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     Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 4862 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 23.252.109.229 Rating: N/A |
emotions apart Simple answer ki simple information ichina meeru artham chesukokapote adi naa tappu kadu, historical fact says the annexation was forceful and that is what she said. Idi jarigindi vaastavam, manchike jarigindi ani naa abhiprayam. Inka sedition charges file chesaru kada court will decide. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Kingaa_bongaa Hero Username: Kingaa_bongaa Post Number: 18628 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.194.160.7 Rating: N/A |
yeah interpretation problem for me, lot of problems for you. oka simple Q ki no answer. Do you support kavitha and TRS statements on forceful thing? your answer is history blaha blaha blah. ok thanks. Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu. | ||
| Nice Side Hero Username: Nice Post Number: 8450 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 122.164.145.125 Rating: N/A |
TRS statements tappu ani Ruj oka post veyyagane okahyderabadi bhayya vachesi chantadu antha post esadu. Ante eeyana gaari uddesam lo TRS annadhi tappu kaadhu ani | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 4861 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 23.252.109.229 Rating: N/A |
Andhra lo communists played a huge part in rooting out many of the evils and with progressive education available there was a wave of change that happened. This is in total contrast to what happened on this side. Its a pity that communists chose the path of confrontation with the Indian army rather than consolidate on the political goodwill. It took them good years to come back in to reckoning but lot quite a few good leaders during that time.
 In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Pipeline Hero Username: Pipeline Post Number: 11446 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 161.141.1.1 Rating: N/A |
cool yaa.. are you a prof? | ||
| Pipeline Hero Username: Pipeline Post Number: 11445 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 161.141.1.1 Rating: N/A |
ee issue lo naaku baaga gurthundi poyindi matuku Sundarayya garu raasina book, chinnappudu chadiva. probably he is slightly biased but I would believe he is 99% accurate. It's too sad ippudu T lo communists intha weak ayipotam. ippudu dora garu edi chebithe ade T history laaga vundi janam situation choostha vunte, chooddam ennallu ee mathu lo vuntaro.. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 4860 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 23.252.109.229 Rating: N/A |
that is a very good step, so is mandal(smaller revenue division) concept instead of taluka In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 4859 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 23.252.109.229 Rating: N/A |
you can try to get the information anywhere, BBC archives also or any libraries you will find the same material. BTW I am from the academic world and very well understand what you said In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 4858 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 23.252.109.229 Rating: N/A |
Interpretation problem for you I think dont quote one sentence out of the whole and say I said it "The context of using Hyderabad annexation/liberation and saying they were forced to join the Indian Union is not totally wrong by Kavitha in the parliament. It was the same case with all of the princely estates, they were not given any choice but to join. Nizam of Hyderabad, Nawab of Junadgarh and King of Kashmir chose to defy. In the case of Junadgarh they actually acceded to pakistan but later joined indian union(after we occupied it), the majority population were hindu and ruler was muslim, in the case of kashmir the majority population was muslim and ruler was hindu. We all know in what circumstances kashmir was included in to the Union. Hyderabad was a different case as there was no external aggression but nizam did not want to join the Union and imported arms from other countries, a civil war like situation created by the private army of Rizvi. Patel stepped in to do the needful" The terms of accession was up to the rulers of the princely states and in 2 out of 3 cases annexation was done by force, Idi kadani evaru analeru. I do believe it is for the good though. Goa ni kooda immediate ga liberate chesi unte bagundede instead of waiting for so long. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Pipeline Hero Username: Pipeline Post Number: 11444 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 161.141.1.1 Rating: N/A |
I am not contradicting on what you said about annexation but Wiki info is not always correct, in fact wiki links are not allowed to cite anywhere in the academic world | ||
| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 153639 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 66.87.77.172 Rating: N/A |
Andhra communist la charitra chaala goppadhi Educated lo commies under rated..but communism (original) pakkanA pedite...practical ga. Andhra telanaganallo commies rock 2019 - 2049 ( Ekkithe Digadu ) | ||
| Pipeline Hero Username: Pipeline Post Number: 11443 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 161.141.1.1 Rating: N/A |
that's the biggest mistake by communists but hindsight is always 20-20. merikallanti 4,000 mandi paiga cadre ni pogottukunnaru aa unnecessary fight lo | ||
| Sukumarudu Side Hero Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 3444 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 72.47.63.30 Rating: N/A |
Dorala and razakars atrocities and telangana sayudha poratam gurunchi.. interview lo unna swarajyam garu aa poratam lo direct ga involve aina manishi. http://bit.ly/1v1kxSu | ||
| Kingaa_bongaa Hero Username: Kingaa_bongaa Post Number: 18627 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.194.160.7 Rating: N/A |
Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu. | ||
| Pipeline Hero Username: Pipeline Post Number: 11442 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 161.141.1.1 Rating: |
T lo prathi thanda ni panchayathi chesindi NTR. patel patwari etheyatam one of the best things happened to T, again by NTR. | ||
| Vjawarrior Side Hero Username: Vjawarrior Post Number: 9477 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 153.2.247.31 Rating: N/A |
like abt Hindu culture aa..or Nizams aa...whic topic bro | ||
| Sukumarudu Side Hero Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 3443 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 72.47.63.30 Rating: N/A |
things we missed in textbooks. http://bit.ly/1v1kxSu | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 4857 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 23.252.109.229 Rating: N/A |
tammi nobody is supporting anybody here. I am just stating the history that has happened not interpreting it. enni vandala yella kindaki vellina chartra change avadu, muslim king kakapote hindu king nothing changes. 1100+ years Turkolla rule/tella valla rule lo unnamu direct or indirect ga antaku mundu mana rajulu. anduke Sri Sri rasindi apt eppatiki Ee desha charitra ... In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Kingaa_bongaa Hero Username: Kingaa_bongaa Post Number: 18626 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.194.160.7 Rating: N/A |
2 things. 1) TRS batch statement ok naa neeku? 2) History ante enni rojulu venakki vellaali? oka 800 years velthe emainaa problem aaa? ekkadnuncho vachi occupy chesaaru ee lk batch. vallaki support enti manam? Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 4856 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 23.252.109.229 Rating: N/A |
But we are glad that its over In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Vjawarrior Side Hero Username: Vjawarrior Post Number: 9473 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 153.2.247.31 Rating: N/A |
bro what is this about? | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 4855 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 23.252.109.229 Rating: N/A |
History sadivite telustadi tammi konni vishayalu manaku teliyani untavi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_integration_of_Junagadh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junagadh In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Kingaa_bongaa Hero Username: Kingaa_bongaa Post Number: 18625 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.194.160.7 Rating: N/A |
So TRS batch cheppedhi correct, forceful annexation, antaav? Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 4853 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 23.252.109.229 Rating: N/A |
Em jeppale tammi? All the 562 princely states under the british were given option to either join India or Pakistan, it was generally understood that all the states that were inside the proposed border would accede to India and the border areas could choose pakistan or india based on their preferences. Patel on other hand proposed Accession of princely states in to Indian Union and presented it without any options (thanks to Patel). He pretty much said you do not have the option , kashmir, junadgarh and hyderabad did not agree and wanted to be separate. Junadgarh was ruled by Mohd Mahabat and he decided to accede to pakistan in sep 1947 and approved by Pakistan govt (despite moajority of them being overwhelmingly hindu), two of his provinces revolted and joined India. Junadhgarh had no land link to pakistan and its only link was through Arabian sea. Indian union representatives tried to meet the ruler and demand to accede to India but he refused saying the kingdom was now part of Pakistan as per the rules laid down and conditions offered. Shah Nawaz Bhutto born in Rajput family (father of zulfikar bhutto) was the CM of junadgarh at that time and he refused the accession to India. India shut down the borders and stopped movement of goods etc and Bhutto moved to Karachi in oct, nov 9th India entered Junadgarh and made it part of India. This is the story in short. Now kashmir is totally contrary to the scenario, majority muslim , ruled by Hindu king and he wanted to be buffer state while Patel wanted them to join India. He refused and pakistan tried to take advantage and grab the territory and we know what happened next. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Sukumarudu Side Hero Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 3439 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 72.47.63.30 Rating: N/A |
Thunta kinda padesi moddu ethukunnam.. Ipudu moddu kinda padesi.. emi ethukunnamo inka teliyadu.. http://bit.ly/1v1kxSu | ||
| Kingaa_bongaa Hero Username: Kingaa_bongaa Post Number: 18624 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.194.160.7 Rating: N/A |
bottamline okka mukka lo cheppandi if paazibul. Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 4850 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 23.252.109.229 Rating: N/A |
Hyderabad samsthanam lo prajalani banisalu ga treat chesaru ane daniki no questions. they were exploited to the maximum extent possible economically, personally (vetti chakiri) and other kinds (like Swarajyam garu mentioned). All of these were done by the henchmen of nizam who were again hindus. Religious angle lo chooste tappa atrocities ni explain cheyalemu ante matram I do not have any answer to that except a question - the persecution of the people of telangana was done directly by the doralu(hindus) of the land. Rizvi's razakars started their pogram in 1947 which was brought to end in 1948. At the same time the Govt of India started hunting down the communists after the liberation of Hyderabad as they did not lay down arms. This continued until the early 50's when CPI declared it will lay down arms. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Sukumarudu Side Hero Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 3434 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 128.177.42.2 Rating: N/A |
Good info annai. http://bit.ly/1v1kxSu | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 4848 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 23.252.109.229 Rating: |
Tammi ruj, Nobody ever belittled the contribution of Communists to the cause of liberation of Hyderabad samsthanam from the clutches of Nizam. There is no reason why the atrocities of the henchmen of Nizam should be condoned. Afterall the armies of Nizam were very much supporting the Zamindars, doralu in Hyderabad samsthanam and they were 99% Hindus . The people of telangana were already revolting against the doralu and with the help of communists liberated thousands of villages and turned to nizam, they were very well supported by the communists and that gave the agitation a total new direction. If you see the prominent leaders in the agitation most of them are from so called bhooswamya or feudal section too ofcourse they are not in great numbers.Mallu family were reddys, bhimreddy narsimhareddy,raavi narayana reddy,adi reddy, chandra rajeshwara rao,puchapalli sundarayya(also reddy). The context of using Hyderabad annexation/liberation and saying they were forced to join the Indian Union is not totally wrong by Kavitha in the parliament. It was the same case with all of the princely estates, they were not given any choice but to join. Nizam of Hyderabad, Nawab of Junadgarh and King of Kashmir chose to defy. In the case of Junadgarh they actually acceded to pakistan but later joined indian union(after we occupied it), the majority population were hindu and ruler was muslim, in the case of kashmir the majority population was muslim and ruler was hindu. We all know in what circumstances kashmir was included in to the Union. Hyderabad was a different case as there was no external aggression but nizam did not want to join the Union and imported arms from other countries, a civil war like situation created by the private army of Rizvi. Patel stepped in to do the needful. The feudal system that was prominent in the T area was also present in the A & S area but got streamlined and the taxes went in to the coffers of the British Raj and they in turn spent some money on the infrastructure and education of the people. In the case of Nizams taxes went in to his private coffers( some again made it in to the British Raj's coffers) and they did invest some in infrastructure including building dams etc. No doubt many atrocities were committed in their rule as were in the rule of the brits. There is no denying the atrocities committed during the rule of nizam towards the end. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Sukumarudu Side Hero Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 3427 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 128.177.42.2 Rating: N/A |
oh hyderabad lone untunnara.. inka manchi vishayam. Sure India visit time ki ping chestha.. http://bit.ly/1v1kxSu | ||
| Analog Side Hero Username: Analog Post Number: 3413 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 129.110.242.50 Rating: N/A |
you want to visit tungaturti or you want to meet her? she resides in MLA quarters now...meeru nijamga kalavali anukunte cheppandi...i will try to get an appointment | ||
| Sukumarudu Side Hero Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 3426 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 128.177.42.2 Rating: N/A |
ame garu unde palce interview lo cheppinde aithe..ee sari India visit chesthe kalavali.. telisina place ae. http://bit.ly/1v1kxSu | ||
| Analog Side Hero Username: Analog Post Number: 3411 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 129.110.242.50 Rating: N/A |
yep national freedom fighters ki ye mathram thakkuva kadu vellu chesina poratalu thyagalu...i am glad you liked the interview... rajanna movie is based on some real incidents she mentioned in the video...adi just movie but nenu chudaleka poya...inka nijamga ela feel ayyaro  | ||
| Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 15025 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.222.1 Rating: N/A |
ya bro i respect ur opinion..prasthutham opp partieslo strong leaders kooda leru..kastha congresslo unnaru anthe..so for the benefit of T they have no chouce as of now but to go with TRS | ||
| Sukumarudu Side Hero Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 3413 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 128.177.42.2 Rating: N/A |
I agree.. valla intensiotns vallakiunodchu.. kaani inka criticize chese stage ki aithe poledu anukuntunna..kalupukupothunnadu anukovachu.. At the same time Thandalu development, Grama panchayithilaki self rule, land to SC/ST's lantivi kuda chesthunnadu kada? Oka vela nijanga buswami/zamindari veshalu vesthunnadu anipinchinapudu.. just elections lo odinchadam kaadu..leepi dobbutharu prajalu. . Appati varaku na stand ide TRS meeda. http://bit.ly/1v1kxSu | ||
| Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 15024 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.222.1 Rating: N/A |
naaku anduke KCR vyavaharani choosthe g lo kaledhi..bhooswamulaku, doralaku swargam nizam palana..free hand with so much control..ee raju isthadu?? nizam ichadu veelaki.. anduke KCR gadi nizam bhajana..anduke kavithe nizam angle lonchi choosi forceful annexation annadhi..anduke i hate them.. | ||
| Sukumarudu Side Hero Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 3412 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 128.177.42.2 Rating: N/A |
Communists played direct role in movement.. and Andhra/Arya samaj supported these guys.. I would like to thank you them .. peru peruna! In those interviews she tells about need for communists in modern world too.. Aame cheppindi akshrala nijam.. ippatiki konni oollalo lite ga unnayi aanati paristhithulu.. http://bit.ly/1v1kxSu | ||
| Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 15023 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.222.1 Rating: N/A |
poorthi thesis chadive opika unte evarikayina..  communists, andhra maha sabha and arya samaj role in hyd liberation.. http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/115/269553.ht ml?1412120353 | ||
| Sukumarudu Side Hero Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 3411 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 128.177.42.2 Rating: N/A |
Siggu eggu unte.. ipudunna zamindari/bhuswami families.. valla ancestors tarupuna T prjalaki kshamapanalu cheppali.. http://bit.ly/1v1kxSu | ||
| Sukumarudu Side Hero Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 3409 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 128.177.42.2 Rating: N/A |
No wonder why Osey Ramulamma such a big hit in Telangana. Hopefully same thing will be repeated with Rani RudramaDevi. Kaani akkada Vijaya ki unna fire Anushka ki untado ledu.. chudali. http://bit.ly/1v1kxSu | ||
| Sesani Side Hero Username: Sesani Post Number: 3960 Registered: 08-2014 Posted From: 170.200.144.4 Rating: N/A |
Thanks to Analog and u bhayya.. nenu watch chesta aithe.. | ||
| Sukumarudu Side Hero Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 3408 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 128.177.42.2 Rating: N/A |
http://bit.ly/1v1kxSu | ||
| Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 33273 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.55.83 Rating: N/A |
link once more please | ||
| Sukumarudu Side Hero Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 3407 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 128.177.42.2 Rating: N/A |
for those Mallu Swarajyam gari interview links.. Few things vinnapudu blood boil ayi poindi. Chala ghoram antha history unna, chala mandiki teliyaka podam. Books lo cherchaka povadam maha thappu. Thanks to AndhraMahasabha & Communists for helping our ancestors. http://bit.ly/1v1kxSu |
