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ivi anni jarige pani kadu kani couple of things change avvali election system lo...

1. No bielections...even if someone passes away governor should appoint, i agree it would be misuse by center but atleast less burden on people.

2. if someone resigns or jumps they should automatically loose position and party in which he hails from could appoint anyone for rest of the term..again saves money for people.

3. direct election of PM/CM/Mayor coz party system coz good people can contest and make a difference...ex kejri gadiki ee mla lu etc lolli lekapothe he can do better anni na opinion may be wrong...
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Wellsfargo:

The voice of the remaining 3/4th population is ignored.


ippudu nuvvu cheppina system lo more than 70% voting jarugutunda?

Wellsfargo:

vote bank politics etc penchi poshisthunnaru...


kaadu analedu ga .. anduke .. "if only it can eliminate bad politicians before parliament and assembly elections itself" antunna .. better is restricting the number of political parties to two or three .. whats the point of having so many million parties and yet not being able to achieve political stability and efficiency in the system?
Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in
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Tilak:

the current system is good .. if only it can eliminate non-leaders from parliament/assembly contests .. and how can we do that? if you want to register a party with EC .. you have to clearly submit why you need a separate political party other than the recognized ones and which political party has denied to accommodate those principles .. and if the party which did not accommodate should be de-recognized ..




current system good ani ela antavu. 70% polling jarigithe good polling antunnamu. andulo multi cornered fights lo 35% vote share vacchina vaadu gelusthunnadu each constituency lo. which means almost 25% of the voters istam tho gelusthunnadu. all we need is 1 in 4 people ane thought vacche tappatiki politicians are try to create a mass hysteria lo influence one fourth of people to win elections. The voice of the remaining 3/4th population is ignored. vote bank politics etc penchi poshisthunnaru...
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Tilak:

Bad Idea ..



bad antaventi annai worst.....
i am leading a pious life so far so good
new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela?
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its clash of personalities. modi is model of governace etc... not every time, we will be able to get candidate like modi na... infact this is the kind of system, that generates indira/modi/hitler etc... both good and bad.


ade cheptunna .. the current system is good .. if only it can eliminate non-leaders from parliament/assembly contests .. and how can we do that? if you want to register a party with EC .. you have to clearly submit why you need a separate political party other than the recognized ones and which political party has denied to accommodate those principles .. and if the party which did not accommodate should be de-recognized ..

lekapothe Kasani Gnaneshwar kuda party pette vaade .. and lands kabza, panchayiti lu, contracts cheyyadam .. such a non-sense ..
Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in
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Tilak:

whats the point of so many parties, when they all stand for almost the same "principles"?



true. party is just platform to showcase ur leadership. long gone are the parties with distinct ideologies
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece
1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP.
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Tilak:

these were the best elections fought in India in a long while .. though it can be portrayed as a clash of personalities .. never in India before, has there been such a big clash of principles .. can you think of any other time??




its clash of personalities. modi is model of governace etc... not every time, we will be able to get candidate like modi na... infact this is the kind of system, that generates indira/modi/hitler etc... both good and bad.
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece
1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP.
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Boston_baba:

parties


asalu US type lo restrict cheyyali parties ni (atleast parliaments and assemblies), lekapothe district ki oka party level nunchi, mandal ki oka party daka vellipotunnayi .. whats the point of so many parties, when they all stand for almost the same "principles"?

Boston_baba:

this 2014 elections became more like modi vs rahul.


these were the best elections fought in India in a long while .. though it can be portrayed as a clash of personalities .. never in India before, has there been such a big clash of principles .. can you think of any other time??
Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in
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Tilak:

One man show parties




this is the biggest downside of this scheme... already with media coverage, this 2014 elections became more like modi vs rahul.

in our current society and governance, we are not lacked by systems and party ideologies. we are lacked by people with values.
so, person manchoda kaada ani chusi vote veste, automatic ga change vastadi.
manam chustunna problems anni, industriaists/rowdy sheeters/opportunists etc.. gelavadam valle.. vallu gelichindi kuda, party gurthu lo gumpu lo govinda type....
okasari history observe cheste, win ayina independent candidates tend to have clean bg, comapared to winners from parties. ikkada parties evadiki padite vadiki ticket ivvadame problem... proportional representation lo thats even bigger probelm.

sorry for verbose
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece
1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP.
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Well,

Idi LS Party kosama??
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Wellsfargo:

how do you make sure their vote gets a value..


regular ward/constituency delimitation/reorganization jaragali, every 10 years .. anthe tappa .. high commands ni inka powerful cheyyadam valla emi laabham ledu common man ki .. ippudu manaki unna democratic system lo ..
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Tilak:

Bad Idea .. One man show parties ki kavalsindi ide .. more chances of only "more influential candidates" being the representatives .. than real cadre .. basic ga .. high commands ni inka inka powerful chestunnaru deeni valla ..




Bhayya there are sections of people who never got a chance to voice their concerns. Old city lo "chandu lal bela" lo unde hindus ippati varaku vote vesina veyyaka poyina waste. how do you make sure their vote gets a value..
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Bad Idea .. One man show parties ki kavalsindi ide .. more chances of only "more influential candidates" being the representatives .. than real cadre .. basic ga .. high commands ni inka inka powerful chestunnaru deeni valla ..
Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in
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Boston_baba:

how do we make sure that, parties pick right candidates after winning elections?
if i don't have representative like currently, whom should i contact for my problems?




ward member untadu.. just that it will not only be elected by your people but from every where else. Idi state level lo kastam. Oka city level ki aithe okay ne.
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how do we make sure that, parties pick right candidates after winning elections?
if i don't have representative like currently, whom should i contact for my problems?
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/article41814.ece
1991- AP debt 22% of GSDP, 2004 - 34% of GSDP, 2014 - 22% of GSDP.
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Evadiki vote vesaro telyadu annamata voter ki , cadiate ki basic ga vote koukkune hakku ni kala rasthunaru
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We at FDR are rooting for changing the elections for the GHMC corporators to a different system. This is a proportional representation system. according to this the following will happen.
1. we will have 200 ward members in GHMC.
2. every voter will vote for a party and not for an individual.
3. Each party will submit a list of 200 candidates in the order of priority before the elections.
4. after the elections, each party will be allocated wards proportional to the votes they get.

advantages:
1. No need of pre-poll alliances
2. every vote will have value(ex: few sections of people in old city never had value for their votes in last 60 years)
3. Defections will stop. In case of a member resigning, next member in the order of priority will get a chance.

disadvantage:
1. Independents will have little chance of making it.
2. courts may quash it as it is experimental.

Please let me know if you have any feedback on this..
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