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     Hyd7hills Junior Artist Username: Hyd7hills Post Number: 44 Registered: 11-2014 Posted From: 49.207.228.209 Rating: |
current VGTM population is around 25 lakh... if you include areas under proposed ORR, it would be ~40 lakh in the other thread we have seen how the people are benefited due to RE gain and how their expenditure would be... lets look at daily labor daily labor in farming gets rs 350 per day for 200 days a year. Now in construction they get Rs 400 per day for 300 days.. earlier they were getting 350*200 = 70K and now they get 400*300 = 120K per anum... They will be benefited by 50,000 per year... land owners anyway benefited from few lakhs to few crores.. considering the increase in income, if you assume avg increase in spend is Rs 10,000 in FMCG sector... then total increase would 40 lakh * 10,000 = 4000 cr... House constructions + FMCG spend would cause +ve impact to the overall growth (including population), so wont be surprised if you match Hyd in the next 10-15 years... | ||
| Royyala_nayudu Side Hero Username: Royyala_nayudu Post Number: 2583 Registered: 04-2014 Posted From: 205.144.127.200 Rating: N/A |
Investor confidence is utmost important for Hyd. TRS and Co have successfully alienated 60%(AP people who invest) of real estate buyers in Hyd. Services sector would still thrive in Hyd because of the available resources, Talent pool, cheap Real Estate. Manufacturing would not thrive because of power shortage in Telangana. One more biggest problem is the nature in which Telangana was formed and the basic DNA of TRS which is agitations. Agitations are never good for a stable economy they will derail development and send investors away. If Farmer suicides mount up at the same rate as the last 6 months they will come to Hyd to agitate and opposition parties will join them. It will be a big blow to Telangana/Hyd. If there is no such disturbance, It will be a downward trend as far as RE is concerned to Hyd for the next 5 years but long term the prospects look good. I don't think any city in AP will be able to evolve as big as Hyd in the next 5-15 years. | ||
| Hyd7hills Junior Artist Username: Hyd7hills Post Number: 43 Registered: 11-2014 Posted From: 49.207.228.209 Rating: N/A |
few ante entha mandi enni years lo move ayite paravaledhu? overall investments/economy slow ayindhi ga 2008-09 lo (of course across india), mari hyd infrastructure help chesinda aa time lo local jobs ki? ade level lo investments shift avvava or employee shift valla indirect empl impact avvada? | ||
| Siloan Legend Username: Siloan Post Number: 40918 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
Hyd infrastructure is severely over burdened..// paanch laakh aslee hyderabaadiyon ke liye katta badda nagar | ||
| Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 34015 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.55.83 Rating: N/A |
Hyd infrastructure is severely over burdened..so if few people leave it is not bad. India is urbanizing at a very fast rate..in another 10 year..more than 40% of the population will be in Urban areas..so we need more cities..to accomodate this urbanization.. | ||
| Hyd7hills Junior Artist Username: Hyd7hills Post Number: 42 Registered: 11-2014 Posted From: 49.207.228.209 Rating: N/A |
good you all referred many cities... in all those cases common theme is 'job loss/job shift', reasons are different from city to city... you might have checked my other threads.. can we say 'not many jobs move out of hyd'.. IT jobs may not move, what about others? what is your estimated numbers in terms of AP Govt empl movement, some private jobs (could be more if spl package is given), Construction workers etc.. how many indirect employees be impacted? Whatever is your guess, will it be good to happen in 10 years or 2/3 years or 20 years? what should be the political leadership style to make that process slow so that you create other oppurtunities in the mean time? note: focus is mainly on how u want to mitigate the risk? what change is needed.. | ||
| Kukatpally Hero Username: Kukatpally Post Number: 12182 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 57.69.14.65 Rating: N/A |
Kwame gaadu sinna yelaka anthe kada Detroit lo  | ||
| Kukatpally Hero Username: Kukatpally Post Number: 12181 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 57.69.14.65 Rating: N/A |
yep... cleveland,toledo,akron,youngstown etc etc cities surrounding Detroit slightly dependent on Detroit but they were able to diversify... for example cleveland... health care(2 of the best hospitals) and insurance(progressive) side manchi investments vunnayi... slowly coming out of the mess cleveland varaku but Detroit ki aa chance ledu | ||
| Royyala_nayudu Side Hero Username: Royyala_nayudu Post Number: 2576 Registered: 04-2014 Posted From: 205.144.127.200 Rating: N/A |
Unions are good for workers rights but the biggest downsize is they will prevent people from adapting to change, none in the world survived not adapting to change. | ||
| Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 17275 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.151.251.178 Rating: N/A |
i thought Kwame Kilpatrick killed Det.. and their prisons.. too much budget devouring prisons.. | ||
| Side Hero Username: Reddit Post Number: 9344 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.19.131 Rating: N/A |
roju Hyderabad gurinchi enni threads adathaayi DB la ne la react ayyithana get data myaan  We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others. | ||
| Sonyvaio Hero Username: Sonyvaio Post Number: 13424 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 208.242.14.200 Rating: N/A |
royaa ki oka manasu untadi, aa manasulo okadini korukuntundi anna level lo cheppav | ||
| Hero Side Hero Username: Hero Post Number: 6419 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 38.101.193.194 Rating: N/A |
one and only reason...UAW killed Detriot they are ok till they dont have any competition from Japan/Germany... unions/Socialism/Communism/freebies to poor people never worked any where. | ||
| Sonyvaio Hero Username: Sonyvaio Post Number: 13423 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 208.242.14.200 Rating: N/A |
hello essusmee, nenu ikkada 5 years nunchi untanaa naaku kuda telvadu antav, kaani | ||
| Royyala_nayudu Side Hero Username: Royyala_nayudu Post Number: 2574 Registered: 04-2014 Posted From: 205.144.127.200 Rating: N/A |
But still it houses a number of Insurance companies and other Fortune 100 companies, so it does attract capital. | ||
| Side Hero Username: Reddit Post Number: 9343 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.19.131 Rating: N/A |
move avvatam and lot of consolidation happened in the insurance sector so jobs were cut down. We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others. | ||
| Side Hero Username: Reddit Post Number: 9342 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.19.131 Rating: N/A |
Scale was big and there was no diversification at all. We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others. | ||
| Side Hero Username: Reddit Post Number: 9341 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.19.131 Rating: N/A |
anna ki oka Soda  We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others. | ||
| Rajin Side Hero Username: Rajin Post Number: 6194 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 63.250.254.2 Rating: N/A |
okappadu name a continue chetshunnaru ' insurance capital of the world' eppudu chaala move ayipoyayi antaa NYC,minnesota,even des moines | ||
| Savyasachi Junior Artist Username: Savyasachi Post Number: 527 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 144.160.130.91 Rating: N/A |
whole economy of detroit is based on auto industry. selling cars in only a small reason. the biggest culprit is the auto unions vallu mati mati ki strike ane vallu. the law says if a company has say N number of employess the a state , the employees can form union and the company have to say now or some thing of that sort. so to over come this union bs the companies shut down many plants around detroit and spread them across the country with less number of employees so that they cant form union. ppl in those closed plants did not chose to move to the new location . thats the main reason for the job loss because of lost jobs all the associated industries also lost their revenue like insurance, utilities and retail. its like a chain reaction. | ||
| Side Hero Username: Reddit Post Number: 9340 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.19.131 Rating: N/A |
Not anymore We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others. | ||
| Royyala_nayudu Side Hero Username: Royyala_nayudu Post Number: 2573 Registered: 04-2014 Posted From: 205.144.127.200 Rating: N/A |
Okappudu Chiru fan ni ippudu Chiru ni criticize cheyyadam meeru thattukolekapothunnaru. Burrunodu evadanna Chiru politics lo chesina panulaki thidathadu, meeru cheyyaru chesinollani bad cheyyali so u guys find some stupid reasons to do so. It is my prerogative to follow Mahesh/Pawan, I do not need anyone's approval. | ||
| Royyala_nayudu Side Hero Username: Royyala_nayudu Post Number: 2572 Registered: 04-2014 Posted From: 205.144.127.200 Rating: N/A |
Common amongs Hartford, Det and Cleveland is that manufacturing got screwed and these towns went down. Also Unions played a big role, they were not willing to relinquish somethings finally everything went downhill. The scale of Detroit is much more than Cleveland or Hartford so it is very hard for Detroit to reinvent itself. It is a shrinking town. | ||
| Side Hero Username: Reddit Post Number: 9338 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.19.131 Rating: N/A |
nijalu alane vuntaay  We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others. | ||
| Sonyvaio Hero Username: Sonyvaio Post Number: 13422 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 208.242.14.200 Rating: N/A |
hartford is insurance capital  | ||
| Side Hero Username: Reddit Post Number: 9337 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.19.131 Rating: N/A |
This is where SS and tiger helped the city by breaking the trade unions in Mumbai. Mumbai lo left parties were super strong even now they have good influence in certain pockets. We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others. | ||
| Side Hero Username: Reddit Post Number: 9336 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.19.131 Rating: N/A |
US lo isuvanti cities chalane vunnay where they didn't diversify the economy. Top of mind Hartford, cleavland and allentown along with Detroit. Infact whatever happened in Buffalo after 1970s was repeated in Detroit. We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others. | ||
| Sesani Side Hero Username: Sesani Post Number: 8022 Registered: 08-2014 Posted From: 170.200.144.4 Rating: N/A |
ID ledy bhayya.. akkada kuda ROM member unde... CCDB first ID.. | ||
| Royyala_nayudu Side Hero Username: Royyala_nayudu Post Number: 2570 Registered: 04-2014 Posted From: 205.144.127.200 Rating: N/A |
Chiru ni comment cheyyali ante PK ni addu ettukovala? OT kooda Pawan ni addu ettukone Chiru ni thiduthunda? emi thinking ra needhi /spit HudHud ki appu chesi mari 50 lakhs ichadu Pawan. | ||
| Royyala_nayudu Side Hero Username: Royyala_nayudu Post Number: 2569 Registered: 04-2014 Posted From: 205.144.127.200 Rating: N/A |
There is a stark difference in the way those cities were governed which directly affected the outcome, so Mumbai being more capitalistic recovered, Kolkata being more communist screwed up. | ||
| Side Hero Username: Reddit Post Number: 9335 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.19.131 Rating: N/A |
ne level lo oka warning kuda isthe padi vuntadhi  We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others. | ||
| Kukatpally Hero Username: Kukatpally Post Number: 12179 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 57.69.14.65 Rating: N/A |
ejjactly 'rediscover' key word ikkada... ee BIG3 gaalu aa chance ivvaru Detroit ki... emotional blackmailing type daridrulu | ||
| Side Hero Username: Reddit Post Number: 9333 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.19.131 Rating: N/A |
adhi okkate kadu allu arjun ki fanning chestha charan ni kuda  We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others. | ||
| Amara Hero Username: Amara Post Number: 17853 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 49.205.179.36 Rating: N/A |
 inka chusukuntaa... | ||
| Kukatpally Hero Username: Kukatpally Post Number: 12178 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 57.69.14.65 Rating: N/A |
ee Detroit nakeyadaniki inko reason... city is run by BIG 3 tappu ledu they shld have a say... any major decision city makes will directly affect BIG3 and vice versa kaani ee BIG3 control over detroit ye range ki poyindi ante... public transportation system in detroit is the worst for any large metro in US... reason BIG 3 don't want city to expand public transportation last decade lo almost Chicago politicians tho poti padi mari corruption sesaru Detroit politician gaalu... wht ever BIG3 wants... yes sir type poni intha chesina city nundi manufacturing units move cheyyakunda vuntara ante adi ledu.. cheap ga makku labor tax benefits dorike texas ki moving most of the units for their profits city oolu diversified economy kosam try sedam ante almost all antha ee 3 companies kabja chesi kurchunnaru | ||
| Side Hero Username: Reddit Post Number: 9332 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.19.131 Rating: N/A |
akkada ne id eti? We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others. | ||
| Man_of_masses Legend Username: Man_of_masses Post Number: 31832 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 198.175.154.213 Rating: N/A |
orinee idi marchipoyanandoyy ide khayam chesuko amar annai | ||
| Man_of_masses Legend Username: Man_of_masses Post Number: 31831 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 198.175.154.213 Rating: N/A |
appatlo bhutto appatlo chiru... ippudu pk old id ikkadem ledu... tidb lo judge | ||
| Sesani Side Hero Username: Sesani Post Number: 8018 Registered: 08-2014 Posted From: 170.200.144.4 Rating: N/A |
the one and only Judge from TIDB anta | ||
| Side Hero Username: Reddit Post Number: 9330 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.19.131 Rating: N/A |
mahesh fyaan kaani pk ni addu ettukuni chiru medha comment sethaad.. We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others. | ||
| Sesani Side Hero Username: Sesani Post Number: 8017 Registered: 08-2014 Posted From: 170.200.144.4 Rating: N/A |
Bhayya... Ford and GM innovation ledu and executives messed it up BUT at the same time cost cutting cheddamnu anukunte they couldnt fire anyone because of the unions... company re-organize cheyyanivvaledu unions.. so year after yr losses file chestunnayi ani.... i shouldnt have mentioned abt the inefficient management also in my initial post.. | ||
| Side Hero Username: Reddit Post Number: 9329 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.19.131 Rating: N/A |
Old metros like Mumbai went through the same phase like Detroit with the fall of cotton mills but the city reinvented itself but Kolkatta never recovered from closure of jute mills. Also newer Indian metros are not built around industrial clusters rather the clusters have been established around the metros so a Detroit scenario is not possible in the Indian context now. We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others. | ||
| Amara Hero Username: Amara Post Number: 17852 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 49.205.179.36 Rating: N/A |
ee royyalnaidu evari fanuu..old id enti?  | ||
| Man_of_masses Legend Username: Man_of_masses Post Number: 31830 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 198.175.154.213 Rating: N/A |
anni google chesukunnaka eeda db endukehe | ||
| Royyala_nayudu Side Hero Username: Royyala_nayudu Post Number: 2568 Registered: 04-2014 Posted From: 205.144.127.200 Rating: N/A |
Nee Gola endhi? Google chesuko edava pingani moham nuvvunu  | ||
| Man_of_masses Legend Username: Man_of_masses Post Number: 31825 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 198.175.154.213 Rating: N/A |
ee Pensions endi? Private lo kuda pensions untaya? ee 401k endi malla? SSN endi avi kakunda malla pension aa | ||
| Man_of_masses Legend Username: Man_of_masses Post Number: 31823 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 198.175.154.213 Rating: N/A |
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| Royyala_nayudu Side Hero Username: Royyala_nayudu Post Number: 2564 Registered: 04-2014 Posted From: 205.144.127.200 Rating: N/A |
Excellent thread. Detroit has a multidimensional problem 1) American cars are not able to compete with Japanese in terms of reliability. 2) Manufacturing moving out of Detroit to other location with tax benefits, cost effectiveness and better work force. 3) 1967 Riots which caused a long time effect of capital erosion to the city. We can discuss each point in detail if u guys are interested. | ||
| Kukatpally Hero Username: Kukatpally Post Number: 12175 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 57.69.14.65 Rating: N/A |
crime comes with unemployment... unemployment came with GM/FORD top level executives g-balupu bilak population taggindi anta last decade lo... which is the one of the worest decades any city has ever seen in US unions antara first ford kurrodi time nundi vunayi... unions were there during good,bad and ugly times... so cannot blame them... top level execs gaala eep tanani hide chesukodaniki unions ni blame chestaru same to same mana state lo christie gaadu kuda... he hates unions... reason they kochen him too much | ||
| Sesani Side Hero Username: Sesani Post Number: 8014 Registered: 08-2014 Posted From: 170.200.144.4 Rating: N/A |
agreed bhayya... but with the growth of population, crime + unemployment kuda periginayi and that combined with recession/unions mottam Detroit ni kaanichinayi ani naa idi... | ||
| Kukatpally Hero Username: Kukatpally Post Number: 12171 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 57.69.14.65 Rating: N/A |
Minority (bilaks) population peak lo vunnapudu DETROIT peak lo vunde... Detroit was always a bilak city... yedo kothaga bilak population migrate ayipoyi detroit ni gabbu leparu anukodam tappu
GM,Ford stopped innovating simple ga... R&D dept gaalu nidra poyaru 2 decades solid ga ee rendu chotla which lead to Japanese companies growth in america effect padinidi GM,FORD lo pani sesukune blue collar gaala meeda... again bilaks | ||
| Hyd7hills Junior Artist Username: Hyd7hills Post Number: 40 Registered: 11-2014 Posted From: 49.207.228.209 Rating: N/A |
human evolution lo, hunting nunchi farming ki change ayyamu... aa rojullo latest skills (farming) ki shift ayina vallu & valla families flourish ayyayi.. change kakunda hunting lo unna vallu? mari ee rojullo latest skills ayina people management ni manam correct ga adopt chesukunnama? people management anedhi nothing new... people management in globalization is new... mari mana leaders adopt chesukunnara? chesukuntunnara? chesukuntara? chul hut manaki surplus undi gee stories cheppaku antunnara... | ||
| Sesani Side Hero Username: Sesani Post Number: 8001 Registered: 08-2014 Posted From: 170.200.144.4 Rating: N/A |
Karnudi chaavu ki aneka kaaranalu anattu... Detroit failure ki chaala reasons unnayi... oka vicious circle adi.. -Newguy bhayya cheppinattu Pensions -Minority population - pani bongu lekunda tirugutaaru inka taxes ekkada nunchi vastayi because of which they could never improve the infra -GM, Ford etc Labor union tho issues - Employment licked -Crime rate - because of which constant ga people started moving out.. | ||
| Hyd7hills Junior Artist Username: Hyd7hills Post Number: 39 Registered: 11-2014 Posted From: 49.207.228.209 Rating: N/A |
Detroit ki jariginde exact ga undaka povachu for various reasons.. //India lo is it pissible for metro to slow down// 2008-09 lo chusamga global slow down impact across the India... it wont surprise if that impact restricted to 1 city in future.. | ||
| Risingstar Legend Username: Risingstar Post Number: 34422 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 192.175.182.141 Rating: N/A |
gootle annai from detroit Reddy is not casete "its way of life" - Gootle annai on Sunday 29th March 2009 | ||
| Hyd7hills Junior Artist Username: Hyd7hills Post Number: 38 Registered: 11-2014 Posted From: 49.207.228.209 Rating: N/A |
jobs loss ayina shift ayina impact ela untundhi anataniki Detroit example.. mana product (hyd) ni people own cheyyakunte emi jaragacho telusukotaniki Detroit refer chesa... karnudu chavu ki chala reasons unnayi alane mana product loss loki velthe one of the reasons would be 'people don't connect to the product' | ||
| Gotcha Hero Username: Gotcha Post Number: 18123 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 50.179.11.96 Rating: N/A |
Good questions but want to see this theory in practice. India lo is it pissible for metro to slow down. Have to see. This Andhra real estate is for sale. | ||
| Newguy123 Megastar Username: Newguy123 Post Number: 24337 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 192.200.5.41 Rating: N/A |
GM problem pensions.. enni cars ammina aa pensions ke saripoyedi.. plus janam kuda japanese or german cars ekkuva konatam modalettar avi more reliable ani.. aa factories detroit lo levu | ||
| Becbeckon Side Hero Username: Becbeckon Post Number: 4843 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 223.182.74.161 Rating: N/A |
Good. Thought provoking | ||
| Hyd7hills Junior Artist Username: Hyd7hills Post Number: 37 Registered: 11-2014 Posted From: 49.207.228.209 Rating: N/A |
Spl status iste, manaku entha varaku impact ani Jaya aunty assess chepinchindhi anta... Spl status ivvakunte, entho kontha impact undedhi manaku mathrame... mari manam assess chesamaa? future problems ni mitigate cheyyataniki mana plan enti? actually we learn from the past/hostory kada, andukani detroit ni example ga tisukunna... | ||
| Hyd7hills Junior Artist Username: Hyd7hills Post Number: 36 Registered: 11-2014 Posted From: 49.207.228.209 Rating: N/A |
repu mana hyd ni if some people dont own it? ee basis meedha own cheyyaka povachu... emotions? are we subsiding those emotions or flaring up the emotions? are we discussing with our neighbours to sort out the issues or making controversial statements to the media? which one will help in subsiding the emotions? | ||
| Hyd7hills Junior Artist Username: Hyd7hills Post Number: 35 Registered: 11-2014 Posted From: 49.207.228.209 Rating: N/A |
one of the richest metro (based on per capita) and also one of the larget metro in terms of population... is it the same Detroit now? adi sare gee sodi enduku antara.... | ||
| Hyd7hills Junior Artist Username: Hyd7hills Post Number: 34 Registered: 11-2014 Posted From: 49.207.228.209 Rating: N/A |
ayina why auto majors fail to make their product attractive? lack of technical innovations - they failed anu kovacha? (then its a R&D issue) OR people didnt own it due to emotions aaaa? (then its people management issue) | ||
| Hyd7hills Junior Artist Username: Hyd7hills Post Number: 33 Registered: 11-2014 Posted From: 49.207.228.209 Rating: N/A |
just 3 lakh jobs ki antha impact enduku jarigindi? total population 15-20 lakh kabatti, 3 lakh is a big number ani anukovacha? for suppose, if you loose the same 3 lakh jobs in 5 years period, how the impact could have been? OR if you loose 3 lakh jobs in 20 years period, how better off you will be? idanta kadu, jobs lost kakunda jobs move ayite WI or OH ki? how good the detroit would be? | ||
| Hyd7hills Junior Artist Username: Hyd7hills Post Number: 32 Registered: 11-2014 Posted From: 49.207.228.209 Rating: N/A |
detroit folks can correct if anything wrong. in one of the report submitted to US Mayors forum, detroit lost 300k+ jobs between 2000 and 2010.. it experienced extended slow period compared with other cities within US enduku ala jarigindi... auto majors not able to sell their products effectively? in other way, they didnt make their product attractive so that people can buy/invest? |
