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Bushu
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Stig:

aren't ahmadiyyas are supposed to be most liberal muslim sect ??




not liberal. just a minority sect. kaani manchi pyramid scheme. :D
mana bohra muslims koncham better.
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evaranna Rahul Pandita book chadivara
OUR MOON HAS BLOOD CLOTS....a story of migration by a kashmiri pandit
adbutham ani cheppanu but chadivithe chala sad feel ayyanu
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off topic , AIB vallu christian group ni kalsi apologise chesi oka press note bhi release sesaaru.

ee right wing govt. vachaaka freedom of speech ni tokkestunnaru
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Lichtenberg:

that ahmadi guy need not insult anyone....if he goes to pakistan and just talks abt his new prophet, that itself is blasphemy & he can be killed legally in many muslim countries




ahhh got it ...
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Mental,

Why I gave that specific example is....I am pointing out the irony.......that ahmadi guy need not insult anyone....if he goes to pakistan and just talks abt his new prophet, that itself is blasphemy & he can be killed legally in many muslim countries
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Mockingbird:

saare jahaan se accha hindustan hamara..ani raasaad




happatlo secular annattu... ye gulistan ani raasukunnaad.. tharvatha he felt islam(real islam like sharia) wont survive in a majority hindu country... plate turn sesaad.. tooch ani pakistan ki inko paata raasaad...
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Lichtenberg:


See this Canadian ahmadiyya.....this guy says u cannot insult prohet.......but this guy will be prosecuted in many muslim countries just for his religion alone....

http://ahmadiyyatimes.blogspot.com/2015/01/canada-calgary-im am-condemns-charlie.html




vunkl, ahmadiyya's are as conservative as any other religious group. im not saying they are as radical, but just conservative. free speech proponents in west, also draw line when it comes to religion, as long it is their religion. ikkada Imam kooda adhe annaad... i dont think he is saying prophet is out of bounds exclusively, but gives fuel to radicals to do insane acts.

Pope adhe annaad... Hindu's say the same when hindu gods are insulted. ofcourse no comparision between the reactions from the people.

christians and hindus right now jebulo maramaraal nalupukuntunaar max, if someone does it.
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Stig,

Moderate em ledu.......intlo unnaakka vaallu kottukuntaaru.....bayata vasthe maammoole

See this Canadian ahmadiyya.....this guy says u cannot insult prohet.......but this guy will be prosecuted in many muslim countries just for his religion alone....

http://ahmadiyyatimes.blogspot.com/2015/01/canada-calgary-im am-condemns-charlie.html
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iqbal modhatloo reejanabull ye anukunta....saare jahaan se accha hindustan hamara..ani raasaad.....tharvatha hardcore separatist ayyaad....
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Darth_Vader, If feel that is one of Bollywood's biggest successes - portraying sufism in a positive light

Starting from Ulug Begh(who championed science and tried to give respcet all religions)....Sufis had a major role in his killing for the sole reason he did not patronize islam exclusively
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Didn't know Iqbal was once a follower of Ahmadiyya sect too.

aren't ahmadiyyas are supposed to be most liberal muslim sect ??

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2013/07/uncategorized/allama-i qbal-was-an-ahmadi-muslim-until-a-few-years-before-his-death
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Lichtenberg:

this is one of the BS stories peddled that sufis are moderates.....they are not


Sufism is moderate now are ppl who are practicing Sufism moderate ante yeah they're no different from other followers of Moslems but they are better of sects.
Indian cities have their share of problems, but they are also places where you can walk around their shadiest areas at 1 am and be safer than say parts of Chicago, NYC, London, Madrid, Sydney etc...
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Lichtenberg:

don't know what's in the video.....iqbal kurrod even wrote poems hating Jews, no?




yes he did, not exactly poetry but articles. he has exclusively mentioned that judaism and brahmanism as the core evil of this world and source of all racism.

According to him church is under jewish controller, and jews were behind the crusades to demolish islamic propagation in europe.
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Mental_sachinodu:


actually its the insecurity in him, that made him such an islamist IMO.


thats true and also didn't help that after ottomon empires anhillation these buggers suddenly found themselves inferior. Nizam gadu kuda turkey lo settle avvataniki one of the reasons is his belief that ottomon empire will raise again. ISIS is also using this same identity crisis.
Indian cities have their share of problems, but they are also places where you can walk around their shadiest areas at 1 am and be safer than say parts of Chicago, NYC, London, Madrid, Sydney etc...
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don't know what's in the video.....iqbal kurrod even wrote poems hating Jews, no?
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Darth_vader:

Irony is that a Sufi philosopher was so hardcore islamist




this is one of the BS stories peddled that sufis are moderates.....they are not
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Darth_vader:

hardcore islamist



actually its the insecurity in him, that made him such an islamist IMO.
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tarek fatah strikes back..:D
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Stig:

Evarayaana




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqytzRtolBY

he is Tarek Fatah, pak canadian ... too liberal for muslims to handle.. His ideas are abit complicated for a typical muslim, as in he supports Quran but is against Sharia.

look at this .. he explains the indentity crisis of Pak very well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kEjtHfoFK0
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Irony is that a Sufi philosopher was so hardcore islamist and helped in creating the idea of a Moslem country.
Indian cities have their share of problems, but they are also places where you can walk around their shadiest areas at 1 am and be safer than say parts of Chicago, NYC, London, Madrid, Sydney etc...
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Mental_sachinodu:

Pak friends tho discuss chesthe.. saana careful ga disco seyyandi iqbal gurinsi.


Hardcore Iqbal fan Zaid Hamid toh inka careful ga undali
Strength is the product of struggle, you must do what others don't to achieve what others won't - Henry Rollins
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Evarayaana baa seppadu ... aa book kuda dorikithe sadivi pedatam :D
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I have never liked Iqbal - and exactly my thoughts about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq6fxGUhYXw

Pak friends tho discuss chesthe.. saana careful ga disco seyyandi iqbal gurinsi... :D

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