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     Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8025 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.246.184.141 Rating: N/A |
i dont think more tha 1GW can be produced from the proposed project. but higher power can be generated by ditching the whole project by building 4-5 check dams at high altitudes. that does also not exceed 1.5 gigawatt and this view concurs with cheif engineer hanumantharao. in this particular design, stabilization of krishna delta will not be possible as we cannot transfer considerable amount of water from those check dams. power generation is not only about inflow or the capacity, it is always about how mch pressure does it exert on the nozzle of the turbine to initiate the movement of the blades inorder to generate power. for maximum efficiency and higher power generation the total water body mass should be crippled and congested in a area so that maximum pressure is generated. if you observe projects you will see that behind the spillways you ll see concrete convex or concave barriers choking up the water into the penstock . that is where head comes into the picture. with more storage the water down gets supressed and more pressure/thrust generated will bring out more effieciency. if you can check out reaction and impulse turbines, you can see the major differences all related to head. power generation not only depends on inflow geography and ability to sustain in the long run also comes into the picture. the discharge related problems are also a major concern. the problem with 3 gorges discharge and riverbed issues okasari asduvu vunkl. happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8767 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
idiga simple explanation why head not required for more power...... 1)turbine blades ni penstock nunchi vacche water impach chestundi which inturn movies by impact and turbine runs 2)force exerted on turbine is f=row*a*v2/g(son angle) dantlo a is area of c/s of blade angle manam adjust chestam miglilindi velocity v...... 3)nuvvu cheppina head is required when floq rate is pretty low for pelton wheels..... 4)anni lakhs cusecs unte automatic ga maximum capacity of turbines with maximum velocity is reached ..... 5)so maximym power...... head does not play its role here ..... pelton wheel lo head incresed for higher potentail energy so that it can be converted to kinetic energr when required by falling head more velocity is reached.... hope this solves all doubts....... i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8766 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
valid for frances and kaplan turbines only i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8765 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
need not be the case nen first nunchi chebtondi ide.....polavaram lo 6 months kavalsina flow untadi remaing 6 months ki nuvvu cheppinattu yekkuva capacity unte best lekapote idle gha undali...... simple terms lo 1)water enters from penstock into turbine 2)water passes through runner/blades and goes out 3)tail race..... power=torque*angular velocity which means power=q/g(diff in velocity of wanes/blades) ante power is directly proportional to flow rate ane ga???? from july/august to december flow near polavaram is minimum of 1lakh cusecs..... and 3-4 months it will be of order 20-25lakh cusecs....... so aa time lo cheapest power produce cheskovacchu max with out increasing capacity of dam...... migata ime from january to june flow undadu....so idle ga untayi appud small trrbines of 80mw as planned tho left,right bank ki pampistu we can gen power.... and aa 6 months/migilina months kuda ee 400-800mw turbines run avvalante dam capacity double cheyyali in lame terms idi correct thing i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8024 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.246.184.141 Rating: N/A |
only formulas nunchi mathramey dams design cheyyar raja. soil test and inflows over a 60 year period gauge sethar. taking account into the recent decade. happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8023 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.246.184.141 Rating: N/A |
thotti poo argument aaa kikiki. simple question nagarjun sagar ki srisailam ki difference cheppu, why hydro electricity generated in srisailam is more than in sagar. heights lo koda theda enduku undo mundu telusuko, topology and regions gurunchi koda telusuko. happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8022 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.246.184.141 Rating: N/A |
what i meant is the silt considerably reduces the pressure the water flow into the penstock because uneven levels of the base. happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8021 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.246.184.141 Rating: N/A |
ekkuva power generate cheyyali antey water storage ekkuva vundali. water storage ekkuva undali antey head ekkuva vundali. antey backwater area expand avuddi. first nunchi mothukunedi adey. fancis is a reaction turbine which acts on implse action tooo. for maximum efficiency it needs more pressure. you already know how pressure works. there is no threshold point on storage as the inflow will not be consistant. in this very case you cannot gauge the exact inflow can only take the average. to just produce more electricity you cannot risk the lifes of crores. happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Rowdy Legend Username: Rowdy Post Number: 33406 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 166.137.10.47 Rating: N/A |
Abbo chala info undi eeda ... Vp, tolu p etc words edit chesthe | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8764 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
turbine is another aid of relesing water ane basc marichipoyi chala pedda rgument chestunnav.... back water ki watter stammer ki and turbine dwara back water ane kotta concept testunnav.....srisailam lo hydroelectricity gen cheste backwater decrese avudda increse avudda???? nagarjun sar lo hyro electricity cheste water decrese avudda increse avudda??? pedda turbines pettara same capacity tho flow undi kada ante nuvvu yem cheptunnav???? totti poo arguments chesi solid proof lekunda vacchinpakkolladi totti poo argument antunnav lol i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8763 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
silt pressure does not effect flow considrabilly it effects dam capacity and pressure on dam ......silt pressure perige koddi water pressure tagguddi as water storage capacity tagguddi...... i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8762 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
v2/2g+y+z=v2/2g+y+z+c.....and q=av..........nenu neek icchina equations nunche dams and turbines design chestaru.... give me a proof for your argument.....i will give if you fail to giove for my argument.......dot i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8761 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
asala turbine lo hyro electric gen ki yekkado down stream lo vadiki mudipettama yeti asala ???? correct argument is flow unde 5-6months turines work chestai migata time lo idle ga untayi due to less capacity/storage...... ante kani ee turbines pedite vadiki effect avvatam yenti??? dams design chesedi annitini accomidate cheskotanike......anni tmcs of water ,silt ni mose dam 12 turbines ni correct ga design cheste easy ga fit avvuddi..... bodigundiki mokalki mudipettinattu undi.....come with sound argument i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8760 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
yenti idi basics aa sare ayite spill way mooste vacche back water yekkuva turbine mooste vacchedi yekkuva turbine chute dwara backwater is negligible ..... ayina pressure relaese kosam ye dam kuda design cheyyadu nuvvu cheppe turbine pressure and spill way pressure valla low lying area lo zero diff makes after several kms..... but yekkada important oo telusa dam relese chese water and chute dwra vacche water discplace ayye vicinity......aa area lo scoiuring jarigi foundation effect avvocchu thats why you keep hydralic jump....basic basic ani nijamaina basics ni marchestunnav.... nuvvu cheppe argument ki proof yedi....nenu cheppedi valid proof opted in dams nuvvu cheppevi yekkada valid yekkada use chesaru..... asala 10s of kms dooram lo unde prantaniki ee turbine pressure effect yenti asala???? area perigite velocity tagguddani equation kuda iccha kada asala what are trying to say ??? i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8020 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.245.99.146 Rating: N/A |
exactly more pressure more electricity generated and more pressure released downstream through spillways though may be less than the pressure into the turbines . basics thammudu. silt pressure is another thing which effects the flow. happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8019 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.245.99.146 Rating: N/A |
lol penstock dwara turbines loki water velthey release valves dwara water exert avuddi . with that short head the pressure will be high. as always there will be flow and the region being live you are supposed release most of the spillways all the time. the head being the difference btw the height of the source and outflow. where the height is less your head ill be low and pressure will be high. if you increase the sources height the backwater area expands. basics telusukoo raja. oorike thol poo arguments seyyak. happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8757 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
malli pressure annav ani antav ani cheptunna..... pressure experted on dan is on upstream by 2 ways..... 1)water stored valla 2)silt pressure water pressure ni ante nuvvu flow ki addam ga unnav kabatti/dam kattav kabatti you will experiance pressure.....but danike spill way is designed to relive flow......ante kani turbines valla extrea pressure to water povatam anedi matram nen sadivina FM>E&FE,WRE lo ayite ledu mari........ i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8756 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
tadu bongaram lekunda arguments chesunnav ..... i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8755 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
basic thing yento telusa turbines use 12-24kcusecs flow rate .....nuvvu spillway lo gate ippite laks of cuses tho kuda vadultav inka pressure ane concept yenti???? rivers lo pressure ane concept dam structure varake untadi.....migata river lo unde concept flow rate ante Q which i mentioned by equation q=av.....which is one of basic equations of dam construction/any river flow /canal construction.... i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8754 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
yettetta yendidi asal yensidi???? papikondal deggara 300mtrs width of godawari rajahmundry deggara 4km.....polavaram ki 10km dow stream ye 1500mts ki vacchestadi widhth pressure yela peruguddi turbines tho ???nuvvu spillway badulu /spill way tho patu turbine lo neellu vadultunnav....turbines consume waters kinetic energy........total enegy decreses considrabilly.... inkoti q=AV.... ante rate of flow/discharge is prportial to area & velocity..... papi hills deggara 300mtrs so less area .......rajahmundry deggaraki vacche appatiki 4kms cosidarible decrease in velocity ......inka crores lo risk yenti sintakai..... turbines are operated in closed evironment with chutes carrying water such that more velocity for running turbines once open datum ki vaste ante river bed ki out of dam vaccheste .....1atm pressure ye untadi.....idi basics of fluid mechanics...... inka according to bernoulies equation there will be 20-50% of energy loss dam upstream ki dam down stream ki......unless corruption chesi mati kalti dam katti dam fail ayyi potential enegy of dam disperse ayite tappa there is no problem at all.....
accumilation of silt anedi natural phenominan for any dam...mitigation of silt by technology is important.....last 10-20yrs lo chala dams silt accumilation rate ni tagginchukunnai by some simple techniques ante 100% removal kaadu flood season lo dam loni parts/stratagic holes wara silt ni vadilese technology deeni valla 30yrs vacche dam life double avuddi easy ga......
marade height helps where flow is less farnchis badulu pelton use chesi gen chestaru adi 100+ yrs technology used in arid regions .....rancis to kuda two types untayi.....
my basic argument is polavaram capacity shoild be dobled first nunchi ide flood vacche 5-6 months ok next 6 months perennial ga water kavalante it must be doubled i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8018 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.249.230.175 Rating: N/A |
ee technology ki TOT undi annai. happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8016 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.249.230.175 Rating: N/A |
silt ani oka concept untadi adi koda okasari saduvu. discharge ki generation ki sambandham ledu, turbines will exert more pressure which may lead to floods, they cannot risk lives of crores to just support your lame argument happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8015 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.249.230.175 Rating: N/A |
hills, plateau, plains ani konni untai okasari geography sadukoni raaa lol flow ki generation ki sambandham ledantav malli ikkademo height testhav super kamedy lmao. happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8013 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.249.230.175 Rating: N/A |
disscharge ni pressure tho mudipettava mesharoo kikiki. happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 25016 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.186.177 Rating: N/A |
mana daggara aa technology unda? if not, will anyone transfer such cutting edge tech to us, at this point? Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8753 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
idi inko wrong argument srisailam embankments vs polavaram embankment .....papi hills with hight depth low width srisailam kanna chala manchi site...... i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8752 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
warald famous 3 gorges capacity is 41lakh cusecs ante almost mana polavarm disharge tho equal almost flow ledu ane argument ikkaditone out inka......  i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8751 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
Xiluodu Dam deeni spillway ante flow capacity polavaram lo 1/3rd .....dam back water/capacity nagarjun sagar tho equal......idi 13,200mw producing ....... i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8750 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
avunu fances turbines ante pressure & flow based ....height based meeda inko turbines untai pelton turbines very pld technology ....if polavaram sites has no capacity "80% india has no capacity to run 800mw turbines" polavaram site lo flow is 3rd biggest in india for 7-8 months after ganga and brahmaputra...... you know discharge capacity36 lakh cusecs orissa approched court for incresing discharge to 50lach cusecs lakh cusecs dicharge capacity ante flow range yento telusa???? alakananda kante pedda discharge nen example icchina dam flow kanna chala yekkuva anta volume flow untadi 400mw turbine paniradu flow takkuva anantam bs argument basic thing is polavaram is irrigation project designed to be it.....srisailam la hydro electric main ga primary designs unte you will know the actuals....even now multippurpose dam ga construct chesina left bank right bak lo mini hydal power like seluru pettukunte my fig is very much reachable.... i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8010 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.209.244.185 Rating: N/A |
annitini criticize seyyatam koda manukovali mesharoo, we are not far from getting recognized in the world unkl. patience is a virtue happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8009 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.209.244.185 Rating: N/A |
sagar is not designed to produce electricity. the main purpose was to irrigate. if you want to churn out more power it has to be like srisailam which is a plateau region and hilly area less probability of gathering silt. whihc in turn helps in longevity and easy maintenance of the project. polavaram ki unna topography ki antha power generate cheyyali antey reservior peddadi kavali and backwater sana dooram velthadi deep into orissa and chattisgarh. happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8008 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.209.244.185 Rating: N/A |
vunkle malli pappu lo kalu esthunnavu to churn more power out the turbines exert more pressure. the topography and region doesnt support that. konchem polavaram documents saduvu, one of the very brittle land and hilly area. if you use those turbine you might risk a flood which wipes out the most fertile lands of AP if not india. happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8749 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
Nathpa Jhakri Dam its 1/4th the sagar capacity produces 1500mw ......topography and terrain important,similarly technology back water kaadu babai......get your basics right i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8748 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: |
maree ade polavaram turbines are 80mw turbines outdated technology with same design turbines mariste farnsis turbines you witk=ll get 400*12=4800 mw electricity but each turmbine cost ye 1000s of crores untadi that escalates polavaram cost 3 times....made in india cheste ave turbines india lo then you get it 1/4th price....
kikiki nagarjun sagar kante takkuva back water thone(infact 1/20th of ns back water) 1000s of mw produce chestunnai himachal pradesh lo dams anni manake telusu pakkollu vplu anukotam yento nee vigate...... technology and cost is key india lo highest capacity tayaru chesina turbine is by bhel some 400mw adee 1/2yrs back ......adi mana capability .... i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Lolligadu Side Hero Username: Lolligadu Post Number: 8005 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 117.209.244.185 Rating: |
roju ki enni VP postulu postuthavu ayya? 14000-16000 mw antey entha reservoir kattalo telusaaa? nagarjuna sagar backwater and drain srisailam daka undi. daniki unna capacity ki. ninna edo pantapolaliu nasanam sethunnaru adi idi annav, ippudu polavaram ni redesign sethey entha munchalo artham avuthundaaa? mega project kattali antey you need natural resorces to help you, mountains and plateau region aithey burada form avvakunda depth thaggakunda untadi longrun lo. natural advantage lekunda peekedemi undadu. reverse engineering sesi memu potugallam ane chinese tho comparisonaaa? manam democratic country mesharoo. each and every policy is put in to discussion teared in to pieces it requires a popular mandate to put that into implementation. needi aney dani meda neku hakku untadi, china lo adi ledu, repu vachi nee land lo govt teesukuntadi ani board pedathadu emi feekalevu. compensation koda aadiki ishtam vachindi isthadu.adey india lo chesthey inko rakam ga edusthavu. edukayya ee posts? happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. | ||
| Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 24991 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.186.177 Rating: N/A |
how? why arent they going for the redesign then? 1000c istunnaru ga .. eenadu lo kuda vachindi ante .. teerdham ainatte ga .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
| Rowdy Legend Username: Rowdy Post Number: 33405 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 71.59.7.72 Rating: N/A |
eti idi nijamaa? ... Tilakam sir emantunnaru? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 8746 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
ganga is worlds 3rd biggest river by discharge.....hydro plants yevi 3 goerges type? vatipaina??? and polavaram if redesigned will have potential of 14000-16000 mw ......dani meeda plan lekunda sardar statue ki 200c....polavaram ki 100c....... chana quadrapled its hyro capacity in 10 years india ???? i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? |
