye and that changed the course of History | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 17031 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.122.2 Rating: N/A |
ledu..kings unna kooda whole authority tho unna valu chala takkuva..and there were numerous kingdoms..like every district we have today was madeup of 2-3 samantha rajus etc.. just to give an example.. and if u see our stories most of them r vennupotu stories..so basic ga lack of unity okati ayithe sontha vala kanna bayatodini nammatam inkoti..also valatho alliances tho defeat other local kingdoms.. aa traces ippatiki kanipisthayi mana society n rulerslo..idhi democracy and yuddhalu levu kabatti idhi appeasement kindhaki turn ayyindhi..sontha culture ni gudipi appeasement cheyatam etc.. | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5666 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222 Rating: N/A |
Nuvu cheppina version kooda baseless anukoachu ga... Whay would afghan believe unncessarly that Prithvi killed Ghori | ||
Saint Legend Username: Saint Post Number: 51315 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132 Rating: N/A |
ippudu democracy..evadi istam vachinattu vaadu vagochu...appatlo democracy ekkada vundi? king gaani istam kada? eduru thirigithe vetu eyyatame gaa? lack of unity ki, secularism ki nuvvu confuse avuthunnav!! ee licking anedhi gandhi era nunchi start ayyndi... | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 17030 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.122.2 Rating: |
ya idhi ayyuntundhi..
nijamga annai..by the time babur entered india we(or atleast north india) became a degenerated race from constant wars and sufferings..baburnama lo rasthadu babur gadu endi eeda janam intha malnutritioned unnaru ani.. blood boil avutundhi kaani emi chestham..khandistham.. not to divert thread..but mana desamlo unna sickular society/leaders ni choosthe naak artham avutundhi y mana kingslo unity ledho,..i mean we r nothing but reflection of past..blood lone undi sickularism.. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 37592 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.56.36.136 Rating: N/A |
The circle of life..anduke ivvala..chunni vs chia lafda lo even out avuthundi.. | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 17029 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.122.2 Rating: N/A |
ghori gadu first naikidevi meedha attack cheyataniki vasthunapudu..ame rajput kingdoms ni help adugutundhi..as ususal evadu respond avvadu.. later amene solo ga kondhari trusted allies tho warlo digi ghori gadini tarumutundhi.. appudu ghori gaadu route marchi northwest side elthadu..rajputs galu vala goyyi vale tavvukunattu ayyindhi..mundhare support ichi ghori gadini pandabettesi unte vere la undedhi.. | ||
Redclaw777 Side Hero Username: Redclaw777 Post Number: 2720 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 49.206.63.54 Rating: N/A |
This is more or less documented brother...after Prithviraj, there was literally no opposition to Ghori. Tirigi attack chese scene unte ila endhuku vuntaam? We were just defenders. And when they say Ghori invaded so many times, it need not be him personally.....he had many commanders who wud carry out invasions to loot rest of the country. Anagodadhu kaani, we were literally r@ped & looted by Ghori & Ghazni....and our lazy ass hundreds of Rajas cudnt do a shit a pout it! | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 17028 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.122.2 Rating: N/A |
asalu ghori 18times danda yathra also hard to believe..no sane soul will allow a perston to attack so many times.. mana meedha anni sarlu attack chesthe..reverselo maname plan chesi attack chesthamu..thats human intuition to do that.. folklorelo poets exaggerate chesi rasina versions ivi anukuntuna which kinda became famous with masses.. | ||
Hadoop Junior Artist Username: Hadoop Post Number: 925 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 144.160.130.94 Rating: N/A |
sati ante? | ||
Hadoop Junior Artist Username: Hadoop Post Number: 924 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 144.160.130.94 Rating: N/A |
nope Jauhar[edit] Maharani Samyukta, along with her ladies, committed Jauhar and ended their lives instead of surrendering to the Afghan invaders. | ||
Redclaw777 Side Hero Username: Redclaw777 Post Number: 2719 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 49.206.63.54 Rating: N/A |
Tht is a just a baseless rumour/folklore tht Prithviraj killed Ghori. It never happened. Ghori actually got assassinated by his own rebel clans. Instead of blaming themselves, they just vented out their frustration that Prithviraj came back from the dead to kill him. There is absolutely no basis or evidence to it. Prithviraj was killed much before. And it was documented that Ghori travelled back later and lived many years. | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 17027 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.122.2 Rating: N/A |
folklore valla ayyundachu....
adhi telusu..kaani aa story namma buddhi avvadhu antuna..im not ssaying it is false..its hard to belive antuna anthe.. blind avuthe..kings courtlo..sabdham batti banam esi champatam etc..hard to belive.. | ||
Redclaw777 Side Hero Username: Redclaw777 Post Number: 2718 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 49.206.63.54 Rating: N/A |
For those interested, more articles on the same: http://www.historydiscussion.net/history-of-india/causes-of- the-success-of-the-turks-against-the-rajput/2644 http://www.preservearticles.com/2012031026084/causes-of-musl im-success-and-rajput-failure-in-india.html | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5665 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222 Rating: N/A |
No Rani Smayuktha.... sacrificied herslef in Sati by the time Gori arrived | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5664 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222 Rating: N/A |
Story endivayya... Afghan locals abuse the Prithvi tomb even today stating that he killed Ghori 900 years ago... | ||
Saint Legend Username: Saint Post Number: 51310 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132 Rating: N/A |
then why in afgan, muslims are still stamping on pruthvi tomb? | ||
Saint Legend Username: Saint Post Number: 51309 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132 Rating: N/A |
pruthvi wife beautiful samyuktha meedunna lust reason anta kada...ghori multiple times dandayatralu seyyataniki... also pruthvi ni capture chesaka, chetthoo prithvi balls peekesi, samyuktha ni multiple times rape sesadu anta... | ||
Hadoop Junior Artist Username: Hadoop Post Number: 923 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 144.160.130.94 Rating: N/A |
asalu gori ni anni tims defeat chesi..vadileyatam pedda tappu | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 17025 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.122.2 Rating: N/A |
aa story, hard to believe bhayya... | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5663 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222 Rating: N/A |
Rajputs ki Unity Ledu. Battle Hardened Gori enni ssarlu odipoyadu Deafts and vicotry are common Kaani the Way Prithvi Killed Gori after being blinded is superb And the Proof is, Still in Afghan Prithvi is Grave is abused for this reason | ||
Redclaw777 Side Hero Username: Redclaw777 Post Number: 2717 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 49.206.63.54 Rating: |
Buffy.....after readin the article....one thing was clear - Rajputs only had one plan - Attack!! Body ekkuva brain takkuva a type category manollu. But on a more serious note.....there are many more reasons for these debacles: 1. Caste system in India had already raised it's ugly head by then which had lead to loads of egos between rulers, general public who were never united on a larger, strategic scale. 2. There were very few Emperors who ruled India with total authority. Even if they managed to do it, like Emperor Ashoka, it just lasted his lifetime but never as a dynasty. Except force, there was nothing binding Indians those days with their various languages & cultures hereby leaving India bereft of a strong leadership. 3. All the Invaders from Central Asia & later Europeans were much more battle hardened than our troops. They actively went out of their countries to conquer & rule probably because they had more hunger than our rich country. This in turn gave them better exposure to different armies, battles, strategies & technologies. Once they invaded India, they found that we were the Dodos. Individually strong and rich princely states but never United nor had the right minds to win battles. 4. Invariably most of these invaders came in from the west, where Rajputs were the first line of defence. Hereby they had to put up some resistance to protect their turfs. But then again, as mentioned in the article, they lacked unity and battle strategies. Prithvi Raj Chauhan was a great warrior who wud hav never lost to Ghouri had a few other Rajput Kingdoms answered his call in the 2nd battle. And no, Prithviraj never killed Ghori....he was assassinated brutally after being blinded by Ghori. Ghori died much later in Central Asia. It was almost like all they had to do was step in with a ruthless approach and they wud eventually conquer us barring a few strong rulers in the west. Most of the time, India was a rich country with generally peace loving people who were never blood lusted for war. I remember getting emotional after reading our Text books about Ghori & Ghazni raids again & again & again. We as a country definitely deserved much better. | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 17024 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.122.2 Rating: |
Naikidevi (Daughter Of Shivchitta Permadi - Kadam King Of Goa) - Battle of Kayadara (Gujarat), 1178 - Defeat of Muhammed Ghori The Battle of Gujarat or Kayadara (1178) was a defeat suffered by Muhammad of Ghur during his first campaign against a Hindu ruler in India. Muhammad's first campaign had been against the Muslim rulers of Multan in 1175 and had ended in victory. In 1178 he turned south, and led his army from Multan to Uch and then across the desert towards the Gujarat capital of Anhilwara (modern Patan). Gujarat was ruled by the young Raja Bhimdev II (ruled 1178-1241), a member of the Solanki dynasty (one of several Chalukya dynasties), although the age of the Raja meant that the army was commanded by his mother Naikidevi. Muhammad's army had suffered greatly during the march across the desert, and Naikidevi inflicted a major defeat on him at the village of Kayadra (near to Mount Abu, about forty miles to the north-east of Anhilwara). The invading army suffered heavy casualties during the battle, and also in the retreat back across the desert to Multan. Muhammad of Ghur never returned to Gujarat. An army led by Qutb ud-din Aibak, his deputy in India, invaded in c.1195-97 and plundered the capital, but then returned to Delhi. Gujarat wasn't annexed by the Sultanate of Delhi until 1297. Kuramdevi Daughter of Naikidevi and Defeat of Qutb-ud-din Aibak(Muhammad Ghori's General) Sometime in the 1170s, the young princess Kuramdevi (she could not have been much over 13 years of age, the age considered maturity at the time), became wife of Samar Singh Deva, the rawal of Chittorgarh. Samar Singh was a Chauhan Rajput, a descendant of the heroes who had captured Chittorgarh, probably the most famous fortress in all India, sometime in the middle of the 12th century.Samar Singh her Husband got killed in the 2nd Battle Of Tarain fought by Prithiviraj Chauhan against Muhammad Ghori. Kuramdevi would eventually follow her husband, but first she had unfinished business to tend to. She raises an army to avenge and defeat Qutb-ud-din Aibak who was behind her husbands death. ---- As Per Prithviraj Raso The two forces met near the old Amber fort, and the Rajputs won. At the head of her army, Kuramdevi drove deep into the Muslim ranks, deep enough for her to confront the Muslim general himself and to engage him in a personal duel during which she managed to bury her sword deep into his flesh, wounding him so severely that he tumbled from the saddle. In alarm his attendants carried him away. Seeing him fall, seeing his body thus carried from the fight and, consequently, believing him dead, others in the Muslim ranks near the site gave way to panic. The panic spread, and soon Qtub-ud-din's entire army was in full flight. Kuramdevi believed she had killed Qtub-ud-din. The battle thus ended, she regrouped her army and led it back south. Returning to Chittorgarh, she mounted the pyre and became sati. | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5661 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222 Rating: |
Prithviraj defeated ghuri many times before he was defeated be ghuri. However ghuri took his eyes out as he was looking straight into ghuri 's eyes. Prithviraj' s royal poet chhand darbai was also there with him in jail. One day competition of archery was arranged. In spite of being blind prithviraj participated. Everyone laughed at him. He asked ghuri to order him to shoot because only a king can order other king. Ghuri ordered him to shoot. Next thing happened was unbelievable. Chhand Darbai sang following shlok.... "char bans chaubis gaj, anguli astha praman Ta uper hai Sultan, mat chuko Chauhan" Meaning that 4 bamboo length, 24 yard, and at the height of 8 fingers Sultan is seating, shoot him and don't miss now. With the help of this shlok prithviraj judged location and shot ghuri!!!! Hence he can be called as a superhero. | ||
111 Hero Username: 111 Post Number: 10707 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 216.251.53.20 Rating: N/A |
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111 Hero Username: 111 Post Number: 10706 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 216.251.53.20 Rating: N/A |
naaku telisina sotry emiti ante.. prithviraj was good at shabdabhedhi ban [sound vini arrows veyyatam]. Ghori capture chesi pattukelli , prithvi kallu peekesi , shabdbhedi banam veyyamantadu...ghori matladetappudu , aa sound ni batti banam tho ghori ni champuthadu ani... | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5660 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222 Rating: N/A |
Kaani Afghan lo both Ghori and Prithvi toms pakkane unnayi Looks like both killed each other as per thier version They abuse the Prithvi tomb even now becuase he killed Ghori | ||
111 Hero Username: 111 Post Number: 10705 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 216.251.53.20 Rating: N/A |
ee war time ki pruvdhi raj , samyukha ni marriage chesukontadu kadha mae father wish ki against , so her father was on opposite side antaru war lo....entha varaku nijamo... but first time ghori odipothadu 1191 , with in a year he attacked again and won it... | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5659 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222 Rating: N/A |
Prithviraj grave in Afghanistanâ NEW DELHI: While the legendary Rajput king Prithviraj Chauhan is a hero in India, his âgraveâ in Afghanistan is visited by the locals even today to vent their anger for killing Muhammed Ghori, 900 years ago says a new book. The book âArms and Armour: Traditional Weapons of Indiaâ by E Jaiwant Paul says on the outskirts of Ghazni are two domed tombs. The larger was of Ghori and few meters away was a second smaller tomb of Prithviraj Chauhan. âIn the centre of the second tomb was a bare patch of earth where the actual grave should have been. Hanging over this spot from the top of the dome is a long, thick rope ending in a knot at shoulder height. Local visitors would grab hold of this knot in one hand and stamp vigorously and repeatedly with one foot on the bare patch in the centre of the tomb,â says Paul, a weapons collector. Paul, who saw this on his visit to Afghanistan says on seeking an explanation, he found that the Afghans still stamped on his grave because Prithviraj killed Ghori, 900 years ago, a PTI report said on Sunady. sana | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5658 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222 Rating: N/A |
Legacy It is an Afghan custom to vent anger by stamping on the grave of Chauhan because according to them Prithviraj had killed Ghori.[6][7] Hammir Dev Chauhan, the fifth desecendant of Prithviraj Chauhan ruled over Ranthambore. After his defeat in 1301 by Alauddin Khilji, his direct descendants ruled over Bhaddaiyan Raj and Mainpuri.[8][9] Folklore Prithviraj Raso, a folkloric poem written by Chand Bardai, says that the death of Ghori (also referred to as Mu'izz al-Din Muhammad) was caused by Prithviraj with the help of Chadravardai and that afterwards they killed each other,[10] which is not borne out by historical documents.[11] | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28613 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
repeated ga jarigina .. face cheyyadam vere .. anjaneyulu cinema lo cheppinattu .. "naa lantodini choodatam veru .. nannu choodatam veru .." Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
111 Hero Username: 111 Post Number: 10703 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 216.251.53.20 Rating: N/A |
i heard many versions of it.. 1. when i was child there was on teleserial in DD : when war was happening ,alexander GF meet Porus and request him not to kill alexander..where alex capture and puros and release him later. 2. other stories , puros was defeated.. 3. stalemate.. while returning back alex was dead/killed by his own men ani cheptharu...because of internal issues. | ||
Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 19491 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.151.251.178 Rating: |
Assalke wars lo pedda presence leni desam...ippudu rajputs show off ante etla sachedi... i personally dont care about what in history. naa book lo Maharana is warrior #1 .. anthe final. | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28612 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
absolutely thats the reason why we suffered foreign rule for around 1200 years .. asalu oka Ghori gadi chetilo odipoye badulu .. oka 5-6 kings kalsi vadini odinchachu anna strategy kuda achieve cheyyalekapovadam biggest failure .. Different versions. Konnitlo direct ga odinchadu antaru .. konnitlo stalemate but made peace and while going back remaining armies fell to disease .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
111 Hero Username: 111 Post Number: 10702 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 216.251.53.20 Rating: N/A |
kaani evi repeated ga jarigayi...ekkada nerchukonnadhi takkuva , starting from privdhi raj in 1192 to rana pratap in 1976...... sivaji was an exception , he has some of action for each war and won many against mughals.. | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5656 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222 Rating: N/A |
It was a stalemate, in which Alex was severely injured and on his way back dies with lots of complications | ||
Asdf Side Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 7939 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: N/A |
porus lantodu inkodu vundunte bagundedi. alexander ni defeat chesaada leka it was stalemate>? | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5655 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222 Rating: N/A |
Our Kings are used for certain rules and ethics in war Due to that they left many barbarian Muslim invaders after defeating , later dies in their hands But these barbarians have no rules and ethics just win the war by hook or crook Also there was no unity among the kings of India nor Bigger kingdoms to counter So foreign invaders work became easy Ashoka is responsible for the decline of war fare efficiency in India , being a emperor he neglected self defence area in the name of peace | ||
Last_avataar Side Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 5654 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 12.10.219.222 Rating: N/A |
Muslim invasion was fiercely stopped by Rajputs, Japts, Sikhs, Maratas etc By means of wars, alliances, defeats, victories, ceasefires , back stabbings etc Not just Mughuls any great empire, has to face the impact of rebellion. No emperor could control an area beyond his reach Depp south rakunda political ga addukunnadi Maratas, Vinjayanagar empire and other decaan muslim kings | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28611 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: N/A |
no Indian king had any clue about the barbarism of these Turkish armies for the first few times bro until they faced the first time .. Shivaji Maharaj kuda initial ga anukunna success raledu .. then he started using guerrilla tactics and evolved to use the rapid shock and awe technique .. US army during ww-2 was very well trained, professionally organized, ready for war .. yet Pearl Harbor lo chaavu debba tinnaru .. thats how it is .. when you do not have any clue about the will of the enemy .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
111 Hero Username: 111 Post Number: 10700 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 216.251.53.20 Rating: N/A |
kakatiya pratapa Rudrudi ni pattukondhi mughals ye kadha...they captured and while taking him to Delhi , he attempted suicide and died in between... even initial Hyderbad rulers also from mughals assistants only , later they declared their own.. | ||
111 Hero Username: 111 Post Number: 10699 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 216.251.53.20 Rating: N/A |
more than unity , plan of execution sarigga leka povatam..Pridhiraj and Rana Sangramsingh has 2,3 times more soldiers than Gohri and Babur , but they lost it.. article also says same..they didn't have proper plan of execution... see Gohri lost first time , with in a year he attacked again and won it.. | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28609 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: N/A |
No dispute in agreeing to that annai. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 12430 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.161.160.10 Rating: |
i am not making them less naa grievance is clear.. they did not have good leaders... had rajputana been a single kingdom - they would have been aggressors.. for a long time our culture survived because hindu-kush has been ruled by big rulers like harshavardhana etc | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28608 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: N/A |
LOL .. evaru babu prati post ki single estunnaru .. evaro chaala strong haters unnare .. no problems .. read the history of Maharana Pratap - http://www.chittorgarh.com/maharana-pratap.asp Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Time_waste Comedian Username: Time_waste Post Number: 1324 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 38.96.203.34 Rating: |
vaammo...darunam saami meeru...edhoo chadivesi mari theesi thenkeshtunnaru...darunam... | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28607 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
Ebn Baá¹á¹uá¹a sees the origin of the name Hindu Kush (Hindu-killer) in the fact that numerous Hindu slaves fell victim to the dangers of the unknown world of the high mountain range while crossing the pass on their way from India to Turkestan. http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/hindu-kush Iran's encyclopedia quoting "the great Arab" traveler-historian .. True history will never be able to count all the sacrifices made! Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 19488 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.151.251.178 Rating: N/A |
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Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28605 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
"Hindu Kush" mountains gurinchi chadavandi .. the very first time I read .. kallallo neellu tirigayi naaku .. janam lives, families, societies, communities, kingdoms tho sacrifice chesthe comedy cheyyadam/takkuva chesi matladatam .. hurts .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Asdf Side Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 7933 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: N/A |
true. desam tappithe antha masi | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 37587 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.55.80 Rating: N/A |
same here.. | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28603 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
obviously. Btw, the amount of destruction that happened in entire north is beyond imagination. Denemma, mamoolu suffering kaadu asalu .. okko sari surprising anipistundi, how Hindu culture still survived, looking at specially looking at Iran, Afghan and Pak regions .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28602 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
asalu mughals lekke veru .. important revenue cities ni tappa .. chinna towns and villages lo mughals ki pattu em ledu .. in that sense .. they never even ventured to rule at grass roots level .. that is all outsourced to local submissive clans with the instructions about religion and taxes .. anduke they could sustain .. along with using marriages for expansion of kingdom .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Asdf Side Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 7929 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: N/A |
agreed. including geography urimi movie soose varaku vasco gari saritra teliyani stage lo vunnaam. jodha adkbar movie soosi akbar romantic fella ane stage bhi. eti sestaam | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28601 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
exactly. Thats my point. We dont understand how lucky we in the South were. 100s of years paatu .. vallani beyond Vindhyas raakunda (not exactly the aim of those people), north lo ne busy ga uncharu by constantly fighting hard and never letting them consolidate on their gains .. else, think about it .. we are no bigger marshal race than Sikhs to hold on to our kingdoms. no .. nenu entire credit Rajputs ki ivvatledu .. Marathas, Gujarati Solankis, Rajput, Punjabi Sikhs, Dogras .. everyone played their part. Aa western border antha gatti ga nilabadindi kabatti we (in South) sustained the weakened Islamic armies anedi naa point .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 17023 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.122.2 Rating: N/A |
as a whole rajput clan ante buss ayyundachu kaani...prthvi raj chauhan, maharana pratap keka kadha?? mana vistory bookslo maharana pratap ee kaadu..inka chala mandhi perlu kooda lev.. for ex naiki devi..guj queen.ghori gadu first indialo enter avvataniki maha-guj region nundi try sethe.ghori gadini lagethinchindhi..taruvatha adu malli atu side raakunda regroup ayyi rajasthan ni tagulkunad.. | ||
Asdf Side Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 7927 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: N/A |
appatike sagam paina sainyam pothundi kada bhayya initial war lo. sare lets think rajputs stopped them. mughals anni generations vunnaa kooda south ni capture cheyaledu enduku mari? certainly rajuputs could not have stopped. they were calculative anukuntunna | ||
Dreamcatcher Side Hero Username: Dreamcatcher Post Number: 7353 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68 Rating: N/A |
History demundi vayya, winner always gets to write it the way they want it...can US really put the atrocities sited in this article in their history? Simply they destroyed the evidence. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/government-elections -politics/secrets-politics-and-torture/why-you-never-saw-the -cias-interrogation-tapes/ | ||
Asdf Side Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 7926 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: N/A |
raju garu initial war ayye lopu sagam sainyam pothundi. inka invaders akkade aagipothaaru kada. mughals lanti vallu realized better to establish themselves for the long run. pacts cheskuni or light tiskuni , they did not try beyond their capacity imo | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28599 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
Himalayas/deserts/mighty sindhu river daati vachina armies ki .. Aravalis/Vindhyas oka lekka na annai? Remember South lo kuda Arcot Raju, Tippu Sultan, Bahmanis, Nizams .. chala mandi settle ayyi arachakaalu chesaru .. wasnt really such a big deal! Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 37585 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.55.80 Rating: N/A |
sustain seyyakondane ..anni 100s of years ruling undinda .. anyways..history is a cycle...inko 50 years middle east lo malla matti dibbalu thappa manushulu migile laa leru..the rate at which self destruction is going on | ||
Dreamcatcher Side Hero Username: Dreamcatcher Post Number: 7352 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68 Rating: N/A |
aa teesesam...meeru evvari script follow avutunnaar? SSR aa, Surender Reddy aa, or Puri aa...septhay, memu kooda follow ayipotaam. | ||
Asdf Side Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 7924 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: N/A |
idi agreed. kakapothe our geography played its part. invading armies could not sustain that far. | ||
Asdf Side Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 7923 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: N/A |
gandhi garu motta modati adarsh liberal anukunta | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28598 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
If they did and sikhs did not hold onto the western borders and fought for 100s of years, we would have been swept off like any other race and have been conversing today in Persian/Arabic! Yes, whatever their success/failures are - they did protect us by taking the brunt directly. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Asdf Side Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 7922 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: N/A |
idi kooda yaalid point. nothing can beat this. akbar the great laaga inko raju ni great ante pedda lolli | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 12429 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.159.64.10 Rating: N/A |
yes - I meant the original horde.. Genghis or Kublai hordes vachi vuntey india vundedi kaadu | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28597 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
Agreed. Main ga vallallo vallu kottukovadam ekkuva .. okadi venakala inkodu gothulu tavvadam etc .. aa chinna Rajasthan state lo more than 100 kingdoms ki vidipoyarante .. tells how they were unorganized .. kaani Rajputs lo kuda Maharana Pratap was 100 levels above the rest of them! Plz read and compare him with Abkar, even then he stands out. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 6874 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.132.230 Rating: N/A |
In fact, the Turks too are Mongols. When the Mongols attacked Asia Minor, they established foothold there and later on Mongols became convered to Mughal over time. Mongols could not directly attack us because of the Himalayas in between.
Hello, excuse me - manani kaapadara, ekkada, eppudu... | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 12428 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.159.64.10 Rating: N/A |
@Tilak the point is they are brave but not necessarily smart or not necessarily top leader material nor they had a good organization structure.. thats why the invaders always won | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28596 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
asalu India lo Mughals tho romance ni minchina historical fiction unda annai? Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Bunty717 Moderator Username: Bunty717 Post Number: 44354 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Hyd lo kudaa razzakars against ga fight cheyataniki veelanee techeru .. first info idi.. | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 6873 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.132.230 Rating: N/A |
Veedu chesina atrocities anni inni kaadhu. Entire North Kerala, Kasargod side areas ni convert chesadu forcible ga. He took over Hindu lands and handed them over to Muslims. And then when the Brits returned those lands to the Hindus, the Muslims went on a warpath around 1920 or so and did a mini-genocide of Hindus in that area. Malla vellaki Gandhi support. | ||
Scorpio Hero Username: Scorpio Post Number: 11792 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 174.61.228.127 Rating: N/A |
nee bhasha lo cheppali ante...migathaa sannasulu adi kuda cheyyaleka poyaaru...adi consistent gaa 2000 years... CBN is Good...Modi is Better...AK is the Best | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28595 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
naadi fetish endi? Ikkada anavasaram ga Rajputs ni takkuva chesi matladindi Filmbuff based on some article. The context is, when it comes to valor and patriotism - Maharana Pratap is way ahead of Akbar or Babur, yet he is kept aside while telling history to students. Daanni injustice kinda chusta and hence voice my opinion. manani kaapadina vallani takkuva chesi matladatam samskruthi matram kaane kaadu .. annai .. Rajputs main weakness is unity lekapovadam .. adi okkate pedda lopam naaku telisi .. ika chuttarikam antava .. I can say the same about Mughals .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 12427 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.159.64.10 Rating: N/A |
warriors veru.. rulers veru.. Like Vijayanagaram kings.. they kept muslim rulers at bay for a long time | ||
Gandhiguevara Legend Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 52904 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 192.231.133.254 Rating: N/A |
examples cheppu? | ||
Saint Legend Username: Saint Post Number: 51291 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132 Rating: |
saritra motham anthe kadaa annai..evadiki nachindi aadu rasukunadu..janam ade follow ipotha vunnaru | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 12426 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.159.64.10 Rating: N/A |
pedda yedava.. eedi babu hyder ali dagulbaaji gaadu | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 12425 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.159.64.10 Rating: N/A |
Santoshinchandi.. turks, afghans etc vachar.. aa original mongol horde vachi vuntey.. india vundedi kaadu.. there is some truth in the article... they are romanticized.. heros neverthe less but romanticized and over hyped | ||
Asdf Side Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 7920 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: N/A |
btw trippu sultan kooda edava ani , vadni voorke hype sestaar ani vinnaan. also, aurangzeb was not really that diff from other mughals. just good cop bad cop ani bhi..confirm seyandi historians | ||
Asdf Side Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 7919 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: N/A |
fact ye kada annai. lot of mughal and invaders tho chuttarikam kalipesi , kingdoms kaapadukunnaru kada basic ga mana bangaram manchidi aithe invaders ni tippi tippi kotte vallam | ||
Gandhiguevara Legend Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 52903 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 192.231.133.254 Rating: |
kikiki...response nee daggarnunde vasthundhi ani eggspet chesaaa...prize pattesaaa....aaa stars yesindhi nenu kaadhu gaani....neeku yee northie fetish endhi thammi...mana samskruthi...mana aunnathyam...haa yenti | ||
Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 28594 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.190.100 Rating: |
Perfect script .. you played to the galleries well .. stars kuda paddayi .. Maratha kurrod kuda .. he tried his best .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 6872 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.132.230 Rating: |
http://scroll.in/article/728636/what-our-textbooks-dont-tell -us-why-the-rajputs-failed-miserably-in-battle-for-centuries Correct ga cheppadu, i have always held that they were minor kings and later vassals. All this hype around their courage and fighting abilities is just TV Serial and Amar Chitra Katha bull crap. Maa jathi fighting jaathi, meesam melese jathi, countless battles lo vodipoyi, cut chesthe ladies ni sathi lo dimpe jaathi. Masquerating casteism and oppression of their subjects as bravery is silly. Edho veedhi godavallo fighting chesi gelichi, daniki thoda katte type. Yedho North Indian hype and thappithe, deeni kante South India lo brave warriors inka chala unde untaru. Theeyandra bandlu.. |
