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Mental_sachinodu:

the reason being, pharma research scientists are not as well paid, even though they are paid higher than indian counter-parts.




I differ on this too. Pharma Research is probably the most secretive after defense research anukunta.. Pharma research scientists are paid handsomly because companies cannot risk losing them.

Imagine the risk of a principle investigator who was/is part of a flagship drug leaving for a competitor?
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M_S,

Parallel development of Drugs kastam regardless of the size of company.Companies here ave niche presence in specific markets for ex - some companies have huge presence in Skin ailment related drugs such as Abbot.

Parallel development of drugs is too costly.Getting FDA approval for single drug is itself very difficult.
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Mental_sachinodu:

(very few small scale pharma companies in the US do research




that was way back I think. CROs have helped many pure research based startups get into the game. any case, the goal posts are shifting. If you can get the numbers we talked about before, please do try. will be very interesting.
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why not? that *is* the primary reason kadhaa. from R&D costs to marketing to regulatory, everything is cheaper.




if thats the only project that is under research, yes indian companies will hands down beat US companies in terms of cost of the project. But rarely such is the case with larger companies(very few small scale pharma companies in the US do research), the cost structure for smaller products is not much different ani naa feeling, i am not including manufacturing here. the reason being, pharma research scientists are not as well paid, even though they are paid higher than indian counter-parts.

In manufacturing the cost in india is not even comparable. very cheap labor, and first hand experience tho chepthunnadhi enti ante, skilled worker % in india is very less, in pharma manufacturing units.
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Mental_sachinodu:

not arguing that indigenous indian medicine cost lower because of the overall cost structure being less.




why not? that *is* the primary reason kadhaa. from R&D costs to marketing to regulatory, everything is cheaper.

In general, waht is interesting is the trade off between regulatory compliance costs vs the risk of *not* having those. the attitudes are a sine curve.
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all good, any numbers? :D it also varies from industry to industry. med devices has a diff cost structure from pharma and from food processing. I know the med device costs .. curious about the other sectors.




numbers levu vunkl, if you are personally interested, i can put you in touch with people who have numbers. just ball park ante, nen disco chesi pettagalan.

anyway, not arguing that indigenous indian medicine cost lower because of the overall cost structure being less. but this is a private organizatio, valla profit % entha manaki idea ledhu kadha.
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all good, any numbers? :D it also varies from industry to industry. med devices has a diff cost structure from pharma and from food processing. I know the med device costs .. curious about the other sectors.
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between, pharma companies are more responsible, may be due to FDA and may be because with social media people willing to know the knowledge is everwhere. otherwise couple of decades back they were pretty unethical.
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Bushu:

so what % of costs do you think FDA compliance is?




drug to drug same % undalani ledhu Bush Bro. Sometimes apart from competitors, internal project management structure might also drive up costs, i have seen cases where the infra cost of one project affects the pricing of a smaller product, even if it remotely uses any of the infrastructure of the costlier product.

anyway, the main cost difference comes from the number of clinical trial iterations. I do not mean to say, the number trials done by US based companies in accordance with FDA is optimal, but its a costly affair, as it not involves personnel but also drags the time line of the project.
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exact number ante seppalenu. Ikkada , legal div anedi undhi.. R&D,Marketing and IT div lo thummali anna kuda ee legal valla tho disco chesi munduku povale annattu..

Basic ga , Medical rep each call to Prescriber/Hosp/practice is audited. In case of new drug launch, comp will conduct some training sessions/seminars and invites doctors.. avi general ga Florida lo sesthar.. daniki being in compliant to FDA rules is vital else comps get fined in millions.
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Getafix:

being in compliance to FDA not only in manufacturing the drug but in marketing as well, makes the final price go up.




so what % of costs do you think FDA compliance is?
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Bushu:

not sure. a simple regression may show other causal relations, main of which could be the desire for margins




Working with clinical trials and commerical tehcnoology div in a pharma comp. While i do not disagree on desire of higher margins but apart from cost of rigorous clinical trials , being in compliance to FDA not only in manufacturing the drug but in marketing as well, makes the final price go up.
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artham kaaledhu




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Slap - chempa chellu
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Telugu Kamma family




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aravodu ante not telugodu...…dot


Telugu Kamma family; division process lo vallu TN side vundi poyaru
Indian cities have their share of problems, but they are also places where you can walk around their shadiest areas at 1 am and be safer than say parts of Chicago, NYC, London, Madrid, Sydney etc...
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I am from a village near Thiruthani in Tamil Nadu and my father was a farmer. We were not wealthy farmers, just middle class. There were no businessmen or entrepreneurs or professionals in the family;
http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-meet- the-man-behind-indias-genome-valley/20110107.htm#3


aravodu ante not telugodu......dot
i am leading a pious life so far so good
new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela?
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hyd belongs to indians, hyd revenue must be shared by telugu states, stop fighting plzz
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After setting up Bharat Biotech in Hyderabad, he advised the former Andhra Pradesh chief minister N Chandrababu Naidu and the then State industries secretary Sheila Bhide to set up a Biotech Park to provide impetus to the growth of knowledge-based industries.////


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you nasty gajji fellow


sasibob kallaloo anandam choodatam kosam information share chesaa....
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you nasty gajji fellow
The Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself - FDR
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kindha ichina link lo genome valley and CBN gurinchi krishna ella cheppindi chadhavandi...if you are interested....
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ee candidate talk attend ayya vijayawada lo....anni bagane cheppadu gani pharma outsourcing ki atanu US lo eavriko cheppina argument nachala......Pharma ante pollution so meeku(US) adhi enduku maaku outsource cheyyandi ani anndanta
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http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-meet- the-man-behind-indias-genome-valley/20110107.htm

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Getafix:

FDA redtape teesethe i think drug prices sagam ki slash avthai.. but doing away a regulatory agency will bring other problems.. adi diff topic.




not sure. a simple regression may show other causal relations, main of which could be the desire for margins. patent regime ni 20 to 12 yrs chesthey things may get interesting.
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yem chesinaa yem cheyalanna

asalu dhenemma talent, dhairyam, chorava etc etc inni lakshanaalu anni kalipi okka manollake etta pettadu antaav ...ohhhh my sweet god
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Bushu:

foreign companies sell this for rs. 1100 while bharath biotech is aiming at rs. 63 version for India and other developing countries. this is how you make a diff. well done, boys




FDA and compliance daya..

FDA redtape teesethe i think drug prices sagam ki slash avthai.. but doing away a regulatory agency will bring other problems.. adi diff topic.
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Calm gaa denkeaaru


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keka... dedication at peaks
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Enthuku koncham champa vayincharu...


artham kaaledhu
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malli maavodenA. entha daaraposaru raa hyd ki


WE are the LIFE of HYD...and we gave LIFE to the city of HYDERABAD....
Calm gaa denkeaaru
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malli maavodenA. entha daaraposaru raa hyd ki.

intha chesi dongalu , doopidi anipinchukunnam. chasssss.
PAWAN KALYAN, TDP, PARITALA
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thoda slap




Enthuku koncham champa vayincharu...:-)
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thoda slap



Krishna Ella telugodu ainanduku andaram kottalisinde thoda
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sasibob and kd......thoda slap
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hope research landscape improves in india from now
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foreign companies sell this for rs. 1100 while bharath biotech is aiming at rs. 63 version for India and other developing countries. this is how you make a diff. well done, boys. :D
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15 yrs research and 300 scientists work.

It's also time to remember Jonas Salk and Albert Sabin, the polio vaccine inventors who probably saved more lives than any known or unknown God. and they did not make a single penny out of it. just gave it away.
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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/education/story/rotavirus-vacci ne-indias-first-indigenous-anti-virus-launched/1/423045.html

India's first anti-virus vaccine launched. to prevent infant deaths from diarrhoea.

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