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Sashasaurav:

Retailers ki effect is only upgrading their systems




may be apple or concerned providers will sponsor the systems
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Cocanada:

the POS has to support apple pay right? so, retailers have to stand up something to support the new form of payment




Yes ... Forgot that ...

Retailers ki effect is only upgrading their systems ... Except that i dont see any change in the current system ..
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In this way Retailers or Customer do not get effected or atleast the current system does not change for them


Retailers are affected. For now, the networks, banks have reduced their fee to support apple pay. if this thing flies, you can expect them to go up again. the POS has to support apple pay right? so, retailers have to stand up something to support the new form of payment
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To give a Clear cut understanding of what all this means . Here is the Flow

1) Consumer ( Let's say Twitter ) Buys at Walmart using his BOFA CC
2) Now BOFA CC which is issues by VISA charges 3% for the transaction which will be shared among themselves with VISA being the big brother
3) Now as a consumer Twitter vuncle does not know if Walmart is getting that 3% from him or not .. For walmart they say they do not charge customer and bare those charges

Now coming to CurrentC developed by MCX :
4) Now all these type of vendors want to develop a system to eradicate VISA , so they developed CurrentC which works with the Banks directly ( Like BOFA in linking ur Debit accoun)
5) So in years to come it will be Debit system instead of Credit system across USA - Which is highly debatable ..

Now coming to Apple Pay :
1) Apple Pay works with merchants like VISA and get a share . In this way Retailers or Customer do not get effected or atleast the current system does not change for them
2) If Apple pay gets kicked , CurrentC looses it's advantage and becomes irrelevant ... so they are blocking customers like CVS to go to Apple pay ...
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Cocanada:

agree. but merchant kurrollu want to hit both apple pay and VISA at the same time




apple pay, google wallet ki janam alavatu padithe ade permanent ayipothadani retailers badha.. CC companies/banks ki kuda vallaki vachedantlo very small percentage apple pay ki cheyataniki badha ledu..


MCX has been working on a mobile payment solution since 2011, and the driving force behind the effort is to enable the merchants to avoid paying the 2% to 3% credit card transaction fees charged by the likes of Visa (V) and MasterCard (MA). How much do these big retailers dislike paying fees to Visa and MasterCard? Former Walmart CEO Lee Scott is reported to have said, "I don't know that MCX will succeed, and I don't care. As long as Visa suffers."
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Cocanada:

agree. but merchant kurrollu want to hit both apple pay and VISA at the same time




VISA is the main target and they dont like it's dominance .. Costco / Sams extra vaalu no CC's ani untadhi .. Slowly Walmart and other retailers want to take out CC's transaction charges of 3% ...

Atleast in america it is not possible .. Simple gaa chepaali ante they want to bring back Cash meaning debit cards .. NOT POSSIBLE
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merchants ki problem apple pay kaadu, credit card companies ki pay chesedi tagginchalani.. debit card ayithe ekkuva pay cheyakkarled. ee currentC debit card meeda work avutundi..america lo debit card vadevallu chala takkuva % vuntar


agree. but merchant kurrollu want to hit both apple pay and VISA at the same time
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Cocanada:

if this is true, merchants will not be behind MCX




merchants ki problem apple pay kaadu, credit card companies ki pay chesedi tagginchalani.. debit card ayithe ekkuva pay cheyakkarled. ee currentC debit card meeda work avutundi..america lo debit card vadevallu chala takkuva % vuntar
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visa/mc/amex percentage lo nunchi cut


if this is true, merchants will not be behind MCX
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amazon merchant services vaadu




idi chachina vadaru retailers..amazon antene chirrettuddu vallaki :D
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amazon merchant services vaadu kooda free POS isthunnadu (its not advanced but basic..inka advanced itche range ki ellaledu)....eedu ee direction lo edo okati edathadu final ga!
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Cocanada:

final ga burden padedi merchants meeda, indirect ga customers meeda. customers ki picha picha ga nachesi nenu apple pay maatrame vaadataanu ante tappa established retailers ready ga leru.




aa currentC evadu vadathadu.. asalu ela work avutundo chusthene ardham avutundi..adi failure project ani..

apple pay or google wallet valla retialers extra burden emi vundadu..adi visa/mc/amex percentage lo nunchi cut..
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Cocanada:

baatam line
aadu cheppinattu..merchants ki apple pay kotha burden. payment chain lo kotha layer ochindi. vaadiki dobbinchukovaali. evaru dobbinchukuntaaru? networks? banks? hell No. final ga burden padedi merchants meeda, indirect ga customers meeda. customers ki picha picha ga nachesi nenu apple pay maatrame vaadataanu ante tappa established retailers ready ga leru.




yes idhi mathram too much strategy from apple!! idi kanuka success ayyi vaadiki 0.5% from each transaction vachina, vaadi profits oo range lo vuntayi!!!

so if visa/MC charging 2-3% for each transaction, applepay will add another 0.5%
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..tesla vaadini nokkaniki auto dealers lobbying and VP state assemblies are passing bills banning tesla's...consumer ki eti kavalo asala evadiki pattadha ...i quechan




valid question :D evadiki istam ochhina idea vaadu invent chesi ruddhesthadu janala meedha kikki ..ippusu hybrid cars ki kooda hydrogen fuel cells lo cons thecchi janala meedha ruddhuthe eti settharu ..anubhavinchandi
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baatam line
aadu cheppinattu..merchants ki apple pay kotha burden. payment chain lo kotha layer ochindi. vaadiki dobbinchukovaali. evaru dobbinchukuntaaru? networks? banks? hell No. final ga burden padedi merchants meeda, indirect ga customers meeda. customers ki picha picha ga nachesi nenu apple pay maatrame vaadataanu ante tappa established retailers ready ga leru.
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shame to shame tech experts antha apple pay will revolution rotation the way u pay ani pages koddi type sesaru2-3 weeks back...ippudu sammaga ettaru ee walmart/green, cvs and co...google wallet vaadu kooda ilantidi edo seyyaniki trying since 2012 but some other kabab mein haddi esaru retailers and others...ee desam lo ilaga ayithe kastam..tesla vaadini nokkaniki auto dealers lobbying and VP state assemblies are passing bills banning tesla's...consumer ki eti kavalo asala evadiki pattadha ...i quechan
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if that is the case Apple vadidhi athyasa kadhu kadhu duraasa ani cheppali ..retail shop loki vacchi register dhaggara nunchoni ..wait wait nuv dabbulu naku kattu nen veediki isthanu anadam doesn't make any sense ...unless he agrees to pay some commission to the retailer which is not practical though




Devices meedha revenue almost saturation point ki serindhii

so as a new model deentloki enter ayyeeduu

Wallet lekundaa nuvvu bayataku velthee yappygaa konukkochu ane convenience thappa nayapaisa vupayogam ledhuu

also how does it work in gas stations akkada koodaa Apply Pay readers pedathaaraa.

also daanikosam Applie I6 device okaa 600 petti konaaali. adi customer ki inko bokkaa
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http://techcrunch.com/2014/10/25/currentc/

explained nicely here.
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Royyala_nayudu:

Digital Currency time lo inka Banking model medha base ayina Wallet and Pay koncham kastam, we have to wait and see how this plays out.




also mana cards anni theeskelli 3rd party chethilo ettadam kooda boothu imo
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Visa and Mastercard charge 2-3% or something...Walmart and others like target, bestbuy are leading an effort to kick out Visa especially.
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i think so. walmart/target inka few companies developed their own system and wanna promote it anukunta




if that is the case Apple vadidhi athyasa kadhu kadhu duraasa ani cheppali ..retail shop loki vacchi register dhaggara nunchoni ..wait wait nuv dabbulu naku kattu nen veediki isthanu anadam doesn't make any sense ...unless he agrees to pay some commission to the retailer which is not practical though
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Biggest problem is the Bank fees. They want to go back to the barter model, where credits will be exchanged in an exchange. Digital Currency time lo inka Banking model medha base ayina Wallet and Pay koncham kastam, we have to wait and see how this plays out.
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Cocanada:

nenu ee subject matter lo egaspert ni. but NDA lo unnanu. so..keeping my mouth shut




too much technical stuff kaakunda paipaina cheppu if pazibul
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but NDA lo unnanu. so..keeping my mouth shut




NDA as in BJP govt or ikkada defense proj
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nenu ee subject matter lo egaspert ni. but NDA lo unnanu. so..keeping my mouth shut
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is Apple or Android based payment systems involves any broker fees ?




i think so. walmart/target inka few companies developed their own system and wanna promote it anukunta
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are being refused by retailers?
is Apple or Android based payment systems involves any broker fees ? why retailers are looking forward for CurrentC ? is it because currentC works for debit/gift cards only ?

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