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There will be somethings/people that we should not look in same mirror as we do with others.. Mother is one such person.

Far east ki ochina prathi foreigner was/is/will be missionary.. adi fact and underlying goal is conversion.. adi fact. But Mother came and became one of our own and dedicated her entire life to service.. ee angle lo chusi migithavi ignore maadi.
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Bushu:

there's no crying foul. just stating a fact. people got their undies in a knot when a fact was stated. it appears that we are way openly critical of our own saints (including Gandhiji) than of the outsiders. Athidhi devobhavah, maybe?


blasphemy.... How are you saying Teresa is a athidhi.... :D
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he would be better off replicating Mother Teresa's service model if he wants wapsi to be successful




wapsi or not, I hope you are not saying that RSS does not do any service. warped minds and all, service is paramount.
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ut he would be better off replicating Mother Teresa's service model if he wants wapsi to be successful


manzil ek hi hosaktha hai Lenin raasthe anek upalabdh hain..... You see we are not accustomed to forcing people to chose one particular path :D
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as to us crying foul about conversions - too bad !!




there's no crying foul. just stating a fact. people got their undies in a knot when a fact was stated. it appears that we are way openly critical of our own saints (including Gandhiji) than of the outsiders. Athidhi devobhavah, maybe?
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Lol - I admire Mother Teresa for what she did - as to us crying foul about conversions - too bad !!
Did not read bhagwat's stance but he would be better off replicating Mother Teresa's service model if he wants wapsi to be successful :-)

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chris hichens was dying of cancer and a pastor asked him if he was willing to take faith so the doors to heaven will open for him :-)




either he opted no and lived to tell his story or he said yes, and that pastor got sainthood for the miracle? :D
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still have lot of respect for her service. but koncham chiraku anipistundi, that she resorted to this crap
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..kadantara ?




aunantey kaadhanile, kaadhante aunaniley .. aneee ... :-)

Hitchens problem with religion aside, he also commented on the 'kind' of care she gave to the suffering sinners.

btw, your stance is getting dangerously close to mohan bhagwat's for which he was abused on the DB. so, please watch out. :D
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Nammakalu - chris hichens was dying of cancer and a pastor asked him if he was willing to take faith so the doors to heaven will open for him :-)

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Darth_vader:

She did baptisms on the death bed telling that it was their ticket to St. Peters. Thats pretty much ghoulish in nature.




seriously? terrible to do this.
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Motivation ni no one is questioning anukunta adhe papam mohan bhagwat kuda andhi but as usual media OA.
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There is no question about her motivation- that she did the service and built homes because she believed it will take her and the people closer to god ... I do not see an issue with that ...
And her funding was likely dependent on how many she was able to convert :-)
Bushu,
Lack of people to take care does not make the problem and situation intentional- people went there cos there were no better places to go ... Hitchen's contention is with religion in general - i was talking about the suffering comment ....kadantara ?

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Bushu:

yeah. thank you for your meaningful contribution. most welcome.



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Maverick:




so called DB Sicularists and moderate thinking people ki sudden gaa panlu unTaayi :D:D:D vaallu malli repu vastaru inko fresh hindu bashing thread loki..
naabhishEkO na samskaaraha simhasya kriyatE vanE! vikramaarjita satvasya syamEva mrugEndrataa !!

yadhaahi malinai: vastrE: yatrakurtOpavisyatE! vrutta: chalitOpi Evam Sesham vruttam na rakshati !!

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What is this crap abt religion.. Too much of religiousness is also not good.. How many cancer patients saved or major accidents averted by hinduisam/christianity/turaks?




that is what people are questioning.. hinduism never converted people to hindusim..where as tuluk and xtian have this as their motto..enduku religion ki anta importance icchi convert cheyyatam ani adugutunnaru
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Christians pray chestaru .. Save ani .. Poyetollu potunenvuntaru irrepective of religion..




'save' ani pray cheyyaru. in their belief, you are born a sinner and christ died for your sins. so wait for your death to be rid of your sins and until then, praise jesus the son of god - for he died for your sins. :D
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What is this crap abt religion.. Too much of religiousness is also not good.. How many cancer patients saved or major accidents averted by hinduisam/christianity/turaks?
Christians pray chestaru .. Save ani .. Poyetollu potunenvuntaru irrepective of religion..
Religion can not stop those untimely deaths.. Then what is so much use?
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kiki mother theresa ni question cheste blasphemy..ee batch ento mandi follow ayye religion lo matram questions veyyachu..kiki
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oka prejudice toni she is angel, she did all good, commenting on her is SIN type of mentality tO perigina dourbhagyapu nEla manadi (India). nijaalu chepte kaneesam yes she did wrong ani oppukune dhairyam lekapOga hindu matam (sanatana dharmam) ni enduku vimarsinchadam??
naabhishEkO na samskaaraha simhasya kriyatE vanE! vikramaarjita satvasya syamEva mrugEndrataa !!

yadhaahi malinai: vastrE: yatrakurtOpavisyatE! vrutta: chalitOpi Evam Sesham vruttam na rakshati !!

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Anand_n:

Same thing - the belief that it will let a soul pass thru to your heaven


Absolution is comparable to hindu last rites not baptism. Baptism is your introduction to that particular christianity sect.

Anand_n:

Anyway you all enjoy the bashing .. I am out of here


What'll I get if I bash her just wanted to set the facts right. I don't have a dog in this fight.
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Anand_n:

you too are reading lines out of context now- manaki leva alanti concepts ??? have a good time




what reading out of context? :D that is what Hitchens claimed she said. if you don't see anything wrong with that, there's nothing more to add.
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OT inkaa digaledaa thread Loki
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Same thing - the belief that it will let a soul pass thru to your heaven :-)

Anyway you all enjoy the bashing .. I am out of here

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Really ??? you too are reading lines out of context now- manaki leva alanti concepts ??? :-) have a good time :-)

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Lol - we do last rites believing that is tge ticket to our elders redemption too - that is her faith


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Lol - we do last rites believing that is tge ticket to our elders redemption too - that is her faith :-)

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Regarding her service, by Hitchens.


>> 1. The woman was in love with suffering and simply didn’t take care of her charges, many of whom fruitlessly sought medical care.

“At the time of her death, Mother Teresa had opened 517 missions welcoming the poor and sick in more than 100 countries. The missions have been described as “homes for the dying†by doctors visiting several of these establishments in Calcutta. Two-thirds of the people coming to these missions hoped to a find a doctor to treat them, while the other third lay dying without receiving appropriate care. The doctors observed a significant lack of hygiene, even unfit conditions, as well as a shortage of actual care, inadequate food, and no painkillers. The problem is not a lack of money—the Foundation created by Mother Teresa has raised hundreds of millions of dollars—but rather a particular conception of suffering and death: “There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ’s Passion. The world gains much from their suffering,†was her reply to criticism, cites the journalist Christopher Hitchens. Nevertheless, when Mother Teresa required palliative care, she received it in a modern American hospital.â€
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So what ???? the motivation of her service was her religion .. And anything that motivates that kind of service - hats off to it !

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sickening to see people trying to paint her as a ghoul..


She did baptisms on the death bed telling that it was their ticket to St. Peters. Thats pretty much ghoulish in nature.
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lets see a few other people who have done the kind if service she has




who denied her service?
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She was a missionary - they are sent and funded to promote Christianity.. None of that she hid :-)
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But some SICKULAR Indians are unable to accept this.
That is the reason for all these threads
She did service but at the same time did conversions
You can not just pick service and ignore the other
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What's the point - lets see a few other people who have done the kind if service she has with or without the motivation of saving their souls before indulging in mudslinging :-)

She was a missionary - they are sent and funded to promote Christianity.. None of that she hid :-) sickening to see people trying to paint her as a ghoul..

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Please don't give credit to BJP where it is not their due...maa guruvu garu Christopher Hitchens hurt avuthadu...




mana edhavalu notice chese lopala hitchens kurrodu racha racha chesodiladu. ofcourse, we still need to credit her for what good she did. he has his own angle.
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Gandhiguevara:

Modalettaraa BJP mark burada




Please don't give credit to BJP where it is not their due...maa guruvu garu Christopher Hitchens hurt avuthadu...

Mother Teresa kante chala mandhi social work, palliative care chestaru without the blue bordered shroud of piety or godliness or evangelism. The actual number of people who have passed through their hospitals or rather care centres is actually quite minimal.

Missionaries purpose is to convert. How can you say otherwise? Valle hurt avutharu, leave aside others.
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//Modalettaraa BJP mark burada
//

TDP mark ento cheppu

konni nijalu chedu gane vuntayi accept cheyataniki

Hindu bashing oka fashion iyyindhi
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Bushu:

those on the extremes of the society, those who were thrown away. she gave them some hope; and she took care of them. FACT.

she also saw them as God's own children, and people that had to be saved. and when she could, she converted them, often without their consent. FACT.


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Gandhiguevara:

BJP mark burada


hehe .. buradallo mee burada veru .. maa burada veru ..
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Gandhiguevara:

.yeah right...




yeah. thank you for your meaningful contribution. most welcome.
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Eppudu india lo 30 to 40 age lo kotha trend bashing Hinduism and thinking people may treat them as seculars
Fan of chiru(movies)and pavan
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those on the extremes of the society, those who were thrown away. she gave them some hope; and she took care of them. FACT.

she also saw them as God's own children, and people that had to be saved. and when she could, she converted them, often without their consent. FACT.
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Bushu:


kikiki...yeah right...
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Gandhiguevara:

Modalettaraa BJP mark burada




koncham burra therichi aalochisthey buradho pankajamo thelusthadhi. adhi cheppindhi BJP ollu kaadhu bayatollu.
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Did she convert people or not?

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Missionary_Position

by a critic

>> He quotes a former member of her order who describes baptisms of the dying performed without their consent.

by a supporter:

>> He defended secretly baptizing the dying as "a generous mark of sincere concern and affection"
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Modalettaraa BJP mark burada
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