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Analog
Side Hero Username: Analog
Post Number: 3664 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 76.185.162.123
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 05:12 pm: |
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Thokkalohdi:Thokkalo MS complete kakapothey evadiki ekkuva,,, adey company lo job kottachu kada.
phD..intha daka vachi degree vadulukotam kastam kada...malli 4,5 years evaru spend chestharu |
   
Analog
Side Hero Username: Analog
Post Number: 3662 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 76.185.162.123
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 05:06 pm: |
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idantha chusthunte A first graduate ayi, startup petti XYZ ki work cheyatam better la undi |
   
Thokkalohdi
Side Hero Username: Thokkalohdi
Post Number: 4789 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 24.130.117.120
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 04:51 pm: |
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Analog:evari share(A,X and adviser) ela decide cheyyali? is it too early for student A to talk to adviser about the share and rights?
nirmohamatam ga paisa paisa lekka pettukovadam better. If Student A is from india, consult International Student Affairs and get a lawyers help. If amount exceed some amount, then its life changing kada.. enduku risk cheyyatam. Valuation kuda correct ga cheyinchukomanandi. Thokkalo MS complete kakapothey evadiki ekkuva,,, adey company lo job kottachu kada. Ranbir Kapoor is god of acting |
   
Saint
Legend Username: Saint
Post Number: 43198 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 04:51 pm: |
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Abcdefghij: akkada "X" published his work inka kukka nakka jantha nahi... if A filed for patent he might get it first but if X shows his work which is published then A will not get patent or gets his patent cancelled
not true. existing patent ni teesukuni daniko inko add-on add chesi new patent lekka file cheyyochu! if u r doing the exactly same thing, then u cant file a patent.... comedy septha vinu....Sun solaris eTrace ani oka feature patent chesaru..immeidate ga IBM AIX vallu DTrace ni makki makki copy kotti, with some changes implement chesi dobbaru along with patents.... |
   
Analog
Side Hero Username: Analog
Post Number: 3661 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 76.185.162.123
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 04:48 pm: |
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Abcdefghij:if A is a research assistant then sponsor gets the max benefits i guess..
I think you are right...yep he funded this research (course fee and stipend)..University makes students sign lot of papers at the time of admission..andulo emi untundo appudu chudam... Abcdefghij:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_to_file_and_first_to_inve nt#Example
news to me... Buduguuu:db lo kurchuni govt tappulni dead easy ga cheppe capacity unna Vallu manollu.. talk to an attorney pls
lil bit of research before contacting the attorney... |
   
Abcdefghij
Hero Username: Abcdefghij
Post Number: 15220 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 99.59.193.29
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 04:46 pm: |
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Saint:ideas emundi kukkani thanthe vasthayi..
akkada "X" published his work inka kukka nakka jantha nahi... if A filed for patent he might get it first but if X shows his work which is published then A will not get patent or gets his patent cancelled http://gallery.greatandhra.com/upload/8563/images/_211398452008.jpg |
   
Saint
Legend Username: Saint
Post Number: 43194 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 04:44 pm: |
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Abcdefghij:
vaarni idi eppudu change chsaru....I used to work with ppl who had filed patents...I was asked to file patent but I was not interested to file for some company and it was not high value patent...appati knowledge pekaram seppanu.... ee new scheme ithe companies ki brokka kadaa? @analog akkai, with this new law, X can claim credit anytime....u need to involve X also. but idi Research assistant laaga work chesindi ithe, may be the ownership goes to college or professor..not sure... |
   
Abcdefghij
Hero Username: Abcdefghij
Post Number: 15219 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 99.59.193.29
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 04:35 pm: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_to_file_and_first_to_inve nt#Example http://gallery.greatandhra.com/upload/8563/images/_211398452008.jpg |
   
Buduguuu
Megastar Username: Buduguuu
Post Number: 21935 Registered: 01-2012 Posted From: 107.77.76.108
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 04:34 pm: |
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Akka dB li8 ilanti vaatiki.. meeku comforting answers dorukutai ani tappa Picha li8 ani my view.. db lo kurchuni govt tappulni dead easy ga cheppe capacity unna Vallu manollu.. talk to an attorney pls Before others dobbs, nenu jump amma |
   
Abcdefghij
Hero Username: Abcdefghij
Post Number: 15217 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 99.59.193.29
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 04:34 pm: |
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Saint:nee idea ina nuvvu patent seyyakunda pakkanodu sethe aadike ryts vuntayi! ideas emundi kukkani thanthe vasthayi...danini implement cheyatam important...for that A took 4 years...
US lo kadu...it used to be but not http://gallery.greatandhra.com/upload/8563/images/_211398452008.jpg |
   
Saint
Legend Username: Saint
Post Number: 43192 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 04:29 pm: |
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Ringo_rangaswamy:
oka sari patent file ssethe aa pappulu vudakav.. nee idea ina nuvvu patent seyyakunda pakkanodu sethe aadike ryts vuntayi! ideas emundi kukkani thanthe vasthayi...danini implement cheyatam important...for that A took 4 years... |
   
Abcdefghij
Hero Username: Abcdefghij
Post Number: 15214 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 99.59.193.29
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 04:21 pm: |
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Analog:An international Student 'A' developed a tool
if A is a research assistant then sponsor gets the max benefits i guess.. usually the contract we sign to get fees waived/salary etc it all depends but its usually the professor/sponsor who gets more royalty than student unless student proposed the whole idea to begin with if student proposed the idea then the student needs to have the initial letter/email to prove the case. if both A and X are research assistants may be A has more weight... but X will be the author and patent winner as he already published his work... i know "A" has completed or get it to shape but patents and ideas will go who first had the idea... http://gallery.greatandhra.com/upload/8563/images/_211398452008.jpg |
   
Analog
Side Hero Username: Analog
Post Number: 3660 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 129.110.242.50
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 03:42 pm: |
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Ringo_rangaswamy: X can win the case as long as he can establish that it was his original work.
Thanks....you also answered my other big question what A should do in the event of successful scenario and adviser keeps him/her out of the loop.....I guess for now A should just leave it and let the adviser handle XYZ.... |
   
Ringo_rangaswamy
Side Hero Username: Ringo_rangaswamy
Post Number: 9872 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 162.134.88.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 02:41 pm: |
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Ringo_rangaswamy:take permission in writing from A
take permission in writing from X ani sadookondi. |
   
Ringo_rangaswamy
Side Hero Username: Ringo_rangaswamy
Post Number: 9871 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 162.134.88.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 02:40 pm: |
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Annai, if the tool has not much $$ value or reputation, chances are X cares aath about it. But if X cares about it and wants to sue, he can do that even if there is no patent. X can win the case as long as he can establish that it was his original work. (For example, worked with professors, made presentations in class rooms etc). Normal gaa companies wont allow matter to come to this level. They try to manage it when the issue is manageable. It is better either A or XYZ contact X and take permission in writing from A relieving his rights on his material and pay X some $$$. |
   
Analog
Side Hero Username: Analog
Post Number: 3659 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 129.110.242.50
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 02:19 pm: |
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Saint:akkai, technically base vere valladi ina,danini top up chesi actual work chesindi A ne..so A can cliam its his product..since he spent 4 years...also paralel ga patent file jeyyamanu!! dabbante evariki chedu....A & advisor can share the money! advisor kooda oppukuntadu.....patent lo A & advisor iddaru names ettukovachu..so they can share future revenues.!
Thanks bro for valuable inputs!!
Dreamcatcher:Student A can broach the subject with adviser as if he/she is inquiring about patent process, if it is worth getting one for their work, etc.
tool is not 100% ready yet to use on industrial designs....so the owner/patent topic never came up until XYZ is interested to try and concerned about outcome scenario.. moreover it takes atleast 6 more months for A to make it work on XYZ platform ....which means delaying graduation... |
   
Dreamcatcher
Side Hero Username: Dreamcatcher
Post Number: 6637 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 02:01 pm: |
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Analog:.Student A is very close to graduation and dont want to ruin the relation with adviser(Already X and adviser are not in good terms)...topic ela raise cheyyali annadi problem...
am surprised adviser hasn't brought up patenting already... Student A can broach the subject with adviser as if he/she is inquiring about patent process, if it is worth getting one for their work, etc. |
   
Dreamcatcher
Side Hero Username: Dreamcatcher
Post Number: 6636 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 01:57 pm: |
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Analog:but it takes long time to complete the legal process and paper work....
Doesn't matter, meeru file chesi padesthay, you can always claim that "patent is pending". |
   
Saint
Legend Username: Saint
Post Number: 43185 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 01:53 pm: |
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Analog: XYZ company communicated directly to Student A...now A has to talk to adviser about this....patent file chestha ani adagatam gud idea...but it takes long time to complete the legal process and paper work....XYZ is expecting an answer immediately....Student A is very close to graduation and dont want to ruin the relation with adviser(Already X and adviser are not in good terms)...topic ela raise cheyyali annadi problem...
akkai, technically base vere valladi ina,danini top up chesi actual work chesindi A ne..so A can cliam its his product..since he spent 4 years...also paralel ga patent file jeyyamanu!! dabbante evariki chedu....A & advisor can share the money! advisor kooda oppukuntadu.....patent lo A & advisor iddaru names ettukovachu..so they can share future revenues.! |
   
Analog
Side Hero Username: Analog
Post Number: 3658 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 76.185.162.123
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 01:26 pm: |
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Emc2:See if he has any patents any trade marks
Saint:X patent chesi vundaka pothe, A immediate ga patent file cehsukovali...
Emc2:See if he has any patents any trade marks
no patents... XYZ company communicated directly to Student A...now A has to talk to adviser about this....patent file chestha ani adagatam gud idea...but it takes long time to complete the legal process and paper work....XYZ is expecting an answer immediately....Student A is very close to graduation and dont want to ruin the relation with adviser(Already X and adviser are not in good terms)...topic ela raise cheyyali annadi problem... |
   
Saint
Legend Username: Saint
Post Number: 43175 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 01:21 pm: |
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just idea ithe evadu ina use chesukovachu...patent vundi, use chsukunte, u have to talk to the patent holder... X patent chesi vundaka pothe, A immediate ga patent file cehsukovali... papers publish chesinantha mathrana (IEEE/ACE/etc), emi kaadu...u need to have a patent..I think! |
   
Emc2
Legend Username: Emc2
Post Number: 37335 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 166.137.244.90
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 01:17 pm: |
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Very complicated , my suggestion is don,t take any suggestions from DB See if he has any patents any trade marks Wrk it out with him |
   
Analog
Side Hero Username: Analog
Post Number: 3657 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 129.110.242.50
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 - 01:05 pm: |
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Experts Plz advise An international Student 'A' developed a tool ( Not from scratch, Student X started the work and abandoned it long back...but he did publish some papers on this work...student A spent 4 years to get it to a shape)..Now company XYZ wants to try this tool and if they find it useful and valuable, they have a legal question about who owns it and how much they have to pay for the rights to use it... evari share(A,X and adviser) ela decide cheyyali? is it too early for student A to talk to adviser about the share and rights? |