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Thikka_sankara:

oka pakka okadu kaalchi doorchunte vaadini fight chestaava pakka veddhilo murderer ni fight chesthava??? When that murderer and this oppressor of yours are enemies, Bose applied the logic of a enemy's enemy and shook hands with Hitler and took help of Japan....adi boothu ante evadeM chepthaadu....aaaa roju kaalchina rod dooruthunnadi manaki kaaadu kaabatti Bose did a amateurish job ani statements pass cheseddam....




I have already referred to cripps' mission in this thread..

Chruchill cripps ane vadini India ki independence ivataniki pamparu with the clause that they have to support England in world war 2 1942 lo because they have decided that they no longer can keep India as a colony

the mission was failed because lack of unanimity by Congress and Muslim league


nuv mana meeda kathi, pakka road lo parai murderer anedi irrelevant analogy


British vallu 1940s time ki rigorous ga manalani em exploit cheyatledu...1940 lo British vadi tho poluste Hitler ye dangerous

may be nuv annatlu, East India company starting lo manam Germany vadi tho chethul kalipite baundedi but not in 1940s


Gandhiji wanted undivided India but not Muslim league...
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Rest of the post content I can live with but this sentence is a sore patch. Oru Nalanda oru taxila oru nagaruguna ila enno centers of learning vunnay but got destroyed during invasions ala ani we didn't have formal system of education ante bothU. Library of Alexandria destruction valla manam entha backward vellamo mana own universities destruction kuda anthe byaad


ippudu inkollochi gathamentha vaibhavamaithe goppenti geekkodamega varthamaanam, what do you gain by chest beating ani goal post shift chestaru....lol
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Lenin:

Hitler/ Japan mana joliki rakapote bigger evil kadu ani anakapotam lacks substance


lol, bigger evil kaaadu ante evil kaaadu ani deduce chesukuntunnav, I can't help it.... Denikaina frame of reference undaali....oka pakka okadu kaalchi doorchunte vaadini fight chestaava pakka veddhilo murderer ni fight chesthava??? When that murderer and this oppressor of yours are enemies, Bose applied the logic of a enemy's enemy and shook hands with Hitler and took help of Japan....adi boothu ante evadeM chepthaadu....aaaa roju kaalchina rod dooruthunnadi manaki kaaadu kaabatti Bose did a amateurish job ani statements pass cheseddam....
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but do you have a count of how many they were directly responsible for



Thikka_sankara:

problem is, there is no way to learn the counts of deaths and lives destroyed by the euro effuckkers in last 3-4 centuries.... and as dath_vader said below, we learn our history from euro countries pov.... so, their side is always rosy.... sad that we the descendants of the sufferrers too are forgetting what our previous generations had to go thru




And reg ur point on other kings, adi kooda prev post lo cover cheddam ani try chesa but length gurinchi cut chesaaa...

Yes, we were constantly under foreign oppression for almost a 1000-1400 yrs.... Yes, there were killings, there were loots.... Nenu cheppedi ade.... There were and are always evil forces.... Who wrecked havoc.....and to say that only Hitler is evil and because Bose shook his hands, even Bose is accomplice to evil anedaanni khandisthunna....just saying that from india's pov, Brits are as big if not more big evils compared to Hitler ani....where did you see me justifying earlier oppressions? Where did I paint a rosy picture of let's say a ruler like aurangazeb??
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Which is the oldest university we have or the old schools we have.


Rest of the post content I can live with but this sentence is a sore patch. Oru Nalanda oru taxila oru nagaruguna ila enno centers of learning vunnay but got destroyed during invasions ala ani we didn't have formal system of education ante bothU. Library of Alexandria destruction valla manam entha backward vellamo mana own universities destruction kuda anthe byaad.

On that note couple of days back rana ayyub tweeted where are the Mayans? she was being serious thinking that they are imaginary civilization appudu kaani Adam kaleedu both sides live in very deep wells.
The reason we struggle with insecurity is because we compare our behind-the-scenes with everyone else’s highlight reel.
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Thikka_sankara:

gger evil ante hail Hitler Hitler manchodu anatta???? Monna nannadigaav comprehension problem aaaa ani, oka saari self check chesuko....




u have carefully examine the situations post 1920s dude...

Nanajatisamiti form ainappati nunde imperial nations meeda pressure modalu aindi France, spain, UK slow ga colonies vadulchukotam start chesai...2nd world war time ki vati ki pressure maree ekkuva aindi


India vishayam lo Britain tho patu princely states and local leaders di kooda tappu undi even though there was lot of exploitation

Hitler's rise and fascism was unwarranted


if u ask any historian or anthropologist about the bigger evil among fascism and imperialism u'll get the answer\quoteauthor

{Thikka_sankara,Bigger evil ante hail Hitler Hitler manchodu anatta???? Monna nannadigaav comprehension problem aaaa ani, oka saari self check chesuko....}

ne line lo ne neeku answer icha to make u better understand


Japan opium wars time nunde oka daridrapu nation...chance dorikinapudalla China ni attack chesthune undedi


Hitler/ Japan mana joliki rakapote bigger evil kadu ani anakapotam lacks substance
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Thikka_sankara:

yes, to you, to farmer and to everyone... from India pov.... UK was bigger evil than germany and hitler.... edo oka decade or two decades kaadu.... almost 100 years fight chesaaru.... almost 4-5 generations fight chesaayi for freedom.... entha oppression entha looting and entha cant but stage lo unte tappa jeevithaniki inkem goal ledu swarajyame ani fight chestaaru???
ikkademo britishodu bridgelu kattadu integrate chesaadu train track lu esaadu neeru meeru padhakam pravesa pettadu vision 2020 tho suparipaalana andichaadu antunnaru..... manollaki balisi fight cheyyaledu bharinchaleka chesaaru...

kenya to australia.... india to southafrica to US.... anni countries ni occupy chesi slavery loki netti natural resources ni kolla gotti generations ni naasanam chesi janaalani cheeda purugulla treat chesi kukkalni treat chesinattu bathukulo chaavulo treat chesi champesina britishodi kante why should hitler be a bigger evil for Indians???

hitler chesindenti??? durakramana, mass killings..... eee rendu british odu kooda chesaadu appatiki chesthoone unnadu... scales differ, durakramana bhaari scale lo chesaadu.... killings, mass killings on same scale in same duration kaakapoina oka 200 yrs lo veedu veedi thothu european countries chesina count would out count hitler's

problem is, there is no way to learn the counts of deaths and lives destroyed by the euro effuckkers in last 3-4 centuries.... and as dath_vader said below, we learn our history from euro countries pov.... so, their side is always rosy.... sad that we the descendants of the sufferrers too are forgetting what our previous generations had to go thru




I am not a Brit apologist, but do you have a count of how many they were directly responsible for. Let's leave the Bengal famine for a moment. Why do we feel that the Hindu kings to a small extent and the Moghul rulers we had over the centuries are any better. Do you have a count of the number of people they killed, the number of temples they demolished, the uncounted and untold conversions and riots...have the Hindu kings and Muslim rulers demonstrated significant movements forward either in social reform, education, etc etc. These rulers were as much imperialists as much as the Brit. How the hell does their passport or colour of skin matter. Prajalni ni padi dochukone kadha ala chakkaga palaces, harems, jewellery, armies maintain chesaru. Where do you think that came from - love and fresh air.

Folks here are making it sound like all our Akhand Bharath rulers were overflowing with the milk of human kindness and planted trees and restrooms for their public. Which is the oldest university we have or the old schools we have. Malla ippudu universities is a new concept - manaki gurukuls or madrasas unnayi antaru......yela sachedhi meetho nenu..
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Lenin:

why do u always twist the context I have stated?


lol twist chesthondevaro chooddamaa.....

Idi nuvvu naa post nunchi deduce chesi ichina statement.....

Lenin:

natho chedda ga behave chesinode nijamaina chedda vadu, migata valla ni kalchi champi nannu em anakapote vadu bharata mata muddu bidda ane ne logic undi choosava




Naaa statement ento chooddamaa

Thikka_sankara:

from India pov.... UK was bigger evil than germany and hitler...




Bigger evil ante hail Hitler Hitler manchodu anatta???? Monna nannadigaav comprehension problem aaaa ani, oka saari self check chesuko....
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Thikka_sankara:




lengthiest rhetoric post...

whole world ane word ni intha serious ga teeskunnava? lol.. whole world in the sense the countries that have participated in the world war

why do u always twist the context I have stated?


I said Japan is not no smaller imperial nation..

nuv cheppe logic prakaram Loveden kooda ma bujji mataniki gajji ledu ani edo konni planes koolcheskunnadu, he is the real gentle man born after Hitler !


Love him and have his pics in all BJP party offices...Kukatpally ki okati order chestha ipude!


Hail Hitler...the casualties during Hitler's rule >>>>> Casualties in Indian independence movement !

natho chedda ga behave chesinode nijamaina chedda vadu, migata valla ni kalchi champi nannu em anakapote vadu bharata mata muddu bidda ane ne logic undi choosava
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Lenin:


when the whole world was against Germany how can you rate UK on same scale with Germany ?


ettettaa... whole waraldaaa... .apart from europe and us, tell one another country which sided with UK coalition on its own??? migilina countries anni were forced to fight against germany.... because they were under some or other form of colonization

yes, to you, to farmer and to everyone... from India pov.... UK was bigger evil than germany and hitler.... edo oka decade or two decades kaadu.... almost 100 years fight chesaaru.... almost 4-5 generations fight chesaayi for freedom.... entha oppression entha looting and entha cant but stage lo unte tappa jeevithaniki inkem goal ledu swarajyame ani fight chestaaru???
ikkademo britishodu bridgelu kattadu integrate chesaadu train track lu esaadu neeru meeru padhakam pravesa pettadu vision 2020 tho suparipaalana andichaadu antunnaru..... manollaki balisi fight cheyyaledu bharinchaleka chesaaru...

kenya to australia.... india to southafrica to US.... anni countries ni occupy chesi slavery loki netti natural resources ni kolla gotti generations ni naasanam chesi janaalani cheeda purugulla treat chesi kukkalni treat chesinattu bathukulo chaavulo treat chesi champesina britishodi kante why should hitler be a bigger evil for Indians???

hitler chesindenti??? durakramana, mass killings..... eee rendu british odu kooda chesaadu appatiki chesthoone unnadu... scales differ, durakramana bhaari scale lo chesaadu.... killings, mass killings on same scale in same duration kaakapoina oka 200 yrs lo veedu veedi thothu european countries chesina count would out count hitler's

problem is, there is no way to learn the counts of deaths and lives destroyed by the euro effuckkers in last 3-4 centuries.... and as dath_vader said below, we learn our history from euro countries pov.... so, their side is always rosy.... sad that we the descendants of the sufferrers too are forgetting what our previous generations had to go thru
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Whyme:

Bjp govt, tiger modi pm..
Why don't they open Bose files?




they will. a new minister level panel has been formed. all this drama needs to end, once for all.
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Bjp govt, tiger modi pm..
Why don't they open Bose files?
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Title choosi Bose speakers emo anukunna ... anduke open kuda cheyaledu

subhash chandra bose gurincha thread
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Lenin:

England kante Germany better ani anatam




evaru annaaru ala ani? england-russia are comparatively better but no saints...
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Asdf:

ww2 ayye varaku bongu gaani ichi vunde vallu kaadu




nen stress chestundi who is more evil ane dani meeda

Bose tappa right aa ani ipudu AC room lo korchuni manam decide cheyatam foolishness...kakapote Bose correct ani chepatam kosam England kante Germany better ani anatam matram hilarious joke of the new/old combined millenniums I say
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Lenin:

before the start of the world war itself, UK has proposal to give independence to India...google for Cripps' mission




proposal vundatam very, ivatam veru. ww2 ayye varaku bongu gaani ichi vunde vallu kaadu
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dhi emainaa violence thoo india ki independence vachi vunte, it would have been extremely difficult to keep india intact...we would have seen several civil wars... ani naa yokka adhi....therein lies the greatness of mahatma...In 20's and early 30's when everyone was pushing congress to fight for "self rule", he refused to take up that slogan, because he firmly believed that Indians are not ready to rule themselves, yet....he concentrated on unifying indians ....or atleast hindus...... he was a great visionary.....

bose, nehru, patel etc...may be great in their own way, but gandhi kurrod mundhu jujubis...yes, i'm telling thattt






gandhi meeda every month thread vese right wing kurralaki MODI kooda gaddi pettad

gandhi rocks
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Mourya empire - Ruled most of India.

http://indiaopines.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Maurya_Dyn asty_in_265_BCE1.jpg

Ashoka also same.

Given a chance , everybody wants to rule as much land as possible.
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By 1938 Bose had become a leader of national stature and agreed to accept nomination as Congress president. He stood for unqualified swaraj (independence), including the use of force against the British. This meant a confrontation with Mohandas Gandhi, who in fact opposed Bose's presidency, splitting the Congress party. Bose attempted to maintain unity, but Gandhi advised Bose to form his own cabinet. The rift also divided Bose and Nehru. Bose appeared at the 1939 Congress meeting on a stretcher. Though he was elected president again, this time differences with Gandhi led to Bose's resignation. "I am an extremist, " Bose once said, and his uncompromising stand finally cut him off from the mainstream of Indian nationalism.

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Bose got cholera and was forced to come on stretcher and he was re-elected as congress president; but Nehru and Gandhi did politics behind and forced him to resign
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Bushu:

he made a wrong call to seek their support but the other option was equally bad for him.




when the whole world was against Germany how can you rate UK on same scale with Germany ?

before the start of the world war itself, UK has proposal to give independence to India...google for Cripps' mission

With revolutions dethroning autocratic / colony govts no idiot in this world at that time would have thought to keep their colonies that too a large country like India!

Germany/ Japan vs UK, US (in 1940s) , UK, US were much better
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Lenin:


2nd world war lo Japan+Germany win ayyunte we would have been colonized by Japan.




idhi Bose vallatho chethulu kalpina kalpakunna ayyedhe gaa. he made a wrong call to seek their support but the other option was equally bad for him.
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we can not judge his personality...but strategy was definitely wrong

2nd world war lo Japan+Germany win ayyunte we would have been colonized by Japan...idi UK ki thatha lantidi, ipatiki kooda Japan Chakravarthy kosam manam patal padata undevallam
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Farmer:

and brits killed some indians.....but brits are much much better than hitler, they did not gas a million indians....killing in war is different from gasing innocents...




how about starving Indians? roughly 3 million of them to be left for dead during the bengal famine in 1943? look up what Churchill did as Indians perished to the famine.

to imagine that Brits were benevolent to any of their colonies is just stockholm syndrome. boer wars, iraq, aden, jalianwala bagh, bengal famine. the list is endless.
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masularex kurrod vassad ante, bhaggu mani undaale ekkadoo akkada...
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I bet there will be more Roosevelt Rds and Lincoln Avenues .. Please accept them as the greatest ever leaders to be born!
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The above is TRUE when consider ONLY US, where as I am talking about in foreign countries other than the respective leader's own countries.

BTW, Yes Roosvelt and Lincoln are/were great leaders in their own way. As I said, I am not belittling any other leader(s) by praising Gandhi.
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Siloan:

kaun koriyo


hum sab milke ji ..

Masularex:

yentha try chesina gandhi nehru prabha ye maatram thaggadu


tagginchali ane duradu evadiki ledu .. nijam matram unnadi unnattu ga matladali .. not doctored history ..

Masularex:

athanu ela chanipoyadu anedi sectret records lo undocchu... govt meedi nenu monna cheppinattu gee lo dee unte avi bayata pettandi !


nuvvem tension padaku .. anni bayataki vastayi .. ide kaadu .. Lal Bahadur Shastri gari body ki post mortem enduku cheyyaledu .. etc etc .. eppudu vadultada ane timing kosam guess chestoo koorchondi .. :D
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mana Bob kuda letter issadu ..




melikaloddhu (laayan NBK stone) ...parliment mein rape kaun koriyo
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chusavu ga Bose ne calm ga tokkesaru .. power ki ekkada addostado ani .. nuvvu/nenu entha allaki oodigam cheyyakapothe ..


okka vishayam... evadu thokkaledu ! congress lo internal gaa sideline chesaaru reason he was incompatible with the setup, axis powers vaalla own swardam kosam athanni vaadukunnaru... athanu fail ayyadu... athanu ela chanipoyadu anedi sectret records lo undocchu... govt meedi nenu monna cheppinattu gee lo dee unte avi bayata pettandi !

chanipoyinollani yentha thokkali ? prayojanam yenti ? nickerwalas yentha try chesina gandhi nehru prabha ye maatram thaggadu idi anthe subhash chandra bose desa bakthudu yevuru kaadanaru... yevaru maarcha leru...
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meeru sesina


meeru/memu veru kaadu .. antha maname .. mana Nama kuda vote esadu .. marisava? mana Bob kuda letter issadu .. marisava? gurtundalsinavi ivi .. jhe jhe?
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adigo vindi lo tittadu ani dooram ga nilabadi raallu estunnadi meere .



deshamante UP/GUJJU/MH kaadoi....AP pesal package koodanoi...ainanaadu...bhayya gaadi rule meedha nambika erpadata...
konde gaallaki bullet trains ...deficit lo vunna maaku..musti...above all...parlament mein poweroff hamla...
daaai daaii....taraaalu gurtuntadi meeru sesina avamaanam
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soopettu aithe ..andarni kalupukpoyi!


randi .. ante .. adigo vindi lo tittadu ani dooram ga nilabadi raallu estunnadi meere .. aina parledu .. randi .. ee desam lo andariki hakku/badhyata undi .. okallade kadu ..

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naa praniki viluva lenappudu, evadi kaavali mattlo desam ???


ippudu unna setup lo .. oka negru galla prananiki tappa .. inkevariki viluva em ledu le .. jesht mana bhrama anthe .. chusavu ga Bose ne calm ga tokkesaru .. power ki ekkada addostado ani .. nuvvu/nenu entha allaki oodigam cheyyakapothe ..
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But the FACT is there NO OTHER LEADER in the ENTIRE WORLD who could bring UNITY among MILLIONS of Indians who were split on every basis that a person can think of (Religon/Caste/Region/Social Status/Literacy.... you name any thing) and made them rally BEHIND his simple NON-VIOLENCE principle.




idi perfect point. indy peddayana valla vachindi anedi asalu trappu

roads di emundi, raga pm aithe rajaga peru ekkuva avutundi
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daaniki vallu chesina lootilanni marchipoyi edo manaki pedda favor chesinattu cutting kodathar janaalu (not you, in general statement idi)


thikka vunkl...vunnadhi vunnattu matladukotam loo thappu emundhi....yes, brits unified the sub-continent......yes, brits are thieves of the highest order....and brits killed some indians.....but brits are much much better than hitler, they did not gas a million indians....killing in war is different from gasing innocents......brits rule chesina time loo koodaa, at the point of gun conversions cheyyaledhu vallu....dabbulu ichi, edhanna padhavi aasa choopi... alaa try chesevallu...india british olla chethulloki vellakundaa spanish or portugese chethiloki vellunte maroo south america ayyedhi.
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desa prayojanala drustya vishala drukpadam undadam manchidi ..


naa praniki viluva lenappudu, evadi kaavali mattlo desam ???
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Tilak:

desa prayojanala drustya vishala drukpadam undadam manchidi ..



soopettu aithe ..andarni kalupukpoyi!
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Gsn1:

There are MORE roads and cities named ALL OVER the world than ANY OTHER LEADER in human kind.


I bet there will be more Roosevelt Rds and Lincoln Avenues .. Please accept them as the greatest ever leaders to be born!

Masularex:

akkedikelli nazi outfits yesukonnadu, germany ammayini chesukunnadu !


nazi outfit esukunnada? inka nayam .. gas chambers lo work chesadu analedu .. http://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/rdv7n1/Bose.htm nuvvu chadavali idi ..

german ni preminchadu .. decent ga pelli chesukunnadu .. tappemundi .. Nehru gari rear akkada kuda black ee .. pelli lekunda ennnnooo gokuds, set ups, sleep overs .. emani septaam ..

Siloan:

chwathiks ...naaara teeshetollu...espeshally nalla dravidangals ni..


nee jail periyaru angle neede kada .. desa prayojanala drustya vishala drukpadam undadam manchidi ..
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There are SO MANY Great leaders/people who gave up their ENTIRE life for India's independence.

Some leaders got MORE RECOGNITION than OTHERS, TRUE.

But the FACT is there NO OTHER LEADER in the ENTIRE WORLD who could bring UNITY among MILLIONS of Indians who were split on every basis that a person can think of (Religon/Caste/Region/Social Status/Literacy.... you name any thing) and made them rally BEHIND his simple NON-VIOLENCE principle.

This is UNIQUE to INDIA and MAHATMA. He is UNIVERSALLY RESPECTED (may be a small minority of people in India might oppose him and his legacy). There are MORE roads and cities named ALL OVER the world than ANY OTHER LEADER in human kind. He was the inspiration for MANY other great leader's of the world.

No one else can come close to him on principles or following those principles in an uncompromised fashion!

Hats off to JATHI PITHA MAHATMA GANDHI!

Please NOT that, there is no belittling any freedom fighter just because I have praised Gandhi!
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Tilak:

Nehru Britishollaki oodigam sesinattu .. Bose Germany/Japan la ki oodigam seyyaledu .. he only sought friendship with respect kabatti .. it would have been better .




legess annitiki nee kudi vooohe correst avvadam kudarani pani..
chwathiks ...naaara teeshetollu...espeshally nalla dravidangals ni..
bhayya gaaalladem poyindi...imlakaayi
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Tilak:

Nehru Britishollaki oodigam sesinattu .. Bose Germany/Japan la ki oodigam seyyaledu .. he only sought friendship with respect kabatti .. it would have been better .. lot better .. paiga swardam teliyanodu .. avineethi che


idi inko boothu... akkedikelli nazi outfits yesukonnadu, germany ammayini chesukunnadu !

aallu stipends iste ragtag fauj ikkata chesaadu !

gelichina tarwatha sonthanga yeetikanna different gaa emi cheyagaligevodu ?

edodo saana chesevodu anta misguided hyper nationalistic communilists picchi kekalu thappithe, asala reasoning anedi emmanna unda ???
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mottam thini mottam film chusi, oka scene lo tivaasi persian design match kaaledu ani cheppi lesi yellipoyadanta ! he he !


nee lantode anukunta .. cheppina vishayam lo main point odilesi sub point attukuni time pass sesings .. :D
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btw .. India lo I capital raayali ..


oka saari satyajit ray gaaru madras vaste bapu ramana gaaru iddaru special appointment theesukoni bojanam petti sampoorna ramayanam special premier esi chupinchaarata,

mottam thini mottam film chusi, oka scene lo tivaasi persian design match kaaledu ani cheppi lesi yellipoyadanta ! he he !
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stalin garu bhi trakkuva tainaled. compared to titler, they looked better


adey kada... hitler ki mundu prapancham antha lama la tho nindi saanthi kaamakulla bathikinattu.... hitler gaadu aaa chakkani sarovaram lo chimmina vishapu chukka anattu kutting kodataaaru.... 2-3 hundred years, generations generations ni looti chesi dobbaru.... manushula pranaalaki viluva ledu.... veellu maathram devils kaadu.... why single out hitler... in worldwar2, no matter which side you were, you were brushing with devil....
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for suppose, world war II lo nazis and axis powers gelichaaru,


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Masularex:

for suppose, world war II lo nazis and axis powers gelichaaru, vaari support tho bose india gelichaadu! mana desa kaalagrathi ela undedi ! guess chesi cheppu !


Nehru Britishollaki oodigam sesinattu .. Bose Germany/Japan la ki oodigam seyyaledu .. he only sought friendship with respect kabatti .. it would have been better .. lot better .. paiga swardam teliyanodu .. avineethi che

btw .. India lo I capital raayali ..

Thikka_sankara:

eyyy appatidaaka countries countries ni lootilu maaranahomaalu chesthunna britishodu devil kaada....


ejjactly .. but ee point ardam chesukokunda vadistaru ee romilla students ..
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hat hitler alone is devil ani.... eyyy appatidaaka countries countries ni lootilu maaranahomaalu chesthunna britishodu devil kaada.... sorry mana desaanni unite chesina his highness kadaa.... marchithi




stalin garu bhi trakkuva tainaled. compared to titler, they looked better
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Chass thread hitler side tirigindhaa.. anyway history is written by victors so gelisina vallu emi cheppina vinali manam
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bose overrated ante yes, extent telvad.

inka gandhi , freedom gandhi valla vachindi anedi pedda boothu. freedom vachinapudu janallo India ante feeling ki reason gandhi ani naa idi
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thu



Tilak:

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nijam maddenam sureedu laantidi... dhaani meeda nuvvu entha geekaricchi thu ani usinaa thirigi vacchi nee moham meede padaddi ! thudusikini point matladu !

for suppose, world war II lo nazis and axis powers gelichaaru, vaari support tho bose india gelichaadu ! mana desa kaalagrathi ela undedi ! guess chesi cheppu !
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b/w inko propoganda... that hitler alone is devil ani.... eyyy appatidaaka countries countries ni lootilu maaranahomaalu chesthunna britishodu devil kaada.... sorry mana desaanni unite chesina his highness kadaa.... marchithi
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nicker waalas demundi le.... nickerlu lekapothe gochilettukuni tirigevallu,... nehru laanti sickulars ki ey range lo kaarindo ippudu ardham kaavatledaa.... bose poyaadu annaka 20yrs survellence ettinchaarante....
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I am certain that british and russians eliminated him, that went good for india !


Sunil thu icon ..

Masularex:

india under the bose kandan !


Allu Arjun thu icon .. Negru pamily ni mosina meere seppala khandaan gurinchi .. adi kuda sarvam tyagam chesina Bose ki ..
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kidgloves tho kontha mandi leaders ni treat chesundochu...


this is what I meant
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he was patriotic, but short sighted, could not understand the prevailing scenarios and he sided with the devil... I am certain that british and russians eliminated him, that went good for india !

just imagine, bose under the nazis, world under the nazi hegemony, india under the bose kandan ! cheddi walas ye rangu yentha thick nickers waade vaaro appudu ! thaata theesi concentration camps lo vadilevaaru ! telupu cheddi yesukunna pasupu rangu ki maaredi !
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bengal famine..


eppudu talachukunna badhestundi .. human suffering of unmatched proportion ee famines .. adi kuda annapurna India lo!! :-(
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Mental_sachinodu:


my bad what I wanted to convey is their treatment of leaders.

Military intervention ayithe you think they would have got the same support from kingdoms? For all that we know ottomon empire would have come knocking on our borders to first help then expand their territories. French & Portuguese wouldn't have been far off in offering their help. British already tasted defeat in US by then.
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Indian sub-continent ni kid gloves tho treat chesinattu


what thee.... etidi???? kidgloves tho kontha mandi leaders ni treat chesundochu.... nation as whole suffer avvaledantava???
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Malay peninsula lo vallu chesina danda tho compare chesthe Indian sub-continent ni kid gloves tho treat chesinattu




direct military assault leka povataniki, reason enti? why do you think is the reason?

btw, how about the way they handled bengal famine.. churchill openly commented that would be one way to defeat indian resolve and take up arms... compared to this sort of massacre mau,mau pales.
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Malay peninsula lo vallu chesina danda tho compare chesthe Indian sub-continent ni kid gloves tho treat chesinattu


really? only bcoz majority of us were kept passive by our own Indian leadership? and yet we saw many Jallianwala Baghs ..
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by 60s British has started withdrawing their forces from all over the world. Mau, Mau or Malay, avi jaragaka poyina i think the rule would have ended.

btw, british was in kenya since 1880s. they with drew in early 1960s.


tirugubatu eppudu ayyindhi is my point. Malay peninsula lo vallu chesina danda tho compare chesthe Indian sub-continent ni kid gloves tho treat chesinattu
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it depends on ur personality.. what you considered overrated may be underrated for others.. it's just how you could view the history..




no, no. when it comes to history, no smoked glasses needed. as it is ga ardham sesukovatam is better.

we can objectively compare and understand the realities of those times. however, i agree we can label them any we chose to.
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My point was simple whether some knight in a shining armour vachi unify chesevado ledho adhi just anukovataniki baguntadhi but what happened is a fact so why should you not give them that credit? ikkada credit ichinantha matrana vallu emi poppa vallu ayyiporu





i think you are seeing the image from flipped side.. by 60s British has started withdrawing their forces from all over the world. Mau, Mau or Malay, avi jaragaka poyina i think the rule would have ended.

btw, british was in kenya since 1880s. they with drew in early 1960s.
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it depends on ur personality.. what you considered overrated may be underrated for others.. it's just how you could view the history..
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ante entandi




kenyan armed struggle vunkl.. after which kenya turned into a police state .. and deeply divided the tribes. and in the end mau,mau tribe lost after the death of the leader. and yes it is just a tribal rebellion, and not nationalist in flavor.

British succeeded in their campaigns because of warring factions and tribes... military campaigns were main restricted to mainly defensive tactics...
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nuvvu PESIT aa brother? or CIT aa?
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My point was simple whether some knight in a shining armour vachi unify chesevado ledho adhi just anukovataniki baguntadhi but what happened is a fact so why should you not give them that credit? ikkada credit ichinantha matrana vallu emi poppa vallu ayyiporu
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Mental_sachinodu:

to me that is a struggle, but you dont agree to it, but you seem to agree that mau, mau is a better struggle, so trying to understand your POV.

how is mau, mau a better struggle? whats so great about it?

between, was british rule a millitary campaign?


Simple unkle Malay uprising or Mau Mau achieved independence for their countries within 10-15 years time frame but in India Congress was formed after 1857 uprising. So take a guess where it went wrong off course the British power was on the wane by the time they faced Malay or Mau Mau but still 90 years is freaking long time to kick them out.
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kingdom of AP, Kingdome of T vundeevi unification lepothe not republics


daandemundi le.... evadoka king anni conquer chesi United Kingdom of Bharath varsh ani country kinda declare chesi dobbevaadu.... naa basic point ade... britishers ruled and exited India at the appropriate time when things were changing worldwide.... leka pothe ide change Ashoka time lo ochunte, whatever was under his rule then would have become nation of India kadaa....
just in right place and right time unnaaru ani vaallaki anthesi credits ivvakarledu....

aina vaalledo unify chesaar chesaar ani gola... em chesaar vayya.... till 1947 we were a colony.... after that we were split into multiple countries.... infact vallu techina unity kanna patel garu techina unity matters a lot.... and thats what I said above, if not british, someone else would have done that work of unification ani.....

daaniki vallu chesina lootilanni marchipoyi edo manaki pedda favor chesinattu cutting kodathar janaalu (not you, in general statement idi)

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mau



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1857 lo start ayyi 1947 ki vachindi independence so what struggle ani questioning?




to me that is a struggle, but you dont agree to it, but you seem to agree that mau, mau is a better struggle, so trying to understand your POV.

how is mau, mau a better struggle? whats so great about it?

between, was british rule a millitary campaign?
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Mental_sachinodu:

lost me vunkl, why is such a rebellion needed?


1857 lo start ayyi 1947 ki vachindi independence so what struggle ani questioning?

Thikka_sankara:

republic or kingdom, Sovereignty common kada.... just that china chose to be republic UK also chose to be republic but has presence of decorative king and queen....... so what??? difference ardham kaaled em cheppadalchukunnavo???


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Most voverrated candidate is Gandhi!



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Most voverrated candidate is Gandhi!


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republic of china antaam kaani not kingdom of china;


republic or kingdom, Sovereignty common kada.... just that china chose to be republic UK also chose to be republic but has presence of decorative king and queen....... so what??? difference ardham kaaled em cheppadalchukunnavo???
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struggle em vundi urhonor atleast oru Mau-Mau uprising lantivi chesara congress ollu? Salt match, quit india etc� btw south indians ante except Trvancore, Mysore & hyderabad were kingdoms so why will they fight against Britishers?




lost me vunkl, why is such a rebellion needed?
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gandhi/nehru thokkesina mata vastahvam kaada? bhagath singh ki kooda support ledu kadaa!
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daani opinion pattinchukune vallu kuda unnara, except commie apologists?


sare arundati roy pakkana pettu what do our brothers in NE think? why are they given packages every year?
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aavu essay rasi nokaavu andhuke nenu example kuda icha Republic of India Vs Kingdom of Denmark ani similarly People's republic of china antaam kaani not kingdom of china; btw Tibet, Taiwan & arunachal pradesh are also parts of Republic of China. Alage take Greece as an example; different kingdom states have history but not Greece as a single entity.
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Arundati Roy cheppamandhi


daani opinion pattinchukune vallu kuda unnara, except commie apologists?

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chana difference vund


ela undante naa chinnappudu pluto planet ippudu kaadu.... pluto em tappu chesindi?? we changed our definition anthe..... okappudu raajyaalunnai but the binding factors were civilizations..... take china.... almost 7 different major states undevi... valllallo vallu kottukune vallu... but the driving force was to unite whole chinese civilization and bring all states into one umbrella.... each king had that drive to become that emperor....

kinda quote chesaa... India lo kooda aa concept undi.... jambu dweepe bharatha varshe bharatha khande.... bharatha varsha ane concept.... you can call hindu literature as fiction, but that fiction defined a varsha, which represented our civilization..... that fiction said it was a united kingdome once, each king would have fought with the same idea of uniting the whole civilization and become that emperor..... appati concept of a nation different ippati concept different

how come warring kingdoms under one civilization be equated with a country antaavemo.... ippudu maathram civil wars raavu between states ani haami ivvagalava??? US lo raaleda between different states?? each govt federal structure ani erpaatu chesi alaantivi jaragakunda jaagratthalu teesukuntunnai... meaning jaagrathha ga leka pothe jaragochu anedi key point....

end of the day, it is the identity that binds the people.....
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Nikkar is so 90s latex trend bum shorts ni tilak cheppamannadu




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hinduism anedi religion ye kaadu, India anedi desam ye kaadu. mee right wing govt. vachinapati nunchi mee nikkar kathalu ekkuva aindi


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ndia lo kuda adhe model nadusthandi ani Arundati Roy cheppamandhi




hinduism anedi religion ye kaadu, India anedi desam ye kaadu. mee right wing govt. vachinapati nunchi mee nikkar kathalu ekkuva aindi
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ee thokka lo nation-state concept ki pedda sanctity ledu raju garu .. ivaala repu .. top 20-30 countries tappithe (in terms of area, economy, population) .. migilina countries anni .. on very shaky foundations .. constant ga borders maripotunnayi .. pseudo democracies ga maripotunnayi .. big nations ki resources exploit backyard avutunnayi .. that model is a big failure you see!!


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civilization ante bagane vuntadi but people equate civilization = nation - state which is wrong.


ee thokka lo nation-state concept ki pedda sanctity ledu raju garu .. ivaala repu .. top 20-30 countries tappithe (in terms of area, economy, population) .. migilina countries anni .. on very shaky foundations .. constant ga borders maripotunnayi .. pseudo democracies ga maripotunnayi .. big nations ki resources exploit backyard avutunnayi .. that model is a big failure you see!!
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no dipperence babu moshai…


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overrated ane nenu anukunta. .indian books chadivithe gandhi, nehru, bose andaru great..

konchem foreign books chadivithe andaru boku.

Enthaina. .media makes lots of difference in public way of thinking. manaku nehru ante udaragotti ettaru..

Gandhi ni kuda aa range lo leparu kani.. some people say he is cong created character.. real ga ala undedi kadu antaru..

tappadu..
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Mental_sachinodu:

over hyped freedom struggle aa... hmmmm south indians inthe dolling.. shell lo ninsi bayataki raaru...


struggle em vundi urhonor atleast oru Mau-Mau uprising lantivi chesara congress ollu? Salt match, quit india etc… btw south indians ante except Trvancore, Mysore & hyderabad were kingdoms so why will they fight against Britishers?
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Darth_vader:

civilization ante bagane vuntadi but


no dipperence babu moshai...
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Tilak:

raju garu .. meeru kuda na?



Darth_vader:

civilization ante bagane vuntadi but people equate civilization = nation - state which is wrong.


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Siloan:

way of life ekkada daaka isthaarinchi vunte...akkadidaaka hamla seyyadam kosam


purinjila appa ..

Bushu:

and of course in time for bengal assembly elections in 2016


tappemundi .. bengal manadi avvala ..

Rajusk:

this is my understanding too...


raju garu .. meeru kuda na?
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Farmer:

ok, that's your opinion....the way I read history, India subcontinent had numerous kingdoms for thousand of years, and they all fought among themselves.....Hindu kings fought with hindus and muslims,,,muslim kings fought other muslims and hindus...europeans fought with hindu kings, muslim kings and among themselves (british, french, dutch, portugese etc)....everyone fought for a piece of land so they could rule over a bigger kingdom... they did not fight for any "pan indian identity". It's not "Indians vs Others"...never was.




this is my understanding too...

Dactar saab..meeru Civils raasi unte..sure shot ga vachedi emo..

nen History major subject teesukoni ..chala research maadthini..of course..not enough though
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looks like Modi is serious about disclosing the files content. a new minister level panel has been built. wonder if this will stay for long. fascinating times; we will see what all happened.

and of course in time for bengal assembly elections in 2016 :D
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between agree with farmer vunkl...

kings saana vongo bettaar.. irrespective of whether they are rajputs, mughals, or the southerners... british played game very well, and took over the country without too much bloodshed, just by controlling the petty issues between kingdoms...

the mass movements made the difference finally, mobilization hevvar hevvar sesaaro theliyandhi kaadhi... every had played their part.

Bose kurrod comparision with bhagath singh is like comparing iphone with iphone app ...

between not taking anything away from priyatama bhagath singh...

yes, british couldnt manage india .. and thats what was needed, and thats what was trying be conveyed, that we do not accept a ruler from outside, and they cannot control us. that was the whole point of non-cooperation, granted british has other external issues as well, which only hastened the eventual withdrawl.
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over hyped freedom struggle aa... hmmmm south indians inthe dolling.. shell lo ninsi bayataki raaru...

atleast vijjiwada ranga episode antha anna undha?
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way of life ekkada daaka isthaarinchi vunte...akkadidaaka hamla seyyadam kosam raefel deal ani chubbu chaaamy ni oppinchandi
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Thikka_sankara:

prathi saari ide chepdaam ani try chestaa... mari nen cheppadamlo lopamo vinevalla lo lopamo kaani every time same tune start chestaaru.... arey baabu a civilization flourishing since bare minimum lo bare minimum 5000 years ni chivarlo ochina oka 200 yr ruler account loki tosestaara ani.... endo le manollake inferiority complex….


civilization ante bagane vuntadi but people equate civilization = nation - state which is wrong.
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meeru sanakarul ni techi sentiment eduthunnaru..
cultural boundaries ki, geographical/ruling boundaries ki theda vundi kada mesharu.. sankarulu ade push ko prophet laga talvar teesthey akhand bharat appudu set ayyedi.. otherwise it is a virtual boundary




the point is .. we could go all the way to indus river valley and we can call the locals "my people"

the boundary of "my people" is akhand bharat
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Bushu:

This whole idea that India as a country never existed. ofcourse, it was never a nation state since that in itself is a fairly new concept until westphalia. India was always the civilizational state, just like China - a Hindustan at an aggregated level. even from megasthenes times, they said they were traveling to a land called 'bharat' or 'sindhu' or 'Hindu' land. he even called his work 'indica'.

we always considered this as one 'varsha' and the common binding factor for all the warring factions was Hinduism, the religion - there's no two ways about it. no common language, dress code or food - but this diverse faith was what was common. just because china had multiple dynasties and multiple kings fighting each other, you don't say a civilizational state did not exist. and ofcourse both in India and china, no one needed a visa/passport to go from one kingdom to another and were always welcome so long as there was no war. that should say something

in modern lingo, India would be a multi-national state, not just a nation state.




prathi saari ide chepdaam ani try chestaa... mari nen cheppadamlo lopamo vinevalla lo lopamo kaani every time same tune start chestaaru.... arey baabu a civilization flourishing since bare minimum lo bare minimum 5000 years ni chivarlo ochina oka 200 yr ruler account loki tosestaara ani.... endo le manollake inferiority complex....
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nee enna pesare?
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weren't Columbus looking for India when he found USA? Surely, concept of "India" must have been true then...
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bose audio ani open jeyale till now
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Bose elantivadaina Japs and nazis to chetulu kalapadam anedi ghorati ghoram aa time lo ... satruvu ki satruvu mitrudu type logic ani support cheskovadame!
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This whole idea that India as a country never existed. ofcourse, it was never a nation state since that in itself is a fairly new concept until westphalia. India was always the civilizational state, just like China - a Hindustan at an aggregated level. even from megasthenes times, they said they were traveling to a land called 'bharat' or 'sindhu' or 'Hindu' land. he even called his work 'indica'.

we always considered this as one 'varsha' and the common binding factor for all the warring factions was Hinduism, the religion - there's no two ways about it. no common language, dress code or food - but this diverse faith was what was common. just because china had multiple dynasties and multiple kings fighting each other, you don't say a civilizational state did not exist. and ofcourse both in India and china, no one needed a visa/passport to go from one kingdom to another and were always welcome so long as there was no war. that should say something :D

in modern lingo, India would be a multi-national state, not just a nation state.
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Cocanada:

where did this geographical boundary come from?


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Cocanada:

lol in 800 AD Sankaracharya established 4 mutts himalayas, TN, orissa, gujarat where did this geographical boundary come from?




meeru sanakarul ni techi sentiment eduthunnaru..
cultural boundaries ki, geographical/ruling boundaries ki theda vundi kada mesharu.. sankarulu ade push ko prophet laga talvar teesthey akhand bharat appudu set ayyedi.. otherwise it is a virtual boundary
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Darth_vader:

one more Pol Pot but that is just a conjuncture.




impossible. someone who gave up his INC president win just to sort out others' differences with him, would never become a tinpot. everything's a conjecture of course but I am fairly certain of this. he was also quite democratic even within the INA in his delegations etc.


Tilak:

he was ultra-secular unlike Gandhi's Hindu-sickular mask ..




maybe that would have been the 'true' secularism for the country but I doubt it. he would have been worse, in some respects. would have pandered a lot more but may have prevented the partition. who knows.
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Whyme:

There was no akhand Bharat


lol

in 800 AD Sankaracharya established 4 mutts

himalayas, TN, orissa, gujarat

where did this geographical boundary come from?
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too flat...Yes, saana over rated...kaani WAF saana ekkuva...
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Bushu:

However, the right wingers of today would definitely not like him as much if he continued. he was a lover of many things islamic and also quite leftist in thought.


For all we know he would have ended up as one more Pol Pot but that is just a conjuncture.

Darth_vader:

As time goes by only the good is remembered and jobless people do a good work at churning out hageograpic pieces.



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Bushu:

However, the right wingers of today would definitely not like him as much if he continued. he was a lover of many things islamic and also quite leftist in thought.


absolutely. manchi ki manchi .. punch ki punch bose tho .. truth be told .. he was ultra-secular unlike Gandhi's Hindu-sickular mask .. :D
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Definitely not overrated. He shook the INC in 1939 and later with the mutiny in the British Indian army, which happened for the first time ever. The youth of India then were in his sway like never before and he was a huge icon.

However, the right wingers of today would definitely not like him as much if he continued. :D he was a lover of many things islamic and also quite leftist in thought.
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Farmer:

they did not fight for any "pan indian identity". It's not "Indians vs Others"...never was.




http://haribhakt.com/hindu-king-ashok-converting-to-buddhism -led-to-demise-of-his-empire/

Chakravarti Ashok Samrat was the greatest native Indian emperor, first ever emperor in recent age to unify India, after successfully merging most of South Asia and Afghanistan. He was the first proponent of Akhand Bharat – believing that a nation that is big, resourceful and administered properly can keep its citizens happy and prosperous.
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Darth_vader:

Nehru & Gandhi ey overrated




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no highs no lows must be bose

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There was no akhand Bharat - there is Mughal empire, Hindu-kush empire etc..there was maratha empire which fought against, then aspired to vecome what mughal empire was once before etc.. Not sure how much the word Hindustan was used before Brits came.. All might have taked about the civilization that exists near Indus Valley..

May be some coalition formed during Alexander invasion but not often..

Having said this - I like akhand Bharat
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Farmer:

oka unifying force lekapothe, india would have been no different...oka 20 countries vundevi sub continent loo, fighting with eac other....just like middle east, africa...etc....




middle east, africa ilage enduku avvali? europe laga avvadu ani guarantee enti? europe lo kuda world war2 mundu varaki kottukuntane unnaru kada? manavi one of the best brains- so afrika comparison wrong.... inka middle east antava manam brutal/barbarious kadu by nature, good bad or ugly that's what our civilization taught us humility, patience.....we can never be middle east....

now prove me why we cant be another europe if british were not in game......We were rich in arts look at the hoysalas, hampis, ajantas-the classical music of south and north indias....we were good at astronomy, maths, medicine.......we would have learnt the things, in our respective mother tongues like in europe instead of foreign language.

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Lt General SK Sinha, former Governor of Jammu & Kashmir and Assam, one of the only three Indian officers posted in the Directorate of Military Operations in New Delhi in 1946, made this observation in 1976. “There was considerable sympathy for the INA within the Army… It is true that fears of another 1857 had begun to haunt the British in 1946.â€

Agreeing with this contention were a number of British MPs who met British Prime Minister Clement Attlee in February 1946. “There are two alternative ways of meeting this common desire (a) that we should arrange to get out, (b) that we should wait to be driven out. In regard to (b), the loyalty of the Indian Army is open to question; the INA have become national heroes…â€
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Ambedkar continued: “The national army that was raised by Subhas Chandra Bose. The British had been ruling the country in the firm belief that whatever may happen in the country or whatever the politicians do, they will never be able to change the loyalty of soldiers. That was one prop on which they were carrying on the administration. And that was completely dashed to pieces. They found that soldiers could be seduced to form a party — a battalion to blow off the British.â€
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http://swarajyamag.com/politics/bose-not-gandhi-ended-britis h-rule-in-india-ambedkar/
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nee point thoo agree avvakapothe, i got my onfo from romella thapar anukovatam nee moorkathvam.....


arre .. dont get frustrated yaa .. ninnemi analedu personal ga .. mana vistory saduvul designed by romilla kabatti avida feru teesanu .. mana saduvula root meeda focus etta anthe ..
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bcoz .. Romella Thapar, Wendy Doniger said so!


nee point thoo agree avvakapothe, i got my onfo from romella thapar anukovatam nee moorkathvam.....i can easily say that u got your twisted info from idiots like godse or togadia....

piece of land ante just a piece of barren land ani kaadhu.....adhi malli oka logic aaa.....piece of land means a piece of land along with it's inhabitants....anyways, out of this thread now....jai akhand bharath....whatever it means!
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all Hindu kings who ruled India once, knew of below verse:
Jambu dweepe, bharatha varshe, bharatha khande......

It's only logical to assume kings would have fought to become that emperor who 're-established bharatha khanda.... School lo ala cheppaledu so nammam ante your wish.....
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200 yrs mundhu vachhunte. vellipodam can be any time. may be 100 yrs before.


How does it really matter? Mughal loot badulu, British loot. Manaki same kada bokka. Naaku aithe teda em kanipinchatledu scenario lo. Alanti what if situations 100s unnayi! but not this one really.
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200 yrs mundhu vachhunte. vellipodam can be any time. may be 100 yrs before.
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everyone fought for a piece of land so they could rule over a bigger kingdom...


bigger is better anukunte .. there were many low picking fruits like those useless desert regions on west of Indus .. wet swamp lands and hills/forests on the east of Brahmaputra .. they could have done that if it was just about land .. no .. it wasnt about land .. it was always about people .. I can cite 100s of examples .. but Shivaji, Maharana Pratap, Maharaja Ranjit Singh would do .. they went out of their way .. to alleviate suffering people in far away, but still were our people/lands ..

Thikka_sankara:

Which present day nations are nations as is since time eternal?? Adedo only India ki jarginattu and adi britishodi daya anattu chepthunnsruga....


bcoz .. Romella Thapar, Wendy Doniger said so!
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Which present day nations are nations as is since time eternal?? Adedo only India ki jarginattu and adi britishodi daya anattu chepthunnsruga....


Also, it'd be wrong to say that India is surviving only because it got freedom in nonviolent ways..... Amlica won via a revolution and is perfectly stable.....on the other hand Pakistan also got independence just as India got, nonviolently.....and how are they faring???
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personal conflicts/ambitions kuda untayi manushulaki though primordial identity is Akhand Bharat/Hindu Rajyam/India .. whatever name you give it .. that doesnt deny the existence of a pan-Indian identity ..


ok, that's your opinion....the way I read history, India subcontinent had numerous kingdoms for thousand of years, and they all fought among themselves.....Hindu kings fought with hindus and muslims,,,muslim kings fought other muslims and hindus...europeans fought with hindu kings, muslim kings and among themselves (british, french, dutch, portugese etc)....everyone fought for a piece of land so they could rule over a bigger kingdom... they did not fight for any "pan indian identity". It's not "Indians vs Others"...never was.
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tilak bhayya. nacho doubt eppudu . if brits might have some some 200 yrs earlier. what would have been the fate of india. better or even worse.


question ardam kaledu .. 200 years mundu vachunte na? 200 years mundu vellipoyunte na?
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identity




idi correct point
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If everyone was fighting for "India", why did we have wars between vijayanagara kingdom and gajapathis or between the different rajput states?


personal conflicts/ambitions kuda untayi manushulaki though primordial identity is Akhand Bharat/Hindu Rajyam/India .. whatever name you give it .. that doesnt deny the existence of a pan-Indian identity ..
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Tilak:

really? Musurnuri Nayaks fought for India or just their kingdom? Krishna Devaraya? Shivaji?

Shivaji kingdom gurinchi matrame poradithe .. ekkado Panipat daka enduku veltaru Marathas? Maharashtra tho enjoy maadi ane vaaru ga ..

Chola .. Ganga teeram touch chese laa enduku expand authadu? Maharana Pratap? nee lekka prakaram aithe .. they should be happy with Tamil Nadu and Punjab .. but no .. they fought for people beyond their lands ..


LOL...They did not fight for people beyond their lands....Kings always fought to expand their kingdoms or to regain their lost territories....that's all! Marathas fought in panipat becase the mughal emperor of that time was a vassal of the Marathas, and it was very poor judgement on their part to fight ahmed shah abdali when he was already retreating back to afghanistan. They took a foolish decision and abdali finished the great maratha army in a single day, went back and never returned. British grabbed that opportunity with both hands, that's all. No king fought for "India". Prithviraj chauhan fought for Delhi....Rana pratap and rana sanga for rajputana....musunuri nayaks for telugu lands...etc...etc....If everyone was fighting for "India", why did we have wars between vijayanagara kingdom and gajapathis or between the different rajput states?
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same British or western countries vallu map lu geesi deshalu ga chesina countries enduku atta edisayi


very valid question .. :-)
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all credit goes to Britishers antaaru

same British or western countries vallu map lu geesi deshalu ga chesina countries enduku atta edisayi

starting from Middle East, Africa, Yogalsavia, etc etc etc
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i'm not insulting them....The point is that they fought for their respective kingdoms, not for India or an imaginary "akhand bharath"!!


really? Musurnuri Nayaks fought for India or just their kingdom? Krishna Devaraya? Shivaji?

Shivaji kingdom gurinchi matrame poradithe .. ekkado Panipat daka enduku veltaru Marathas? Maharashtra tho enjoy maadi ane vaaru ga ..

Chola .. Ganga teeram touch chese laa enduku expand authadu? Maharana Pratap? nee lekka prakaram aithe .. they should be happy with Tamil Nadu and Punjab .. but no .. they fought for people beyond their lands ..
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what is this Unifying Force anede question?



Farmer:

Gandhi..... and Brits who unified the sub continent for their own benefit are responsible for that....eee partition meedha edavatam, akhanda bharat etc antha sollu....


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for every one traitor .. we have had millions of selfless patriots who defended the country with their lives!! dont insult them and their sacrifices!!


i'm not insulting them....The point is that they fought for their respective kingdoms, not for India or an imaginary "akhand bharath"!!
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figurehead or not state spends millions of dollars on them so they are kingdom countries. EU type lo indian subcontinent lo kuda a lane vundevallu is my point.


Denmark, Nepal, UK, China, Saudi, Cuba .. different models .. yet they are countries in my view ..

alage .. in the context .. India, Japan, China, Egypt, Greece, Italy, Persia .. countries formed 1000s of years ago .. and each of them followed their own destinies!! yet .. cant deny them to be countries due to nation-state, democracy, federalism etc definitions .. avi anni frivolous points naa book lo ..
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oka unifying force lekapothe




what is this Unifying Force anede question?
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Middle East racha still continues from thousands of years


exactly....arabs atleast speak the same language...indians don't...and arabs have the same religion....indians don't....oka unifying force lekapothe, india would have been no different...oka 20 countries vundevi sub continent loo, fighting with eac other....just like middle east, africa...etc....delhi british vaadu raaka mundu 700/800 years turakolla chethullo vundhi....and u guys talk about akhand bharath...
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prathi war loo evadoo "manode" ennupot esaadu....


for every one traitor .. we have had millions of selfless patriots who defended the country with their lives!! dont insult them and their sacrifices!!
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Republic of India Vs Kingdom of Denmark; hope you get the difference.
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UK, Spain, Denmark democracies ee ga .. when I last checked .. though they have figure head queens .. so nuvve cheppali avi desalo kaado .. naa lekkalo democracy unna .. lekapoyina kuda .. country is a country ..


figurehead or not state spends millions of dollars on them so they are kingdom countries. EU type lo indian subcontinent lo kuda a lane vundevallu is my point.
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from the second battle of tarain to the third battle of panipat and beyond, we lost every crucial war to the invaders....and prathi war loo evadoo "manode" ennupot esaadu....lol.....after all that.....ippudu manaki vunna country chala pedhadhi...we should be grateful for that.....Gandhi and Brits who unified the sub continent for their own benefit are responsible for that....eee partition meedha edavatam, akhanda bharat etc antha sollu....




Ilantivi mana okka chote ledu prapancha charitra mottam alane untundi

Bismarck vache daka Germany lo more than 30 kingdoms who fought against each other

same with Italy and other countires

Middle East racha still continues from thousands of years
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ante UK, spain, denmark etc lu desalu kada?


UK, Spain, Denmark democracies ee ga .. when I last checked .. though they have figure head queens .. so nuvve cheppali avi desalo kaado .. naa lekkalo democracy unna .. lekapoyina kuda .. country is a country ..
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democracy untene desam .. lekapothe ledu ani ..


ante UK, spain, denmark etc lu desalu kada?
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India is historically a Hindu state ani kodaa manam oppukolem prasthutham vunna pseudo secular bhaavajaalam lo.


Alaantidhi. . INDIA ante oka border lo vunna current state kaadhu oka babilonian oka messapotamian culture laagaa oka hindu culture adhi ippudu vunna current border plus some other surrounding areas lo vistharinchi vundedhi ani chepthe maathram em oppukuntaam ....


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Akand Bharat ki pitch prepare chesthunnava




from the second battle of tarain to the third battle of panipat and beyond, we lost every crucial war to the invaders....and prathi war loo evadoo "manode" ennupot esaadu....lol.....after all that.....ippudu manaki vunna country chala pedhadhi...we should be grateful for that.....Gandhi and Brits who unified the sub continent for their own benefit are responsible for that....eee partition meedha edavatam, akhanda bharat etc antha sollu....
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nothing wrong in your beliefs le


my beliefs are not set in stone .. democracy untene desam .. lekapothe ledu ani .. :-)
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tilak bhayya. nacho doubt eppudu . if brits might have some some 200 yrs earlier. what would have been the fate of india. better or even worse.
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mari dont measure that to say whether a country exists on not based on that .. bcoz .. desam ante prajatantram kaadoy .. desam ante manushuloy .. annadu mahakavi ..


lol… someone wants to believe in 6000 year old world so nothing wrong in your beliefs le so continue. Akand Bharat ki jai
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aa .. aa .. alage .. jail periyaru ..


keshav thackeray's agenda was no different from periyar......but manaki bal thackeray nachuthadu saffron esthadu kabatti, dmk vallu nacharu black estharu kabatti.....
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Which is true no? Democracy itself is a very new concept.


mari dont measure that to say whether a country exists on not based on that .. bcoz .. desam ante prajatantram kaadoy .. desam ante manushuloy .. annadu mahakavi .. :D
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here were no countries on some 300 years ago .. but thats no factual .. there were always people and countries .. only forms of organization and rules of business changed ..


Which is true no? Democracy itself is a very new concept.
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the land east of Sindhu river is always India from BC era

baa cheppana
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Fact is what I said.


frank ga matladukundaam .. entire Independence movement lo .. right from Bose to Gandhi to Alluri to Sawarkar to Patel .. evaraina okkallaina .. let us form "India" annara? .. let us get release Bharata Mata from slavery to Brits annara? if what you said was a fact .. there were no countries on some 300 years ago .. but thats no factual .. there were always people and countries .. only forms of organization and rules of business changed ..

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aa .. aa .. alage .. jail periyaru ..
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Tilak:

What was East India company formed in 1400s?


ashokudu chetlu natinchindi eppudu...
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first agree to facts and logic ..


Fact is what I said. Logic antava just like how it was a motley group of kingdoms then so it is now, just that it is bounded by the nation-state concept.
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first agree to facts and logic .. :D
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nation-state concept is very recent .. aa new concept ni retrospective ga apply cheyyadam correcte na? if thats the case .. Japan didnt exist 200 years ago? China 70 years ago? no .. thats not how it should be seen .. political sense kaadu kavalsindi .. civilizational sense .. cultural sense .. people to people contact, trade and business.


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What he meant was that India was not a "nation state" in the modern political sense. Only with the Brits coming, did we coalesce together as a nation state.


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What he meant was that India was not a "nation state" in the modern political sense. Only with the Brits coming, did we coalesce together as a nation state.


nation-state concept is very recent .. aa new concept ni retrospective ga apply cheyyadam correcte na? if thats the case .. Japan didnt exist 200 years ago? China 70 years ago? no .. thats not how it should be seen .. political sense kaadu kavalsindi .. civilizational sense .. cultural sense .. people to people contact, trade and business.
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Tilak:

What was East India company formed in 1400s?




What he meant was that India was not a "nation state" in the modern political sense. Only with the Brits coming, did we coalesce together as a nation state.
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Tilak:

What was East India company formed in 1400s?


http://www.ancient.eu/article/203/
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There was no India then.


What was East India company formed in 1400s?
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There was no India then



Exactly. ...
Current divisive Pakistan strategy is also the same... They say there is no India then.

(Including me)mana laanti baavajaalam.... Mana laanti kottuku chaavatam. .. Mana laagaa history and values meedha respect lekapovatam valla... caste fanatics... inkaa enno reasons valla ne nenu oka chinna statement lo cheppaa.... easy to divide now the ever ani.
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It's easy to divide India now than say 400 yrs pr even 100 years ago....


There was no India then.
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It's easy to divide India now than say 400 yrs pr even 100 years ago....

Sad but truth.

It reflects everywhere in India
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edhi emainaa violence thoo india ki independence vachi vunte, it would have been extremely difficult to keep india intact...we would have seen several civil wars... ani naa yokka adhi....therein lies the greatness of mahatma...In 20's and early 30's when everyone was pushing congress to fight for "self rule", he refused to take up that slogan, because he firmly believed that Indians are not ready to rule themselves, yet....he concentrated on unifying indians ....or atleast hindus...... he was a great visionary.....

bose, nehru, patel etc...may be great in their own way, but gandhi kurrod mundhu jujubis...yes, i'm telling thattt





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You are conflating two different things - Nehru peddha ulfa gadu, okay..Gandhi 1939 Congress president lo Bose elect ayyaka thokkesad, okay.....but politics/ companies lo ivvani common...antha mathrana elli opposition lo cheyi kalipatam enti...and just because he got thrown out by Gandhi does not mean you elevate him to a martyr, ...Patel ki Gandhi/ Nehru tho differences unnayi. But paripoledhe...

Patel, Tilak, Bhagat Singh, Azad, Alluri, ila chala mandhi untaru Bose level lo...ee Bongs overhyped figure ee Bose..


Bose matram ekkada paripoyadu? Eella mushti politics choosi .. ee paddati baledu .. naa dova nenu chusukunta ani formed INA .. and immensely successful at that .. eellu gaajulu thodukkuni .. biccham adukkuni 1942 lo peekalenidi .. Bose charyala dwara British Raj ni weaken chesi 1946 mutiny ki daari teesadu .. ultimately resulting in Independence .. so supreme level lo ne unnadu Bose already ..

I dont know what bad blood you have with Bongs .. but Bose ki "level" okallu ivvakkarledu .. tana tyagalu/dare-devilry dwaara sampadinchukunnadu .. and yes .. oka Alluri oka Bhagat oka Bose .. more than Gandhi/Nehru level lo ne untaru .. if not equal ..
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Bhagat Singh, Azad, Alluri,


veellallo evaru oka organized effort cheyyaledu.....just like Gandhi led organized non violent movement, Bose is the first and last (at least after 1900) to lead a organized movement....just eee fact teesukunna Gandhi and Bose are comparable, just that one failed and other succeded....

Now, why so much hype ante, almost Gandhi range vyakthi gurinchina info ni how successive govts handled/mishandled valla ochina oka hype.... anushka and viratd or saif and kareena ad untundI shampoo dI, daachukodaaniki emlenappudu choopinchadaaniki chala untundi ani....on those lines, why secrecy, why commissions whose reports are secrets, why surveillances whose purposes are secrets, why so many secret files whose destinies are secret (destroyed or not).....
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fikileaks,
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parama sollu thed .. without considering the fact that Gandhi and Nehru joint ga tokkesaru (inka pacchi ga matladithe edicharu) Bose ni .. democratic ga president ga elect aina Bose ki co-operate cheyyakunda sissiness choopinchi .. 1940s daka independence ani adagakunda brits good books lo ekki .. Quit India udyamanni em sadhinchakundane Quit chesi .. 100 rakala politics chesi .. chivaraki desam lo 1/3 bhagam vadulukuni kuda PM aipodaniki siddam avvadam kante selfish panulu aithe cheyyaledu Bose ..

chavatalu evaru sahakarinchakapoina sontham ga INA lanti army ni tayaru chesi .. poradi odadu .. due to geo-politics .. polika enti .. okaru swardhaniki prarootam aithe .. Bose tyaganiki maro peru ..




You are conflating two different things - Nehru peddha ulfa gadu, okay..Gandhi 1939 Congress president lo Bose elect ayyaka thokkesad, okay.....but politics/ companies lo ivvani common...antha mathrana elli opposition lo cheyi kalipatam enti...and just because he got thrown out by Gandhi does not mean you elevate him to a martyr, ...Patel ki Gandhi/ Nehru tho differences unnayi. But paripoledhe...

Patel, Tilak, Bhagat Singh, Azad, Alluri, ila chala mandhi untaru Bose level lo...ee Bongs overhyped figure ee Bose..
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prarootam


pratiroopam
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parama sollu thed .. without considering the fact that Gandhi and Nehru joint ga tokkesaru (inka pacchi ga matladithe edicharu) Bose ni .. democratic ga president ga elect aina Bose ki co-operate cheyyakunda sissiness choopinchi .. 1940s daka independence ani adagakunda brits good books lo ekki .. Quit India udyamanni em sadhinchakundane Quit chesi .. 100 rakala politics chesi .. chivaraki desam lo 1/3 bhagam vadulukuni kuda PM aipodaniki siddam avvadam kante selfish panulu aithe cheyyaledu Bose ..

chavatalu evaru sahakarinchakapoina sontham ga INA lanti army ni tayaru chesi .. poradi odadu .. due to geo-politics .. polika enti .. okaru swardhaniki prarootam aithe .. Bose tyaganiki maro peru ..
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Quit India Movement range almost Panja, Bobby, andhrawala type adi

daaniki ichina build up tho compare cheste mana daggara INA ki ichina build up chala takkuva
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he would come back, part the Ganga and take them to their promised land where hilsa and mustard abound




Heyyyyy, ee tone baagundi. continue continue.
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Britisher did not care a hoot about gandhi after 1942... also nehru did not care about him either after 1947 aug 15th..
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He was the one who created fear in British as the armies started rebelling against the British

1857 taruvata army people rebelling start chesing malli Bose centre stage teesukunnake

To be frank not in a negative sense, general dyer gaani jalian wala bagh mida enta tittukunna akkada firing chesindi Indian soldiers e kaada

same with any other firing or killing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Indian_Navy_mutiny

Deenitho baaga shake ayyaru, Mutiny cheyyadanni congress vallu teevranga khandicharu

adi mana paristhiti aa time lo

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060212/spectrum/main2.htm

This is what Atlee told officially

kakapothe mana books lo Quit India Movement (utter flop bomma) ki sahe ayyi independence icharu ani untundi anthe
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our ind.movement is more about india creating society, which respects values of democracy and freedom & unification of country.



The reason we struggle with insecurity is because we compare our behind-the-scenes with everyone else’s highlight reel.
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edhi emainaa violence thoo india ki independence vachi vunte, it would have been extremely difficult to keep india intact...we would have seen several civil wars... ani naa yokka adhi....therein lies the greatness of mahatma...In 20's and early 30's when everyone was pushing congress to fight for "self rule", he refused to take up that slogan, because he firmly believed that Indians are not ready to rule themselves, yet....he concentrated on unifying indians ....or atleast hindus...... he was a great visionary.....

bose, nehru, patel etc...may be great in their own way, but gandhi kurrod mundhu jujubis...yes, i'm telling thattt
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Darth_vader:

our independence movement itself is over rated. British ollaki manage cheyyatam kastaam ayyi it was given kaani we didn't earn it.



our ind.movement is more about india creating society, which respects values of democracy and freedom & unification of country.
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece
1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP.
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our independence movement itself is over rated. British ollaki manage cheyyatam kastaam ayyi it was given kaani we didn't earn it.
The reason we struggle with insecurity is because we compare our behind-the-scenes with everyone else’s highlight reel.
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Farmer:

ahalya, amayakuralu idharu kaadhu...ahalyee amayakuraalu



saint, marshal iddaru kadu.. saint ye marshal antunnava?
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece
1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP.
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it is all the fish they eat...don't want to elaborate further...



no sir... we want elaboration on this..
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece
1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP.
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Thikka_sankara:

Oka org laaga attempt chesaadu.... good or bad pakkan a pedithe his efforts are commebndable no???




Commendable ye, ayithe oka commendation award, or jury award iddam. Anthe kaani ee pedestalising enti, bose lanti vallu oka 25-50 mandhi anna untaru...


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adi tinadam valle bong papulu antha hottu ang ghatu ani peddal sepparu




No man...it is all the fish they eat...don't want to elaborate further...


Farmer:

casette abuse




Attention to detail ante idhe
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Nehru & Gandhi ey overrated malli danto Bose overrated AAA ante off course all historical figures are that. As time goes by only the good is remembered and jobless people do a good work at churning out hageograpic pieces.
The reason we struggle with insecurity is because we compare our behind-the-scenes with everyone else’s highlight reel.
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Over rated enti mastaaru.... To each his own.... Anyway, Indian freedom struggle two paths laa divide chesthe, armed struggle lo unification ledu, every fight was individual fight.... Oka org laaga attempt chesaadu.... good or bad pakkan a pedithe his efforts are commebndable no???
keka link:

fikileaks,
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bong papulu


casette abuse
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seema food lo goddu karam, guntur mirchi ghaatu ante naaaku padadu..
deeniki malla statement okati.. (AD brahmi)


ahalya, amayakuralu idharu kaadhu...ahalyee amayakuraalu
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bong food loo mustard content matram 2much i say...nasty...cannottt


adi tinadam valle bong papulu antha hottu ang ghatu ani peddal sepparu
Man who fishes in other man's well often catches crabs.
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Farmer:

bong food loo mustard content matram 2much i say...nasty...cannottt




seema food lo goddu karam, guntur mirchi ghaatu ante naaaku padadu..
deeniki malla statement okati.. (AD brahmi)
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece
1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP.
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bong food loo mustard content matram 2much i say...nasty...cannottt
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X34:

Bose headphones and speakers are overrated and over priced. Yes I am saying that.


true annai..dantlo 1/4 price ke manchivi vastunnayi
OT review on Osaravell: Paatallo ayithe okko saari Micheal jackson videos ki Jr.NTR thala emanna athikinchaaraa anipinchindhi naaku....literal ga shocking ga vunnaayi konni steps ayithe.....so called heroes ayithe ee cinema teesinanni rojulu practice chesi vundaali
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/20150210/5172520/chandrababu-naidu-dance-yoga-o.gif
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Filmbuff:

part the Ganga and take them to their promised land where hilsa and mustard abound.


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Bose headphones and speakers are overrated and over priced. Yes I am saying that.
Man who fishes in other man's well often catches crabs.
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Asalu ee SC Bose ki intha scene deniki, sare most of us hate Nehru, that does not necessarily mean that Bose is put on par with Nehru, Gandhi etc...chesindi pichcha naa amateurish panulu, daniki malla patriotism cuttings deniki...

Ee yedhava Bengali lobby and media created hype idhi antha ani naa idhi...almost until the 90s the Bongs felt that he was alive and he would come back, part the Ganga and take them to their promised land where hilsa and mustard abound. Idhe mana Telugu vaadu chesthe, choose vaadu undadu...

Ika kottukoni savandi