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Simhapuri_kurrodu:

Jujung:
if you are going to convert, you better tk some money or derive some material benefit to do so.. otherwise, what is the point in converting?


valid point and soofer


actually it is the opposite. u will convert because u r going to get something.
OT on OT : NTR bomma pettakunda few months gadipi , dikku leka malli NTR bomma ke mokkadam modalettina kukka CBN fans ikkada....

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Every conversion has to be informed to court / govt body through an affidavit.

Though anybody have a right to preach a religion, No one have a right/authorized to convert others. No religious conversions should be allowed at large scale public gathering.

Arrest anyone who lured to convert and ban those NGOs

arrest evangelists who come on tourist VISAs but doing religious preachings.
OT on OT : NTR bomma pettakunda few months gadipi , dikku leka malli NTR bomma ke mokkadam modalettina kukka CBN fans ikkada....

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Jujung:

if you are going to convert, you better tk some money or derive some material benefit to do so.. otherwise, what is the point in converting?




valid point and soofer
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Jujung:

bring in uniform civil code by default (and religious law only when both parties agree to it)


akkada mamulu bills ye RS lo aagipote, ilanti vatini ekkada chestaru? wait till 2016
OT on OT : NTR bomma pettakunda few months gadipi , dikku leka malli NTR bomma ke mokkadam modalettina kukka CBN fans ikkada....

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Thelegend:

em caste set chesaru veellaki?




should check with kerala churches. not a bad idea
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Teluguhero:

In the wake of Agra reconversion row


em caste set chesaru veellaki?
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xtremisim in any religion is dangerous,seuclar and democracy is a mirage
NTR bomma pettakunda few months gadipi , dikku leka malli NTR bomma ke mokkadam modalettina kukka CBN fans ikkada...-animuthyam by OT
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Jujung:

this is stupid and violation of freedom etc.. asala in my view, there is nothing like a fraud conversion.. if you are going to convert, you better tk some money or derive some material benefit to do so.. otherwise, what is the point in converting?





Teluguhero:

The fact of the matter is that conversion through inducement, fraud and force is taking place in the country. Illegal conversion is creating discontentment in the society. Only an anti-conversion law can stop fraudulent conversion.


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Sukumarudu:

they are just following congress strategy..polarising hindu votes..




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Sukumarudu:

lg kada bhaiyya.. sony anukuntunde but damn good deal la undi. repu store visit chesi . nachithe calling thread estha..


cool deal.. u can check if they have it in stock and block it if u want.. no credit card req.. maa store out of stock...

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chala thanks bhsiiya gurthu pettukunnaduku.


thanks enduku tammi...
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Sesani:


lg kada bhaiyya.. sony anukuntunde but damn good deal la undi. repu store visit chesi . nachithe calling thread estha..
chala thanks bhsiiya gurthu pettukunnaduku.
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unnayi bhaiyya.. ya chusthunna.
desl unte padeyyi bhaiyya velli chustha.




http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=2 67468

ee TV 899 ki vacche coupon undi... if u like it, if u have it in stock in ur store, will email you the coupon..
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awesome.. we need something like this..

G pagal kottali convert chesevallani dabbu aasa chupinchi or some other bullshit
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unnayi bhaiyya.. ya chusthunna.
desl unte padeyyi bhaiyya velli chustha.
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neeku microcenter stores unnaya deggarla?? u still lookin for 4k tv??
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Vjawarrior:


raaja sarigga alochinchevadiki andariki kaluthadi .. hindu texts lo ekkada convert chesthe hindu aipothadanna concept ae ledu..

90% material annapudu stop that material kaani idekkadi gola?
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spot on jujung!
their intentions are clear .. they are just following congress strategy..polarising hindu votes..
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Sukumarudu:


anavasaranga gillu thunnaru prajalu kottuka savalani.


dont go bymedia...agara lo 20 mandini reconvert chesthe...ee cong lk gaallaki and sickular lk gaallaki kaalipoindi...mari where are these scum LKs who cared a hooot when soo many forced conversins to xtianty and muslims were taking place....
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Jujung:

this is stupid and violation of freedom etc.. asala in my view, there is nothing like a fraud conversion.. if you are going to convert, you better tk some money or derive some material benefit to do so.. otherwise, what is the point in converting?


90% conersions are material....
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Polyglot:

for example...AR rehman kurrodu personal reasons ki convert ayyadu.....adhi unlawful ante, it will be a shame on a secular country like India...ani naa adhi...


mana desam lo conversions ni unlawful chesi dobbali annai....lekapothe....edo okka reason tho ilaa conversions jarugutooone untai....
arr personal reasons tho chesina sare....tht kind of conversins shud be made complicated and valid reasoning shud be given....mana India lo undaali...last 50 yrs gaa chaal mandi convert aipyaaru...esp christianslaaga...

lekkalu teeyatledu gaani....hindus will be 65% in our country now....ippudu manalni manam kaapadukolekapothe....inko 50 years lo errpiii sickularism peru meeda...mana desanni denkabettukotam khaayam
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this is stupid and violation of freedom etc.. asala in my view, there is nothing like a fraud conversion.. if you are going to convert, you better tk some money or derive some material benefit to do so.. otherwise, what is the point in converting?
the only thing is govt should scrap all religion based exemptions in all its laws.. this is where bjp/rss is stupid.. asalu source of problem ni vadilesi, doing some street level thuggery.. so many things it can do:
1. RTE which is applicable to all schools except those of minorities (even if they are govt funded).. amend it and remove the exemptions
2. govt control of religious institutions - it can take money only from hindu temples, but not others.. how is this secular? relinquish control of temples and scrap sponsoring pilgrimage visits of private individuals
3. bring in uniform civil code by default (and religious law only when both parties agree to it)
4. bring in absolute freedom of speech like the US.. you cannot claim hurting religious sentiments and at the same time talk about freedom of conversion..
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Sukumarudu:

believers


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Vjawarrior:

dabbu


idi aapali raaja not conversions..
and common law for all and lift reservations..

this will solve 90% 'xversion' problem..

ee devinni nuv mokkaddu ani cheppadam fundamental right peekesi natte.
next no lanti believers ni kuda roju pujalu/pujalu/namzulu cheymantara endi..

anavasaranga gillu thunnaru prajalu kottuka savalani. :-(
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Sukumarudu:


ipudu ee law techi entha mandiki jobs create chestharu, entha mandiki poors ki food pedatharu?
Next enti veella list lo?


jobs entehes...they are preventing mata kallohams....forced cnversions/dabbu kosam matha maarpidulu eee penta undadu....missxonaries gaallu mana desanni chaal matuku naakinchi denkaru and tirumala lo koooda siggu lekunda chestunnaru....
inka muslims vi kooda baane jarugutunnai,...deenemma ban chesi denkali forced/dabbu encouraged conversions....doola teeruddi....we shud be proud our country....licking cheyakoodadu
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its easy.. allow conversions but monitor church/baba/temple funds..

gaa law thevale kaani conversions banning endira secular country lo?

ipudu ee law techi entha mandiki jobs create chestharu, entha mandiki poors ki food pedatharu?
Next enti veella list lo?

Modi ante koncham soft corner undedi development gurunchi matladathadani.. veedi minosters mps endi noru ippithe hindu, temples, conversions.. yedava santha.
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Polyglot:

for example...AR rehman kurrodu personal reasons ki convert ayyadu.....adhi unlawful ante, it will be a shame on a secular country like India...ani naa adhi...




avunu..mari christians/muslims hindus gaa convert ayithe mana secular country lo lolli enduku chestunaaru..


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Emc2:

Ploy uncle force conversions or weakness ni base chesukune conversions has to stop

Evarina vallaki vallu convert ayithe that should not be stopped


unkl i agree......but how can u determine which conversion is forced and which one is for a personal belief....Law loo mari clear gaa adhi differentiate cheyyagaligithe case ledhu...but how is it possible?

for example...AR rehman kurrodu personal reasons ki convert ayyadu.....adhi unlawful ante, it will be a shame on a secular country like India...ani naa adhi...
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Blackday063013:

i know there is no point in arguing with you.


neelantollani answer cheyyadu ani already cheppanu.....ainaa G loo gulekki dhooraavaa...lol



Polyglot:

chest thumping religious fanatics please stay away...


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as usual start..chrisitian conversions =religious freedom..
hindu conversion= radicalism..

anti conversion bill ante malli no..religious freedom hurt..lol..

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Blackday063013:

first of all.why the government has to give money to haj???..daaniki matuku oka thread vundadu...ikkadaki vochi malli neethulu..


mee govt power lo undi gaa haj subsidy ruddu cheyimanu... elli laagi thenchi kattalu kattamanu... mee vaalla mogathanam cheeyinchamanu !

manodu magaadu monagaade kaani nulaka mancham addem unte kaani sthanam cheyadu !
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Emc2:

Ploy uncle force conversions or weakness ni base chesukune conversions has to stop

Evarina vallaki vallu convert ayithe that should not be stopped





exactly..BJP emaina cheste..chaalu..ventane..pant shirt vesukuni ready ayipotaaru.

first of all.why the government has to give money to haj???..daaniki matuku oka thread vundadu...ikkadaki vochi malli neethulu..
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Masularex:

I've the power... so, my way or the highway, you snake !!!




avunu..yes..like how the leaders gave some part of india...this is nothing in front of that..vaalu adigaaru..veelu ichaaru..about how they gave telangana by cutting the live...
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when the complete act is enacted, then only one can comment, nevertheless a step in this direction should be welcomed specifically when there is fraud involved
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Ploy uncle force conversions or weakness ni base chesukune conversions has to stop

Evarina vallaki vallu convert ayithe that should not be stopped
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Polyglot:

How is this not a violation of an individual's freedom to puruse his own path to salvation?

any sane mind, answer me...chest thumping religious fanatics please stay away...




allaga ayithe why sickular parties are opposing so much when very few muslims got converted..just see in andhra side, people are getting converted left and right due to money.. i know there is no point in arguing with you.
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Polyglot:

How is this not a violation of an individual's freedom to puruse his own path to salvation?

any sane mind, answer me...chest thumping religious fanatics please stay away...


I've the power... so, my way or the highway, you snake !!!
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How is this not a violation of an individual's freedom to puruse his own path to salvation?

any sane mind, answer me...chest thumping religious fanatics please stay away...
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how about a pro conversion bill ???

mana nri hindu jagaran samathi antha thamiki thochini vidanga chandalu iste manchi fund ikkata cheyocchu... paisa mein porrattma annattu manam kuda conversions gatra seyocchu... naa varuku ayithe bill books free gaa print cheyistaa !!!
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good job
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Go BJP Go
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good job
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good job..we need more of this..mari too much minority licking in this country especially by congress
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http://www.niticentral.com/2014/12/20/bjp-rss-press-anti-con version-law-292479.html

BJP, RSS press for anti-Conversion law

In the wake of Agra reconversion row, BJP and RSS have pressed for a law against illegal conversion.

Addressing a public rally in Kolkata on Saturday, RSS Sarasanghchalak Mohan Bhagwat said, “Bring a law against conversion in Parliament if you don’t like conversions.”

The RSS chief said those opposing conversion of people from other religions to Hinduism should first stop the conversion of Hindus to other faiths.

“If you don’t want to change into a Hindu, then you should not convert the Hindus too.” Bhagwat said.

Bhagwat’s comments came on a day BJP president Amit Shah pitched for an anti-conversion law and wanted other political parties to support such a measure in the Parliament.

“BJP is the only political party in the country that opposes forceful conversion. The so-called secular parties should come forward to support an anti-conversion legislation,” Shah told reporters in Kochi.

The BJP president said further steps on the legislation can be taken up only after a consensus is evolved among political parties.

Article 25 of the Indian Constitution grants to citizens of all religious persuasions freedom to profess, practise and propagate their faith in a way that does not disrupt public order and does not affect public health and morality adversely.

Three pieces on the current debate over the alleged conversions/ re-conversion that would be relevant from Offstumped Archives.

The first is on what Mahatma Gandhi had to say about Proselytism and Conversions.

The second is on why there should be a “Do No Proselytize” Registry in a manner no different from a “Do Not Call” Registry.

The third is on the International Legal Debate on Proselytism in other Countries and Legal Limits on Evangelical Free Speech.

The fact of the matter is that conversion through inducement, fraud and force is taking place in the country. Illegal conversion is creating discontentment in the society. Only an anti-conversion law can stop fraudulent conversion.

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