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Royyala_nayudu
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Reddit:lot of fluff no substance in most of the start ups
Thats how start ups are anywhere. In silicon valley 99% of the startups go bust. 1% which succeed out of them only few make it big, others drag on for years and close shop eventually. |
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https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1. 0-9/263583_10150235751039598_2164069_n.jpg?oh=f3011083c55a1a 9fe6e3cb98e70e651b&oe=554FFC2F&__gda__=1435902102_e3f5696b7c 61a395180f72efb0b4fa02
The one talking to AA anukuntaa??
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Maa Television Network Limited currently have 5 Active Directors / Partners: Nagarjuna Rao Akkineni, Nimmagadda Prasad, Chunduri Ramakrishna, Aravind Babu Allu, Ram Charan Tej Konidala, and there are no other Active Directors / Partners in the company except these 5 officials.
http://corporatedir.com/company/maa-television-network-limit ed
Who is Chunduri Ramakrishna???
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Shikari
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Timepasskosam:
alage idhokati bookmark chesukondi..you will see lot of such stories daily
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/emerging-businesses
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Timepasskosam
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Shikari:
Thanks Bro |
Shikari
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Timepasskosam:Plz share the Link for ET article
Link given to RamRamesh
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-12-21/news /57280919_1_binny-bansal-iconiq-capital-flipkart
If you are asking for Packaging link ,here it is http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-06-09/news /50448111_1_flipkart-myntra-e-commerce
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Shikari:
Plz share the Link for ET article |
Shikari
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Lolligadu:promoters invested 40 lks. total investment was about 2.7 crores.
this was 2 years ago. ippudu aa company ki single order ee 130 crores ki undi.
super.read similar stories in ET.ippude start ayindhi asalu,inka 10x potential untundhi easy ga.
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Lolligadu
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Shikari:
maku tlsinavallu, my unkls fren started a small packaging firm in hyd, promoters invested 40 lks. total investment was about 2.7 crores.
this was 2 years ago. ippudu aa company ki single order ee 130 crores ki undi. appudu anukunna denemma packaging and logistics de future ani.
happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. |
Filmbuff
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Boston_baba:nee bank balance emaina tagginda ane pulp post ki match avtundi idi...
Akkada bank balance thaggindi as we are all shareholders in the state but here nee bank balance actual ga thaggaledu, unless you are a shareholder. Akkada nee badha, Ramoji ki bank balance perigindhi ani, neeku thaggindhi ani kaadhu 
Ika board approvals, shell companies antava. First one as i said is not needed for small investments. As for the latter, every other investment in India happens through a Mauritius or Cayman Islands company because of tax issues. We have done many such investments through these tax saving vehicles. It is not a topic even worth discussing. |
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Reddit:e-biz has been done to death so look at other opportunities
i agree
Lolligadu:logistics is one area where small investors should look into ani naa peeling
yes..chala scope undhi.
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Sp1234
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Boston_baba:sakkaga argue cheste cheyyi.. personals ki poku...
over cheyaku andhulo personal emundhi. sarcasm ni kooda receive chesukoleka pothe db lo discussion tagginchuko.
Ey thread chusina Andhrolle both sides batting.. |
Lolligadu
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Shikari:
logistics is one area where small investors should look into ani naa peeling unkl.
happy for the gal who freed herself from the penitentiary of a sick guy. |
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Shikari:correct ye..vishayam unte kummeskovachu kadha ilantappudu.
e-biz has been done to death so look at other opportunities
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Shikari
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Boston_baba:nee bank balance emaina tagginda ane pulp post ki match avtundi idi...
naku ila anipinchindhi j/k http://www.bewarsetalk.net/discus/movieanimated1/bemmi.muyy. gif
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Reddit:lot of fluff no substance in most of the start ups
correct ye..vishayam unte kummeskovachu kadha ilantappudu.
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Lolligadu
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Boston_baba:
jm financials is a PE firm, they are money managers, if reliance decides to invest in it. JM manages their money and assures some profit,a agreement anthavarake. where to play with the money how to reap profits anedi PE firm's headache. its same as mutual fund biz.
reliance board approval in regards with the investment into PE is approved, PE firm evaritho deal chesthundi anedaniki board approval endi sami? they are no way concerned.
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Boston_baba
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Filmbuff:Inthaki nee issue enti, if you are a shareholder of Reliance you should file a case against Reliance for over paying for ETV. If you are not, then you don't have a locus standi. Case closed nutshell..
nee bank balance emaina tagginda ane pulp post ki match avtundi idi...
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece |
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Shikari:startup scene is like never before in india now..funding kummesthunnaru
lot of fluff no substance in most of the start ups 
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Boston_baba
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Sp1234:padu lokam bro.. nee asalaina badha ni ardham chesukoleka pothundhi.
sakkaga argue cheste cheyyi.. personals ki poku...
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece |
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Boston_baba:reliance money ni, through kampani shell comapnies, route cheyadam correct or not telusukundamani....
I think you've got the fund routing wrong; it was Mukesh Ambhanis' personal funds which were used to buy the stake then this was offset with the loan amounts that RIL gave to Network 18. I'm running a little busy right now but its not a straight transaction of entity A buying entity B.
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Shikari
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Ramramesh:I have already burnt my hands once right before that...A startup that I was part-off right after graduation went belly-up after 2.5 years of hard work and all we got was from a fire sale of the IP
intha egsperience undhi kabatti inka kummeyyochu aithe
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Boston_baba:reliance money ni, through kampani shell comapnies, route cheyadam correct or not telusukundamani....
I think you've got the fund rooting wrong; it was Mukesh Ambhanis' personal funds which were used to buy the stake then this was offset with the loan amounts that RIL gave to Network 18. I'm running a little busy right now but its not a straight transaction of entity A buying entity B.
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Lolligadu
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Boston_baba:
private equity firm loki money pampithey danni eenadu ki vadu vadukuntey reliance vadidi thappu avudda? relianca capital investment lo board decides to invest in some private equity firms it is upto the equity firm which actually decides where to invest it.
konchem saduvu unkl.
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Shikari
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Ramramesh:It's a little too late.
it's never late bro..just example ki flipkart icha..ebiz kakapothe apps,inka edhaina startup...startup scene is like never before in india now..funding kummesthunnaru..manchi idea,business model unte you can start now too..mana filmbuff bro can through more light on it..as he is in the same path already.
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Sp1234:koncham lateral thinking cheste, KG basin pricing, tax saving/evasion through shell companies, all these things matter to me.
padu lokam bro.. nee asalaina badha ni ardham chesukoleka pothundhi.
Ey thread chusina Andhrolle both sides batting.. |
Sp1234
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Boston_baba:enti vadu elanti vado, vadu cheppindi nammalaa?
akkaraledu.. read all the data out there and think
Ey thread chusina Andhrolle both sides batting.. |
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Filmbuff:Inthaki nee issue enti, if you are a shareholder of Reliance you should file a case against Reliance for over paying for ETV. If you are not, then you don't have a locus standi. Case closed nutshell..
naku knowledge ledu kada annai.. entha percentage unte, shar holder approval kavalo chepte telusukundamani, 2013 daka, details kuda nokki pedithe ok naa kada telusukundamani,
reliance money ni, through kampani shell comapnies, route cheyadam correct or not telusukundamani....
just stakeholder aithene post cheyali anukunte, nuvvu nenu ee DB lo chala posts/threads veyalsina avasaram ledanukunta.
koncham lateral thinking cheste, KG basin pricing, tax saving/evasion through shell companies, all these things matter to me.
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece |
Ramramesh
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Shikari:nenu post chesina link lo last paragraph chaduvu.EMI lu kattukunta ala bandi laginchedham ani kakunda gattiga edho okati cheyyali anukunte this is the best time to do it for a mango techie.
It's a little too late...One of my friends asked me to join a E-biz online-ads startup as an early employee 3 years back, which is highly valued now in India....I didn't join as I have already burnt my hands once right before that...A startup that I was part-off right after graduation went belly-up after 2.5 years of hard work and all we got was from a fire sale of the IP.... |
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Sp1234:he has a stand and its a FAN stand... kastam maratam
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Sp1234:
http://www.livemint.com/Home-Page/4jftdZlxvS6lNxUr3OqKGN/Kam pani-surprised-at-Nagarjuna-probe.html
He noted that he had resigned as Nagarjuna Finance director in 1999.
�We are in 2008,� he added. �I don�t know why they are linking me to the company now.�
enti vadu elanti vado, vadu cheppindi nammalaa?
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece |
Sp1234
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Filmbuff:Inthaki nee issue enti, if you are a shareholder of Reliance you should file a case against Reliance for over paying for ETV. If you are not, then you don't have a locus standi. Case closed nutshell..
he has a stand and its a FAN stand... kastam maratam
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Boston_baba:
Inthaki nee issue enti, if you are a shareholder of Reliance you should file a case against Reliance for over paying for ETV. If you are not, then you don't have a locus standi. Case closed nutshell.. |
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Boston_baba:
LOL.. economic crisis time lo, 50% more valuation. routing through shell companies. no board approval. second two amount to financial fraud. vachina money white or black who knows....? 2013 daka, reliance financial statement lo kuda levu details.
procedural lapse anta... vinevadunte ennaina cheptaru.
Reliance vaadu 500$ million dollars black teesuku raagalda country to country...for that matter any company however powerful in the world? This must have been routed through the RBI net and clearance....Akkadiki YSR edo karuna mayudu..>Ramoji ni vadilesaadau paapam annattu....Enni rakaalu gaa debba kottoccho anni rakaalu gaa try chesaadu YSR....The more I learn about this the more I am losing any respect I had left for him.....
Vinevaadunte ennaina antaaru.... |
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Ramramesh:
nenu post chesina link lo last paragraph chaduvu.EMI lu kattukunta ala bandi laginchedham ani kakunda gattiga edho okati cheyyali anukunte this is the best time to do it for a mango techie.
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Ramramesh:I wonder if all the hardwork in my life in pursuing a technical career is worth it?
quality of life matters kada.. yours is much better than some RE builder out there.
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece |
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Ramramesh:there was no fraud...it was white money...it wasn't bribes re-routed through Cayman Islands as investments...It was white money of Reliance...If there ever was a problem, it was not taking board approval, which anyway is not un-common to avoid controversies in Indian acquistions...Key point to remember is that this was white money and not bribes re-routed....
LOL.. economic crisis time lo, 50% more valuation. routing through shell companies. no board approval. second two amount to financial fraud. vachina money white or black who knows....? 2013 daka, reliance financial statement lo kuda levu details.
procedural lapse anta... vinevadunte ennaina cheptaru.
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece |
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Ramramesh:I wonder if all the hardwork in my life in pursuing a technical career is worth it?
you can do it too
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-12-21/news /57280919_1_binny-bansal-iconiq-capital-flipkart
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Setting aside the politics and other things, the bottom line
Denamma enti aa valuation...Media ki intha value vundha....Jeevitam loo start ups ani Big Data ani ivvanni oka etthu...ee Media empires anni inko etthu....I am just shocked that AP Media marker is worth 2600 crores....Nakkani tokki vaccharu Nag and Chiranjeevi....easy gaa iddariki oka 1000-2000 crores properties vuntaaya? Aaa money enti aa crores enti???
Crores ni chilla penkullaaga treat chestunnaru gaa India loo....Upper Middle class in AP loo ee real estate boom valla andariki crores common iye poyindhi....US loo 10 years fight pettina raani money okka real estate transaction loo earn chestunnaru AP janaalu....hats off....
I wonder if all the hardwork in my life in pursuing a technical career is worth it? Ledaa ee pettina effort antha ee medicine loone pettina poyedhi. anipitsundhi....at least every specialist in US makes 300-400K$ per annum.... |
Sp1234
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Boston:
Kampani was targeted in Nagarjuna scam because of his involvement with Eenadu deal.
http://www.livemint.com/Companies/OUS5p0fynWNTi9bkrdH1MO/Kam pani-emerges-with-Eenadu-deal.html
early 2008 - Kampani eenadu deal. Late 2008 - ysr target kampani for unrelated case.
basically YSR used all sorts of faction tactics to scare investors away from Eenadu, like he blocked blackrock. what a crook.
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Boston_baba:and how funds routed anedi kuda, financial fraud.
there was no fraud...it was white money...it wasn't bribes re-routed through Cayman Islands as investments...It was white money of Reliance...If there ever was a problem, it was not taking board approval, which anyway is not un-common to avoid controversies in Indian acquistions...Key point to remember is that this was white money and not bribes re-routed.... |
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Boston_baba:
mee sour grapes feeling ki public/govt ki sambandham ledhu. like i mentioned its on reliance and its shareholders.
kampani fraud enti... sakshi lo rasthe fraud avaru. nagarjuna board lo unnadani target chesaru. He is accomplished investment banker annai.
http://www.livemint.com/Home-Page/4jftdZlxvS6lNxUr3OqKGN/Kam pani-surprised-at-Nagarjuna-probe.html
He noted that he had resigned as Nagarjuna Finance director in 1999.
“We are in 2008,†he added. “I don’t know why they are linking me to the company now.â€
Per the law, every company need to have % people from outside the company in the board
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how funds routed anedi kuda, financial fraud.///
Fraud aa bongaa? Small procedural lapse, adi. |
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Lolligadu:board approval lekunda finances approve etta chesthar vayya. endo nee gola
opika ledu babu.. thread lo saarang tho disco chudu. correct me if im wrong somewhere.
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Service companies valuation different ga untundi. Neeku ardham ayye bhasaha lo cheppalante, oka flight lo ye iddaru, oke price pay chesi undaru. Okadu 3000 pay cheste, inkokadu 250 ne pay chesi undochchu. |
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Ramramesh:We were comparing Blackstone and Reliance valuations...NOT as to why Reliance left out Eenadu...
valuation comparison is just one part of disco. say, if we agree that, both are valued based on broadcast business alone, reliance valued it at 50% more than blackstone deal.
and how funds routed anedi kuda, financial fraud.
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece |
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Boston_baba:no board approval, financial fraud nimesh kampani as front man
board approval lekunda finances approve etta chesthar vayya. endo nee gola
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Sp1234:annai even if all you said is correct, how is that a scam. Its reliance stockholders loss. creating new companies andaru chestaru even in US, for tax benefits and for complying with regulations etc. If black money flows in to shell companies then its a problem. oka pakka board approve cheyaledu antav inko pakka shell companies ani stress chestav. edho okate scenario possible. black money case aithe it is outside of reliance company.
scam kadaa??/ without board approval, investments (may be certain size) are illegal and financial fraud & bokka loki potaru.
procedures and people involved raises lot of doubts.
first blackstone deal kante, better deal, worst times lo, through shell compnaies, no board approval, financial fraud nimesh kampani as front man.
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece |
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Valuation anedi chala abstract process. Evari model valla ki untundi. Vallu danne follow avutharu.
Youtube ni Google konnappudu, aa CEO interview lo cheppadu, vallaki vachchina offers 150 million nundi 1 billion varaku unnayani. Antha variation untundi. |
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Sour grapes case anthe.. Public ki sambandham leni private company deal and no benefits like QPQ involved.
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Boston_baba:veeti anniti revenue base chesukune, blackstone vadi valuation. otherwise, group is in losses.
We were comparing Blackstone and Reliance valuations...NOT as to why Reliance left out Eenadu...
Let's focus on Blackstone....Blackstones valuation was ONLY FOR Ushodaya enterprises...
It struck a deal to pick 26 per cent in Ushodaya Enterprises, the parent company of Eenadu, for around $275 million (around Rs 1,240 crore back then). This valued the parent company at around Rs 4,770 crore.
Ushodaya Enterprises clocked revenues of Rs 948 crore with EBITDA of Rs 196.15 crore and net profit of Rs 153.84 crore for the year ended March 2007, according to VCCEdge, the financial research platform of VCCircle. So, Blackstone valued the main group company around 24x EBITDA and 31x net profit.
Bulk of the company’s business comprised media even as the Ramoji Rao-led group is also into hospitality sector (Dolphin Hotels), entertainment infrastructure (Ramoji Film City theme park in Hyderabad), financial services (Margadarsi Chit Fund) as also FMCG (Priya Foods) and film distribution among other fields.
According to a rating agency report, Priya Foods is one of the divisions of Ushodaya Enterprises, but the other businesses are not housed under the flagship company. |
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Kuragayala beram ayithe, nuvvu cheppinattu chestaru. Blackstone ki offer chesina package different, Kampani ki chesinid different. |
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New_user:"on top of all, eenadu/rfc/priya foods lanti cash cows and RE assets vadilesi (group is in profits if u including them), just broadcast media (that too 100% stake in other regions and 49% stake in telugu) teeskovadam."
Evi ammalo decide chesedi ramoji kada. Intha chinna point ela miss avuthavu.
"50 Cr loss"
Aa madhya Errabus anedo bus tickets amme company ni entha ki konnaro choodu. Ippudu MaaTV deal ayina anthe, already market lo aa company ki unna penetration ki aa value ichchedi.
ikkada point, blackstone valuation is based on revenue of grp (includes eenadu + rfc etc), while reliance deal excludes that. link motham chaduvu bhayya okasari..
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece |
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Boston_baba:blackstone vadi deal kanipistunte, danni chupinchi bargain cheyakunda, tatha ki favor cheyadaniki, ambani, 6 shell companies create chesi, kampani ane financial fraud (accused in nagarjuna finance scam) ni mundu petti, wihtout shareholders approval (this deal is first disclosed in 2013) invest chesadu.
on top of all, eenadu/rfc/priya foods lanti cash cows and RE assets vadilesi (group is in profits if u including them), just broadcast media (that too 100% stake in other regions and 49% stake in telugu) teeskovadam.
annai even if all you said is correct, how is that a scam. Its reliance stockholders loss. creating new companies andaru chestaru even in US, for tax benefits and for complying with regulations etc. If black money flows in to shell companies then its a problem. oka pakka board approve cheyaledu antav inko pakka shell companies ani stress chestav. edho okate scenario possible. black money case aithe it is outside of reliance company.
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Boston_baba:on top of all, eenadu/rfc/priya foods lanti cash cows and RE assets vadilesi (group is in profits if u including them), just broadcast media (that too 100% stake in other regions and 49% stake in telugu) teeskovadam.
malli adhee antaavu ??!! Blackstone which usually buys firesales of desperate businesses, valued just the BROADCAST BUSINESS at $275 million...Reliance valued the same Broadcast business at $500 million?? What's the big deal...different people have different valuations...Reliance wanted grip on regional news and entertainment channels for political or whatever reasons and got what it's wanted!!
Ambani's laanti misery gujjus evadi kanna favor gaa edanna sesthaara? They bought it when they saw the value....rest mee speculation.... |
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Ramramesh:Blackstone valuation WAS ONLY FOR USHODAYA ENTERPRISES.
http://www.vccircle.com/news/telecom/2012/01/04/did-blacksto ne-lose-out-scrapping-eenadu-deal-2008
This leaves out the print media unit Eenadu Publications and Priya Foods, two business divisions that comprised as much as two thirds of its total revenues in FY09. Given Eenadu Publications’s stronghold in the local market that would also comprise bulk of the profits of the group.
veeti anniti revenue base chesukune, blackstone vadi valuation. otherwise, group is in losses.
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
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"on top of all, eenadu/rfc/priya foods lanti cash cows and RE assets vadilesi (group is in profits if u including them), just broadcast media (that too 100% stake in other regions and 49% stake in telugu) teeskovadam."
Evi ammalo decide chesedi ramoji kada. Intha chinna point ela miss avuthavu.
"50 Cr loss"
Aa madhya Errabus anedo bus tickets amme company ni entha ki konnaro choodu. Ippudu MaaTV deal ayina anthe, already market lo aa company ki unna penetration ki aa value ichchedi. |
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New_user:Idemanna koora gayala berama? Blackstone, Kampani vi exact ga similar packages kadu. Ilanti deals lo evariki vallaki valuation cheyyadaniki, own ga auditing teams untayi.
lol... avatali vadi situation, mana avasaram batti deal chestam. atlantidi,
blackstone deal kante, 50% more valuation, at the time of financial crisis appearing. without shareholders approval, shell companies (may be for tax saving etc), financial accused in nagarjuna finance scam as front man.
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece |
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Ramramesh:New_user, Corporate fraud aa, bonga? Small procedural error.
2600 cr, share holder money without approval dobbeste, procedural error aa?
ambani kakunda inkodu ayi unte, bokka lo undevadu.
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New_user:Ratan Tata okkade kau, US Ambassodor kooda Chidambaram ni kalisadu, ee FIPB clearance kosam. Mundu media lo foreign investment annaru, a tharavtha blackstone lo China secret ga invest chesindi, so india ki danger annaru. Aa tharavtha ee funds, direct ga depositors ki istam antene approve cheyyali annaru.
Whatever happened, ee pressure lekapothe, ramoji financial house cleaning chesukune vadu kadu. Antha mana manchike.
Ramoji ni debbeya daniki, Blackstone laanti highly-reputed private equity firms ni kooda debbeyalani choosaada YSR...I wasn't aware of this level of sabotage on Undavalli and YSR's side....
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Ramramesh:you don't know what you are talking about.
temper lose avutunnattunnav. chakka ga details post cheyakuda.
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blackstone vadi deal kanipistunte, danni chupinchi bargain cheyakunda,
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Idemanna koora gayala berama? Blackstone, Kampani vi exact ga similar packages kadu. Ilanti deals lo evariki vallaki valuation cheyyadaniki, own ga auditing teams untayi. |
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Ramramesh:18 was a typo....However, Blackstone's valuation was only for these channels, so was Reliance's valuation
so the truth is.
Sp1234:Violation of law unte It's on Reliance, which as i said it can be investigated, contested and what not. it has nothing to do with Eenadu valuation. There is no hard and fast rule for valuation, different companies value differently in the marketplace.
BTW, I do not like Reliance and thats how they operate their businesses. So i am not surprised. If they did like this only for Eenadu then your questions may have value.
nee nammakalu evadikkkavali annai.
truth is.
blackstone vadi deal kanipistunte, danni chupinchi bargain cheyakunda, tatha ki favor cheyadaniki, ambani, 6 shell companies create chesi, kampani ane financial fraud (accused in nagarjuna finance scam) ni mundu petti, wihtout shareholders approval (this deal is first disclosed in 2013) invest chesadu.
on top of all, eenadu/rfc/priya foods lanti cash cows and RE assets vadilesi (group is in profits if u including them), just broadcast media (that too 100% stake in other regions and 49% stake in telugu) teeskovadam.
http://www.vccircle.com/news/telecom/2012/01/04/did-blacksto ne-lose-out-scrapping-eenadu-deal-2008
motham article chudu. kinda, eenadu add chestene, group is in profits. without eenadu. group reported losses of 56cr.
This means RIL valued the broadcast business of the group alone at around Rs 2,600-3,000 crore (since it has only around half of the Telugu language channels). Latest financials are not available but during FY09, Ushodaya had slipped into losses with EBITDA shrinking to FY07 levels.}
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece |
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Boston, This is a white and white transaction on record. Stockholders of Reliance paid for stake in Eenadu. They are at loss if Reliance overpaid or did not follow procedures. It should not matter to you, me or govt.
Rather, you or ysr fans should encourage stockholders of reliance to take up fight or become stockholders and fight.
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Shell companies create cheyyadam, ilanti deals lo secrecy maintain chyyadaniki, chala common ga chestaru. Dacoit srustinchina vatiki parent companies emi levu.
Blackstone, end of the world kadu. Blackstone tho deal avvadu anukunna time lo mugguru indian buyers vachcharu. Reliance lucky, jackpot kottindi. |
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Boston_baba:
LOL.... blackstone vadi deal kanipistunte, danni chupinchi bargain cheyakunda, tatha ki favor cheyadaniki, ambani, 6 shell companies create chesi, kampani ane financial fraud (accused in nagarjuna finance scam) ni mundu petti, wihtout shareholders approval (this deal is first disclosed in 2013) invest chesadu.
on top of all, eenadu/rfc/priya foods lanti cash cows and RE assets vadilesi (group is in profits if u including them), just broadcast media (that too 100% stake in other regions and 49% stake in telugu) teeskovadam.
denni batti, neutrals em conclude cheskovalo nuvvu cheppu.
by the way. below are channel list. 18 regional languages kadu.
� 100% stake in Prism TV Pvt Ltd, which owned ETV Marathi, ETV Gujarati, ETV Kannada, and ETV Oriya, ETV Rajasthan, ETV Madhya Pradesh, ETV Bihar, ETV Uttar Pradesh, ETV Urdu.
� 49% in Eenadu TV Pvt Ltd, which owned ETV Telugu and ETV 2.
18 was a typo....However, Blackstone's valuation was only for these channels, so was Reliance's valuation |
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Bostson baba
Sakshit lo repu, aa time lo Wall St Journal editor, Narisetti Raju, kamma kabatti, Mint lo Ramoji ki anukulam ga rasaru ani raste, nammesel unnavu.
Konchem use cheyyi. Deccan chronicle, stock market lo enter ayinappudu, valuation entho telusa? |
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Boston_baba:kindi nundi disco chudu, 2013 lo reliance first time disclose chesindi about rmoji deal. till then, share holders are kept in dark. share holders consent (i.e., board approval) lekunda deal chesaru, which is fraud.
Violation of law unte It's on Reliance, which as i said it can be investigated, contested and what not. it has nothing to do with Eenadu valuation. There is no hard and fast rule for valuation, different companies value differently in the marketplace.
BTW, I do not like Reliance and thats how they operate their businesses. So i am not surprised. If they did like this only for Eenadu then your questions may have value.
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quote:New_user, Corporate fraud aa, bonga? Small procedural error. SEBI chinna warning ichchi vadilesindi. Merger deals eppudu chala secretive ga ne chestaru. Board approval, oka formality.
Ramoji channels ni chepa ga ammesadu.
Dead cheap gaa ammesaadu...ee lekkana at least 6000-7000 crores vacchevi ee rojunaaa... |
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Ramramesh:Blackstone is a private equity vulture that swoops in for firesale of properties....Tatha was desperate because of faction tactics of YSR....If Blackstone itself valued only 26% of ushodaya enterprises at $275 million, then desi firms like Reliance had no qualms in easily picking up the stake of 26% of Telugu and 100% of 18 regional language channels (which were 2 or 3 in their markets, talk about pan-India appeal)...Indian businessmen of the calibre of Ratan Tata got pissed off with YSR for blocking this deal and damaging the prospects of Indian businesses...No surprise that they acquired what they felt was a extremely valuable business and at the same time bail out a fellow business man...
LOL.... blackstone vadi deal kanipistunte, danni chupinchi bargain cheyakunda, tatha ki favor cheyadaniki, ambani, 6 shell companies create chesi, kampani ane financial fraud (accused in nagarjuna finance scam) ni mundu petti, wihtout shareholders approval (this deal is first disclosed in 2013) invest chesadu.
on top of all, eenadu/rfc/priya foods lanti cash cows and RE assets vadilesi (group is in profits if u including them), just broadcast media (that too 100% stake in other regions and 49% stake in telugu) teeskovadam.
denni batti, neutrals em conclude cheskovalo nuvvu cheppu.
by the way. below are channel list. 18 regional languages kadu.
– 100% stake in Prism TV Pvt Ltd, which owned ETV Marathi, ETV Gujarati, ETV Kannada, and ETV Oriya, ETV Rajasthan, ETV Madhya Pradesh, ETV Bihar, ETV Uttar Pradesh, ETV Urdu.
– 49% in Eenadu TV Pvt Ltd, which owned ETV Telugu and ETV 2.
Yes... I deliberately provided wrong data to assembly -CBN
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/tdp-claims-denied-by-its-own-budget/article6336996.ece |
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Ratan Tata okkade kau, US Ambassodor kooda Chidambaram ni kalisadu, ee FIPB clearance kosam. Mundu media lo foreign investment annaru, a tharavtha blackstone lo China secret ga invest chesindi, so india ki danger annaru. Aa tharavtha ee funds, direct ga depositors ki istam antene approve cheyyali annaru.
Whatever happened, ee pressure lekapothe, ramoji financial house cleaning chesukune vadu kadu. Antha mana manchike. |
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Boston_baba:blackstone (a third party) valuation for all wings (importantly eenadu + rfc also), against keeping them aside.
you don't know what you are talking about. Blackstone valuation WAS ONLY FOR USHODAYA ENTERPRISES.
Ushodaya Enterprises clocked revenues of Rs 948 crore with EBITDA of Rs 196.15 crore and net profit of Rs 153.84 crore for the year ended March 2007, according to VCCEdge, the financial research platform of VCCircle. So, Blackstone valued the main group company around 24x EBITDA and 31x net profit.
Bulk of the company’s business comprised media even as the Ramoji Rao-led group is also into hospitality sector (Dolphin Hotels), entertainment infrastructure (Ramoji Film City theme park in Hyderabad), financial services (Margadarsi Chit Fund) as also FMCG (Priya Foods) and film distribution among other fields.
According to a rating agency report, Priya Foods is one of the divisions of Ushodaya Enterprises, but the other businesses are not housed under the flagship company.}}}} |
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