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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 02:39 am:       

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 01:49 am:       

GST bill valla state ki loss unatayi. India too much central control
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 01:26 am:       


Lenin:

dedicated the second one to you


no thanks, what is yours is always yours! keep it! :-)
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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 01:14 am:       


Tilak:

I am really unsure about the first adjective!




that one is for me...I dedicated the second one to you, have it if u want
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 01:12 am:       


Lenin:

am a reasonable idiot


based on your posts .. I am really unsure about the first adjective!

Lenin:

earth shattering changes ivi GST, Land bill, Planning Commission ...1 year lo repercussions undava?


GST implement cheyyadaniki inka mechanism ee ledu .. inko 1 year paina padutundi implement cheyyadaniki .. taruvata nee istam ..
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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 01:09 am:       


Tilak:




earth shattering changes ivi GST, Land bill, Planning Commission ...1 year lo repercussions undava?

atleast steady line of graph anna maintain cheste I will concede it to u, am not expecting any thing bigger..am a reasonable idiot
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 01:07 am:       


Lenin:

let's take it from 1 year


give it 3 years .. 1 year lo transition ee complete ga avvadu .. what will you evaluate?
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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 01:02 am:       


Tilak:




let's take it from 1 year
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 01:02 am:       


Boston_baba:

ala undoddane kada, state power to taxation tagginchamantundi.




already non plan revenue ani konni states ki extra, konitiki takkuva veltadi ilanti measures tho ne...

even input subsidy will be a big question mark...How they will give input subsidy for a product? based on consumption or manufacturing ?

U pls check Canada man...there is direct taxation (ofcourse sevaral stupid consumption taxess are there)

uniform tax will do nothing for any body...products will be waiting at the borders of states to get approval , additional levies on imports in high manufacturing states


ur point of view is very authoritative man...that's not the way how a multi cultured country should work


there has to be give and take relation..not forceful acquisition
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:58 am:       


Lenin:

let's see how inflation will flare


sure .. chuddam .. would you want to give a time frame for that?
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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:56 am:       


Lenin:

won't u think they will take any precautionary measures to stay relevant...



human and natural resources valla, competetive adv ravali/undali, not with these artificial measures by states.
ala undoddane kada, state power to taxation tagginchamantundi.

Lenin:

India is not for some bloody investors man.



thats exactly why, we dont want local taxation and freedom to tax..
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece
1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP.
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:52 am:       


Boston_baba:




states that are going to loose because of this GST are highly industrial...

won't u think they will take any precautionary measures to stay relevant...

guddi lo mella entante AP ki koncham benefit ani santhoshinchatame

long run lo GST valla differences peragatam tappa em undadu..

India is not for some bloody investors man...why do u want to run a country like provident fund organization?
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:37 am:       


Lenin:

not only centralization man...it will increase the price of goods



how yaa..
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece
1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP.
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:36 am:       


Tilak:




VAT on individual items we have opposed I don't think we were nt against the whole concept

VAT might be opposed in another contest, where it will see loss of jobs and we demanded an upskilling program for employees

meeru nen ikkade untam...edaki pom

let's see how inflation will flare
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:31 am:       

Asalu manam support chesina bills emaina unnaya? BJP govt ye economic bill technia oppose cheyyadame ga mana pani .. LOL

VAT was working well aa? mari appatlo commies VAT ni enduku oppose chesaru? ROFL
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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:27 am:       


Boston_baba:

flipside is too much center dadagiri. already lot of state subjects gone into center fold. lot of central sponsered schemes etc, which were hitherto done by state.




not only centralization man...it will increase the price of goods

if u introduce a bill, ultimately aam aadmi should be benefited, evadiki taxation system easy cheyataniki peda, madya taragati valla naddi viraggottatame idi

as I told u , already MH is levying special taxes on the impoted items...TN will do it too

inka purpose ye solve avanapudu enduku ee system? thokka lo undue advantage

already income tax,service tax vadi bonda tax lu annitlo under developed states ki priority isthunnaru kada
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:22 am:       


Lenin:

do u think Center is some judge to do this? do think Center will do it without any bias?


so u mean to say u want centralization?



centralization is necessary evil, to contain companies taking undue advantage with states competing.

as u said, flipside is too much center dadagiri. already lot of state subjects gone into center fold. lot of central sponsered schemes etc, which were hitherto done by state.
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece
1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP.
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:10 am:       


Boston_baba:

dont want states to be in unhealthy competetion and dolling out tax sops to companies.




Utter BS man...do u think Center is some judge to do this? do think Center will do it without any bias?


so u mean to say u want centralization?
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:10 am:       

Elcome byaaakkk Mr Anderson errr Lenin
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fikileaks,
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:08 am:       

too much fingering in the state affairs this BJP govt...

already income tax centralization peru tho share chestandi...ipudu main source of income meeda debba kodtandi

centralization moolamga communist la ni vekkirinche vallu...pls open ur eyes...Communism lo centralization ledu dictators chesaru ade...Modi is going in that line

I am sure Congress will resurge in 2019 with govt launcing these kind of bills

I wish TN will stand against this bloody bill


amma come out...aatma gouravam leni kukkala ni aatma gouravam ante ento chooinchu
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:08 am:       


Lenin:


A am admi ki GST ki sambandh nahi.. Unna Adi +be effect ye

It is alternative tax model that benefits ease of business
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:08 am:       


Lenin:

USA is working well with leaving taxes to states dude...



USA and india are different. valladi federal state, manadi union state.
i dont want states to be in unhealthy competetion and dolling out tax sops to companies.
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece
1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP.
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:04 am:       


Bongaram:




tax vaddani evadannadu..

GST tho Aus adukku tintandi...economy on the decline man

avunu le mana ki aam aadmi emaipote endi...investors ki flexibility kavali

To stay relevant, Every state will levy their own tax

it will put upward pressure on prices...wait and see mate
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:02 am:       


Boston_baba:

Yes.
may be, distribution of tax proceeds need to be based on income generation.




USA is working well with leaving taxes to states dude...

GST has n't worked well any where...show me one good example

direct taxes are alot better...yes, consumer taxes should be reduced
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:01 am:       

Asalu tax ye vaddane meeku ye tax aite endhi
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:00 am:       

GST will make things worser

Already Maharashtra is levying special taxes for goods produced out of their state. If GST is passed, TN will do the same too. The only way to keep manufacturing in their state.


GST will only make things worse for consumers. VAT model was working really well, except that there were too many taxes. something could have been done about it.
 

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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 12:00 am:       


Lenin:

the question is : should India be an unified market?




Yes.
may be, distribution of tax proceeds need to be based on income generation.
there is lot of paper work involved for inter state goods transfer., which means more bureaucracy and harassment from officials etc..
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece
1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP.
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 11:56 pm:       

the more the centralization,

the more I revolt against central govt...

inkenduku ra mammalani India lo nundi denkeyyamanandi direct ga
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 11:55 pm:       

India is in the line of low scale countries in terms of Income tax

Tax GDP ratio in India is very low

if government has any concern for aam aadmi, consumption taxes should be reduced
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 11:53 pm:       

All the goods that transported out of state have to wait for days at the border

what about input credits that a particular state is providing for a product?

it's blow for South India especially TN...GST is achieving nothing both for states and traders
 

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Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 11:49 pm:       

The GST bill that was passed 2 days back was beyond horrendous

Do they expect states like TN, MH to support this bill? lol...

the thing about GST is it tries to give answer to a questions that no one wants answered


the question is : should India be an unified market?

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