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If the other states were worried about competition, then why did they sign off in the Parliament.




that's my point too. All the state rep's in parliament have voted and signed-off. If any state has questions, let them talk to their rep's, not my state or central's problem.
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Bushu:

they have always said, we are asking for 60 months




100c ista pothe... 60 months kaadu 6000 months ki kuda avvadu... ee matter lo center side DLMs trying ante... god is great amma
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polavaram meeda lolli chese vallaku request...

ee project 78 lo start ayindi..Chennareddy start chesad.. YSR/CBN lu ministers kooda..for some time..appati nundi CM lu ga unnadi kooda SA valle okka Chennareddy tappa.. enduku ee project munduku poledu.. budget lo enta allot chesaro.. lekkalu unte pettandi..

TDP 17 years.. Cong 20years unnadi power lo.. idi state under lo unnapudu manam entha priority icham.. entha progress ayindi..?

BJP ichindi takkuva ani oppukonta.. but project unna situation lo fund ivvadam enta varaku avasaramo choodali.. issues sort out ayyaka fund penchutaremo.. BJP ni kavali ani blame chestunnar.. idi oka kutra.. no doubt abt it..




78 lo start ayina polavaram yenduku complete avvaledu... T lo villages munigipothayi... pakka states tho fight cheyyali... headaches vunnayi

HYD vundi ipati varaku 10c ppl ki... ippudu HYD T ki ichesi... 6c janaiki rod dimparu... daaniki butter la polavaram chestam immediate ga annaru.... first budget lone insulting...inka polavaram katam ante chepputho kotali kodukulni... addupaduthunna yedavalni... sincerity leni center ni

naaku telika adugutha mestaru 200k project 1k release cheste yenni yrs ki avvudi

78 nundi aadu kataledu eedu kattaledu ane kaada ee thop thurum khan Modi ni elect chesukunnadi...
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Bushu:

really? what of the competition for neighboring states?




If the other states were worried about competition, then why did they sign off in the Parliament.
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Railway zone for vizag (BJP's major promise) does not have any major financial implications -- adhi kooda declare cheyyaledhu

whats huring AP most is that we are feeling let down by our own Ally at the Center-- ee feeling raakundaa choodalsina responsibility Central Govt dhe kada --
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Mental_sachinodu:

CBN is usually not one to jump the gun and comment out of place



i dont really think so annai..:D
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Organisation chart eyyatam progress kadu..
Ordinance tho land kalipaka, next critical milestones are Land acquisition and R&R (Rehabilitation & Resettlement)
Naku correct no. gurthu ledu, but it will be more than 1k cr

All this work should be done by State govt., for which they are eveready and can settle matter in 1yr
Land work delay ithe consequences ento Narmada dam chusanna budhi techukovali

100cr Jaffa's dog VS reddy thanthe ralthai.. Cheppocharu pumpuhar kaburlu
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Dhonifan:

no they can still continue other phases of work and they are doing it as well. now needed more funds thats all




I looked for this but could not find much. any report or article you can point out? has the 'stop work' order been lifted? looks like it was active as of last year. what about Odisha and CG's opposition? Dinesh Kumar was appointed CEO of PPA in Dec. what has he been doing?
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Bushu:

the point of this thread is to understand what's the status. and looks like there's a big bottleneck right now before anything can move. so what's the point of allocating a ton of money when none of it can be used?




ee mukka venkayya lantodu deadlines tho chebithe baguntundhi..6months-1yr lo aa issues anni solve chestham,5yrs lo complete chestham ani.appudu asalu polavaram gurinchi budget lo mention kuda cheyakkarledhu.adhemi lekunda 16000cr ki 100cr icharu ante janalu ala react avatam lo nothing surprise.
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Mental_sachinodu:

CBN is usually not one to jump the gun and comment out of place




well, history shows this is not right. :-)

in any case, I think things will be clearer soon. I am sure Modi is above this political oneupmanship crap.
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Bushu:

bottleneck right now before anything can move.


no they can still continue other phases of work and they are doing it as well. now needed more funds thats all
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is BJP doing a good job of communicating? clearly not; when even their own MLAs talk rubbish for political expediency.




this is my issue too. this is what bugged me with Manmohan , ofcourse i know BJP is much better at it.

but people will need a plan, otherwise these things will be an issue. CBN is usually not one to jump the gun and comment out of place, but others wont back down to use this for their own benefits.
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There is no cash outflow for that, of course there will be some losses due to exemptions but that is too far out.




really? what of the competition for neighboring states? I still think they should do the special status thing for the underdeveloped parts of the state .. but it does come at a cost. no cash outflow is just smoke and mirrors.
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Mental_sachinodu:

Polavaram ki 100 crores is not an issue, but to not expect backlash on it is.




backlash is deserved if it's intentional. the point of this thread is to understand what's the status. and looks like there's a big bottleneck right now before anything can move. so what's the point of allocating a ton of money when none of it can be used?

is BJP doing a good job of communicating? clearly not; when even their own MLAs talk rubbish for political expediency.
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Bushu:

India finances are not that great.




They should have realised it before agreeing to it in the division. Lack of finances is the least issue.

If finances were the issue, then have them declare AP as a special status state. There is no cash outflow for that, of course there will be some losses due to exemptions but that is too far out.
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lack of media proper prime media channel is killing BJP not just in AP but also at national level



i mean prime medial channel that backs BJp..
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Bushu:

Modi now has 29 eyes



lol BJP says the more the better... :D, a logic never explained by them other ofcourse political gains for BJP, where it is hard to otherwise gain popularity.

DOnt get me wrong, i am and have been a BJP supporter all my life.

But when there is something wrong, i dont mind being a critic.

Polavaram ki 100 crores is not an issue, but to not expect backlash on it is.
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Mental_sachinodu:

it goes to show that the expectations set by BJP elections is the killer here.



ess..also lack of media proper prime media channel is killing BJP not just in AP but also at national level..


its better if BJP appoints an official spokesperson for AP who gives regular updates..
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Shikari:

.ante adhi immediate ga jaragali..not after 20-25 yrs.ippudemo roju T tho water ki godava.itu Hyd revenue poyi aa polavaram kuda 5yrs lo complete avakapothe janala paristhithi enti?




polavaram complete kakapotam undadhu. once PPA was formed and a CEO Was appointed, things are supposed to move. as you know, there's a ton of baggage for that project and things will take time. asalu, state purview lo vadilesthey bandi kadalatledhu anegaa, center loki theeskellaru ee project ni?
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The issue is not with Polavaram or with Special Status as such..but the lack of a deadline or a roadmap to it. For instance on Special Status, the NDC would have to sign off, so set a timeline for calling the NDC and put it on the agenda..so that people know that there is some activity and movement. People get pissed off when there is no visible movement.

First year revenue deficit funding, what is the status..again release a white paper on what is the first year gap and how much centre has released.

Similarly Polavaram - say that the Rs100 cr is a temporary grant. But indicate a timeline as now it is the responsibility of the central govt.

So the task is to set a plan for execution of all these, who is responsble, timelines, funding in respective years etc etc.

But all that the BJP govt has been doing it is sitting on their butts. No wonder it gets everyone's goat.
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polavaram meeda lolli chese vallaku request...

ee project 78 lo start ayindi..Chennareddy start chesad.. YSR/CBN lu ministers kooda..for some time..appati nundi CM lu ga unnadi kooda SA valle okka Chennareddy tappa.. enduku ee project munduku poledu.. budget lo enta allot chesaro.. lekkalu unte pettandi..

TDP 17 years.. Cong 20years unnadi power lo.. idi state under lo unnapudu manam entha priority icham.. entha progress ayindi..?

BJP ichindi takkuva ani oppukonta.. but project unna situation lo fund ivvadam enta varaku avasaramo choodali.. issues sort out ayyaka fund penchutaremo.. BJP ni kavali ani blame chestunnar.. idi oka kutra.. no doubt abt it..
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I believe what hurt most was allocating just 100 crores -- which is very very less and no proper assurances in the budget speech in completing by 2019.




yes, 100 crs is very little and that would hurt. but looks like there is a reason for this - they have other things to do before allocating a lot of money. and Jaitley did say they are working on an AP plan for first week of march. choodham.

aina, India finances are not that great. and Modi now has 29 eyes just like Bob has 2. :D
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bro..when AP people asked for Hyd UT,10yr share of revenues..central govt cheppindhi..dani badhulu meeku Polavaram nationalize chesi complete chesi istham ani..ante Hyd valla vache loss ki replacement level lo chepparu danni..ante adhi immediate ga jaragali..not after 20-25 yrs.ippudemo roju T tho water ki godava.itu Hyd revenue poyi aa polavaram kuda 5yrs lo complete avakapothe janala paristhithi enti?
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Bushu:

actual construction started in 2004. inni rojulu ventilator lekunda bane survive ainatlundhi? :D


inni rojulu hyderabad undhi state united ga undhi, no need of a ventilator.

bill pass chesinappudu hyd vallaki polavaram meeku annaru. polavaram is the lifeline for ap annaru.
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I believe what hurt most was allocating just 100 crores -- which is very very less and no proper assurances in the budget speech in completing by 2019..

Karma is a witch -- evaru chesina daaniki vallu prathi palam anubavisthaaru - be it our Naidus or your Modis
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polavaram completion deadline was 2019 set by mee dear Naidu; ipudu ee budget lo iyyaledhani, entha delay aithadhi antaav? the project was thought of in 1978 .. actual construction started in 2004. inni rojulu ventilator lekunda bane survive ainatlundhi?



Ya apudu state dvide kaledu.. so problem ledu...
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AP is in doldrums- any delay would put the state on to death bed from ventilator




polavaram completion deadline was 2019 set by mee dear Naidu; ipudu ee budget lo iyyaledhani, entha delay aithadhi antaav? the project was thought of in 1978 .. actual construction started in 2004. inni rojulu ventilator lekunda bane survive ainatlundhi? :D
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they have always said, we are asking for 60 months. anni overnight aipovaali ante etla kudurthadhi?




overnight avvali ani who asked vunkl? no body expects that. Did BJP give any official direction on AP Re-org bill?
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Bushu annai
already one year gone inkaa overnight enti??

AP is in doldrums- any delay would put the state on to death bed from ventilator

Polavaram is a lifeline to the state (Telangana ki HYD and polavaram to AP was the punch line)
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Mental_sachinodu:

it goes to show that the expectations set by BJP elections is the killer here




they have always said, we are asking for 60 months. anni overnight aipovaali ante etla kudurthadhi?
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it goes to show that the expectations set by BJP elections is the killer here. ofcourse, such promises prior to elections is not uncommon, but when two parties were hell bent on breaking a state, and then to gain political support make promises which they eventually have to tone down on, will create a backlash. it is to see where it gets to from here.
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Ipudu the onus of handling the execution along with approvals etc is on Polavaram authority formed by central govt.




yes. it only means that the ball has shifted from the state govt to this central body. that authority needs time to get the clearances. just because an authority is formed does not mean the opposition to the project disappears. Do we know if there is absolutely no oppositoin from odisha, CG and MoEF? the 'stop work order' is still in effect, looks like.
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there's still a stop work order in effect. and govts of orissa and chattisgarh and also MoEF have to be convinced. aa panlanni cheyetaanikenemo ee 100 crs. whats the point of allocating money when nothing can be done?

has anything else happened on the stop work order?




Adantha old data before polavaram is declared as national project.

Ipudu the onus of handling the execution along with approvals etc is on Polavaram authority formed by central govt.
BJP - Northies Party, Modi - PM of Gujarath; until proven otherwise!!!
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for people getting agitated, here's the situation:

- PPA was formed after Modi govt came to power.
- ordinance was passed to merge some T villages into Andhra to eliminate T opposition.
- CEO for PPA was appointed in December 2014

BJP govt emi ceyeledhu ante navvalsindhey.

Current status as per the ministry:

http://wrmin.nic.in/forms/list.aspx?lid=380

>> Government of Andhra Pradesh vide its letter no. 14/ISPP/2013 dated 8.4.2013 has intimated that MoEF on the representation of Andhra Pradesh, has decided to keep the stop work order in abeyance for a period of six months during which efforts be made to get the Public Hearings done in the States of Odisha and Chhattisgarh for the protective embankments.

there's still a stop work order in effect. and govts of orissa and chattisgarh and also MoEF have to be convinced. aa panlanni cheyetaanikenemo ee 100 crs. whats the point of allocating money when nothing can be done?

has anything else happened on the stop work order?
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ekkada news?
This Andhra real estate is for sale.
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motham clearances vachesinattena ee project ki? looks like it's still stuck for some other clearances .. 100 cr is peanuts. more will be released soon and the project will be completed. it looks like a procedural delay.

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