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Getafix
Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 18500 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.107.204.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 11:17 am: |
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Mental_sachinodu: the reason being, pharma research scientists are not as well paid, even though they are paid higher than indian counter-parts.
I differ on this too. Pharma Research is probably the most secretive after defense research anukunta.. Pharma research scientists are paid handsomly because companies cannot risk losing them. Imagine the risk of a principle investigator who was/is part of a flagship drug leaving for a competitor? |
   
Getafix
Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 18498 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.107.204.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 11:13 am: |
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Mental_sachinodu:
M_S, Parallel development of Drugs kastam regardless of the size of company.Companies here ave niche presence in specific markets for ex - some companies have huge presence in Skin ailment related drugs such as Abbot. Parallel development of drugs is too costly.Getting FDA approval for single drug is itself very difficult. |
   
Bushu
Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 10751 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.91.156.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 10:52 am: |
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Mental_sachinodu:(very few small scale pharma companies in the US do research
that was way back I think. CROs have helped many pure research based startups get into the game. any case, the goal posts are shifting. If you can get the numbers we talked about before, please do try. will be very interesting. |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 16754 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 10:46 am: |
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Bushu: why not? that *is* the primary reason kadhaa. from R&D costs to marketing to regulatory, everything is cheaper.
if thats the only project that is under research, yes indian companies will hands down beat US companies in terms of cost of the project. But rarely such is the case with larger companies(very few small scale pharma companies in the US do research), the cost structure for smaller products is not much different ani naa feeling, i am not including manufacturing here. the reason being, pharma research scientists are not as well paid, even though they are paid higher than indian counter-parts. In manufacturing the cost in india is not even comparable. very cheap labor, and first hand experience tho chepthunnadhi enti ante, skilled worker % in india is very less, in pharma manufacturing units. |
   
Bushu
Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 10748 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.91.156.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 10:38 am: |
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Mental_sachinodu:not arguing that indigenous indian medicine cost lower because of the overall cost structure being less.
why not? that *is* the primary reason kadhaa. from R&D costs to marketing to regulatory, everything is cheaper. In general, waht is interesting is the trade off between regulatory compliance costs vs the risk of *not* having those. the attitudes are a sine curve. |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 16752 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 10:35 am: |
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Bushu: all good, any numbers? it also varies from industry to industry. med devices has a diff cost structure from pharma and from food processing. I know the med device costs .. curious about the other sectors.
numbers levu vunkl, if you are personally interested, i can put you in touch with people who have numbers. just ball park ante, nen disco chesi pettagalan. anyway, not arguing that indigenous indian medicine cost lower because of the overall cost structure being less. but this is a private organizatio, valla profit % entha manaki idea ledhu kadha. |
   
Bushu
Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 10747 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.91.156.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 10:32 am: |
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Mental_sachinodu:
all good, any numbers? it also varies from industry to industry. med devices has a diff cost structure from pharma and from food processing. I know the med device costs .. curious about the other sectors. |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 16751 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 10:31 am: |
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between, pharma companies are more responsible, may be due to FDA and may be because with social media people willing to know the knowledge is everwhere. otherwise couple of decades back they were pretty unethical. |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 16750 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 10:27 am: |
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Bushu:so what % of costs do you think FDA compliance is?
drug to drug same % undalani ledhu Bush Bro. Sometimes apart from competitors, internal project management structure might also drive up costs, i have seen cases where the infra cost of one project affects the pricing of a smaller product, even if it remotely uses any of the infrastructure of the costlier product. anyway, the main cost difference comes from the number of clinical trial iterations. I do not mean to say, the number trials done by US based companies in accordance with FDA is optimal, but its a costly affair, as it not involves personnel but also drags the time line of the project. |
   
Getafix
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Post Number: 18494 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.107.204.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 10:05 am: |
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Bushu:
exact number ante seppalenu. Ikkada , legal div anedi undhi.. R&D,Marketing and IT div lo thummali anna kuda ee legal valla tho disco chesi munduku povale annattu.. Basic ga , Medical rep each call to Prescriber/Hosp/practice is audited. In case of new drug launch, comp will conduct some training sessions/seminars and invites doctors.. avi general ga Florida lo sesthar.. daniki being in compliant to FDA rules is vital else comps get fined in millions. |
   
Bushu
Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 10745 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.91.156.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 09:52 am: |
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Getafix:being in compliance to FDA not only in manufacturing the drug but in marketing as well, makes the final price go up.
so what % of costs do you think FDA compliance is? |
   
Ruj
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Post Number: 16567 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.222.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 09:31 am: |
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Getafix
Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 18492 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.107.204.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 09:29 am: |
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Bushu:not sure. a simple regression may show other causal relations, main of which could be the desire for margins
Working with clinical trials and commerical tehcnoology div in a pharma comp. While i do not disagree on desire of higher margins but apart from cost of rigorous clinical trials , being in compliance to FDA not only in manufacturing the drug but in marketing as well, makes the final price go up. |
   
Filmbuff
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Post Number: 6404 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 61.0.204.228
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 04:33 am: |
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Mockingbird:artham kaaledhu
Thoda - koncham in Hindi Slap - chempa chellu |
   
Oldboy
Junior Artist Username: Oldboy
Post Number: 771 Registered: 02-2015 Posted From: 118.100.0.183
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 04:29 am: |
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Darth_vader:Telugu Kamma family
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Darth_vader
Comedian Username: Darth_vader
Post Number: 1256 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.169.232.43
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 04:26 am: |
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Ballasticmissile:aravodu ante not telugodu...…dot
Telugu Kamma family; division process lo vallu TN side vundi poyaru Indian cities have their share of problems, but they are also places where you can walk around their shadiest areas at 1 am and be safer than say parts of Chicago, NYC, London, Madrid, Sydney etc... |
   
Ballasticmissile
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Post Number: 8703 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 04:21 am: |
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I am from a village near Thiruthani in Tamil Nadu and my father was a farmer. We were not wealthy farmers, just middle class. There were no businessmen or entrepreneurs or professionals in the family; http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-meet- the-man-behind-indias-genome-valley/20110107.htm#3 aravodu ante not telugodu......dot i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? |
   
Prouddesi
Comedian Username: Prouddesi
Post Number: 1054 Registered: 09-2014 Posted From: 49.204.82.191
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 03:42 am: |
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 hyd belongs to indians, hyd revenue must be shared by telugu states, stop fighting plzz |
   
Maserati
Comedian Username: Maserati
Post Number: 1150 Registered: 02-2015 Posted From: 161.141.1.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 04:35 pm: |
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After setting up Bharat Biotech in Hyderabad, he advised the former Andhra Pradesh chief minister N Chandrababu Naidu and the then State industries secretary Sheila Bhide to set up a Biotech Park to provide impetus to the growth of knowledge-based industries.////
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Mockingbird
Comedian Username: Mockingbird
Post Number: 1119 Registered: 02-2015 Posted From: 192.184.94.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 04:17 pm: |
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All_day:you nasty gajji fellow
sasibob kallaloo anandam choodatam kosam information share chesaa.... |
   
All_day
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Post Number: 2847 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 107.0.27.252
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 04:12 pm: |
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Mockingbird:
you nasty gajji fellow The Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself - FDR |
   
Mockingbird
Comedian Username: Mockingbird
Post Number: 1118 Registered: 02-2015 Posted From: 192.184.94.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 04:10 pm: |
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kindha ichina link lo genome valley and CBN gurinchi krishna ella cheppindi chadhavandi...if you are interested.... |
   
Vjavasi
Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 13168 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 04:02 pm: |
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ee candidate talk attend ayya vijayawada lo....anni bagane cheppadu gani pharma outsourcing ki atanu US lo eavriko cheppina argument nachala......Pharma ante pollution so meeku(US) adhi enduku maaku outsource cheyyandi ani anndanta |
   
Mockingbird
Comedian Username: Mockingbird
Post Number: 1115 Registered: 02-2015 Posted From: 192.184.94.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 03:51 pm: |
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Sasibabu:
http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-meet- the-man-behind-indias-genome-valley/20110107.htm
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Bushu
Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 10741 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 18.111.36.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 03:45 pm: |
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Getafix:FDA redtape teesethe i think drug prices sagam ki slash avthai.. but doing away a regulatory agency will bring other problems.. adi diff topic.
not sure. a simple regression may show other causal relations, main of which could be the desire for margins. patent regime ni 20 to 12 yrs chesthey things may get interesting. |
   
Sasibabu
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Post Number: 32231 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 206.29.176.51
Rating:  Votes: 7 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 03:14 pm: |
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yem chesinaa yem cheyalanna asalu dhenemma talent, dhairyam, chorava etc etc inni lakshanaalu anni kalipi okka manollake etta pettadu antaav ...ohhhh my sweet god http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/115/276140.html?1418236493 |
   
Getafix
Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 18489 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.151.251.178
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 02:44 pm: |
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Bushu:foreign companies sell this for rs. 1100 while bharath biotech is aiming at rs. 63 version for India and other developing countries. this is how you make a diff. well done, boys
FDA and compliance daya.. FDA redtape teesethe i think drug prices sagam ki slash avthai.. but doing away a regulatory agency will bring other problems.. adi diff topic. |
   
Rudraksha
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Post Number: 4579 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 32.214.184.26
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 02:42 pm: |
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Vjawarrior:Calm gaa denkeaaru
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Thokkalohdi
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Post Number: 5793 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 24.130.195.182
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 02:32 pm: |
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keka... dedication at peaks Ranbir Kapoor is god of acting |
   
Mockingbird
Comedian Username: Mockingbird
Post Number: 1108 Registered: 02-2015 Posted From: 192.184.94.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 02:07 pm: |
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Filmbuff:Enthuku koncham champa vayincharu...
artham kaaledhu |
   
Vjawarrior
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Post Number: 15791 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 153.2.247.30
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 11:10 am: |
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Diviseema:malli maavodenA. entha daaraposaru raa hyd ki
WE are the LIFE of HYD...and we gave LIFE to the city of HYDERABAD.... Calm gaa denkeaaru |
   
Diviseema
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Post Number: 25322 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 103.16.71.23
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 11:08 am: |
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malli maavodenA. entha daaraposaru raa hyd ki. intha chesi dongalu , doopidi anipinchukunnam. chasssss. PAWAN KALYAN, TDP, PARITALA |
   
Filmbuff
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Post Number: 6396 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.198.129.49
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 11:05 am: |
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Mockingbird:thoda slap
Enthuku koncham champa vayincharu... |
   
Kdnumber1
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Post Number: 36160 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 162.221.33.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 11:05 am: |
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Mockingbird:thoda slap
Krishna Ella telugodu ainanduku andaram kottalisinde thoda |
   
Mockingbird
Comedian Username: Mockingbird
Post Number: 1101 Registered: 02-2015 Posted From: 192.184.94.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 10:59 am: |
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sasibob and kd......thoda slap |
   
Vjawarrior
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Post Number: 15790 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 153.2.247.30
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 10:53 am: |
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superrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... |
   
Thikka_sankara
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Post Number: 18205 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.179.87
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 10:52 am: |
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hope research landscape improves in india from now keka link: fikileaks,
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Bushu
Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 10737 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 50.164.157.158
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 10:48 am: |
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foreign companies sell this for rs. 1100 while bharath biotech is aiming at rs. 63 version for India and other developing countries. this is how you make a diff. well done, boys.  |
   
Bushu
Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 10735 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 50.164.157.158
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 10:43 am: |
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15 yrs research and 300 scientists work. It's also time to remember Jonas Salk and Albert Sabin, the polio vaccine inventors who probably saved more lives than any known or unknown God. and they did not make a single penny out of it. just gave it away. |
   
Bushu
Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 10734 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 50.164.157.158
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 10:39 am: |
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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/education/story/rotavirus-vacci ne-indias-first-indigenous-anti-virus-launched/1/423045.html India's first anti-virus vaccine launched. to prevent infant deaths from diarrhoea. |