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Anand_n
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As long as the requirements are clearly understood and proper resourcing is in place with any methodology team feel happy
It is not te agile which is making the teams happy




You are over simplifyng :-) But i agree , it is not textbook agile or SAFE that is making my teams happy and productive. it is our customised implemntation of agile , with the processes we built to shield the teams from the external noise and churn so the teams could work unhindered with full participation from the business and hence build trust, these are the things that delivered those results..Daniel Pink autonomy, mastery , purpose is important for motivation antadu - very true - that is what makes people happy at work :-)
And it is not a one-off lucky strike. I ran $12m in projects this year thru my custom model with consistent results :-)

So adapt and flex the different methodologies to your company and team constraints is what I recommend:-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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Guruji, i didn't mean to offend you. I see the difference in the slide you put and I thought of reminding so that you can correct if it's typo and also one of my friends last name is same. I am sorry if it hurts.
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Guruji, intiperu, misspell ayindaa leka records lo atlage unda?




Naa intiperu meedha neeku enduku antha aboubtu??


evadooo inti peru pettukunye antha diga jaara ledhu

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Agile, Scrum gurinchi simple terms lo long story aina parledu cheppandi, vinalani undi




Project manager, lead programmer, senior programmers attend a meeting.

An intern joins the meeting and says...

"Annayyaa.. ee tokkalo meetings ento artham kaavatam ledu. Naalugu baggulu (the bugs) vunnaayi.fix cheseste... intiki podaam"
Naannaa puli story - oka visha vruksham http://games-n-maths.in/blog/funstrations/story_analysis.html
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constant end user feed back


this is the biggest advantage of scrum anukuntuna
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As long as the requirements are clearly understood and proper resourcing is in place with any methodology team feel happy

It is not te agile which is making the teams happy, creait goes to all of your efforts t make sure requirements are clearly drafted and right resources in place

Most of the waterfall cases, team agree for Fixed and deploy the team resouces on some other project and suddenly when the current project timelines ate at sight do a hurry burry job by passing most of the check points result in a nasty output.

Agreeable sprints with clarity , constant end user feed back to work cheyyatam etho melu
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Cocanada:

"you cannot say this is not my area..you have to learn and do" ani




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mee vodiki sare iyaala nenu nee role sesthaan.. nuvv naa role seyyi ani seppu
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Anand_n:

Use common sense and judgement


okay . maa vodu alaa cheppi chachaaDu. "you cannot say this is not my area..you have to learn and do" ani
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Cocanada:

what do you think about "anyone should work on any task" principle




this is highly misunderstood principle in agile. each to his skill set, needs to focus on his tasks, but if there is someone with similar skill set, the ownership of the task should be transferable between themselves. UI design chese vadini backend work cheyamani kadhu, in agile they work together closely instead in each of their own dens.

Agile is not ONLY for software development, its for entire product development, it involves non engineering groups too.
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Agile is being agile about what you need to do to get the work done - it is not about blindly following any documented principles - not even "agile principles" :-) In anycase agile does not prescribe thar tester should code or business user should build technical design - Use common sense and judgement- for that matter a host developer cannot build UI comps :-)

I have teams that are happy, do not work a ton of overtime, and deliver ahead of schedule and under budget - way more effective that other teams running different methodologies in the same bldg :-)

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idhoka worst principle ..edho task sharing varaku ok kaani neeku raani dhani meedha master chesi dead line meet avvamantene chiraak ..unfortunately that is what happens in agile


haha

i think somebody at VP said - "i dont care who does it, how they do it. just get the F'ing thing done. dont give me this resource constraing BS again"

and some PM documented it in parliamentary language as agile principle
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Cocanada:

what do you think about "anyone should work on any task" principle




idhoka worst principle ..edho task sharing varaku ok kaani neeku raani dhani meedha master chesi dead line meet avvamantene chiraak ..unfortunately that is what happens in agile
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Anand_n:

I am actually advising one of those with setting up a model that will keep them agile and connected.



chudali

what do you think about "anyone should work on any task" principle
i am dead against it. they commonly quote example of developer working on QA activities. but vice versa is impossible.
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Funny you should ask :-) Some of you may recall the highstakes experiment I talked about at the begining of the year in conjunction with the AAP expt to fundamentally change the way we work projects :-) Well AAP failed miserablty but ours was a resounding success and now the services teams like yours want to jump on the band wagon :-) I am actually advising one of those with setting up a model that will keep them agile and connected.

But adi DB lo transmit chese info kadu - so I would advise talking to an sgile consultant for your group/company :-)

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>>j4f
rally jira etc
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Anand_n:


Short answer , NO
Long answer - if you want to claim you are running agile and write long essays to justify and explain how - go ahead - we call that scrummerfall or wagile


vokay

my problem is - we are shared services team. we are part of many projects but never part of their teams. we cant spend so much time in sprint planning and reviews with all the teams. and more importantly sit along with them

i like the idea of 2 week sprints, daily meetings, burndown chart, demo etc but we can do it if they consider our team as independent scrum
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Guruji, intiperu, misspell ayindaa leka records lo atlage unda?
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Here is my PPT in Slideshare with 23k views

http://www.slideshare.net/MarrajuBollapRagada/agile-vs-itera tivevswaterfall

Actually it is animated Video, but animation is disabled in SlideShare
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBIfjgfl4Ng



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Rbabu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU0llRltyFM


Very well explained video. Thx for sharing.


Now ee Agile methodology ki companies common ga vade tools enti?
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work kaadu...multiple teams working on a 1 product ante agile kaani not the other way round...

priciple of agile itself is avoid juggling of tasks...multitasking avoid cheyyali with lean software development...so multiple projects handle cheste ee badha untaadi...agile will fail...alaane common backlog for multiple projects is impossible...it doesnt meet the agile principles
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agile is state of mind ani ragul cheppamannadu...
jaaga bokka model...
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Agile, Scrum



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU0llRltyFM
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Agile, Scrum gurinchi simple terms lo long story aina parledu cheppandi, vinalani undi


agile ante roju coolie lekka ye roju em chesav ani cheppali.. waterfall ante contractor lekka.. weekly once or monthly once..asalu update ivvakapoina parledu annatlu.. :D
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enti.. oka team ni multiple projects share chesukuntunnaya.. 1st time vintunna.. oka project ni multiple teams share chesukotam telusu..
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Mental_sachinodu:

engineer rathri koorsoni, code sange sesi production deployment sesthaad.


agile at heart.... :D.... Model lekapodam eti...it's a variation of agile you see....
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fikileaks,
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Agile, Scrum gurinchi simple terms lo long story aina parledu cheppandi, vinalani undi


simple annai idi kind of micro management ni polished ga vadatam lantidi....intaku mundu waterfall methodology lo edo oka day week lo meeting etti emi cehsav ani chusevallu...ala neeku edina prob vaste product 3 months build ayyaka back ki poyi mottham change sseyyatam pedda bokka...anduke agile ani etti planning etc baga chesi day to day activities chusukunta ela nadustundo scrum lo disko chestaru....scrum management ki tools like rally inka user stories ani business vallu tayaru sestar....block by block build sestaru kabatti edina prob vaste modatlone telsi potadi...sprints untayi every 3 week release or what ever time...so ee sprint lo bayata padda bugs ni next sprint lo back log laga ettesi oka pakkana fixing kuda chesta untaru backlog grooming...ee over all proceess ni scrum master susta untadu..like circus lo jantuvulni adinchatam laga....
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Sure.

Share chesukunna projects andarinee stories raayamani cheppi, product owners andarnee kalasi prioritize cheyyamante sari.


Product owners need to meet among themselves, have one rep for team interaction and rest of them come whenever their story is picked.
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Short answer , NO:-)
Long answer - if you want to claim you are running agile and write long essays to justify and explain how - go ahead - we call that scrummerfall or wagile :-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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Agile method should be implemented in all projects where the team members are part of. Oka section valle use chesthe CBN raithu runamafee type lo untundi.
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Total ga paniki vastundi. Based on resource hours, you can move forward with deadlines. We are currently following this model.
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Guru:

Colocation chala important agile ki..offshore team tho mabbu vidipoddy




its doable but can get pretty tough. okappudu team antha same place lo unde vallam... ippud na team antha russia lo undhi, and recently in more city in USA add ayyindhi. only me in the city i reside. probably it works because im the only alone, and the rest of the team has team members around. online chat tho naduputhunnaan bandi... but yes, it gets much easier if all at one place.

most days nen naa room lo ninsi bayataki kooda raan... door open sesthe coffee machine, dhaaniki 5 steps pakkana rest room. earlier i used to go for running sometimes during lunch, last 2 to 3 months ninchi once in office i barely take 100 steps :D , and speak 100 words a day with folks around :D
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Colocation chala important agile ki..offshore team tho mabbu vidipoddy
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Mental_sachinodu:



Bullabbai:


meekee stories lo maaki tasklu iste kastam

naaki stories naaki raaskuntai mee stories ninchi ani cheppa

ledu..story ki business ki direct ga relation undaali. madhya lo ilaati laati maarchukodaal levu antaaru
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Agile, Scrum gurinchi simple terms lo long story aina parledu cheppandi, vinalani undi
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the entire team involved with product development needs to be on agile and should understand, otherwise there will be too much pressure on the team.

maa company merger ayaaka... torture pergindhi... the other company does not have a model yet all.. evado email sesthad... engineer rathri koorsoni, code sange sesi production deployment sesthaad... expecting same after the merger, and it is making us seem like fools as we are delaying the "delivery" process, unfortunately, the merged company retained the entire department(not related to IT) from the other company, top down from VP :D . kotha pelli koduku septhe inad, gillithe edusthaad tyfe thayarayyindhi...


battam line.. oka team agile lo ettedham peru baagundhi kadha ani try sesthe.. dhoola theerthadhi :D
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Just4fun:

yep. excel endukantunnate..project status, resource allocation ..eppudu ee project live ki ellalli anni excel lo chestunnadu maa manager gadu kiki


ohhh that is the that aaa....vaakey ley ithey
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You can run the multiple scrums with the same team.. But its not recommended to run 5 to 7 same time.. Instead merge them into 2 streams and run as 2 scrums
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okka team agile ayithe use undadu, all the teams that involve in that project have to be agile..

Frontend to backend antha agile lo untene workout avutundi ani naa 5 yrs agile experience goshsistundi...
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Batthar_bindaas:

Waterfall laaga adoka methodology


yep. excel endukantunnate..project status, resource allocation ..eppudu ee project live ki ellalli anni excel lo chestunnadu maa manager gadu kiki
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Just4fun:

maa cleint agile ani rachha leputunte maa manager gaadu no unna pata old excel chalu ani side chestunnadu.


agile ki excel ki link yendappaa.... Agile antey toool anukuntunnaveymo.... Waterfall laaga adoka methodology...
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paniki vasthadi, and it depends upon work load also,
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Cokam nuvvvu manager aa ? maa cleint agile ani rachha leputunte maa manager gaadu no unna pata old excel chalu ani side chestunnadu.
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Anni projects ki okade product owner/BA ahh?
http://bit.ly/1v1kxSu
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meshtaaru

if a team is shared for multiple projects (5 to 7)

agile panikostundaa? adopt cheskundama odhaa ani thinking

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