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Tilak:

kish eti .. aamir dance lu kadatannadu .. lol ..


db ki hits penchadaaniki :D.... Anyway, that thread got hijacked into ISKCON's philosophy vs rest.....
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Thikka_sankara:


thank you ..

kish eti .. aamir dance lu kadatannadu .. lol ..
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Tilak:

1st thread ki link istara plz ..



http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/115/280858.ht ml?1423462417
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1st thread ki link istara plz ..
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4 yugas become one mahaayugam (satya/kruta, treta, dwapara, kali) i.e.
Satya Yuga (also called Krita Yuga) - 1,728,000 human years; Treta Yuga - 1,296,000 human years; Dvapara Yuga - 864,000 human years; Kali Yuga - 432,000 human years; Total mahaayugam - 4,320,000.
71 mahaa yugaalu will be one manvantaram
14 manvantaraalu will be one kalpam
one kalpam will be one pagalu for brahma. one full kalpa kaalam will be one night for brahma. rendu kalpalmulu will be one full day i.e. one night and one day.
avantara pralayam will be between one kalpam and second kalpam.
maha pralayam will come once brahma completes his 100 years
100 such kalpams will be the 100 years of brahma.


some interesting read about earth's age and how kalpas are calculated are given in the below link. this closely matches what our scripts and pravachankaarulu says about (rather popular belief) the yugas, age of brahma, kalpa, manvantarams etc.,

http://baharna.com/karma/yuga.htm
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Analog:

Devi Bhagavatham lo complete details of all kings who ruled 7 continents (jambu dweepam,plaksha dweepam,krouncha dweepam..


is it, then I should read it.....Krouncha dweepam ante north america, jambu dweepam is asia
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Lenin:

Aus appatlone unda?




aus undaka povacchu, atlantis undi untundi emo list lo. Eart's plate movement valla change avuthu untaayi kada. so may be different continents, different numbers kooda possible.

mee question ardham ayyindi, nenu type chesaaka. appudu 7 unte ippudu seven undali ani ledu kada..correcte :-)
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Lenin:

according to Hindu contexts, at the end of each yuga all the living beings on the earth were destroyed ...does the science tell the same? I mean can u correlate the time frames?

my googling has given age of earth around 4.5 billion years


and kali yuga span is 432000 years and u have to increase the number of years of each yuga by 1+ multiples


how can u justify this?




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manvantara#Comparison_to_the_Ag e_of_the_Universe_from_Modern_Astronomy
Naannaa puli story - oka visha vruksham http://games-n-maths.in/blog/funstrations/story_analysis.html
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Lenin:

my googling has given age of earth around 4.5 billion years


and kali yuga span is 432000 years and u have to increase the number of years of each yuga by 1+ multiples




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalpa_%28aeon%29#Kalpa_and_othe r_periods_of_time
Naannaa puli story - oka visha vruksham http://games-n-maths.in/blog/funstrations/story_analysis.html
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Analog:

jambu dweepam (asia) largest ani cheppadu ante great ye kada




brother...

Aus appatlone unda? I doubt it...Aus is moved away from South East/Central part kada due to movement in tectonic plates antaru kada
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Lenin:

I am not sure about this, vinnadi adugutunna, Dwapara yugam ending tarvata pedda tsunami lantidi vahi andaru poyaru ani...is it true?




major part of the yadhu vamsam got destroyed..but motham life eradicate ayipoledu


Lenin:

Subcontinent lo ramayana and mahabharata jarigai..so ade time world lo vere kingdoms undi untai kada, vati gurinchi emaina mention chesara vatillo ?



Vishnu Puranam and Devi Bhagavatham lo complete details of all kings who ruled 7 continents (jambu dweepam,plaksha dweepam,krouncha dweepam...)and characteristics of ppl who lived there...mountains,rivers etc etc info undi....I agree we cannot validate those details...thousands of years kritham jariginavi....but atleast 7 continents unnayi andulo jambu dweepam (asia) largest ani cheppadu ante great ye kada
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Gochi:




avasarame naku...

before criticizing Hinduism , I should know about it...

oorkane devudu unnada, unte chooinchandi analenu kada...

BTW, I am a self taught astrologer these days, I find it fascinating, nijam ga vidakulu, failure in marital life lantivi astrology tho accurate ga predict cheyochu

oka rakam ga though I'm a hardcore supporter of left ideolgy, in a dilemma about Hinduism also
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I am not sure about this, vinnadi adugutunna, Dwapara yugam ending tarvata pedda tsunami lantidi vahi andaru poyaru ani...is it true?

at the same time...how can u correlate these time frames?

Subcontinent lo ramayana and mahabharata jarigai..so ade time world lo vere kingdoms undi untai kada, vati gurinchi emaina mention chesara vatillo ?

alage, vere countries, races history lo mahabharata, ramayana gurinchi emaina rasi unda?

I know Greeks are well aware of maurya empire and pourus...
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Lenin:




anni details avasaramaa Lenin bro...aadevado E=mC square annaadu...ippudu asalu eee equation correct enaa ani manam kooda aadi laaga life anthaa research chesi vaadu kanukkunnadhe malli kanukkotam valla use emundi....evado edo lekka cheppaadu earth age gurinchi...nammithe nammuthaam,lekapothe ledhu...anthe gaani aadu alaa endukannaadu,daaniki reasoning enti,ivanni deniki...dimaak ko jyaada tension nahi denekaa...

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Lenin:

according to Hindu contexts, at the end of each yuga all the living beings on the earth were destroyed ...does the science tell the same? I mean can u correlate the time frames?




no not at the end of every yuga..but at the end of kalpa after the kaliyuga the world will be destroyed ...1 kalpa is 100 mahayugas(comb of kruta,treta,dwapara,kali) ....as per scriptures we are in 28th kaliyuga...
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thanx for the clarification from ur side 7 hills babu...

still I have lot of doubts regarding age of earth, Hindu cosmology, age of each yuga and how u can relate science to HInduism...

U can not simply turn down science , they used several dating methodologies to decide it

according to Hindu contexts, at the end of each yuga all the living beings on the earth were destroyed ...does the science tell the same? I mean can u correlate the time frames?

my googling has given age of earth around 4.5 billion years


and kali yuga span is 432000 years and u have to increase the number of years of each yuga by 1+ multiples


how can u justify this? when did dwapara yuga? Kurukshetra is believed to have been occurred in various date according to various astrologers ranging from 6000 BCE to 500 BCE....

but a time frame lo aithe pedda tsunami or catastrophe lantidi em raledu aukunta kada earth meeda
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Cinejeevi:

sikularists can equate them




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7kondalu:

So, these good humans are called as the messengers of GOD or Avatars of GOD. Be it Rama, Krishna, Chrsit, Buddha or Prophet.




Krishna himself declared as Supreme God in gita, where as Rama did not.

Since I don't consider/believe others religions/matams I don't want to comment about them but sikularists can equate them and put them next to people who followed sanatanadharma
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Aha:

nammable aa Ana? padi vela samvatsaraalaa?




nammablaa ante... we have to calculate as per the yuga dharma. at that time in treta yuga and rather full age of a human that time is 120,000 years. Dasaradha died at middle age :D:D:D
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One more

during madhyanna sandhyavandana mantram when we say "pasyema saradaSSatam, jeevEma SaradaSSatam, nandaama SaradaSSata ..."


pasyema saradaSSatam -- anekakaalam paramaatmanu anubhavinchedamu. ikkada Satam anna padam undi kaabaTTi 100 gaa teesukunnattunnadu author.

jeevEma SaradaSSatam -- anekakalamu rOgamulu lEkunDaa unDedamu.

and so on.... as I cannot type the whole mantra and meaning :-)
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7kondalu:




in the link you gave he says dasaradha lived for 16,000 years. actually he had rama when he was 64,000 years :-)

the interpretation he made might make sense mathematically or with logic.

as per our sanatana dharma kaliyuga is for about 4,30,000 years and hardly 5000 years passed by now.

dwapara is double to kaliyuga
treta double to dwapara
and satya double to treata.

also one wrong notion we have or the way we calculate is these kings (rather lineage of rama) have lived for many yugas which means a guy took birth ikshaavku to naabhaga might have passed many yugas (many years) as mentioned above.
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Analog:

.as per ramayana, Rama lived 10000+ years




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Braindrain:

Now the question comes who is GOD and did GOD was there on land. There is no creation without a creator. Someone has created this universe. That whcih is not seen, heard, felt. So, that supreme power is called GOD. If you do not give a form to that power, people cannot co-relate to GOD. So, these good humans are called as the messengers of GOD or Avatars of GOD. Be it Rama, Krishna, Chrsit, Buddha or Prophet. None of them ever claim to be GOD. They are the messangers of that power.



well said.
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Getafix:

height kuda reduce avutha ochindataga? Rama was giant anta... nijamena?


avunu, bhadrachalam dagara chinna place untundi akkada, rama padalu imprints untayi adi chuste telisipotundi that Sri Rama was tall and big personality ani
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Sonyvaio:

yugalu maare koddi, age of the human being reduced.




height kuda reduce avutha ochindataga? Rama was giant anta... nijamena?

Avatar movie lo James Cameron kurrod ee yokka idea baaga esploit chesadu. Navi tribe ppl being very tall.
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analog:

appatlo human life span is not 100 years..as per ramayana, Rama lived 10000+ years




this guy has some explanation for life span, not sure how accurate it is.

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.com/2009/07/did-rama-rule -for-11000-years.html
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Thokkalohdi:

Vedas are not written by humans.




humans kakapothe evaru rasaru ...? old generation lo tala patrala meedhe rasevallu kadha..? avi anni 1000s of years ela protect chesaru ?..avi ee language lorasaru ? sanskrit ?
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appatlo human life span is not 100 years..as per ramayana, Rama lived 10000+ years




may be appudu year calculation different ga undochhu...may not be like 365 days like now..

10000+ years ante how is it possible...asalu 10K years back jarigina incidents elacarry forwardavuthayi generatin after generation
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7kondalu:


sadhguru ane ayana time travel gurunchi chala beautiful gaa explain chesaru youtube lo video undali.....where he told how universe is travelling with bigger physical entitity.....and showed how yugas are constructed

andulo nunchi manam deduce cheyochu that satya yugam lo life will have longer life
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Time is relative.
Vedas are not written by humans.
Vedas existed long before Rama n Krishna.
Rama n Krishna r black whiles Aryans r white. ait is wrong.
Gita adds a philosophical perspective to what is said in 4 Vedas.
Rama n Krishna followed Veda to the t. So ppl who can't follow 4 Vedas can follow life of Rama n Krishna via Mahabharata n Ramayana.
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did you see the link in my first post. aa article lo emanna thappulu unnaya sony?



yugalu maare koddi, age of the human being reduced. dwapara yugam time ki human average life is around 120 years......mahabharatham lo pandavas/kauravas were in 60s when they fought
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7kondalu:

choostha unte anthaa less than 300 years laa undi..




appatlo human life span is not 100 years..as per ramayana, Rama lived 10000+ years
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did you see the link in my first post. aa article lo emanna thappulu unnaya sony?

vasistha - sakthi - parasura - vyasa - vichithravirya - dritharasthra/panduraju - pandavas/couravas.

choostha unte anthaa less than 300 years laa undi..
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7kondalu:

maa uth ki mee blessings kaavali


nenu mee dagara blessings adugutunte :-(
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Hi Sony uncle, maa uth ki mee blessings kaavali :-)
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ninna phone lo choosa thread, reply kodadam ante archives lo undi :-(


Lenin:

Hinduism lo Ramudu Krishnudu modati nunde unnara? (Ramayanam, Mahabharatam )



modati nundi elaa untaaru comrade, hinduism ani manam anukune sanathana dharmam oka vyakthi tho or oka year lo start avvaledu kada?


Lenin:

ippudu unna HInduism ki origin eppudu start aindi ?



ippudunna hinduism ante emito chebuthaara? saivam + vaishnavam kalisi undadam?


Lenin:

naku telisina vishnu sahasra namam, lalita sahasra namam, gayatri mantram, mrityunjaya maha mantram lanti vatillo ekkada Ramudu, Krishnudu prastavana undadu...




dont about rama, but krishna ante appatiki avatharam chaalincha ledu kada?

btw, found this interesting link, not sure how true the information is.

http://ancientindians.in/ramayanam/how-many-generations-were -there-between-sri-rama-and-sri-krishna/


Lenin:

Oka vela AIT perspective lo chooste Aryans ikkadakochi settle ayyaka, valla gods aina Ramudini Krishnudini Hindu gods list lo kalipesara?



valla gods ni tecchina mana meeda ruddaru anukundam. but what happened to the places where they come from? akkada entho kontha rama and krishna reference undaali kada?


Lenin:

Hinduvula ki Vedalu parama pavitramainavi...vati place lo bhagawadgita eppudu vachindi?



naa anumaanam britishers time lo hindu janala ki bible equivalent ga vacchi untundi :-)


Lenin:

Ramudu, Krishnudu , Bhagawad gita Hindu devulla? Aryula devulla? Bhagawadgita Hindu grandhama? Hinduvula meeda rudda badinda?



evari devudu aite emiti annai, manchi chepparu manollu follow ayyaru anukovacchu kada.

naaku unna doubt - shiva + vishnu baane poojinpabaduthunnaru, kaani brahma enduku sideline ayipoyaado

btw, mee fighting spirit ki mooga abhimaanini :-)

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